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Thanks & welcome ] (]) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC) Thanks & welcome ] (]) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Cleanemupnowboys. Thanks for dropping by on the ] article. Although I don't think your previous account was in any way tarnished, as an act of good faith, it might be worth ] to let them privately know who you were.

Thanks & welcome ] (]) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

==References==
Hi,

In order to establish goodwill. I asked on the page and I would like to ask here again, specifically;

* a) which complete books and papers are you relying on for information?

Websites don't really count. I would like to make specific references to illustrate my point but if you have not read the materials, there is little point.

* b) what is the length and depth of your own direct involvement with the BKWSU?

If we look at your first revisions, it appears personally motivated and your comments on the original first paragraph are not tenable. There is nothing POV in it. It is short and factual. You can argue whether it is either right or wrong but otherwise please point me out the "POV"?

The problems with your first two edits is that they are factually wrong.

* a) the sandeshputris (and others) were not channelers, they were trance messengers or individuals "given gifts of divine visions"
* b) the problems with the local community did not start off "due to the elevated status" (the community had been going for 5 years without any major problems and was even spoken well off), they started off because of marital problems, specifically relating to Lekhraj Kripalani's taking his own daughter back and other women refusing sex to their husbands and issues relating to child protection. Those are the historical facts recorded in the court proceedings.

The difference between the Misplaced Pages and the Britannia is that the Britannia has a 200 year plus history, uses recognized experts in each field, dedicated reference and copy editors, and proper academic peer review. Yes, most of those primary experts will be practising in the field they are editing about and have direct experience.

Thanks --] (]) 12:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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Hello Cleanemupnowboys, and Welcome to Misplaced Pages!

Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement.

Happy editing! Bksimonb (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Getting started
Finding your way around
Editing articles
Getting help
How you can help


Hi Cleanemupnowboys. Thanks for dropping by on the BKWSU article. Although I don't think your previous account was in any way tarnished, as an act of good faith, it might be worth sending arbcom an email to let them privately know who you were.

Thanks & welcome Bksimonb (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

References

Hello Cleanemupnowboys, and Welcome to Misplaced Pages!

Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement.

Happy editing! Bksimonb (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Getting started
Finding your way around
Editing articles
Getting help
How you can help


Hi Cleanemupnowboys. Thanks for dropping by on the BKWSU article. Although I don't think your previous account was in any way tarnished, as an act of good faith, it might be worth sending arbcom an email to let them privately know who you were.

Thanks & welcome Bksimonb (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

References

Hi,

In order to establish goodwill. I asked on the page and I would like to ask here again, specifically;

  • a) which complete books and papers are you relying on for information?

Websites don't really count. I would like to make specific references to illustrate my point but if you have not read the materials, there is little point.

  • b) what is the length and depth of your own direct involvement with the BKWSU?

If we look at your first revisions, it appears personally motivated and your comments on the original first paragraph are not tenable. There is nothing POV in it. It is short and factual. You can argue whether it is either right or wrong but otherwise please point me out the "POV"?

The problems with your first two edits is that they are factually wrong.

  • a) the sandeshputris (and others) were not channelers, they were trance messengers or individuals "given gifts of divine visions"
  • b) the problems with the local community did not start off "due to the elevated status" (the community had been going for 5 years without any major problems and was even spoken well off), they started off because of marital problems, specifically relating to Lekhraj Kripalani's taking his own daughter back and other women refusing sex to their husbands and issues relating to child protection. Those are the historical facts recorded in the court proceedings.

The difference between the Misplaced Pages and the Britannia is that the Britannia has a 200 year plus history, uses recognized experts in each field, dedicated reference and copy editors, and proper academic peer review. Yes, most of those primary experts will be practising in the field they are editing about and have direct experience.

Thanks --Lucyintheskywithdada (talk) 12:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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