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| *'''Keep''' and continue work on sourcing the article. Since there are official game guides it will be easy. --] (]) 15:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' and continue work on sourcing the article. Since there are official game guides it will be easy. --] (]) 15:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete''' there is not a single reliable source that discuss this list of creatures at all. This list is of no ''realityverse'' notability at all. Whichever of the fictional creaturs are important to this series are already mentioned in the appropriate articles (probably at undue weight and length, but whatever). (The policy claim about the GFDL up above, often asserted by that user, is pure hooey).] (]) 19:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' there is not a single reliable source that discuss this list of creatures at all. This list is of no ''realityverse'' notability at all. Whichever of the fictional creaturs are important to this series are already mentioned in the appropriate articles (probably at undue weight and length, but whatever). (The policy claim about the GFDL up above, often asserted by that user, is pure hooey).] (]) 19:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
| **Please remember to make honest and informed comments in deletion discussions. Nothing in your post is factually accurate, which reflects either deliberate dishonesty or ignorance of the topic under discussion. I suppose I'd rather it be the latter, but given the of editors in other discussions, it is hard to legitimize such an obviously false "vote" rather than argument. Even the quickest of Google News and Google Books searches reveal coverage of these creatures in reliable sources and in scores of reliable sources. They meet not only a common sense standard of notability, but even the most stringest of subjective interpretations of Misplaced Pages's ever evolving concepts of notbility. Even the others with bolf face deletes above acknowledge that aspects of this article have been merged to and from it some untold amount of times and no reason exists whatsoever for redlinking beyond ], which is not a valid reason. As such no one with any familiarity of the topic under discussion is calling for an outright redlinking rather than a transwikying or redirecting of some sort. Compelling arguments exist for merging, further improving, transwikying etc, but there is no reason nor need to redlink and in any event ] is not a reason either, especially when beyond not true. Thank you and Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --]<sup>'']''</sup> 23:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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List of creatures in the Resident Evil series
AfDs for this article:- List of creatures in the Resident Evil series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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Ever since its last AFD, it was still not improved or fixed in any way, and is still WP:GAMEGUIDE content about non-notable monsters. The majority of references are to Resident Evil guides, etc. It's also in need of cleanup - better to delete it and leave this to an external wiki or FAQ. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Merge whatever content could be merged to List of characters in the Resident Evil series and delete everything else. Jonny2x4 (talk) 01:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Redirect to Resident Evil and leave it at that, this content shouldn't be here per WP:NOTGUIDE. --Explodicle (T/C) 16:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to the character list. 70.29.209.91 (talk) 03:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. Muchness (talk) 09:09, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Delete - important fictional elements should be worked into the plot summaries of the individual games. The "Tyrant" has a citation to a gamespot "Top 10 Video Game Villains" article. This should be mentioned in the Resident Evil (series) overview. In the offchance that a particular monster has multiple, significant coverage from reliable publications, then I have no objection to a split-off article for that monster. Marasmusine (talk) 10:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Are you suggesting that we merge and delete? --Explodicle (T/C) 13:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't want to see any of this material merged, no. Marasmusine (talk) 13:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Are you suggesting that we merge and delete? --Explodicle (T/C) 13:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Redirect - Just redirect it to the character list, and if anybody wants to use some of that content to make a new better page, then they can. It needs to be made from scratch if it can ever survive again. Blake 13:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think whatever's done we have to be careful about. The reason I edited things on the page is because I used the page in the first place, NOT as a game guide of any sort. Misplaced Pages has Real people and animal pages. So why not Character and Creature pages? --Kurtle (talk) 14:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Delete/Redirect - the page has never really improved, TBH. There's never going to be a lot of sources available, and it's a guide/pov/general shit magnet. Geoff B (talk) 17:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Delete : This page is the result of countless other AFDs that resulted in "merge" or "redirect". Rather than having multiple shotty articles, we know have one big crappy article. As someone who has been watching this article for years now, I regret to say that it has not noticeably improved since the last AFD. This has been happening all across Resi-related articles. The best approach to betting these articles would be recreate as a user's subpage, and work on it there. We have taken similar approaches to Jill Valentine and Nemesis (Resident Evil). -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 14:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Keep Notice the template at the bottom of the article? See how many books, games, and whatnot in this series? This is a fine list of characters found in a notable series. Dream Focus 11:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Creatures don't inherit notability from the series. There are a lot of primary in-universe sources, but nothing that establishes real-world importance. --Explodicle (T/C) 13:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Keep as is, possibly curting some ofthe detail. This list is already the result of a long series of compromises.— Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs)
- Which of these creatures has real-world importance? I don't think previous compromises should force us one way or the other in this discussion. --Explodicle (T/C) 13:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Speedy keep per the the GFDL as aspects of this article have been merged to and from it multiple times now and assuredly as a result portions of the contribution history must be kept for legal reasons. While a merge or even redirect with edit history intact would be acceptable, the edit history cannot be deleted. It would take a while to list all of the many instances in which material was merged to and from this article, but as even implied above, we know it has happened. Moreover, this list concerns some creatures that appear in over a half dozen games, what will be four theatrically released films, novels, a calendar, on clothing, etc. and that are covered in various video game magazines and strategy guides and in the case of the latter in an analytical manner in reviews and previews, and that also appear in other merchandising including replicas people can hold in the real world. They are familiar to millions of video game enthusiasts around the world and as being part of the astonishingly popular Resident Evil series (easily one of the top fifty or so most significant video game series) have an influence on various other creatures that appear in other survival horror video games and even films. These items undeniably meet WP:N and WP:V, regardless of the state of the article, which is absolutely improveable. Per WP:PRESERVE, there is no justifiable need to redlink here (it is not a hoax, libelous, nor a copy vio) and at worst we would redirect with edit history intact or even transwiki per WP:BEFORE. Best, --A Nobody 13:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Keep and continue work on sourcing the article. Since there are official game guides it will be easy. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Delete there is not a single reliable source that discuss this list of creatures at all. This list is of no realityverse notability at all. Whichever of the fictional creaturs are important to this series are already mentioned in the appropriate articles (probably at undue weight and length, but whatever). (The policy claim about the GFDL up above, often asserted by that user, is pure hooey).Bali ultimate (talk) 19:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)