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Re: Speedy question

Re your message: Sorry. =) The generic {{db-a7}} would be fine. You could also use {{db}} and then fill in something. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my user page. ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡ 06:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from myself also. :) -- Longhair\ 09:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

They'll run out of pc's at their local pre-school soon enough :) -- Longhair\ 09:36, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thank you for your reply. It was really, really kind and thoughtful. Misplaced Pages needs more people like you. Thank you.Thright (talk) 07:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

For keeping an eye on my Talk page. Edison (talk) 04:44, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Gracias

We're all douchebags from time to time. :-) You're welcome. Hersfold 03:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I was going to explain that with a link, but it's just too funny the way it is. Redrocket (talk) 03:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hulked Up

I'm reporting all of the socks to this administrator. Could you alert User:Daniel Case? He has also dealt with them. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Can't believe these accounts weren't blocked yet :( -- Well I'm going to bed, and User:Bluerockett or someone else is probably going to keep bothering my talk page. Think you could watchlist it for me? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you're gonna file a report, make sure you mention all of the socks from here. See ya, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Would you please take another look at the Theresa Duncan article?

I'm afraid I just botched things up by attempting to revert Theresa Duncan to the last version prior to numerous edits by User:Door1134 and User:192.58.221.151, none of which were substantiated. The version I reverted to was this one, but I acted hastily and apparently did not do what was necessary to properly identify the version I was reverting to. Therefore I just undid my changes.

As far as I can see, none of the changes made by this person (I am assuming it's one person) were substantiated in any way, and the changes replaced text that had citations. While you undid some of the changes, I don't see any reason that any of them should have been kept. I would appreciate it if you'd take a look and see what you think. Also, the same person made similar changes to the Jeremy Blake article, which I also believe should be reverted. Thanks. Candy (talk) 04:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I just took a look at your changes to Jeremy Blake's article. There are still some things that I think should be changed back. The main thing is that the person who made the changes seems to believe Blake did not die, so he or she has removed references to Blake's death being confirmed when his body was found and identified. I haven't seen any reliable press calling that identification into question. (If you want to see the changes I'm talking about, see here.) I will leave these for now, because I realize I may be missing something since you allowed them. I also made a couple more changes on the Theresa Duncan piece because the editor had rephrased a sentence to be passive ("it was believed," not specifying who believed). I didn't reinstate the part about Blake's body being found, though I don't see why it shouldn't be mentioned. Again, it seems to have been deleted because the editor believes Blake didn't kill himself. (FYI, there is a past history of conspiracy-themed edits to these pieces.) Candy (talk) 12:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Tyar

I have filed a block request on this editor here. You can ignore his trolling. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I read this edit summary and was wondering who's sock you think it is. Could you let me know here? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The user in question

Tivedshambo temporarily protected its talk page, as you may have noticed. Now we have to deal with its socks, apparently. Enigma 07:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

comment from sock of blocked user

Please remove your comment from WP:AN. It is cruel. When persons are getting hurt, jokes don't help. You would go to a funeral and start laughing. 165.21.155.108 (talk) 07:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, if it was a funeral for a clown. Redrocket (talk) 07:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I also would order the Socks Gone Wild video. By the way, community consensus is that IPs are not entitled to blank their talk pages. Enigma 07:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Sockadelic!

Suspect Michaelfriesen is a sock puppet (or at least a meat puppet) of clayzer? I find it hard to believe that anyone reasonable would eagerly step up to the plate for a guy's right to award himself, inter alia, "the barnstar of jew-killing." Non Curat Lex (talk) 08:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. I know you're reading this too, Clayzer. Have fun at ANI. Redrocket (talk) 08:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Haha, it's conclusive. Check the sock's talk page. Enigma 16:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Inactiveness

Just stoping by to say hello, and explain a few things: I haven't really been active on WP, or anything for that matter recently because my computer is reaching its final days. I've had it for 7 years, and it is un-upgradeable. You know, one of those all-in-one apple iMacs. So.. ya. I have to quit netscape every so often as it gets slower the longer I leave it open, and right now it is quite slow, taking about 2 minutes to go to a page in WP despite the fact that I have broadband now.

Hopefully, once I get a new computer, you won't be the only one around here who's a vandal magnet, cuz then well, I'll really be able to help.

So, bascially.. I'm on a.. on and off-constant wikibreak. I edit when my computer decides not to be stupid(slow as hell, takes 5 minutes to realize I moved an item to the trash -_- , well, see you later.— Dædαlus / Improve 10:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Note of thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for trying to help the new editor trying to re-re-re-recreate Harbour square; I appreciated your helpful approach, even though it's unlikely that the article will remain. He may feel bitten, but it certainly won't be your fault. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I was just about to delete it as spam when I noticed the assertion within the body of the article about the National Register of Historic Places. I'm not sure if this qualifies as an assertion of notability -- I'm not American and so not familiar with this Register. Your opinion would be appreciated. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from me, too. =) Hopefully he or she will take you up on the offer and a proper article will result from it. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment from blocked user

Do you see it as abusive? You have my IP. -- 125.69.247.138

Honestly, I see it as unproductive and more than a little bit willfully ignorant of the way things work around wikipedia. The whole point of getting a registered user ID is to establish an identity, and to do so by claiming an ID and promptly turning around and redirecting everything to an anonymous IP page seems kind of silly.

From the first time you made an edit to remove a hoax page through improper means, you've seemed to enjoy walking right at the edge of disrupting wikipedia to make a point. This move, combined with your wikilawyering approach of talking anyone into the ground who tries to discuss things with you, is the same thing. Redrocket (talk) 04:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD for Coronado_High_School_(El_Paso, _Texas)

Redrocket, just wanted to give you a heads up that I have nominated the above page for deletion. It does not appear to meet standard notability guidelines, and does not even meet the (non-standard) school notability guidelines. Discussion is, of course, Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Coronado_High_School_(El_Paso, _Texas). Sapph42 (talk) 11:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent messages

Oh...no personal attacks. Right. Don't care.

Oh yeah, and if you're so smart, do you think you can tell me how to delete an account? A friend of mine wants to know. They said it's "a nerdfest and a complete waste of time. I want to get off." Hey, don't talk to me about it. Talk to a Wikiquote user and a friend of mine: Nicktoon Warrior.

Oh, yeah. Thanks for letting me know. I could use a new name, because mine makes me sound like a total loser.

From SONIC 123 Hh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SONIC 123 Hh (talk • contribs) 17:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: sockpuppet?

Well, I am not familiar with how to identify sockpuppets, so I don't think my comments would be very helpful. The sockpuppet will most likely succumb to AIV, does it matter to you if that happens? J.delanoy_adds 20:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

That was quite the fast rv. Thanks much, --Bfigura 01:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your advice on the question I posted on the editor's assistance page. I'm still not clear. If someone thinks I am a sockpuppet, does that make it acceptable to delete comments others wrote on my page? You advised me to open my own Wiki username account. I hesitate to do that for a number of reasons. I'm in favor of net openness. For instance, I resent having to "register" just to read certain newspapers on line (I still have to see the ads there and that's how they make their money). Every time I've ever registered on any website, I've ended up with spam and other unwanted contacts. Anyway, HiDrNick has had all kinds of trouble with other users (as you can see by tediously going through the history links on his own discussion page--he routinely deletes anything posted there which challenges his own opinions). He's been "warned" and "blocked" repeatedly in the past. Maybe I'm just being too sensitive to someone else's abominable behavior. Thanks. 206.74.61.67 (talk) 00:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm just saying with two anonymous editors editing the exact same article in the same way, it does raise some red flags. I advise all IP editors who are interested in working to make the wiki better to go ahead and get an ID. If you don't want to be contacted, don't give your email address. You're actually more anonymous with an ID than without. Good luck! Redrocket (talk) 02:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sockadelic

I read the edits, but can't figure out if these are coming from a sockpuppet. Did you ask User:David A? He knows the content on the page well, try asking him. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Will do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redrocket (talk • contribs)

Thanks for reverting that vandal. Hope that's the last of him now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

ALEX JONES EDITS

On July 25, 2001 Jones called on all of his listeners to call the White House hotline and prevent the impending false flag event that later materialised as the 9/11 attacks. He predicted the blame being placed on Osama Bin Laden and has been a champion of the 9/11 Truth movement ever since.

This was heard by thousands and has been replayed on his radio program as well as circulated on numerous video sites.

For you to blindly erase this fact is to erase a large volume of this man's life work.

There is a glaring gap of wiki info for Jones' life between 2000 and 2006, the most active part of his activisim.

WOLFSERPENTCROWRAT —Preceding unsigned comment added by WOLFSERPENTCROWRAT (talk • contribs) 03:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied to your talk page on this one, which involves removing totally unsourced material as per WP:BLP. Redrocket (talk) 05:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

From one wiki page to another

I have made a more suitable contribution.

Alex Jones claims to have predicted the attacks in July 2001, on his syndicated radio show at infowars.com, even mentioning the World Trade Centre as a potential target and that Bin Laden, the known CIA asset, might be used as a ‘patsy’. He launched a campaign to try to stop the attacks, which he called “Operation Expose The Government Terrorists”. Jones has been referred to as the progenitor of the movement.

As opposed to:

On July 25, 2001 Jones called on all of his listeners to call the White House hotline and prevent the impending false flag event that later materialised as the 9/11 attacks. He predicted the blame being placed on Osama Bin Laden and has been a champion of the 9/11 Truth movement ever since. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WOLFSERPENTCROWRAT (talk • contribs) 05:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied again to your talk page , I appreciate you trying, but the statement is still completely without a source. Redrocket (talk) 05:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Non sequitur

You are one funny guy. I'd like to party with you, bucko, if my two-headed llama didn't keep me home at nights.74.234.39.218 (talk) 02:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Amos Matthews

please leave the article in place - significant figure in Towson history, I don't have all my sources with me at this time —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teda13 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied to your talk page. Redrocket (talk) 05:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

i disagree with your thought about deleting an in-progress page or considering it within such a short period of time completely, this is a collaborative and sharing enterprise and as such the materials should hang around for more than a few hours so someone who is not the originator but with actual interest in the content can collaborate and edit with thoughtfulness, someone who might be from Towson, or interested in local history, who doesn't have the ability to be awake at the late hours when I am able to contribute --Teda13 (talk) 05:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied to your talk page. Redrocket (talk) 05:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I disagree / if someone has no direct interest in the subject, or knowledge in a tiny specific subject - it seems to me that there is no reason to be hasty to do so seems arbitrary and hurtful to the knowledge gathering of a few in favor of some mindless mechanical construct --Teda13 (talk) 06:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Teda13 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Alrighty. Good luck. Redrocket (talk) 06:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Question for you...

Do you work at a radio station? If so, how much do radio stations pay per song to play them on the radio? Thanks...IP4240207xx (talk) 07:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I did at one point, but I only rarely worked at music stations. That was all handled through BMI and ASCAP, from what I recall. Sorry I couldn't be of more help! Redrocket (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome

... to our sock-tribe. Hope you enjoy the company of User:Dbachmann, User:Rudrasharman and self-admitted member User:Relata refero. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 00:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the attempted vandalism on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Haha its sad when it is "attempted" yet not successful =D « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 07:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Being Civil

I tried being civil and i tried discussing the issue i had with him to him, and he only sent me a random generic message, he needs to explain himself. --Axeman 10 (talk) 04:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a personal matter between the two of you, and sending incomprehensible messages like this won't help. Redrocket (talk) 04:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Then what do you propose the right thing is i should do?

--Axeman 10 (talk) 05:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Stop sending weird messages, as above. If you have a problem with the user, talk it over with them. If you think it's a problem you can't get past, take it to WP:ANI. Regardless, making edits like you did above makes it look like you're the one vandalizing someone else's page. Redrocket (talk) 05:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I get the whole "Stop sending weird messages" thing. But i just tried to explain to you he won't talk it over, and as far as the thing he has an issue with me goes, i didn't vandalize that page, he needs to get the guts to explain how what he did was fair or mind his own business. --Axeman 10 (talk) 05:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

What edit of yours did he call vandalism? If it was a one time thing and a mistake, it's best just to let it drop. Redrocket (talk) 05:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

It was on the Cell (dragonball) page, i just made a minor edit adding some info not mentioned, and he sent me a generic warning about not vandalizing. I wrote back about a week later asking him how exactly i was vandalizing the page, and he sent me the exact same thing again, with the old date on it and everything. --Axeman 10 (talk) 05:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

(OD)Looking back on it, your edits on April 2 to the Cell (Dragon Ball) page were unsourced. Please read WP:OR for details on what original research is, but basically you drew conclusions that weren't supported by an outside source. That's not allowed by wikipedia standards. It appears that he warned you about that on April 2, and then didn't post on your page again. You have on three occasions tried to make posts on his page, and he has declined every time. He doesn't have to respond if he doesn't want to, so leave him alone. Don't resort to vandalizing his page to try and get his attention. Redrocket (talk) 06:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you don't waste your time on this one, RR, as you can see from his past blocks, he has a history, even if it is small, wish harrassing other editors, along with addition of unsourced material.— Dædαlus / Improve 06:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you mean "with" Daedalus969, and to be honest, i do have a small history, but i've been trying to improve. I will be posting again and with sources this time. But i won't bother your friend anymore, since obviously he can't get beyond generic warnings. --Axeman 10 (talk) 06:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

And by the way, is favortism, or discussing people like this really a good thing? I'm at least trying to stay out of trouble now. --Axeman 10 (talk) 06:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I do, but that is beside the point. First, if you bothered to read WP policies, the warnings are there because of a rule regarding reporting vandalous editors to WP:AiV. Four warnings are given, then the user is reported if he or she continues to vandalize or w/e after the fourth warning.— Dædαlus / Improve 06:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

This has been a waste of time for all of us, lets just drop it and forget about it, or at least for like a few hours at the very least, though i'd rather we not have to talk anymore. --Axeman 10 (talk) 07:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Then stop talking about it, please. Redrocket (talk) 07:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I already had, and hopefully we won't have to talk anymore. I don't know if you'll reply since i'm not planning on looking at this page again. --Axeman 10 (talk) 07:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, just leave already. Redrocket (talk) 07:34, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the background. It really does help me to evaluate situations like that. I'd appreciate you giving me a heads up if you see anything funny happening there.

Thanks, also, for your very kind comments about my work. I appreciate that more than you know. Best wishes, - Philippe 00:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help...

Ok, sounds good RedRocket. Thank you again for putting the links in your posts. That makes it really easy for me to go to them. Wiki is a little bit disorganized sometimes. I surely understand your concerns regarding citations. I like good citations in articles, too. When it comes to Scripture, we need to allow Scripture to prove itself. Put it up on the witness stand, so to speak. What I mean is this: if I can show you fifteen different passages that say the same exact thing in slightly different wording, that IS our secondary, and tertiary source. I could always site commentaries, and I probably will in some cases. That can get really wordy, though. As long as the citations are simple Scriptural passages, and the context doesn’t get into extremes, then I believe the changes should be left. The sections that I changed hardly had any citations, and needed some “body”. I added a lot of citations and organized the sections a little. We are trying to write an article that shows how MOST churches of Christ worship and how they use Scripture. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, and I love encyclopedias just like everyone else here. When it comes to the part of the encyclopedia where religion comes up, we’ll see quite a bit of Bible verses. And that’s ok. It’s when we start adding material from outside the Bible that the discussion will become difficult to understand. Cross referencing will be our best tool. Again, thank you for helping me with the links and the ways of Wiki. Mark0880 (talk) 02:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Redrocket..

Hi Epecho/RedRocket! Thank you for the responses. Can you give me any specific examples of this bias that is not objective in some of my postings? I'd like to make some comparisons so that I better understand everyone here. You know, I spent a lot of time thinking about biases, and citations, and such today. I want to firstly apologize for posting w/o coming here first. Of course, I was not aware of the rules/regs. (Wiki is a little disorganized) However, that is not an excuse. Maybe a reason, but not an excuse. So to everyone out there who has been perplexed and irritated by my postings, I say: I apologize. It wont happen again. I will take the orthodox methods that are the norm to make suggestions. Thank you!! Mark0880 (talk) 03:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

User:BrianKarjala

Since User:BrianKarjala isn't actually Brian Karjala, I think this name fails the username requirements test, and should probably be blocked indef. Do you think this is a reasonable thing to do? Or would it be better to leave the troll with the current known name, rather than have him pop up somewhere else under a new name? Loren.wilton (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I think he should probably be blocked for misrepresnting himself, as a courtesy to the real BK. I'll keep the article watched, so if the IP comes back I'll spot him. Redrocket (talk) 06:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I posted over at username complaints mentioning he was impersonating someone else. I imagine that will result in a block. Loren.wilton (talk) 08:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Non-Notable Question

Why did you undo my change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrapefruitFuture (talk • contribs) 19:18, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Left a message on your talk page. Redrocket (talk) 19:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

what about sites such as sex2ube, and RedTube, they are on there and don't have their own wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrapefruitFuture (talk • contribs) 19:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sockpuppets & Whatnot

Re your message: I'm not familiar with the topic either, but one of the accounts has been dealt with and it is on WP:ANI so, there's not much more that I can do about it.

On a different note, thanks for reverting the sockpuppet's comment on my talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)