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			The images for deletion discussion was cut short in an unclear state when the deleting admin found the picture on the (see ]). Further discussion at ] indicated that the presence of an image on the website of a major image library is not in and of itself sufficient for deletion. Our featured article ] uses ], which can be found on the Corbis website. The previously linked ] contains other examples. I therefore ask that the deletion be overturned and the discussion restarted to allow a fuller discussion of these issues for this particular image. ] 16:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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The images for deletion discussion was cut short in an unclear state when the deleting admin found the picture on the Corbis website (see Corbis). Further discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Non-free content#The Corbis/Getty argument indicated that the presence of an image on the website of a major image library is not in and of itself sufficient for deletion. Our featured article Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima uses Image:WW2 Iwo Jima flag raising.jpg, which can be found on the Corbis website. The previously linked discussion contains other examples. I therefore ask that the deletion be overturned and the discussion restarted to allow a fuller discussion of these issues for this particular image. Carcharoth 16:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Microsoft-Staff-1978.jpg (closed)

Image:Microsoft-Staff-1978.jpg – restored with consent of deleting admin, may need to be removed from some articles – GRBerry 13:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
File:Microsoft-Staff-1978.jpg (edit \| talk \| history \| links \| watch \| logs) `(`restore`\|`cache`\|`AfD`)` Photograph depicting the scraggly looking Microsoft founders and staff from Dec. 1978, sourced to Bill Gates' biography at Microsoft.com. Originally uploaded in Oct. 2005 under {{promotional}}. A canned historic photograph rationale was added by Quadell (talk · contribs) in Oct. 2006. On June 27 of this year, Quadell updated the rationale to state, in part: If this image is used merely to show what an individual in the lineup looks like, it can be replaced by a contemporary free image of the person. If this image is used to show staffing at Microsoft without regard to era, it can be replaced by a current staffing photograph (or combined photos of individuals). But if this iconic image is used to discuss the image itself, no new alternative can replace it. In addition, if this image is clearly being used only to discuss this pivotal event (as discussed in the article) of a person's life, it cannot be replaced. On July 16 of this year howcheng (talk · contribs) added a template which challenged this rationale, stating "As a non-free image, this requires a rationale for every article that it appears in, not just one blanket statement." By this time the photograph was used in a large number of articles, including Microsoft, History of Microsoft, and the personal biographies of all eleven people pictured therein. While howcheng's dispute tag was removed several times, no significant change to the rationale occurred and the image was deleted on Aug. 1st by ^demon (talk · contribs). Since no one challenged any aspect of Quadell's rationale, and since it was detailed and in accordance with fair use policy, I would like to request that this image be undeleted for use in History of Microsoft. All other uses should be discussed and backed up by individual rationales. ˉˉ╦╩ 07:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Overturn for use in History of Microsoft, other places need additional rationales. ^demon 12:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Overturn - valid rationale applied for use in the History of Microsoft article. If the rationale wasn't valid for use in other articles, then remove it from those articles rather than delete the image. Neil ╦ 13:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Comment: Anetode doesn't seem to have tried to resolve this matter with the deleting administrator (^demon) first. Additionally, ^demon is in favor of undeleting the image (although he does suggest some article edits). Given these two facts, is it necessary for this DRV to continue? — The Storm Surfer 13:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The above is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.

Image:Microsoft-Staff-1978.jpg – restored with consent of deleting admin, may need to be removed from some articles – GRBerry 13:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.

Photograph depicting the scraggly looking Microsoft founders and staff from Dec. 1978, sourced to Bill Gates' biography at Microsoft.com. Originally uploaded in Oct. 2005 under {{promotional}}. A canned historic photograph rationale was added by Quadell (talk · contribs) in Oct. 2006. On June 27 of this year, Quadell updated the rationale to state, in part:

If this image is used merely to show what an individual in the lineup looks like, it can be replaced by a contemporary free image of the person. If this image is used to show staffing at Microsoft without regard to era, it can be replaced by a current staffing photograph (or combined photos of individuals). But if this iconic image is used to discuss the image itself, no new alternative can replace it. In addition, if this image is clearly being used only to discuss this pivotal event (as discussed in the article) of a person's life, it cannot be replaced.

On July 16 of this year howcheng (talk · contribs) added a template which challenged this rationale, stating "As a non-free image, this requires a rationale for every article that it appears in, not just one blanket statement." By this time the photograph was used in a large number of articles, including Microsoft, History of Microsoft, and the personal biographies of all eleven people pictured therein. While howcheng's dispute tag was removed several times, no significant change to the rationale occurred and the image was deleted on Aug. 1st by ^demon (talk · contribs). Since no one challenged any aspect of Quadell's rationale, and since it was detailed and in accordance with fair use policy, I would like to request that this image be undeleted for use in History of Microsoft. All other uses should be discussed and backed up by individual rationales. ˉˉ╦╩ 07:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Overturn for use in History of Microsoft, other places need additional rationales. ^demon 12:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Overturn - valid rationale applied for use in the History of Microsoft article. If the rationale wasn't valid for use in other articles, then remove it from those articles rather than delete the image. Neil ╦ 13:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment: Anetode doesn't seem to have tried to resolve this matter with the deleting administrator (^demon) first. Additionally, ^demon is in favor of undeleting the image (although he does suggest some article edits). Given these two facts, is it necessary for this DRV to continue? — The Storm Surfer 13:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The above is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.

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			The images for deletion discussion was cut short in an unclear state when the deleting admin found the picture on the (see ]). Further discussion at ] indicated that the presence of an image on the website of a major image library is not in and of itself sufficient for deletion. Our featured article ] uses ], which can be found on the Corbis website. The previously linked ] contains other examples. I therefore ask that the deletion be overturned and the discussion restarted to allow a fuller discussion of these issues for this particular image. ] 16:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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