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| This article suffers from some challenges. I may be wrong, though it's quite possible that this article has been infiltrated by ethno-nationalist schools of thought, particularly from Poland and Finland, seeking to portray the Soviet partisans as bad guys. The sections on Poland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania are about as long, if not longer, than the sections covering the Republic of Russia and certain people who edited this article have sought reduce its scope to a rap sheet of alleged crimes committed by partisans. The article gives the impression that the Soviet partisan movement was as prevalent in Poland and Finland as in Russia. Leonid Grenkevich on p.234 of his book summarizes: "...partisan fighting affected many regions but was particularly prevalent in German occupied Belorussia, the Leningrad, Kalinin, Smolensk and Orel Districts of the Russian Republic, and in the Ukraine. This partisan warfare on so vast a scale was unprecedented in Russian history." So, if the Soviet partisan movement was most prevalent in the Belarus, Ukraine, and the Leningrad, Kalinin, Smolensk and Orel provinces of Russia then I feel that the article should primarily concentrate on those regions. But this article concentrates extraordinarily heavily on Poland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania - is it because this article has been infiltrated by ethno-nationalist interests from and sympathetic to those countries? and even in but curiously this article doesn't have devote a single word to that fact. The article is in need of fundamental revisions] (]) 01:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | This article suffers from some challenges. I may be wrong, though it's quite possible that this article has been infiltrated by ethno-nationalist schools of thought, particularly from Poland and Finland, seeking to portray the Soviet partisans as bad guys. The sections on Poland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania are about as long, if not longer, than the sections covering the Republic of Russia and certain people who edited this article have sought reduce its scope to a rap sheet of alleged crimes committed by partisans. The article gives the impression that the Soviet partisan movement was as prevalent in Poland and Finland as in Russia. Leonid Grenkevich on p.234 of his book summarizes: "...partisan fighting affected many regions but was particularly prevalent in German occupied Belorussia, the Leningrad, Kalinin, Smolensk and Orel Districts of the Russian Republic, and in the Ukraine. This partisan warfare on so vast a scale was unprecedented in Russian history." So, if the Soviet partisan movement was most prevalent in the Belarus, Ukraine, and the Leningrad, Kalinin, Smolensk and Orel provinces of Russia then I feel that the article should primarily concentrate on those regions. But this article concentrates extraordinarily heavily on Poland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania - is it because this article has been infiltrated by ethno-nationalist interests from and sympathetic to those countries? and even in but curiously this article doesn't have devote a single word to that fact. The article is in need of fundamental revisions] (]) 01:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | ||
| :Well they certainly were not good guys if that's what you're asking. They were hostile towards Polish, Finnish, etc. forces. -] (]) 20:53, 30 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::You mean, the polish nazi police and the finnish collaborators? ] (]) 18:15, 3 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :While some content may be missing, the bulk of revisions should focus on removing Soviet/Russian unreliable propaganda sources, and verifying the facts with independent Western scholarly work. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 10:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | :While some content may be missing, the bulk of revisions should focus on removing Soviet/Russian unreliable propaganda sources, and verifying the facts with independent Western scholarly work. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 10:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | ||
| :The article isn't protected -- if you feel some things are missing, then add them in. ] (]) 21:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC) | :The article isn't protected -- if you feel some things are missing, then add them in. ] (]) 21:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC) | ||
| ==RfPP refactor and 1RR notice== | |||
| == "Soviet-occupied Poland" == | |||
| ] ''']''' for a period of '''10 days''', after which the page will be automatically unprotected.<!-- Template:RFPP#full --> Converted Ed's 12-hour semi, which I don't think would have done it. Negative, ], ] — this looks like a bogus ] ECP request. To my knowledge, there is no "related content" clause as an arbitration remedy for it like there is in ]. Polish stuff is just one among many countries covered by that page. And even as a "related content" this request fails. The contested edit isn't about Poland, it's about Belarus.So, please take care not to repeat such requests here, more as a matter of principle than anything, as I don't think any admin would have granted this request — AE shy ones would have stayed away, AE experienced ones would have seen it my way. Will refactor this message on the article talk page, as this place gets archived in a flash. Will also 1RR it up. ] 11:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| This section seeks to obfuscate the reader as to what Polish territory was/is. Of the Polish provinces transferred to the Soviet Union: Western Ukraine was estimated to have a population that was 65% Ukrainian, while Western Belarus was estimated to have a population that was 78% Belarusian - these were not even ethnically Polish territories, although they were a part of Poland from around 1920 until September 1939. Lvov was a part of Poland from 1918-1939 and since 1939 has been a part of Ukraine. I recommend that Ukraine and Belarus in this article be defined per their 1939-1940 borders rather than the borders preceding World War II.] (]) 02:08, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :To clarify, the contested edit isn't related to Polonization in Belarus and vice versa, ''per se.'', like some legit APL-covered Belarusian edits we've (all three of us + others) been examining a couple of months ago elsewhere. ] 12:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| : I agree - considering the area was annexed by the USSR in 1939 (and hence - not occupied), and was ceded by Poland to the USSR in the ] - calling this "Soviet-occupied Poland" is incorrect. Furthermore, outside of Polish ethnonationalist sources, there is very little use of this irredentist terminology (around the "Kresy" in general) - these areas were annexed by Poland for a very brief period between 1921-1939, and Poles were one of many ethnicities present (and not a majority). For the past 70+ years Vilnius, Novogrudok, Lviv, etc. are not referred to as Polish cities or territories.] (]) 08:32, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sorry, maybe it was Ukrainian...? I forget now, but regardless, same thing. ] 14:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::The term Soviet occupied Poland is correct. Until Poland agreed to border changes, this remained occupied Polish terrtiory.Majority of the population were Polish citizens irregardless of their ethnic background.Also Soviet Propaganda is inconsistant, as actually Soviets returned part of this territory, surely we don't want to claim Bialystok or Przemysl is part of Belarus or Ukraine occupied by Poland today? To sum it up-the correct term is Soviet occupied Poland both legally and par neutral sources.I agree that past 1945 Soviet occupied Poland shouldn't refer to Vilnius or Lviv but to communist Poland in post 1945 borders--] (]) 00:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::' |
::: Hi ]. You're mistaken here. That particular part of Europe '''in 1942''' was pre-war, pre-1939, occupied ], not ]. See ]. That’s why the request. - <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 14:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
| :::: This map illustrates it well --> - <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 14:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::: It depends - sometimes - as in the 1921 conquest by Poland or the 1939 Soviet conquest it is accepted, sometimes not. In this particular case - sources - e.g. ''Lebedeva, N. S. (2000). The deportation of the polish population to the USSR, 1939–41. Journal of Communist Studies and Transition Politics, 16(1-2), 28–45. doi:10.1080/13523270008415428'' {{tq|The deportation of the Polish population from the territories '''annexed''' in September 1939 by the Soviet Union was an integral part of Stalin's policy of destroying Poland's state system and sovietizing the western areas of the Belorussian and Ukrainian republics.}}, or ''Marples, D. R. (1994). Kuropaty: The Investigation of a Stalinist Historical Controversy. Slavic Review, 53(02), 513–523. doi:10.2307/2501303'' {{tq| Mass executions were conducted until shortly after the German invasion of the Soviet Union, and Soviet policy in areas '''annexed''' from Poland was brutal, against the Poles initially but subsequently against western Ukrainians and western Belarusians.}} - support annexed.] (]) 07:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ] but 10 day protection is okay - <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 14:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You're trying to draw a false equivalence between 1921 and 1939. Sorry, that's a fringe POV view. In 1921, there was a ] signed by two brand new states which didn't exist just a few years prior. In 1939 there was no treaty. I mean, there was the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement but I really hope you're not claiming that the legitimacy of Soviet "annexation" is demonstrated by the fact that the Nazis supported it. There was no treaty on the issue until Yalta and even that is somewhat arguable. And a couple cherry picked sources which happen to use the term in passing are not going to change that.Volunteer Marek 20:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::] in ''Bloodlands'' refers to it as an occupation.Volunteer Marek 20:13, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::] actually also calls it an occupation. As did British diplomats and governments at the time.] (]) 20:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| : It was annexed almost immediately - I would go with "invaded then annexed". ] (]) 12:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :: Fine, but do we have any source for when did USSR pass any laws on annexation? Even the Soviets had to put some legal front. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 12:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Why would we care? If I declare that I've "annexed" Canada so what? For it to be "annexed" it has to have at least some international recognition. Which means that even in a generous view of Soviet policy, these territories weren't "annexed" until Yalta.Volunteer Marek 20:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::: See for the Soviet legal process/claims - as the state of Poland was extinguished via ], the Soviets were no longer a party to various treaties (such as Riga 1921). Then also claimed ''derelicto'' due to the Polish gvmt/military flight, a humanitarian intervention on their side in the Eastern portion of Poland, and finally by a plebiscite in Western Belarus and Western Ukraine expression the populations "voluntary choice". There are a number of different dates, but per the Soviet view the Polish state had ceased to exist (and thus, also Soviet obligations from Riga) when they invaded. ] (]) 13:15, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::: So... there was no such thing as "occupied Poland" during World War 2 at all? I mean, the Germans "annexed" various territories as well and/or designated them as new protectorates. Jinkins! And here I was always taught that there actually was such a thing as "occupied Poland" during World War 2. Might be some nationalist propaganda or something. No, the Nazis only "annexed" Poland. Seriously - who cares what bullshit excuses Stalin made for his occupation? Why should we give those any more credence then Hitler's excuses for the same? Volunteer Marek 20:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: The German portion is a separate issue. As for the Soviet areas - because sources not affilated with the Polish POV generally use annexed for Western Belarus and Ukraine - e.g. Marples or Lebedeva journal articles quoted above. Why do they do so? Does not really matter - though they might be doing this since the annexation ended up being internationally recognized (such recognitions generally being retroactive) and the territories (mostly) belonging today to different countries.] (]) 01:47, 4 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::''"because sources not affilated (sic) with the Polish POV "'' - Nonsense. You just made that up. Neither ] nor ] are associated with "the Polish POV" whatever the fuck that's suppose to be. And both are way more relevant than whatever you managed to find by cherry picking through the internets.] (]) 02:53, 4 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::: Much of Gross's work is based on Polish archives. Snyder is commonly referred to as a "polophile" - .] (]) 03:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::: Who cares how he is "referred to"??? Is that in Misplaced Pages policy somewhere? "Oh we can't use an author in an article on Poland if he's had nice things to say about Poland, gee wiz". What kind of absurd logic is that? That's right up there with you trying to remove any Polish sources from articles on Polish history, or removing sources because of their religious affiliation. '''And of course Gross' work is based on freakin' POLISH ARCHIVES!!!!''' It's a book about '''freakin' POLISH HISTORY!!!''' What the hell is it suppose to be based on? Fijian archives? Maybe Moroccan? No, wait, I know, ancient hieroglyphs from Egypt! This is even more ridiculous than your statement about Snyder. Not to mention that one opinion piece that, once again, you cherry picked from your dredging of the internet, does NOT establish that something is "common". | |||
| ::::::::Sigh. Here, here is another "Polish POV" (sic) . A whole freakin' book about "Soviet occupied Poland" right in the title. From authors you yourself love to cite. Or is this going to become another farce like with Polonsky - where he was a "reputable academic source" which you insisted we should use, until you found out that he didn't actually fit in with your POV, so you then proceeded to try and remove him from an article? ] (]) 03:15, 4 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| Unilateral annexation does not automatically end occupation. Occupation ends then territorial change has been is recognized by international community, usually after relevant border treaty, which in this case was signed in 1945. For example Germany formally annexed Czech territory but that period is still referred as ].--] (]) 17:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ec}}<small> Ugh, hate when edit conflicts make me lose everything. Forced to reconstruct more tersely (lazy).</small> I'm sorry, GCB, but "related content" ≠ "related articles." But beyond whatever arcane APL rules are being invoked, I just don't think this particular dispute calls for an indef ECP at this time. Call it my '']''. ] 14:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
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| :: ] - That's totally fine. That area of the pre-war Polish state called ] is complicated to grasp unless you dig into it. - <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 02:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| {{ping|K.e.coffman}} - you a couple of items on "non RS" grounds from the external links - however you left the same source in as a citation throughout the article - http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~sarmatia/406/262choda.html (as well as https://www.iwp.edu/papers-studies/2006/05/01/the-myth-exposed/ which seems even more sketchy and unpublished - the book review at least was published). Was this your intention? ] (]) 05:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :::Agree with ] that it is a stretch to say that ] falls under ]. Even so, I still believe in the virtues of my two-month (not 12-hour) semiprotection that I had applied previously per the 3RR complaint. The three IPs who had edited recently were obviously run by the same person, so it was a case of sockuppetry. We should be able to respond to conventional socking in a proportionate manner, under regular admin authority. Though ECP might be called on if necessary, I don't perceive that it's yet necessary. ] (]) 01:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | ::::{{u|EdJohnston}}, {{u|El_C}} Just passing by to note the existence of the ] article... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 03:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
| :::::Ugh! Sorry, ]. Obviously, I can't read. I've restored your original semiprotection with profuse apologies and shame.{{frown}} Thanks, but it looks I already had it watchlisted, ]. ] 03:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
| == "Ukrainian partisans" listed at ] == | |||
| == Be wary of Soviet era sources == | |||
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| An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect ] and has thus listed it ]. This discussion will occur at {{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16#Ukrainian partisans}} until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 02:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
| == "Ukrainian resistance during World War II" listed at ] == | |||
| Compare this diff, with Soviet era sources on one side, and modern research on the other: . --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 09:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
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| An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect ] and has thus listed it ]. This discussion will occur at {{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16#Ukrainian resistance during World War II}} until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 02:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :Your reflexive dismissal and prejudice against Russian sources is not something held by actual professional scholars that specialize on this topic, and Russian sources on warfare in Crimea in 1941-1945 are clearly credible and reliable. Nazi German sources such as the observations of Erich von Manstein are also reliable and just because a source is biased doesn't mean that's inherently not trustworthy. We have this from an article appearing in a scientific journal establishing the reliability of sources that you argue should not be used: | |||
| :Taken from | |||
| :Footnote 36: "For the German view of warfare in the Crimea in 1941, see Klink, "Conduct of Operations"...For Soviet insight into warfare in the peninsula in 1941, see A.Basov, "Krym v Velikoi...1941-1945 (Moscow, 1987)" | |||
| :Foonote 64: "On the partisan movement in Crimea during the Second World War, see I. Vergasov, "Krymskie Tetradi" (Moscow, 1971); I. Genov "Dnevnik Partizana" (Simferopol, 1963) | |||
| :Your comment is about a book that's titled Crimea During World War II, a comprehensive account of a particular topic, one that has not been explored very much in English. Unless you can show something specifically refuting the reliability and accuracy of this particular source, it can and should be used for this article. | |||
| :The version you submitted misleadingly portrays relations with Tatars as representativen of partisan relations with civilians when in fact Russians and Ukrainians formed the majority of the region's population. | |||
| :You already argued above sans any logic or consistency that sources from Russia shouldn't be used in an article about Russian history, which is bizarre and prejudiced. You also selectively quoted and distorted Statiev's article, which states that "Among all regular and irregular forces that operated in the occupied territories, partisans were the least lethal actor as far as the civilians were concerned...Armia Krajowa also killed more civilians than the partisans did... Given the savagery of war on the Eastern Front, it is striking how few civilians suffered at partisans’ hands as compared to those exterminated by nationalists, let alone Nazi collaborators."] (]) 18:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
| *AlexanderIvanenko is very likely another ]. Previous throwaway socks that edit-warred this article include {{user|LegitimateProft}}, {{user|LegitimateProfit}} and {{user|LegitmateProfit}}. Regrettably, filing a SPI for throwaway socks is useless. --] (]) 20:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
| **FYI follow-up: AlexanderIvanenko blocked due to this SPI: ] (made a separate one because not known if YMB29 or Jacob Peters). --] (]) 17:35, 18 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == German casualties from Soviet partisans == | |||
| Are there any estimates for this? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 13:47, 6 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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This article suffers from some challenges. I may be wrong, though it's quite possible that this article has been infiltrated by ethno-nationalist schools of thought, particularly from Poland and Finland, seeking to portray the Soviet partisans as bad guys. The sections on Poland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania are about as long, if not longer, than the sections covering the Republic of Russia and certain people who edited this article have sought reduce its scope to a rap sheet of alleged crimes committed by partisans. The article gives the impression that the Soviet partisan movement was as prevalent in Poland and Finland as in Russia. Leonid Grenkevich on p.234 of his book summarizes: "...partisan fighting affected many regions but was particularly prevalent in German occupied Belorussia, the Leningrad, Kalinin, Smolensk and Orel Districts of the Russian Republic, and in the Ukraine. This partisan warfare on so vast a scale was unprecedented in Russian history." So, if the Soviet partisan movement was most prevalent in the Belarus, Ukraine, and the Leningrad, Kalinin, Smolensk and Orel provinces of Russia then I feel that the article should primarily concentrate on those regions. But this article concentrates extraordinarily heavily on Poland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania - is it because this article has been infiltrated by ethno-nationalist interests from and sympathetic to those countries? Soviet partisans also served in Yugoslavia, and even in Italy but curiously this article doesn't have devote a single word to that fact. The article is in need of fundamental revisionsLegitmateProfit (talk) 01:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Well they certainly were not good guys if that's what you're asking. They were hostile towards Polish, Finnish, etc. forces. -69.121.9.199 (talk) 20:53, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- You mean, the polish nazi police and the finnish collaborators? 142.54.9.83 (talk) 18:15, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- While some content may be missing, the bulk of revisions should focus on removing Soviet/Russian unreliable propaganda sources, and verifying the facts with independent Western scholarly work. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- The article isn't protected -- if you feel some things are missing, then add them in. sam1370 (talk) 21:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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Fully protected for a period of 10 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Converted Ed's 12-hour semi, which I don't think would have done it. Negative, VM, GCB — this looks like a bogus WP:APL ECP request. To my knowledge, there is no "related content" clause as an arbitration remedy for it like there is in WP:ARBPIA4. Polish stuff is just one among many countries covered by that page. And even as a "related content" this request fails. The contested edit isn't about Poland, it's about Belarus.So, please take care not to repeat such requests here, more as a matter of principle than anything, as I don't think any admin would have granted this request — AE shy ones would have stayed away, AE experienced ones would have seen it my way. Will refactor this message on the article talk page, as this place gets archived in a flash. Will also 1RR it up. El_C 11:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- To clarify, the contested edit isn't related to Polonization in Belarus and vice versa, per se., like some legit APL-covered Belarusian edits we've (all three of us + others) been examining a couple of months ago elsewhere. El_C 12:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, maybe it was Ukrainian...? I forget now, but regardless, same thing. El_C 14:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi El_C. You're mistaken here. That particular part of Europe in 1942 was pre-war, pre-1939, occupied Poland, not Belarus. See Occupation of Poland. That’s why the request. - GizzyCatBella🍁 14:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- This map illustrates it well --> - GizzyCatBella🍁 14:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi El_C. You're mistaken here. That particular part of Europe in 1942 was pre-war, pre-1939, occupied Poland, not Belarus. See Occupation of Poland. That’s why the request. - GizzyCatBella🍁 14:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, maybe it was Ukrainian...? I forget now, but regardless, same thing. El_C 14:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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El_C but 10 day protection is okay - GizzyCatBella🍁 14:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Ugh, hate when edit conflicts make me lose everything. Forced to reconstruct more tersely (lazy). I'm sorry, GCB, but "related content" ≠ "related articles." But beyond whatever arcane APL rules are being invoked, I just don't think this particular dispute calls for an indef ECP at this time. Call it my discretion. El_C 14:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- El_C - That's totally fine. That area of the pre-war Polish state called Kresy is complicated to grasp unless you dig into it. - GizzyCatBella🍁 02:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with User:El C that it is a stretch to say that Soviet partisans falls under WP:APL. Even so, I still believe in the virtues of my two-month (not 12-hour) semiprotection that I had applied previously per the 3RR complaint. The three IPs who had edited recently were obviously run by the same person, so it was a case of sockuppetry. We should be able to respond to conventional socking in a proportionate manner, under regular admin authority. Though ECP might be called on if necessary, I don't perceive that it's yet necessary. EdJohnston (talk) 01:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- EdJohnston, El_C Just passing by to note the existence of the Soviet partisans in Poland article... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh! Sorry, Ed. Obviously, I can't read. I've restored your original semiprotection with profuse apologies and shame.
Thanks, but it looks I already had it watchlisted, Piotr. El_C 03:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh! Sorry, Ed. Obviously, I can't read. I've restored your original semiprotection with profuse apologies and shame.
- EdJohnston, El_C Just passing by to note the existence of the Soviet partisans in Poland article... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with User:El C that it is a stretch to say that Soviet partisans falls under WP:APL. Even so, I still believe in the virtues of my two-month (not 12-hour) semiprotection that I had applied previously per the 3RR complaint. The three IPs who had edited recently were obviously run by the same person, so it was a case of sockuppetry. We should be able to respond to conventional socking in a proportionate manner, under regular admin authority. Though ECP might be called on if necessary, I don't perceive that it's yet necessary. EdJohnston (talk) 01:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- El_C - That's totally fine. That area of the pre-war Polish state called Kresy is complicated to grasp unless you dig into it. - GizzyCatBella🍁 02:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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