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Joseph Todaro Sr.

Ben,

I just arrived back in town yesterday, to start I appreciate the support I got from you, Zoe and Alex, I love these other so called experts, writing style can always be improved and I stand behind all my Buffalo-Todaro family information, I think the thousands of Buffalo News articles are a reliable sourc. We have Buffalo crime writers like Lee Coppola that have been writing about the Buffalo Family and the Todaros for 30 years. By the way I still have everything I copied off the Buffalo Mobsite by Supercrack, which covers everything he did. His writing style is very loose and the grammer needs work, but the point is made. There's a ton of information that I never mentioned about the Todaro's because I've never set out to demean or slander anyone, actually I thaught I made Joe Todaro out to be really respectable. I go to La Nova regularly, it's in my old neighbourhood and believe me when I tell you the todaro family do alot for the community, but also trust me when I say that I didn't mention shit. I never mentioned the murders that they've been directly implicated in, not to mention every one in the Buffalo area knows that they controlled one of the largest narcotics rings in Western New York, along the East coast and up to Florida in the 1980's and early 1990's. My father went to the dice and card games in the 1970's and 80's that were held in the Grant St. and Hertal Ave. area and became friends with Jimmy Sicurella, the man accussed of being the shooter in the Cammilleri hit. As far as posting anymore articles or anything a else, let the MAFIA EXPERT handle it, I'm to busy writing a screenplay. Thanks again.

Little Joe Shots

By the way, if your interested in that Buffalo Family info, there's enough for a book, so if you can figure an easy way for me to get it, to you let me know.

Thanks Ben

Hey Ben, nice to hear from you--I haven't seen you around for awhile. Thank you for your Christmas wishes. I was down at Sorrento and it was cold and wet all day...reminded me of a Christmas when I was young and we literally got flooded out of my uncle's pool in Kew! I hope you had a good time up at Lake Mountain! All the best for the new year, Ben. Take care, Sarah 10:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Why IRC logs can't be published

This is in response to this message.

For one, there is a long-standing rule that anyone publishing IRC logs from any WMF channels without consent from all people involved will be banned from all WMF channels. I can give you my assurances that not all of the people involved have given their consent for logs to be republished.

Also, you seem to be under the misconception that #admins is public. It's not. It's private in all definitions of the word: limited access, disclaimers of privacy, prohibitions against breaching that privacy, etc. Legally, privacy is protected per telecommunications laws (which have since been found, by precedent, to apply to electronic communications as well). Some states are one-party states, meaning that one side can record a conversation unilaterally. Some states are two-party states, meaning that both parties have to agree before a conversation can be recorded. I can assure you that some of the participants in #admins live in two-party states. Additionally, even in one-party states, lurkers wouldn't be allowed to record the conversation anyway, because they're not a party at all. Giano has no right to be sending around other people's private communications, and neither does whoever this lurker was who gave him the logs.

As you can see, it's a mess, and the correct solution is to clean up whatever alleged abuse is taking place on WMF-sanctioned IRC channels. But making these channels public is a non-starter; first of all, that certainly can't be done retroactively, meaning that none of the logs in existence right now can be published. Also, making the channel public will destroy the use of it in the first place — dealing with issues that, for legal reasons, cannot be handled transparently. --Cyde Weys 07:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

We don't need the whole logs, just the contentious bits. And while there may be contractual issues between whoever leaked and the other members of the channel, that doesn't bind anyone not present at the time. That's the thing about secrets. If you don't keep them secret, they stop being secret. Regards, Ben Aveling 21:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Wiki correctness

Hi Ben. Thanks for your brief pointer/correction on the NLP article a few weeks back. I'm currently editing on the Computing journalism article and there is the use of the "N" word there. I'm not sure which policy to refer to in this regard. I know Misplaced Pages says objectionable subjects should be covered but I am not sure exactly what to refer to regarding the use of possibly inflamatory words. Any suggestions? AlanBarnet 04:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Assuming the facts check out, there's possibly not much I'd suggest doing. But do we know why the article in question has that name? It might be worth discussing, maybe. Regards, Ben Aveling 07:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Good suggestion Ben. I doublecheck on the actual source first. AlanBarnet 08:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Greg Bownds

I've added some comments to the Afd regarding his notability, can you take a look and see if you're prepared to reconsider please? Thanks. One Night In Hackney 10:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:BIO

Ben Firstly: WP:BIO does not link to the text you quote in AfD discussions. Where should I go to find that text (...Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming...) ? (oops - found it I was looking for the formatting you used.) Secondly: How can you reasonably compare pro-wrestlers to the sports-people section? Pro-wrestlers are entertainers participating in a scripted performance. They aren't sportspeople competing to the best of their ability in a contest of skill. Compare them to the actors section, because that's what they are.Garrie 23:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Qantas

Actually, you're right, however I do believe that the section needs to be re-written or be layed out in a simple, easy-to-read format.--Golich17 22:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Very nice... I applaud your work. Thank you.--Golich17 00:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm always much impressed by those who go out and collect facts. My preferred contribution is to polish the presentation of what's already there. Regards, Ben Aveling 01:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Face

Hi, Ben Aveling, thanks for contacting me on this talk page. Are you an admin on Misplaced Pages? I wish to nominate User:ApocalypticDestroyer's as my main and only account. I intentionally had to create this account because there was no other way for me to communicate with you since User:Guardian Tiger has been blocked and the talk page protected. I cannot access the accounts: User:RevolverOcelotX, User:Guardian Tiger, User:Apocalyptic Destroyer, or any other account except the one I'm currently using now. Please read User talk:Guardian Tiger for more details. Please notify the community that I nominate ApocalypticDestroyer's as my main and only account. You may block the other accounts except my nominated main account as necessary or request another admin to do it. Could you also notify User:Bishonen of this? If there is any other procedure needed, please notify me. Thanks. ApocalypticDestroyer's 20:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)