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Thats So Raven The Musical Movie

A couple things you should understand, wikipedia is dose not want to delete it users ask wikipedia for the page to be deleted. Users asked for the deletion because there is lack of sources. You said the director confirmed the movie, where is the source? Exactly there is none :) So I hope this clears things up a bit. --Yankeesrj12 16:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Huh? Someguy1221 17:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Click on Thats So Raven The Musical Movie page, and click the talk page --Yankeesrj12 03:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

My bad, i thought you were someone else --Yankeesrj12 01:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy Madison discussion

Hi Someguy,

I only deleted the discussion of that page because it was a question I asked many months ago about the copyright, in regard to the Happy Madison logo I had uploaded. The copyright issue was resolved a very long time ago so I thought it was ok to get rid of my question.

I don't mind if you think it needs to stay there.

Cheers,

Nick. AussieNickuss 09:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Negroid

Thanks for making certain that everything I said was completely ignored. It wasn't really necessary, though, because Misplaced Pages is quite capable of ignoring common sense, not looking at the facts, and missing the most idiotic crap right before its very eyes without the little extra boost to make sure any attempt to get the crap off the radar ASAP is ignored. Why don't you just read the damn article and what I said before you assume I'm just joining in some pre-existing idiotic edit war? The references are NOT ABOUT NEGROID. They are modern genetic studies on admixture mappings--a topic that didn't exist at the time "negroid" was used. And the edit-warring contigent has no interest in the facts of the article, they're just fighting about some picture. I hope this gets front page news on some blog--then maybe the lot of you fighting me will look at what I already said and see why Misplaced Pages is once more getting written up for crap. KP Botany 20:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't help but find this response of yours humorous, because I've been following this debate for over a week and I've sometimes (but silently) agreed with you. But that doesn't mean ANI is the right forum for it. Someguy1221 20:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? You haven't read anything I wrote at all, so you haven't agreed with what I said--I've posted only on one issue, and, what, you've agreed with me on the issues, sometimes but not others? This is my first post, on September 2, not a week ago. KP Botany 20:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, my bad, I fear I've mistaken you for someone else. Apologies. In any event, ANI is still not the correct forum, unless you would like to make an accusation of bad faith. Someguy1221 20:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Medical advice on the Ref Desks, redux

I'm bringing this here, because I don't want anyone to feel that they need to play to the gallery, and I don't want this side dispute to distract from the discussion on Misplaced Pages talk:Reference desk. It looks like we're still talking past each other, and we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot.

When I was referring to 'sneaking around' the guideline, I really didn't have your remark in mind. Frankly, I was thinking of StuRat, who has a long history of interpreting the medical advice rule in...unique ways. In that particular thread, he flatly states that offering a diagnosis is all right as long as it's a scary diagnosis that encourages the questioner to see a doctor and includes a referral to a physician . StuRat also uses the rather iffy tactic of referring medical questions from here to the Help Desk over on the Wikiversity project to answer them. One of the more recent threads where he has done this is one you might have seen: Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Archives/Science/2007 August 11#Intracranial pressure, referred to give this answer.

I grant that I was a little bit concerned about your approach as well—the rule bars offering any prognosis, good or bad. I know that your heart was in the right place, and that you were trying to be helpful. But when you say "Just about everything is reason to see a doctor as soon as possible", you're offering a prognosis along with a set of (scary) diagnoses. The questioner was explicitly seeking medical advice (diseases and outcomes), and you gave him just that.

I don't think you were attempting to break the rule, and I'm quite certain you had the best of intentions in offering your answer. I do think that you inadvertently stepped over the line anyway, and I'm asking you to look carefully at your answers to medical questions in the future. I only brought up your response on the Ref Desk talk page because I was hoping for advice on how to convey this point more clearly, and given your rather rude response to my comments, you seemed to not want to have anything more to do with me. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, I still don't believe that providing general information is against policy. However, I am beginning to see the multitude of reasons for not doing so much as informing an individual of the proper medical terminology for his symptom, most stemming from a possible misinterpretation by either OP or answerer resulting in directing said individual to the wrong page. And further, I had never considered the possibility that scaring someone might make them less likely to see a doctor. And funnily enough, StuRat's actions on this answer had me balking as well! (If you'll note, I provided the standard disclaimer above his response on our own ref desk.) I'll make sure to be more curt with painfully obvious requests for medical advice in the future, it's better for everyone. And I appologize for any rudeness I have sent your way, this was entirely the result of my interpretation of your comments as veiled accusations of bad faith. Someguy1221 02:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It's okay; the rules have been neglected or so spottily observed for so long that it's going to take a little while for everyone to feel out where the lines are actually drawn again. As you've observed, some editors have set a painfully bad example, and in comparison your edits were certainly the soul of restraint.

For what it's worth, your response really wasn't so bad—I've already had another editor draw comparisons between me and a Nazi war criminal for asking him to follow the guideline.

Cheers, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 21:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Shiloh shepherd pages

Yes-I have a question for you. Where are you getting your info that a male Shiloh should weigh 180#?? It is not in the breed standard & I was merely correcting innaccurate info that someone put in there. Perhaps before you go accusing someone (who has a male Shiloh & is familiar with the breed standard) of "vandalism" you should do some research! So, before you go deleting my info again why dont you go dig up the real Shiloh breed standard (not your Wiki version)& read it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.124.191 ([[User talk:71.66.124.191|talk]]) 07:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

My response is on your talk page. Someguy1221

07:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay- I am sorry--what is a hard return? Am i hitting a wrong button or something?71.66.124.191 07:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm referring to pressing the "enter" button. When I say "wrapping" of text, I'm referring to how a line that reaches the edge of the screen "wraps" over to the other side. Forcing text to do this by pressing "enter" (this is called a hard return) is not necessary, as your browswer will wrap the text by itself. Inserting hard returns can make the text appear ugly or unreadable depending on browser settings, and can disable various HTML coded objects, like the section headers you've been breaking in half. Someguy1221 07:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

VP

Glad it's not just me. I wonder if it's the program or of something happened with Misplaced Pages code. It was working fine about 5 hours ago (noon my time), I took a break and then it was fouling up around 3pm my time. Dreadstar † 21:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to file a report at AmiDaniel's bug tracker, and throw in a screenshot of the bug. It's really irking me...Someguy1221 21:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. I'm checking to see if there were any coding changes to wikipedia today too. Dreadstar † 22:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I added a picture to your bug. A pic of a skipped edit. Dreadstar † 00:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

replies

You have some replies on my talk page. The Transhumanist 17:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Man vs Wild

Thanks for your input on whether the issue qualified as SYN (despite your input going against my stance). I've been trying to get outside opinions for a while on this specific issue, and you're the first to weigh in. I really appreciate it. -- Rei 22:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Quicken

They seem really keen to keep editing their page don't they! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.40.113.91 (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have delivered them a final warning. One more edit like that and they'll be blocked. Someguy1221 19:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I've replied

Psst, hit my talk page. :) RainbowOfLight 07:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Useless?

Should 'useless' qualify a page for deletion? What is your opinion on the page CIA triad? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JA.Davidson (talk • contribs) 02:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll look at it but...did we bump into eachother somewhere, or is this just completely random? Someguy1221 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Uh, at first glance this appears to be an article on a non-subject. I can't even tell what this is supposed to be about aside from a collection of random ideas. Usless isn't a reason for deletion, nor is being a sucky article. What the article really needs is to be rewritten or substantially added to so it's clear what the article is actually about. Short of that, deleted for lack of notability. You can't very well have notability established without having enough sources to explain what the subject actually is. Someguy1221 03:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Review

I noticed that the deletion review has not unprotected the page for US Petrochemical that I wanted to create new using your guidelines. Please advise where I should create and who I should submit to.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Achtungberlin (talk • contribs)

You can create the article at User:Achtungberlin/Sandbox. Upon its completion it can be submitted for review at WP:DRV (I can do that for you if you wish). But please be aware that the article absolutely must comply with our notability guideline for corporations. The article must be referenced by at least two (at the bare minimum) independent (which means not from the same publisher, and not from the company itself) reliable sources. The easiest way to do this is to provide news or business articles from major newspapers or magazines that discuss the company. I regret if I've made this seem overly buerocratic, but all subjects written about on Misplaced Pages must be notable. And if the article reads like promotional material, it will be refused by DRV, as this is the same reason all previous versions were deleted. And finally, please note that you would get the same criteria from anyone here versed in Wikipolicy, as meeting my above requirements are the only way for the article to pass a review. (and please stick to one username.) Someguy1221 02:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism

Hey, thanks for your vandalism reversions at Stephen Mandel, Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta, Mark Norris, and Ed Stelmach. One request, though: if you're reverting the edits of a vandal who has made a series of consecutive edits, could you make sure you're reverting everything they did? Some stuff slipped through your reversion in both the Norris and Stelmach articles. Sarcasticidealist 06:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I only missed vandalism in the Mark Norris article, which I only failed to notice due to the curiously constructive addition that accompanied it. Someguy1221 06:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Er, oops. I missed it on Stelmach too, my bad :-( Someguy1221 06:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Why are you contesting Caffe D'Amore's Article

I'm sorry you feel this is an advertisement, but it is simply a historical documentation of a company forumalted over 100 years ago. If you feel this is an advertisement, then Peets coffee, Folgers, The Coffee Bean, the San Antonio Winery and other articles should be removed.

There is no advertising in this article.

The are the facts of this company which started many trends for the beverage industry. I think that is valid.

Dreambuildersco 18:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I did a large rewrite of the page. You may wish to reexamine it. Baccyak4H (Yak!) 19:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/RedirectCleanupBot

Is your comment/oppose a serious comment? You do realize it's a bot, right? - auburnpilot talk 15:09, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Last Piece theory

Just wondering, what is the last piece theory? HarrisonB Speak! 05:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The theory that humans become more generous to one another when food supplies become scarce. Someguy1221 05:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks; I was reading your userpage and had no idea what you meant, because of the page being deleted now. HarrisonB Speak! 00:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't revert the reference desk

You are approaching violating the 3rr. The post you are reverting, while you may feel is funny, contributes nothing to the discussion, and only serves to ridicule. If you continue in this, you will be reported to an admin. Malamockq 03:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Malamockq, step back and take a look at what you're removing. The OP asked for a way to stop a bullet with a magnetic field, and Sean suggested a way to stop a bullet using a magnetic field. You can't get more on topic than that. When considering removal of an otherwise harmless comment from a discussion, always give the poster the benefit of the doubt. Someguy1221 03:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

You know, for your sake I'll just quote straight from the guidelines (in case the humor is an issue for you):

The desk is not intended to present an overly formal atmosphere; responses may be lighthearted while still maintaining their purpose. Humor is allowed in reference desk answers, provided it is:

• relevant to the question,
• not at the expense of other people, including the questioner, and
• not needlessly offensive to the "typical" reference desk reader.

Someguy1221 04:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

parallel versions

Greetings

I think you may have noticed that I created a disambiguation page for Rohullah. It looks like we both prepared parallel versions of an article about the 2006 Bagram captive Rohullah.

Can we agree they should be merged?

I made a point of not naming any articles about Muslims as if Haji, Mullah, Maulvi were their given names. These are honorary titles, like Reverend. American military intelligence analysts have treated these titles as if they are part of the individuals' names, and I strongly suspect that this played a role in their inability to keep track of the captives, resulting in the mistaken release of Mullah Shahzada and Maulvi Abdul Ghaffar.

I believe your version has an error. It wasn't Rohullah who was transferred to Afghan custody, it was the ohter guy named in their joint writ of habeas corpus -- Razutullah.

Cheers! Geo Swan 01:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The reason of the delete in the Mexican Army page

Hello: This is my reason to delete some parts of the Mexican Army page. I was trying to improve the Mexican Army page with the information of Military of Mexico that has the same information but with more explanations and data. Please, forgive my rokyness. Best regards. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.167.98.246 (talk) 07:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Copy-paste of Physical layer

I appologize for copying and pasting, but the default scheme for Capitolization of each word was off on Physical_layer, this was causing some broken link issues on a page I was composing. Every word in the filename should start with a capitol letter to avoid this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.nelson (talk • contribs) 00:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

My reply is on your talk page. Someguy1221 01:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Redirect tip, I'm still relatively new to editing wiki's and didn't know about that little feature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.nelson (talk • contribs) 01:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the deal?

Can you tell me what the real deal is? Are you a fellow Brit? or is there another reason why you think it is ok for someone to make inflamitory remarks on a discussion?

KITCARLSON —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitcarlson (talk • contribs) 21:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Let's go over this once more for the record, then. As for the soapbox/vanity comment: The article was created by its own subject, so while presuming it to be intentional self-promotion or advertising (which would qualify it as a soapbox) may not be assuming the best faith, I hope you can comprehend that many editors will arrive at this conclusion. In fact, we even have a guideline specifically for this sort of thing, since this has happened so very often in the past, and is generally discouraged. As for the spa comments, don't argue that; your contribs speak for themselves. Every edit you have made is either to the ICOF article or adding links to ICOF (both internal and external) to other articles. There's really nothing to discuss here. Someguy1221 22:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)