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Invitation for a "Discussion"

Good Day,

Due to barely interactions with the Article, it is easy to assume that there wont probably be a disccusion to start with. Since you were the one reverting the move, then you might also take part in the "discussion".

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Belgrade%E2%80%93Kosovska_Mitrovica_train_incident

--InNeed95 (talk) 16:22, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Dan Palraz

I guess that you are ignoring my comments means that you dont want to accept my invitation. Am I right?

Also, since you are removing information on the Article about the International recognition of Kosovo without taking into regard the concerns I have written down on the Talk page of the Article, I might have to revert your edits, which probably will result in a Edit-War, because you would most likely edit the Article again, which I cant allow due to not having a proper solution/summary/result from the discussion which was started some days earlier on the Talk page of the Article.

I hope that you will cooperate with finding a solution to the problem.

Best Regards,

I am not Serbian nor Kosovar/Albanian (nor American nor Russian) so I have no personal position on Kosovo's statehood, but you know much better than I do that Kosovo is trying to gain full international recognition as a sovereign State, and that Serbia, Russia, China, India, Greece, Spain and most countries in Latin America, Asia and Africa still consider Kosovo a part of Serbia, while Albania, the USA, France, Germany and most countries in Western Europe consider Kosovo and Serbia two distinct countries, and Misplaced Pages tries (as it has to) to be neutral about it and use language that suits both parts. So your suggestion for changing this article from the name of the two cities to "Kosovo-Serbia" would obviously be controversial and not reach a consensus in this moment. It doesn't even matter if I agree with you, it's not the two of us who will change the minds of about half of the international community and Misplaced Pages's policy on the issue. But if the city name is Mitrovica, we can change it to Serbia-Mitrovica, yes. Dan Palraz (talk) 06:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Dan Palraz

The whole comment of yours could have been written on the talk page of the article, the place where it is meant to be.

Of whose ethnicity you are part of, plays no role. Since it doesnt answer the question. On wikipedia I am trying to be neutral. Something like "Kosovska Mitrovica" isnt neutral at all. Maybe I shouldnt have directly changed the articles name and rather asked about it on the talk page first.

Either way, I take your comment into consideration and I will change the article to "Belgrad-Mitrovica".

Now to the second part, which you didnt answer:

"Also, since you are removing information on the Article about the International recognition of Kosovo without taking into regard the concerns I have written down on the Talk page of the Article, I might have to revert your edits, which probably will result in a Edit-War, because you would most likely edit the Article again, which I cant allow due to not having a proper solution/summary/result from the discussion which was started some days earlier on the Talk page of the Article.

I hope that you will cooperate with finding a solution to the problem."

Do you might wanna answer this?

Best Regards,

--InNeed95 (talk) 10:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

"InfoboxIPA": soundfiles

Hi Dan,

I undid your edit to article Voiced palatal lateral approximant because you inserted a sound file where a graphic is appropriate. Please note that sound file data of template {{Infobox IPA}} is handled on Module:IPA symbol/data. Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 19:26, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

IP area

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in the Arab–Israeli conflict. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Template:Z33 Selfstudier (talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

You are not allowed to edit IP related pages until you are extended confirmed (30 days/500 edits) you can make edit requests at the talk page. Also note that even if you were extended confirmed and allowed to edit, you cannot make more than one revert in 24 hours. All this is on the talk page notice and the notice you see when you try to edit the article. Thank you for your attention. Selfstudier (talk) 11:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Actually no, there is no notice shown when I edit the article. I think you mistakenly assume the article is under https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Protection_policy#extended, which wouldn't allow someone with less than 500 edits to edit it. That is the case for many articles, such as State of Palestine. The article I'm editing doesn't have such protection, so for now I am able to edit it, you should ask for its inclusion in the extended protection policy if you wish. Also, you made two reverts in it; in both cases, you re-added a wrong bit of information (Spain is not a member of the G20), so that's why I have requested you to correct it. Dan Palraz (talk) 11:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I have added the edit notice, it was obviously overlooked. It makes no difference, the talk page notice is sufficient for awareness, the edit notice is only necessary if someone is to be sanctioned. You can't edit the page anyway so that doesn't matter to you. Selfstudier (talk) 12:00, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Just to point out I am still able to edit the page, differently from, say, State of Palestine or West Bank, so it means it hasn't been added to the 30/500 rule. Dan Palraz (talk) 12:01, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

No, it does not mean that. You may not edit the page and I may revert any such without consequence. Protection is an additional measure to prevent people who can't understand they are not supposed to edit the page, from editing the page.Selfstudier (talk) 12:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

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