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Please stop reverting and accusing me of pushing a POV and that I'm adding shock value. What's so shocking about an outdated term? When that is exactly what the article is about. Not my POV, sheesh. Your's maybe? It is really disruptive when you do this. Please stop. This is the 21st century and this encyclopedia should reflect that. Just like I cannot rely on that old $500 (probably $2000 today) encyclopedia set my mother purchased in the 60s. Most of it is wrong, out of date! We need to keep up with ever changing information to keep it current. You have to learn to live in an ever evolving world. One where technology, medicine and science is constantly advancing and globalization and multiculturalism is growing. :) ]&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup></small> 07:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Please stop reverting and accusing me of pushing a POV and that I'm adding shock value. What's so shocking about an outdated term? When that is exactly what the article is about. Not my POV, sheesh. Your's maybe? It is really disruptive when you do this. Please stop. This is the 21st century and this encyclopedia should reflect that. Just like I cannot rely on that old $500 (probably $2000 today) encyclopedia set my mother purchased in the 60s. Most of it is wrong, out of date! We need to keep up with ever changing information to keep it current. You have to learn to live in an ever evolving world. One where technology, medicine and science is constantly advancing and globalization and multiculturalism is growing. :) ]&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup></small> 07:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:Globalisation and Multiculturalism will be the downfall of mankind if allowed to occur. Negroid is not outdated, it was never part of common vernacular. It is a scientific, anthropological term. --] 07:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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Your Username

Your username "देसीफ्राल" is not made with letters in the Latin alphabet. WP:USERNAME says to create a username with letters from the Latin alphabet, so other editors can distinguish your username.----Tea 06:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

As a courtesy, not a requirement. --देसीफ्राल 02:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Your username appears to say "Desipheral".----Tea 02:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Would you be so kind to create a redirect to your user and user talk page in the Latin alphabet? I'd also recommend that you include this Latinised name in your signature, as required by Misplaced Pages:Signatures#Non-Latin. Melsaran 12:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It is not a requirement, according to the page you link. Hornplease 18:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Photo at WP

Hi, and thanks for helping with the missing photo. Although I like the photo of the Austrian woman, it is of an unknown model while the rest of the people have verifiable heritage to a particular nationality or ethnic group. Minor nit. But above all thanks for the support. Cheers! --Kevin Murray 08:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Cheers Kevin, I haven't gotten too involved in the whole issue, just didn't want to see that empty spot! If there's a better photo you think is more suitable, by all means change it. --देसीफ्राल 08:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I was looking for one, but couldn't find another greek woman and the Olympia D. photo was deleted. Talk to you soon. --Kevin Murray 08:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

3RR warning

Please note that Misplaced Pages policy forbids doing reverts (for example, deletion) more than 3 times within 24 hours. If you violate this rule, your account will be blocked by an administrator. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 12:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

White people

You beat me to it! A perfect piece of OR. It is like he is incapable of using sources! I just love how he specified that Lebanon is in Asia. Anyway, let's keep that in mind for the inevitable RFC. The Behnam 04:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, so basically the checkuser was saying, "It's so obvious that it is an abusive sockpuppet that there is no need to run a checkuser." That's something, though I'd prefer that they actually run the checkuser for evidence-related reasons. Somehow the way it is now doesn't make it clear that the sockpuppet belongs to Muntuwandi, specifically. Anyhow, we can still get Gongdong-whatever blocked, I think by simple request at ANI. I'll ask clarification from Deskana about it being Muntuwandi's sockpuppet. The Behnam 04:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Ramdrake and Muntuwandi may be the same? That would be, well, very very clever abuse if that is the case. I've noticed that Ramdrake defends Muntuwandi too much, even at times when Muntuwandi's actions are indefensible, but aside from that they seem different to me. If some stronger or more specific evidence does surface, however, please leave me a note.
Anyway, I've asked Deskana for clarification about what sort of conclusions can be drawn from the CU case. It is at User talk:Deskana#Request, if you are interested in following. In the meantime, I suppose I'll leave a note at ANI asking for a block of Gongdong based upon Deskana's recommendation. The Behnam 04:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Just to give you a heads up, the block for Gondwanaland has been requested at WP:ANI#Block request per CU recommendation. Cheers. The Behnam 04:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Note that User:Ramdrake is retired. It is a weird timing, given all the talk about similarities between Muntuwandi and him and Jeeny retiring...KarenAER 11:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

RFC for Muntuwandi

I believe he comprimises the integrity of Misplaced Pages. Look at his history. If he is like he is in White people article in all other articles, that's really sad for Misplaced Pages. I believe we have more than enough material about him but I feel lazy about pulling all the evidence together and starting a RFC. Will you be willing to do that? Here is some headstart: I'll ask the same to fourdee. Dbachmann already said, he would sign it but cant be bothered about starting one... KarenAER 11:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It would be my pleasure, I would have done it before now but I have been quite busy this week in the 'real' world. So I'll put something together this weekend, and hopefully wipe this little smudge from Misplaced Pages.
And yes, in response to your comment above, it is very peculiar timing, with various suspicions of sockpuppetry being raised. Hopefully now we will be able to concentrate on some real construction of the articles rather than just reverting and trying to remove the constant onslaught of bias, original research, and points of view these editors have been bringing to Misplaced Pages. --देसीफ्राल 11:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Your civility

Your statement that User:Muntuwandi "needs an indefinite block" on this edit is against WP:CIVIL which says to not call for bans or blocks.----Tea© 05:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I did not know that. Seems to be an odd policy, but a policy all the same. Thanks, --देसीफ्राल 05:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

this is nonsense. The call for a block may or may not have been justified, but calling for a block has nothing to do with incivility. Disruptive users are blocked, that's business as usual around here, nothing to do with WP:CIVIL. dab (𒁳) 11:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that dab, I thought it seemed to be a bit odd not being allowed to suggest an appropriate punishment, to help an admin gauge the situation --Phral 11:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Your abusive use of warning templates reported at WP:ANI

Hello, just to let you know I opened an incident report about your abusive use of vandalism warning templates in what is clearly a content dispute.--Ramdrake 12:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Reinserting pictures and information, after community consensus to remove them, is vandalism. Your actions are not disimilar to that of a troll. --Phral 13:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal Case

Hello, you have been listed as a potential participant in an informal mediation regarding a dispute over White people. The case page is listed at Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2007-08-19_White_people. I am looking over the case, and am willing to offer my assistance in this. If you are willing to participate in the mediation and willing to accept my offer to mediate, please let me know. Thank you, Neranei (talk) 22:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hitler

Does that mean you would prefer Hitler over Bush! Seth71 15:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Lol, I said I know who I'd choose, you can infer what you like! --Phral 21:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Accusing others of wrongful vandalism

Please don't accuse editors of vandalism unless you're absolutely sure they have committed it. In particular, avoid using the word in edit summaries (such as "reverting vandalism"), and be very careful about posting vandalism warning templates on user's talkpages. Review the vandalism policy thoroughly before you do that, and see especially the section "What vandalism is not". Note that content disputes are not vandalism, and that good-faith edits of any kind, even if you think them misguided, are not to be considered vandalism. Vandalism accusations without any basis in policy are bad for the climate on the wiki and make constructive discussion more difficult. See WP:VAND: "If a user treats situations which are not clear vandalism as such, then it is he or she who is actually harming the encyclopedia by alienating or driving away potential editors." See also Misplaced Pages:Avoid the word "vandal".

- Jeeny  02:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

suspected sock

I have opened a case at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Hayden5650 with regards to you. Muntuwandi 07:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Muntuwandi, you are too kind --Phral 07:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


Mulatto

Hi Phral. I've been looking into this word, and according to the OED it means "a person with one white and one black parent." But apparently Carol Channing did not claim that her father had one Black and one White parent, she claimed that her father was part African American, so obviously one of her ancestors must have been a mulatto, but it wasn't her father. The OED makes no claim that this is a pejorative term so I think you are right on this point. All the best. Alun 05:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Yet the linked article Mulatto does claim it is a pejorative term. And is used like Alun said, for those of 50/50. - Jeeny  06:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

NPOV

Please stop reverting and accusing me of pushing a POV and that I'm adding shock value. What's so shocking about an outdated term? When that is exactly what the article is about. Not my POV, sheesh. Your's maybe? It is really disruptive when you do this. Please stop. This is the 21st century and this encyclopedia should reflect that. Just like I cannot rely on that old $500 (probably $2000 today) encyclopedia set my mother purchased in the 60s. Most of it is wrong, out of date! We need to keep up with ever changing information to keep it current. You have to learn to live in an ever evolving world. One where technology, medicine and science is constantly advancing and globalization and multiculturalism is growing. :) - Jeeny  07:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Globalisation and Multiculturalism will be the downfall of mankind if allowed to occur. Negroid is not outdated, it was never part of common vernacular. It is a scientific, anthropological term. --Phral 07:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
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