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Thanks

Before I go and whip up some whiz-bang template to thank users for their support, I'd like to thank you for nominating me. The RFA passed at 89/1/1, which means I am now an administrator. Now, if it weren't for the time zone difference, I wouldn't have been trying out these 'shiny' buttons in the early hours of this morning. (It's now 7:30am and I'm up for round 2 of Mike v CSD :D) Just leave me a note if I do something really silly, ok? Cheers and have a nice day. --Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 21:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, now that I have time to do this, you can have one of the above-mentioned whiz-bang templates to thank you again:

Thank you for your Support on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 89/1/1. If there's anything I can help with, then you know where to find me. Cheers. - Michael Billington (talk) 09:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

5 minutes of fame

I expect you've had this pointed out 1,000 times already by now, but just in case - did you know that you were mentioned on the radio? fraggle 14:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

He knows. In fact, he was the one who pointed that out to me. Skult of Caro (talk) 03:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Heya

Oh, that sucks! I'll see you around then, I'll try to do the gtalk thing sometime. :) – Riana 15:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I meant - I'll get on Gtalk once in a while, and maybe our wires will cross. Yeah, I can't really imagine life without the interwebz. *shudder* – Riana 15:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume II, Issue 2 - March 2007

Project News Plagiarism by the Times of India: Recently it was noticed that the Times of India, the world's largest distribution daily had systematically plagiarised many of Misplaced Pages's biographies on members of the Indian cricket team among other cricketers on its website, sometimes with errors propagated (details). After discussion and discovery of further plagiarisms in other fields, the issue reached the admin noticeboard archived here. Jimbo's visit to India and the WikiCamp in Chennai: Jimbo recently visited India in late February and early March on wiki work. This included a trip to a WikiCamp in Chennai. The one day conference attracted 300 participants from across India and beyond dealt with issues facing wikis (). It was widely covered by the press, eg The Hindu( ), which cited the efforts of Bhadani (edit count), Sundar (leadership on Tamil Misplaced Pages) and Ganeshk (Creation of Ganeshbot to create articles on Indian towns from census figures). Ganeshk himself travelled from California to attend the conference. Misplaced Pages Weekly 15: Misplaced Pages Weekly, a informal Wikipedians' program that purports to give "A weekly audio roundup of Misplaced Pages happenings with news, interviews and roundtable discussions" recently interviewed two prominent editors Rama's Arrow and Ragib(listen). The entire 34 minute interview was entirely about the world of Indian subcontinent wiki-happenings, and was the first episode which was not entirely dominated by discussion of wiki-politics and wiki-bureaucracy, with the host Witty lama praising the efficiency of the project and its proliferation of featured content. Rama's Arrow cited the team spirit, friendship and respect among project members in discussing its success and FA productivity, as well as discussing subcontinental wiki-conflict. Ragib talked also of his public campaign to raise awareness of the Bengali Misplaced Pages in his native Bangladesh, which has seen a 30-fold increase in article count over the past year. Arbitration: Three cases are either in progress or have recently ended. Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan regarding the activities of various Indian and Pakistani editors on pages related to Indian subcontinent history topics, the national status of various pre-Partition figures, and edit-warring over Indic scripts and WikiProject tags was held and concluded in late February- early March. As a result of this, four Pakistani users, Siddiqui, Szhaider, Nadirali and Unre4L were all banned for one year for disruption via edit-warring and confrontationalism. Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2 regarding a dispute over the article of the religious teacher closed in early March with four users indefinitely banned from the article. Currently, Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Freedom_skies is in the evidence phase. It is concerned with the editing of Freedom_skies, who edits articles on ancient Indian history, primarily civilisation articles such as Indian mathematics and related articles, as well as Buddhism articles such as Pusyamitra Sunga, as well as those pertaining to the propagation of Mahayana Buddhism to China such as Bodhidharma and Zen. What's New? Featured and Good Content: Eight articles: Vijayanagara Empire (nom), Delhi (nom), Pashtun people (nom), Nathu La (nom), Harbhajan Singh (nom), Hoysala architecture (nom), Harbhajan Singh (nom), Technopark, Kerala (nom) and Western Chalukya Empire (nom) were featured from our WikiProject recently, since our last edition. 'Dineshkannambadi has been a phenomenal force in the production of FAs recently, being responsible for three of these eight articles. He has totalled five FAs, all relating to Kannada history. Three portals: Portal:Hinduism (nom), Portal:West Bengal (nom) and Portal:Kerala (nom) were also featured. There were two additional GAs, Murali Kartik and Bhagat Singh. Congratulations to all contributors who helped to develop the above content to represent the best of Misplaced Pages! Need some help? Are you stuck at a point where admin help is needed? There are 21 Indian Administrators in Misplaced Pages at the last count. If you need some help with anything related to WikiProject India, they are just a couple of clicks away! Complete To Do List India-related tasks | Indian noticeboard v • e • d • h • w Requests: Sibichen K Mathew, Dominic Emmanuel, AK Merchant, Counterfeiting of currency notes in India, Akhand Pratap Singh, Asura (band), Asian Variety Show, Cultural liberalism in India, India Export Tax, India Import Tax, More... NPOV: Greater Nepal Rajneesh, Ranjit Lal Jetley Hedgewar, Puttanna Kanagal, Bride burning, Sonia Gandhi More... Wikify: Railway stations, Mahavidwan R. 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Note from Editor's Desk Welcome to the March 2007 edition of our newsletter. Congratulations to one of our most respected writers, bureaucrats and administrators, Nichalp, who is now entrusted with the oversight permission. In addition Riana has joined the administrative ranks after a successful RfA. On a sad note, Nobleeagle, who was responsible for the creation of the Punjab WikiProject, and was largely responsible for Indian cricket team, Bhagat Singh and Lage Raho Munna Bhai becoming GAs, as well as working heavily in Indian religious and cricket work, has left the project after having his identity revealed. More generally, certain Indian users have recently been subject to real life harassment by banned users, etc. If this is affecting you in real life, please do not hesitate to contact Wikimedia board members for assistance, or ask a senior Wikipedian to solicit help on your behalf if required. Nishkid64, a prolific contributor and administrator, is currently undergoing surgery to fix a congenital heart defect. You can wish him well here. Weekly Collaboration (Shortcut:WP:INCOTW): Collaboration of the Week has fallen from its once high feats. Please drop by and help rejuvenate it. As before, we'd like to stress, this is your newsletter, and we want you to be part of it as well. Provide us with news tips. It can be anything related to the project, from discussions to calls for help, and other interesting stuff within our community. Sponsored content for recruitments within your WikiProject sub-groups are also welcome, including requests for copyediting, photographic work, peer review, etc. We'll be very happy to include them here. This edition special Translation Department: Can you read and write any languages of India? Do you know multiple languages and are looking to keep your skills at a high level or improve them? If so, the Translation Depeartment may be for you! The translation department of the India WikiProject aims to utilize high-quality non-English material related to India for the goals of the project. This includes both translating articles from and to other-language Wikipedias as well as assisting contributors with non-English sources. The department aims to provide services in transliteration, formulating scripts for various languages, as well as translating articles from one language to another and validating sources in other languages to that of the encyclopedia article. If you are looking for a friendly translator here is your go-to point. Currently, we are still seeking representation for Kashmiri, Nepali, Oriya, Sindhi and Tulu, as well as reinforcements in all other languages. Signed... Edited by YellowMonkey and distributed by Lostintherush

Oversighted

I've oversighted the edits. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Narendra Modi

Smart move.Bakaman 16:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Death of Bob Woolmer

I have moved this page back to it's original heading - if you wish it to move moved, can you please discuss it on the talkpage. Many thanks, Davnel03 16:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Started discussion on the relevant talk page. Thanks for letting me know. Best, — Nearly Headless Nick 11:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent successful RfA. As I have now gone 36 hours without either deleting the main page or blocking Jimbo, all should be well. --Anthony.bradbury 15:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Question.

There's a note from an anon on my talkpage. Is it of any importance? I don't see any conversation either on your talkpage, or in the archives, or in the appropriate page's archives, to indicate what on earth is going on. Could you also explain your protection of the Narendra Modi article. Hornplease 20:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

• The only edit I made to this page – . As per WP:BLP we will have to be careful while writing for living personalities. There has been no solid proof provided in the article (by a competent authority, i.e.) that points directly that Narendra Modi or his administration were directly responsible for the act. Also, it was a "fake encounter" and the header Fake encounters is far from justifying. Provide the references carefully and write carefully. Words like allegations and imputations should be used.
• As for the protection of the page, a range of IPs has been used disruptively on this article, I suggest that you ask your friend to get himself an article and then edit legitimately to absolve himself from sockpuppetry accussations. This article has a history of disruptive editing, hence the semi-protection.
• Best wishes, — Nearly Headless Nick 11:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, assuming that a random IP is 'my friend' is deeply disturbing. On AN/I Nirav has just blown up at another admin for something similar. Second, I am well aware of the restrictions on livin person's biographies, thank you. I regularly work on BLP patrol. In this case, the matter itself is not irrelevant to a Modi article, as the issue was an apparent assassination attempt on him, and it has led to direct attacks on Modi's personal leadership on the floor of the State legislature. That the section was inaccurately titled does not lead to the statement "it does not belong in the article", which is your edit comment. Note also that this article is not particularly vandalised, a few days of very anaemic warring - in which I have not participated - is at best shaky support for semi-protection, not full protection. Hornplease 21:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The encounter is a criticism of members of the police force which are a small part of the modi government. If you had taken even a minimal read of BLP, you would see criticism:

taken from WP:BLP. Bakaman 22:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

So criticism of the Iraq War as illegitimate doesnt belong in the Bush article? It's there, and good luck removing it. I cant see any other option to accepting that notable criticism of a government is relevant to the biography of the head of that government, especially when the criticism in question leads for demands for that head's resignation. However, I congratulate you on actually reading BLP for a change. Hornplease 22:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Bush is commander-in-chief. More or less, he ordered the troops to attack Iraq, and as the head of the army that he led to war (leadership is relative but the best term here), he is held responsible for the results of the war. Modi OTOH did not order fake encounters, nor is he the chief of police (the people accused in the wrongful deaths). Neither is he the head of a nation at war. People have always demanded modi's resignation, and if you had read the source would have seen that it was a couple of disaffected BJP members and retired men without a hobby making a ruckus.Bakaman 23:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The fact that it is being used by disaffected members of the state party against Modi's leadership is precisely why it is arguably relevant. We cannot exclude things as irrelevant per BLP if reliable sources say that they are being considered to be relevant by notable individuals; the fact that it led to suspension of the Gujarat assembly might lead to it being considered notable. In addition, the assassination attempt itself was considered relevant to the Modi article, so the fact that it appears to have been invented might be considered relevant as well. Hornplease 19:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for a response to my queries on semi-protection vs full protection, and a clarification of the 'friend' statement. Hornplease 19:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• I was under the impression that we would be continuing this conversation on Talk:Narendra Modi. In any case, it is not Times of India or any other press publisher that can paste guilt on Narendra Modi, for that matter. The NHRC, the National Human Rights Commission is the sole authority with that right. As of now, it seems that it has absolved Narendra Modi of taking an active part in organisation of any kind of pogrom/genocide/murder.
• George Bush? That's a strawman, m'dear. Bush is the commander-in-chief of the army and there is clear evidence that he lead the American army into Afghanistan and Iraq. Suggest you stick to what's relevant here.
• Article semi-protection? Narendra Modi is an article prone to defamatory vandalism/libel and I have chosen to protect it in the wake of such incidents happening regularly. There are some other articles permanently semi-protected for such reasons.
• Friend statement? Aren't we all friends? And please, avoid sarcastic statements towards other respectable members of our community, like you taunted Bakad00d, up there. Chao. — Nearly Headless Nick 12:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfB

I'm confused by your opposition on my RfB. Is there any reason why you don't want me to be a bureaucrat? You say "I'd rather see you continue your work as a dirty rouge admin than a diplomat or a politician." Well, if I was promoted, I would definitely continue my admin work. A bureaucrat, is however a job I feel I could do well, and to oppose because you'd rather I worked as an admin confused me. Will you please explain? Thanks. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 11:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Majorly, I did that only to keep a very competent admin from becoming timid and meek in the light of extreme pressure from the community. Being a bureaucrat is an extremely demanding job, and you would be held responsible for each and every action that they take. I think it would become highly improbable for you to take controversial decisions, even admin actions. After all, bureaucrats are supposed to be the epitome of due process. You are a strong administrator, and I would like to see you continue as one. Best, — Nearly Headless Nick 11:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Nick, I know I want the job, I fully understand the demands of it or else I wouldn't have applied. I assure you I will always continue as a strong administrator, but I wish to be trusted with further tools. The question is "do you trust me as a bureaucrat?" If not, that's absolutely fine, I've not been here an incredibly long time, and I can always try again. But to oppose because you think I will "burn out" (that's what I think you are getting at) isn't exactly a fair oppose. Please do reconsider, I have thought this through long and hard and I know what I am getting myself in for. Thank you. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 11:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

On your head, so be it! :) — Nearly Headless Nick 11:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Usernameblock

Hi, I have a link above to a user you blocked for having an inappropriete username. I think, unless this user is a sockpuppet, has made repeated inappropriete edits(except in extreme or unusual circumstances), or has a history of repeated malicious account creation, I think the account creation block should be lifted, only blocking the user, not the ability a to create a new account from the IP that the account originated from.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. (talk • contribs) 16:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, I was just curious what about "Cool cat" that other people find inappropriete?--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. (talk • contribs) 17:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It's been cleared up WJBscribe and Alison. Too familer to existing user and no need to create new account. Sorry for the confustion.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. (talk • contribs) 06:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Majorly's RfB

Hi Nick, thanks for your kind support in my RfB. Sadly, it didn't pass, but I appreciate the support, and I do intend to run again eventually. Thanks again for switching, it means a lot to me. See you around! Majorly _{(o rly?)} 03:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Stop abusing your powers

In future, use common sense before you use buttons. And when you do misuse your buttons, atleast have the courtesy to leave messages on the blockees' pages explaining your actions. Thanks. Sarvagnya 17:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Congratulations, brother. — Nearly Headless Nick 15:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)