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==Recent edits== |
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I have removed several non-notable criticisms of Roskam per ]. Please review. ] (]) 01:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Just a suggestion, Cactusframe: try discussing it here per ] before putting that "poker rights blogger" back into a ]. If we include every criticism about a politician from every blogger and every opponent's campaign manager, Misplaced Pages would occupy half the Internet and the bloggers and campaign managers would occupy the other half. It isn't notable. No matter what a politician does, there will be some blogger somewhere who is displeased. |
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:As a hypothetical example, if the Duckworth campaign manager had cited a study by the ] showing that 42.7% of Roskam's cases had been dismissed by the courts as frivolous, and if we had a JPG of his Yellow Pages ad saying, "We don't care whether you can actually prove your case or not," you'd have something. ] (]) 03:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC) |
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::Dual Freq, now that I've seen your recent edit, it appears that the original source (minus the bit that was added by the "poker rights blogger") is ''Crain's Chicago Business.'' That might be worth looking into. It sounds like it may satisfy ]. ] (]) 11:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Education Again== |
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Dual Freq, thanks for reverting the re-addition of the education section. --] (]) 14:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==More on recent edits== |
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Scjessey has removed a quality portrait photograph I found on Commons, restoring the old version -- what appears to be a Polaroid snapshot. He has also removed well-sourced and highly notable facts from the lead paragraph. The sources were readily available and cited in the body of the article if he had bothered to look. I have reverted him and added the cites to the lead paragraph, in a good-faith effort to make the article better. I stand ready to discuss this edit. Removal of well-sourced material is vandalism. ] (]) 11:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:Who Roskam defeated is not biographically important, so it should not form part of the article introduction. These campaign-related facts are properly covered in the body of the article. I have removed them for reasons of ]. I removed the portrait in an earlier edit by accident, and I am perfectly happy with the one K4T has found. -- ] (]) 16:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC) |
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==New edit war?== |
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The most recent changes to the page have been of a partisan nature, followed with challenges to "prove" the editor wrong. The reason for removing one portion seems to be the fact that a link to a story has expired; this does not turn the story into "hearsay", it just means that people will now have to go to the library to view the article. Before the link died, it was viewed by other editors, and was legitimate. Proof does not need to be found online. I've cited obituaries in articles that only exist on microfilm or hard copy. |
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References are made to reporter Eric Kroll's "fanciful speculations"; for that claim, you need to find a reference disproving his printed assertions and proving them to be nothing more than speculation. "Hearsay" for purposes of Wiki articles is when an editor claims he read or heard something "somewhere" but can't produce a legitimate source. It does NOT include a report from a reliable source (newspapers are generally considered such) with which one editor disagrees, especially for partisan reasons. |
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The phrases "did not find fault" and "cleared" are very different things. The FEC does not generally "clear" people or groups of charges, they just find insufficient reason to pursue further action. Unless you can find a reference that specifically states that Roskam was "cleared of charges", we go with what is known. |
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References to Roskam's control (or lack thereof) of a PAC (BTW, "PAC" is an acronym and is normally written in all caps) are irrelevant. His campaign was found not at fault, but CWF, led by Gary Bauer, was found to have violated election law. Those are the facts. Adding the parenthetical phrase "which Roskam's campaign had no control" is both unnecessary and ungrammatical. |
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Using the word "decisively" is redundant. As has been stated, a 16% victory is pretty decisive, which is exactly the issue. It's like calling someone a tall seven-footer. |
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Summarizing: If the statement made in a newspaper report is false, that must be proven before removing it. Removing it because the link to a two-year-old news story in a small suburban paper has finally expired is not grounds for calling it hearsay. The other edits are just restating things in a euphemistic manner, and WP style seeks to avoid such things. |
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Before we get into an edit war, let's hear other opinions. --] (]) 19:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC) |
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:I added a link to the current (pay) archive of the article that was questioned. It exists. --] (]) 17:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::And the user who made the original challenge was identified as a sockpuppet of {{user|Joehazelton}} and the article semi-protected. Thanks for the link, as it defeats one of his "arguments" outright. -- ] (]) 22:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Needs Updating on Committee Assignments == |
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Peter Roskam is now a member of the House Committee on Ways and Means: |
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Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 19:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC) |
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Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 19:45, 25 June 2017 (UTC) |
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I check pages listed in ] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for ] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of ]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. |
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. ]] 19:53, 7 August 2019 (UTC) |
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