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	== ~~Lead~~ ==		== Obvious vandalism. ==

	{{xt\|Pristina seems to have been a small village before the late 15th century. ... The first mosque in Pristina was built in the late 14th century while under Serbian rule.}}

	The second claim seems highly improbable in light of the first. ] (]) 20:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
	:Good point. The second sentence is sourced to a travel guide, so it does not meet the ] criteria. ] (]) 20:55, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

	== Expansion of the lead ==

	Why wasn't my edi an improvement, ]? Let me remind you that the lead is supposed to be an overall summary of the article. ] (]). 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

	== Regarding Prishtina in the 17th century ==

	Sources indicate Prishtina was mostly inhabited by Muslim Albanians in the 17th century as the people became Islamised in the town as shown by 16th century registers too, and I QUOTE FROM THE SOURCE:

			Section on "17th to 20th centuries" jumps from deportation of Jews under Nazis in 1944 to 1980s ] and the Kosovo War of 1990s.
	'''''The first large town reached by Piccolomini was Prishtina, which had a mostly Muslim population of 3,000 households (roughly 15,000 people); many of these had apparently fled, but one early account states that ‘in Prishtina 5,000 Arnauts, having thrown off the Turks'''''', and many leaders of the surrounding places...swore fealty to the Emperor?* Who were these ‘Arnauts’? Although this word is normally treated simply as a synonym for ‘Albanians, there are (as we shall see) some doubts as to how such apparently ‘ethnic labels were used by West European writers at this time. ''''''However, the fact that this writer clearly contrasts these ‘Arnauts’ in Prishtina with the people of the ‘surrounding places’ suggests that they were inhabitants of the town—in which case they were mostly Muslims, probably Albanian'''''' but very possibly including some Slavs.''

			Clearly, entire section of history went missing.
	https://archive.org/details/rebels-believers-survivors-studies-in-the-history-of-the-albanians-malcolm-noel-2020/page/133/mode/1up p. 132-133

			Apparently, ] got up at early one Saturday morning and "presumptively deleted" whole chunks of the article into oblivion and uselessness. Must have been SOME Friday night.
	- Arnaut was a word for Albanian. I don't think it refers to Orthodox Slavs . Part of Eastern Kosovo were possibly majority Slavic which is also indicated by when the Austrians entered that area but the towns were mostly Albanian. Nowhere do they use the word Arnaut for the majority Slavic areas. The Western and some of the central part of Kosovo was Albanian as indicated by sources.

			I mean, I had drunk my share in my time, but I never ended up deleting decades of history because of that. ] (]) 19:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
	This document from the 17th century says the same thing:

			:Hi, 109/175.104.40, and thank you for coming forward with your concerns.
	''The General rested there for several days to issue orders on matters pertaining to that region, that had submitted to him voluntarily. '''The reputation of this commander grew more and more because of his orderliness such that 5,000 Arnauts in Pristina who had risen against the Turks''' and many of the major towns in the vicinity had given to understand that they would submit to the rule of the Emperor. Thus, when he arrived in Pristina, they swore allegiance to the Emperor and at that moment, this large tract of territory came under the shadow of the laurels of His Imperial Majesty.''
			:I know it's a bit inconvenient, but if you read the sections above, the material was added by a user (Tetovario, alia CheddarB23) who repeatedly and egregiously violated the copyright of numerous authors and text, sometimes creating false attributions in an attempt to cover up their behaviour. I'd already removed several examples of copyrighted material they had inserted. Unfortunately, it became necessary for me to ] large sections of content that they added. Which, yes, I know hasn't left the article in a great state, but Misplaced Pages is a work in progress! If you'd like to chip in, please feel free! Because the history is all still there- the only thing that's left to do is for somebody to look at the sources and write some new, original, content with facts from them. ] (]) 23:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

			==Flag and seal==
	http://www.albanianhistory.net/1689_Kosovo-Turkish-War/ ] (]) 21:28, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

			If you look at the website linked in the in in the infobox, the flag has a white background rather than a blue one and the colour gradient on the seal is symmetrical. In the wiki version of the seal, the house-like symbol is also at the wrong place and I think the name of the city above the seal is also part of it (maybe also of the flag). Would be nice if someone could fix this. ] (]) 22:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

			== Error in climate section ==

			The mean annual and monthly sun hours are different from each other in the table and the text in the 'Climate' section, i suppose because of different references; I would change it myself but i haven't edited enough articles yet. ] (]) 15:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
	This is all taken from 1689-1690 Austrian-Ottoman wars. No, I don't think all Orthodox people in Kosovo were Albanians with Slavic names (As also Noel Malcolm says he doesn't think that) but I think some of the Orthodox population in Kosovo were Albanians who became Islamised. And Catholic Albanians were Islamised too. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:34, 23 September 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Obvious vandalism.

Section on "17th to 20th centuries" jumps from deportation of Jews under Nazis in 1944 to 1980s Slobodan Milošević and the Kosovo War of 1990s.

Clearly, entire section of history went missing.

Apparently, GreenLipstickLesbian got up at early one Saturday morning and "presumptively deleted" whole chunks of the article into oblivion and uselessness. Must have been SOME Friday night.

I mean, I had drunk my share in my time, but I never ended up deleting decades of history because of that. 109.175.104.40 (talk) 19:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, 109/175.104.40, and thank you for coming forward with your concerns.

I know it's a bit inconvenient, but if you read the sections above, the material was added by a user (Tetovario, alia CheddarB23) who repeatedly and egregiously violated the copyright of numerous authors and text, sometimes creating false attributions in an attempt to cover up their behaviour. I'd already removed several examples of copyrighted material they had inserted. Unfortunately, it became necessary for me to presumptively delete large sections of content that they added. Which, yes, I know hasn't left the article in a great state, but Misplaced Pages is a work in progress! If you'd like to chip in, please feel free! Because the history is all still there- the only thing that's left to do is for somebody to look at the sources and write some new, original, content with facts from them. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 23:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Flag and seal

If you look at the website linked in the in in the infobox, the flag has a white background rather than a blue one and the colour gradient on the seal is symmetrical. In the wiki version of the seal, the house-like symbol is also at the wrong place and I think the name of the city above the seal is also part of it (maybe also of the flag). Would be nice if someone could fix this. Iluzalsipal (talk) 22:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Error in climate section

The mean annual and monthly sun hours are different from each other in the table and the text in the 'Climate' section, i suppose because of different references; I would change it myself but i haven't edited enough articles yet. Tbany (talk) 15:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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