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:Simon. I assume you are talking about the ] article. I suggest you start by reading , which will point you to ]. There is a lot of advice there. ] (]) 17:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC) :Simon. I assume you are talking about the ] article. I suggest you start by reading , which will point you to ]. There is a lot of advice there. ] (]) 17:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Please. I have lived in Oakamoor all my life. I was the one who created the Oakamoor page on Misplaced Pages. Please do not alter it anymore. I am changing it back to the way it was. And I will continue to do so. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

Again, I will assume and submit whatever I feel like. You are not God. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

By continually editing the Oakamoor article and deleting facts that are TRUE, it is YOU who is vandalizing the Oakamoor wikipedia entry and claming ownership. EVERYTHING that I have put in the entry was true, and if it was not due to misinformation from my various sources, it was edited accordingly. As you may now wikipedia is a public ownership encyclopedia, therefore it is up to its users to ensure information is true. I am doing this duty and ensuring that the Oakamoor entry is accurate and consistent with reality. If you do not stop this behavior I will recommend that your IP address is banned from wikipedia permanently. I am quite frankly ashamed that someone would want to defame the small village of Oakamoor and I think I speak for everyone when I say that you have no right to act in such a manner. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

As you can see, I have altered the Oakamoor page. Now it has the official description provided by the the AboutBritain website who maintain a site about Oakamoor. It has a verifiable link. If you remove or change this page, I will treat the matter as vandalism. This is your last warning. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Welcome!

Hello, Mr Stephen, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  DVD+ R/W 23:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

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I was told that i edited a 'clone CD' page, putting bad language and insults in it. But i didn't edit that page because i've never even been there. This isn't the first time that i have been falsely accused of editing a page with profanities and insults. I do understand that youre trying to keep Misplaced Pages "clean", its just annoying being accused of something i havn't done. Do you have any idea of how some one else could of edited wikipedia themselves, but make it appear to you that I have done it? if you do i would much appreciate a response.

ben_alternative_f1@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.143.38 (talk) 07:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

You probably have a dynamic or shared IP. Your best bet is to get an account. Mr Stephen 07:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

WPGM New Monthly Newsletter

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter
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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter
Issue I - October 2007
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Member news

The project currently has 21 members. However, it could increase with the {{Welcome WPGM}} on usertalk pages, as seen with GRB1972

Pages Needing Attention

Didsbury - it recently failed a GA review - could it be promoted eventually?

Current Debates

Should The Filmworks and The Printworks be merged? See here for more.

Monthly Challenges
May seem like old news now, but Manchester was recently listed as a good article, try and make as much effort as you can with trying to make it featured.

Manchester Airport has seen unprecedented vandalism from anonymous editors recently, on 24th September it was protected by MastCell for a period of 1 week. Make sure to visit the page (after that date) regularly so we can stamp out any "bad edits".


Try to invite more members to this project. As much as a streamlined team is good, the more editors we have the broader the range we can cover.


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It is a relivent link I am posting!

Do you know what newspapers are on Merseyside? Get you facts correct and stop changing the posts see... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/3754282.stm also see http://www.skvpr.co.uk/nwda.html etc....

It is not adverts... Stop spoiling the site and stop changing info! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.58.191 (talk) 17:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

replied Mr Stephen 18:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

WPGM Newsletter - November 2007

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The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter
Issue II - November 2007
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Member news

The project now has 28 members! 7 new participants enrolled this week, they can be viewed here. There was also change to the welcoming messages this month, by Jza84, which reinvigorated the style in response to the change of colours on the main and affiliated pages. See the welcome templates, here. Finally, a barnstar has been created for the project! See the final design on this page, and so far it has been awarded to one lucky participants, WebHamster. Well done.

Greater Manchester Article News

Well has this month been a hub of activity, or what? (See:Original diff) The new assessment scale has been welcomed by many here at WPGM and as of 4th November, 81.37% of all 650 articles have been assessed with both importance and class. Two articles have been passed good article criteria since last delivery, they are: Didsbury & Dunham Massey. Well done to all involved.

Current Debates

There was a lengthy debate over a certain number of related articles in Manchester City Centre this week, (See:the thread involved). Aytoun Street, Barton Square, Brazenoose Sqaure, Dover Street, Manchester and Police Street were all flagged by Pit-yacker as being deserved of deletion per lacking notablilty. The process took 5 days at articles for deletion and the result was, delete. Other sections that readied editors into scrambling over themselves this month were: should Greater Manchester boroughs get their own infobox? Such as with London boroughs. The debate continutes.

Monthly Challenges
Same as last month, we've have to get Manchester upto Featured articleFeatured Article Standard. However, with Manchester now rated as A-Class (above GA and below FA) it may be easier than first thought. Try to fill all the current "to do" requirements. There has also been some talk of increased activity of bringing Greater Manchester to Good Article Standard. It would be ideal if all 650 articles were at least GA standard, but that will never happen in the next month. But please if you can, assess your ability to understand an article and if you're acquauinted with the task in hand and potentially long wait for a writing and for a review, go ahead! Be bold.

Manchester Airport once again saw more vandal edits this month, and was protected for another consecutive month on 22nd October by Jmlk17. Some users have also realised the extreme coincidence in the first half of 65% of editing IPs, i.e. all begin with "79.72". Could it be the same editor? If you can keep visiting the page to revert vandalism in sight. The most freqeunt additions that are factually incorrect are the inclusions of: Chicago O'Hare and New York-JFK to Pakistan International Airlines (T2) and Newquay to Air Southwest (T3). MAN also has a peer review.


Although you may not have noticed that this WikiProject has a associated portal. The page named, Portal:North West England, is updated frequently, but it would be nice to get more editors. It too has recently undergone a peer review, and some criteria has been added to get the page to featured portal status. You could signify your involvement by adding {{User Portal NWE}} to your userpage.


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Bramall Hall

Thanks for your "heads-up" on the Bramall Hall article. --Malleus Fatuarum 20:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you been skriking?

Hello again Mr. Stephen! Firstly, I'm hoping you understand what the word "Skriking" means and you're familliar with it!.... I read on a wiki-article some time ago that the local word "Skriking" is of Old Norse origin (still intelligable in modern Danish language) meaning "crying loudly" that is prevailent in Oldham and Stockport because of their Danelaw origins... apparently.

I'm trying to locate that article, that phrase, and see if there's a source. It sure was in one of the Stockport related articles and not sure if you know of it??? - I know you're the one to ask though! It'd be a great bite of infomation to add to the Oldham article for it's FAC. No problem if you can't help, I won't be skriking too loud! -- Jza84 · (talk) 14:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

December Newsletter, Issue III

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

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Issue III - December 2007
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Member news

The project now has 31 members. 3 new participants enrolled last month, they can be viewed here. Andrew has also created another template for your talk page (even though this links to your userpage) which displays for all to see that you are a member of the project. You can add it to your page by including {{WPGM Talk}} to the page. It may be difficult to see the true effects of these welcoming messages, but I'm estimating that since the introduction of these that 12 new users have joined, all 100% have accepted their invitations, and therefore they are 100% successful in their aim.

Greater Manchester Article News

Once again, the project has been subject to much praise from three newly promoted featured articles, and one more good article. Oldham (nom), Manchester (nom), M62 motorway (nom) and Chat Moss (review) have all passed with flying colours. Featured articles now make up 0.03% more of the overall articles that there are relating to the project, than last month. Of all 791 pages which are tagged with this template, 100% have been assessed with the new scale which was introduced last month. It may also be worth noting two others pages that are undergoing transformations are: List of companies based in Greater Manchester and Belle Vue Zoo.

Current Debates

There was a lengthy debate over Manchester Airport this month, which lead to three article for deletions, second nominations viewable here and deletion review viewable here. Basically, what happened was there was quite a great misunderstanding of what the purpose of the lists actually were. They were to compile a list of the destinations served by each terminal and linked along into a sub-page, where it would seem the overview page (i.e. Manchester Airport) would look less cluttered, as was the suggestion at the peer review. Some participants at the first AFD, stated that reviews shouldn't be carried out upon unless there is consensus, and as they are not authorative should only be used as a guide. It was soon sorted though and all three daughter-lists were deleted. There has also been a change to the projects aims, which took a dramatic overhaul this week following the FA pass of Manchester. The change was performed by Jza84. It is now recognised that we should bring not only top importance articles to FA standard but also ones that have been long-since reviewed, like Altrincham and Stretford. And if you're wondering why Salford is there it's due to the fact that there is a consensus among the project members that as Salford is in such close vicinity to the City of Manchester, that it's our "duty" to help promote it. The change came about about after this discussion.

Monthly Challenges
New this month, we have to get Greater Manchester upto Featured articleFeatured Article Standard. However, with Manchester now rated as FA-Class and the proposed "skipping" of the GA process, it may not be too long before we see this under the success section on the project mainpage. It would be ideal if all 791 articles were at least GA standard, but that will never happen in the next month! But please if you can, assess your ability to understand an article and if you're acquauinted with the task in hand and potentially long wait for a writing and for a review, go ahead! Be bold. The progress monitor can be seen here.

Once again, Portal:North West England has been subject to much exposure on behalf of it's editors. The current status of the portal is looking good and it has so far gained unanimous support at it's FPOC. Hopefully, it'll be promoted and we'll have yet another success on our hands. Also, most major articles that are relevant have been tagged with a shortcut to the Portal mainpage, by Jza.


And finally, have a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


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Thanks for pointing that out! It's since been removed. I really should have proof-read it, even though I did.... :) — Rudget contributions 20:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

William Astle

Thanks, I did a search for '"William Astle" journalist' and didn't get anything that made it look like he was a notable journalist whereas '"William Astle" Stockport' makes it very clear. JMiall 12:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok

Sorry to interupt your precious time ~caw~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maclarenbrennan (talkcontribs) 03:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

January Newsletter, Issue IV

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter
Issue IV - January 2008
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Member news
Happy New Year to all our Greater Manchester Wikipedians! The project now has 34 members. 5 new participants enrolled last month, they can be viewed here. On behalf of the team I hope they have prosperous and enjoyable usership and wish them well with their forthcoming work! User:Archtransit and User:Rudget, both part of our team, are current candidates for adminship (see here for Archtransit and here for Rudget). We wish them luck with this persuit and hope they will become our latest project participants with admin status!
Greater Manchester Article News
Since our last newsletter delivered by User:Rudget on 03 December 2007, our teamship has continued to bear fruit in the form of obtaining featured article status for Chat Moss (nom). User:Malleus Fatuarum has been heavily involved with this article and we thank him for his efforts! It's a great addition to our FA family! In addition to Chat Moss, Altrincham (nom) is a current featured article candidate, whilst Trafford is a recent good article candidate.

Simillarly, the Portal:North West England is now officially a featured portal. User:Rudget has been overwhelmingly involved with this portal and he too is hereby thanked on behalf of the project for his continued contributions to this page and many others.

Following a title change this month (from city-wide to county-wide per this discussion) Grade I listed buildings in Greater Manchester has been one of the project's successes, albeit unofficially, with good collaboration and rapid rates of development. It is hoped by several users that this become a featured list in the short term. If you think you can help with images, information or just filling in the dead links, please feel free to join in! Simillar articles to undergo large transformation are List of churches in Greater Manchester, Kersal Moor and List of railway stations in Manchester, all of which are now in good shape.
Current Debates
There have been a number of debates this month, some of which with a high level of potential impact for the project and its members.

Article assessment for the project became a point of contention when around 1400 articles were tagged by a bot. Most of these artcles were on "minor" association football players. The consensus was that in our state of around 30 participants and as a predominatly geography based project, most of these articles should be untagged, at very least for the time being. Of our 1403 articles now tagged however, only (?) 85% are assessed - a drop of 15%!

Other debates have included the notability and verifiability of Commonwealth Black Pudding Throwing Championships and its mention on the Ramsbottom article. Whilst on Shaw and Crompton, one of our featured articles, questions have been raised as to what constitutes a "town". If you have any veiws on these matters, please feel free to share them at the project talk page.

Perhaps one of the most notable debates this month was the possibility of... scrapping the project newsletter! User:Rudget has written the last three editions (that's all of them!) and has decided that he'd like to pass on the responsibility. It has been proposed that a noticeboard system be introduced to highlight new issues in a near(!)-realtime fashion. I User:Jza84 am writing what could now be the last GM newsletter for a while. If you're a member of the team, but aren't closely involved with the project, then we'd love to hear from you at WT:GM with your views on which system of communication is the right way forwards (if any/both!).
Monthly Challenges
As was stated in last months newsletter, the Greater Manchester remains a key article for the project, and one which has been identified as urgent in our quest for Featured articleFeatured Article status. Sadly, for all our other successes, Greater Manchester has changed little since this time last year] (!) and is still an article requiring expansion and development. The new WP:UKCOUNTIES guide may provide new ways in which to channel our efforts. Although we endevour to have good article status even for our suburbs and hamlets, other articles specifically identified as needing development towards FA include Salford, Stretford and Altrincham.

Many of our most crucial articles about our largest towns are still in poor condition: Rochdale, Bury, Prestwich, Bolton, and Wigan are of "start class" standard - much lower than we should have. If you feel you can help, please be bold and try to improve these.

One final challenge for this month is for all those with new digial cameras for Christmas, or even digial images stored away on a disc!... many of our place articles are still without a single photograph, and www.geograph.org.uk is running low on quality images. Even those with photographs often have a low quality photograph of the local church. MORE ARE NEEDED! Especially townscapes! If you think you can help, a barnstar is up for grabs for best picture added in the next month or so!


We're always looking for potential new project members and ways for greater communication, collaboration and participation. WP:GM has a strong core of users, but would like to have more input from a wider user-base. If you can think of ways to improve our ways of working, please feel free to mention them at WT:GM. Simillarly, if you notice a new or unapproached user who is producing sound work related to Greater Manchester and its consituent parts, please don't forget to ask them if they'd like to join us, either in your own hand, or by adding {{Welcome WPGM}} to their talk page.


Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome!


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Accused wrongly

Mr. Stephen: I have not made ANY edits to anything in Misplaced Pages, including the entry on Venezuela. You've got the wrong girl. I have also not saved any test edits. I go to Misplaced Pages only occasionally for information and research, but I NEVER edit anything. Just wanted to set the record straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.43.220 (talk) 19:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Edgar Wood Centre

Brilliant job on the Edgar Wood Centre. Almost a start class article right off the bat. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 00:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Response from Howrey

We appreciate your concerns; however, our updated Misplaced Pages entry was designed to match other the entries of law firms listed on Misplaced Pages.

If you can indicate the areas of the entry that you felt did not comply with Misplaced Pages's policies, please let us know.

You can reach me at SchneiderD@howrey.com.

Regards, Drew Schneider Manager, Interactive Communications

Howrey LLP —Preceding unsigned comment added by HowreyBDM (talkcontribs) 16:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

excuse me but the info for nithin actor is incorrect but when i try to correct it u will not allow me so please fix it or ask me to fix it sorry for any inconvience thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katie321123 (talkcontribs) 23:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

St Thomas' Church, Stockport

I took a look at the article you started on St Thomas' Church, Stockport and was wondering if there was a construction date available? I think the date taken from Images of England for the Grade I listed buildings in Greater Manchester article is wrong and the page is pretty garbled anyway, so if you could provide a new date with an accurate source hat would be great. Thanks. Nev1 (talk) 00:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Pages Protection

Hello.

You recently removed the protection from http://en.wikipedia.org/Zwick_Roell_Group ... please could you advise the best way to protect this page from the non registered user who keeps adding porn links and changing the text. It appears that this person has some personal vendetta against the company —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tombarnes101 (talkcontribs) 20:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Please vote!

Hi! Please join us here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Lianga13#Bingo.21

Thank so much!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Greater Manchester

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded for your efforts in helping Greater Manchester to achieve good article status. A great collaborative effort from some of the members of the Greater Manchester WikiProject. Joshii 15:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

March Newsletter, Issue V

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Issue V - March 2008

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Project News
  • Since the January newsletter there has been an increase of 5 featured articles/lists, taking our total number of featured entries upto 16 17 (Trafford passed today!).
  • Although WP:GM leads the way in terms of featured content by a local British project, the Kent and Yorkshire WikiProjects are close to this total, with 11 and 14 featured entries respectively.
  • There has otherwise been a reduction in WP:GM nominations for GA status, something which the project has begun to discuss on the talk page.
  • Having completed all but one of our short term aims set last December, the project would like to look at developing new short term aims. Suggestions have been made here, but there is scope for flexibility. Do you have a entry you would like to see developed?
Member News

There are now 39 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester! Welcome to the 8 new members that joined since our last newsletter:

Two members have left the project however, each for rather different reasons:

  • Archtransit (talk · contribs) was an administrator, and project member, who was found to have been abusing his editting and sysop privliges. Following investigation, Archtransit was banned indefinately. A report in The Signpost is found here.
  • Rudget (talk · contribs), also an administrator, decided to leave the project. Reasons mentioned included the demands of admin duties taking over too much time. Rudget helped towards Didsbury's GA promotion, and Portal:North West England's FP promotion.
Thanks

This WikiProject, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

Roll Call!!!
  • Are YOU still around?

WP:GM is a great project, and is leading the way for local WikiProjects of the UK. However, though the project talk page is a hub of activity, it is regularly used by only a core of 5-6 editors, which isn't making the most of its potential. Indeed, a study, by the University of Minnesota found that "One-tenth of 1 percent of editors account for nearly half of Misplaced Pages's content value". We at WP:GM do not want to follow suit!

There are several editors who have, sadly, not editted since the turn of 2008, and others, which concentrate in areas other than Greater Manchester material (which is quite fine!).

The WikiProject Greater Manchester would like to know if YOU are still around, and if so, if you've like to be more involved, and, if not, why not and what can we do to get you involved and be a bigger part of the team?

Feel free to come by the project talk page and leave us a message on what you're working on and/or what you'd like to see improved. The project is only as strong as its members and we'd like to know if you're still active or if we can help you with your editting.

Images
  • A picture's worth a thousand words

In our last issue, a plea was made for more images to be submitted to Misplaced Pages/WikiCommons to improve the quality and context of our articles. Many of our Top priority articles are still lacking in quality images, if any!

www.geograph.org.uk is an online resource of photographs of places in the UK, which we can use. Www.flickr.com also has some images we are permitted to use. Do you have a digital camera however? Can you take photographs of townscapes and landmarks in your local area that can be used here? Middleton, Hulme and Rochdale all have examples of images in their lead that help give a sense of place and improve the context to our readers.

Simillarly, many of our most crucial articles about our largest towns are still in poor condition: Stockport, Bury, Prestwich, Bolton, and Wigan are of "start class" standard with short lead sections and unreferenced sections - a much lower standard than we should allow! If you feel you can help, please be bold and try to improve these. There is a list of resources that can help.


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petar rajenovic

this article was a legitimate biography and also backs up the page on Armin Meiwes and explains further reasons for his imprisonment. i would be very grateful if you could put the page back on wikipedia. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petarraj (talkcontribs) 15:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

No relevant google or newspaper hits. Almost certainly a hoax. Mr Stephen (talk) 15:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

For welcoming me back. I probably wouldn't have bothered coming back if nobody had bothered with the Greater Manchester peer review. I do hate trolls, they wind me up and make me do silly things! Joshii 18:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Award!

The WikiProject Greater Manchester Award of Merit
For creating the North Tower (Salford) article and thereby aid the List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford entry to FL status! Many, many thanks! --Jza84 |  Talk  23:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I'll second that; a very impressive effort that produced quite a nice little article in no time at all. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 23:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
What an evening - an award, then seconded, then the list gets promoted! Thanks, both of you. Mr Stephen (talk) 12:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Mediation for Scotland article

As an agreement between editors at Scotland seems ever more unlikely, some users have decided to contact mediation. However, mediation require the acceptance of all involved parties. Would you be willing to accept? Thanks for your compliance...--Cameron (t|p|c) 18:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


01 Census

Drachenfyre. I am posting here to avoid cluttering up an already cluttered page. I am well aware that different parts of the UK got different forms. The one I linked to (2001_Scotland_Household.pdf) is the Scottish one, and it doesn't have a box for nationality. It does have a box for ethicity. The BBC report you linked to does talk about nationality, bizzarrely, but an earlier BBC report here does not. The figures (27% of people in Scotland call themselves British) come from the General Household Survey, not the census. Where have you got the 73% number from? Regards, Mr Stephen (talk) 15:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Mr Stephen. When I first searched for information on Welsh/Scottish nationality it was via the BBC and the controversies surrounding the inclusion of a Welsh tickbox. I see your point regarding the BBC's useage of ethnicity and nationality interchangeably. This is continued by an artical the UK Office of National Statistics.... which has an artical entitled: Living in Britain; National Identity: Would you describe yourself as British? The artical stated:

The artical liny: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=278&Pos=1&ColRank=2&Rank=480 The ONS linky main page: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/default.asp

People living in England are more likely to describe themselves as British (48 per cent) than those in Scotland (27 per cent) or Wales (35 per cent), according to Living in Britain, the report of the 2001 General Household Survey.

From this, it was a deduction of subtracting 27% from 100% to determine the remaining of Scotland's population identifying as Scottish.

Given that these are statistics given by the UK ONS I would image that they are reliable sources, the use by both the ONS and the BBC of nationality and ethnicity notwithstanding. Your thoughts?♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 15:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I found another source (and I probably heard this from somewhere because of my earlier statement that it was over "85% Scottish nationality") The source is the Scottish Government website, specifically http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/06/22110457/05107

It states 88.09% identify as of Scottish 'ethnicity', while less then 8% identify as of white-British 'ethnicity.'♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 15:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


Reply Re: Wigan / Pemberton

Hi there. Yes, I have seen that on the 'vision of Britain' site. However, I have never seen a copy of the order or a description of the order ie: who the 'order' was authorised by, purpose of the order etc. I would guess at it being a local government issue for an administrative purpose. Colin80.193.161.89 (talk) 00:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: camera

True; my camera is a bit big to lug around normally, but if I manage to use it right it should be capable of taking really nice pictures... :) With the 18th century slum house, are you meaning looking south from the bridge at ? Presumably it's the building on the east side of the river, with a newer building to the north, and a building site to the south? Mike Peel (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I called around there yesterday evening; unfortunately the light wasn't the best, as the building faces East, so I may go back there and get some better photos at some point. The ones I took last night are displayed at commons:User:Mike Peel/Manchester#Old building on Princess Street. Mike Peel (talk) 11:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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Project News
  • Peterloo Massacre was nominated for FAC on 6 April. So far it has received support for FAS but feel free join the discussion here.
  • WP:GM still is still the leading local British WikiProject. As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 6 on London and Yorkshire who have 15 FAs each. Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still lacking GAs and falls behind London by 6. This topic was at the front of the new aims discussion (here) and is an important issue for WP:GM.
  • As mentioned above, new aims have been decided. See the right hand column for more details.
Member News

There are now 44 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester! A warm welcome to the 5 new members that have joined us since March:

No users left the WikiProject this month. Hooray!

Thanks

A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.


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New Aims

The completion of all but one of the short term aims set last December resulted in a discussion on WT:GM to set new aims for the WikiProject. They are:

It took us four months to get our last aims completed, why not try and see if these can be done in less time than before! All input is welcome but if anyone has any books or photos etc specifically related to these topics, they would be extra-specially welcome.

But before rushing ahead with these new aims, let's not forget the one that got away last time: to obtain B -> GA status for Rochdale, Wigan, Bury, Bolton and Stockport. Most of these articles are in poor condition and in need of repair. Good quality images are urgently needed also. Let's make sure that this aim doesn't stay off our radar much longer.

Don't Forget...
  • Images!
    The shortage of good images was mentioned in the last issue and still hasn't been resolved! A good place to start would be the requested photographs category but please remember that there are many articles not within this category that have the same need in common.
  • Assessment
    "Assess and review all relevant articles for quality, importance and progress" is one of our mid-term aims. At the present moment, there are only 43 unassessed articles. This task could be completed well before the next newsletter is out.
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your a bummer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveyjones81 (talkcontribs) 18:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Pictures

Sure; I'll try to call around there sometime soon. In the meantime, Pit-yacker's uploaded one of his photos of the building, see Image:Manchester Opera House.jpg; maybe that could be used instead for a while? Mike Peel (talk) 08:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Photos are at commons:Category:Manchester Opera House. Mike Peel (talk) 21:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi

I am afraid I have not edited any pages or deleted blank pages - someone is using my IP to frame me - I know this for sure (because there is a personal war between me and this person) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.114.244 (talk) 20:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Your contributions are here. Mr Stephen (talk) 21:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter
Issue VII - May 2008

April issue
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Project News
  • The Peterloo Massacre article was promoted to FA on 12 April. One of our top priority articles, it had previously been only start class. The process began on 25th March and since then underwent over 700 edits before the end of April, with Jza84, Malleus Fatuarum, and Richerman making significant contributions to the rapid development of the article. Ddstretch and Mr Stephen also contributed to discussions on the article talk page.
  • Perhaps the most unusual event of April 2008 for the project has surrounded the Denshaw article. Denshaw is a village of about 500 people in Saddleworth, Oldham, which attracted media attention due to vandalism of the stub class article. Once this was brought to the project's attention, efforts were made to improve the article which led to a successful DYK? nomination and might even advance it to GA status with a bit more effort. In April there were over 19,000 visitors who saw the project in action. Contributors included Jza84, Ddstretch, Malleus Fatuarum, Hassocks5489, Nev1 and Mike Peel.
  • Also this month 5 articles featured on the DYK? section of the front page: Hulme Arch Bridge, Peterloo Massacre, Bolton and Leigh Railway, Barnes Hospital, Denshaw, and Platt Fields Park. This certainly puts into perspective one of the project's previous mid-term aims "feature on the Did you know? section with at least three articles related to Greater Manchester". If you've expanded an article 5 fold or started one with at least 1.5kb of prose in the past 5 days and it has an interesting and referenced fact don't hesitate to read the conditions of DYK? and nominate it here. It gets the project noticed!
  • WikiProject Greater Manchester is still leading local British WikiProjects. As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 7 on London and Yorkshire who have 15 Featured Articles each. Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still lacking GAs and falls behind London by 6 (we have 14, London 20). If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC!


Member News

There are 45 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester. One new member has joined the project this month:

  • Kieran5676 on 30th April and is interested in south Manchester.


The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}.

Thanks

A rather large "thank you" goes out to all the editors who edited article related to Greater Manchester, or who edit the project itself.



It's no joke.

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Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome!


New Aims

Last month the project set new and ambitious aims for itself:

It took us four months to get our last aims completed, why not try and see if these can be done in less time than before! All input is welcome but if anyone has any books or photos etc specifically related to these topics, they would be extra-specially welcome.

Most of the articles covered by our new aims haven't experienced much activity in the past month, if you thing you can help improve an article be bold and get editing. Articles such as List of people from Bolton and List of railway stations in Greater Manchester already appear very close to FL status and may just require an editor to guide them through the FLC process.

Our highest priority article is of course Greater Manchester, there is a peer review from March with issues still to be addressed before it can be put forward as a featured article candidate. Salford is another top priority article because it's the county's second city; it's under gone a lot of editing but still has a way to go before it reaches GA. Also active this month has been the City of Salford article – part of our aim to get 1/3 of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs to GA &ndash.

Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable.

Reminders...
  • Images!
    The rate of good images has gone up since it was mentioned in the last issue, but more images are needed! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images.
  • Assessment
    When this section was written, there was only 1 unassessed article! This task has probably already been finished, but it might now have. To check click here.
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Glenorchy

Firstly I had not read the rules regarding this web sit

I would like to know why one company is allow to advertise on the Glenorchy site though, Glenorchy Air is a small private company and it has it's links on this page of this site it is making money through this site why not others who serve this township?

Cheers GYNZ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gynz (talkcontribs) 12:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello! Many thanks for reversing the vandalism on the Wiki page of Andrea Ross. You are a true Internet hero!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wnross (talkcontribs) 14:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Mr Stephen! I'd like to leave a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully today (and to my surprise) with 83 supports, 4 opposes, and 2 neutral. What I have taken back from my RFA is that I've perhaps been too robust in debate and I will endevour to improve upon that aspect of my usership. I would like to thank you again and state here that I will not let any of my fellow Wikipedian's down. Thanks again! --Jza84 |  Talk  11:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

SBD

i was redirecting SBD tothe airport San Bernardino Int'l Airport but i was making the dimalished or something like that page so it would help like in LAX write back plz Salcan (talk) 23:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Sbd EDiTS 2

SO should i redo my edits to sbd and write a little summery? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salcan (talkcontribs) 23:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Church Eaton

Hi, hope you can help. I created this new page BUT eaton is in lower case...how do I now change it to Eaton in the wiki title? I can't seem to do it. Please either do it for me or let me know how, many thanks, cheers Peter morrell 07:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow! thanks it worked and I learned something new! cheers :) Peter morrell 08:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Simon Binks

To Whom It May Concern,

I am Simon Binks, born in Mordialloc Hospital, Melbounre, Victoria, Australia on November 27, 1956.

A lot of what you have on on your Website concerning Australian Crawl and on me is incorrect. I have attempted to correct it but this does not seem to have been successful. I am not even sure if this is the appropriate contact or method to address this. If not and you know what is, I would appreciate that advise. Truth is important to me.

You can trust a journalist, a random blogger, or one who lived through it.

I went to school with most of the members of Australian Crawl, was in the same year as James Reyne and Brad Robinson.

James and I started Australian Crawl after we left Spiff Rouch and I had taken time out for my first overseas trip to Bali, Penang and Singapore, where I later lived for three years and met my, as of yesterday, ex wife.

James, Brad and I were the best of friends. Brad and I were inseparable, until his death from cancer in August 1996; almost exactly one year after my accident. I was Best Man at Brad's wedding, he flew to Singapore for mine. I did not ask him to be my Best Man as I didn't want to burden him with a a trip he may have not been able to make at that time.

I have been screwed royally by this accident but more by recalcitrant solicitors and a council in damage control.

It is true that I received severe brain damage. I am also told that I am the only person to have made such a comprehensive recovery. I did this by not listening to doctors.

It is important that my miraculous recovery not be made public, as anyone who has gone through brain injury is asking the same questions: Am I alright? Am I the same? This is anosognosia, the inability to self-reference, and I don't want to announce that I am the only person officially cleared of it. Countless other victims would be left crestfallen.

It is not true that I was .133 at the time of the accident. I had only had two drinks all night.

Even the constable (Constable Dunn) who had been with me that night and was ordered to charge me with DUI, was really uncomfortable, told me that he had been with me holding my head when I died, that I did not even smell of alcohol and was lucid and coherent until I stopped breathing. In his "expert opinion" I was not affected by alcohol. He told me awkwardly that he had been "Ordered to charge me", though he was clearly unhappy. He then left the police force but showed up at my trial 5 days in a row 12 years later.

I told my solicitors. They ignored me. He motioned me from the tiers, I couldn't get to him.

The PCA sheet from the hospital didn't even have my name on it.

At the former DUI trial, a conviction was not even recorded.

Constable Dun gave me the entire photographic record of the accident. It was when I saw how dangerous the roadworks were, how negligent the signage, or lack thereof; that I decided that I had a responsibility to hold the council accountable.

My spirit is very strong. I was lucky to survive. Another may not have been so.

The photographs showed evidence of countless cars that had come unstuck due to a huge hole in the road; an intended roundabout. There were skid marks of many different cars made evident by different profile skid marks.

Two cars hit an adjacent wall. I was unlucky to hit the lamp post.

I was earning roughly $250,000 pa before the accident. I had just returned from six months in Jakarta where I had earned US $120,000. That was 1994/5 when the US dollar was worth something.

So far I have only received $50,000 from my court farce. That's all gone on debts. I only expect to see the same amount again: less than one year's work intended to last me for the rest of my life. In was 38 when I had the accident. I owe more than that in debts that have arisen from the accident.

I only took the council to court out of a sense of moral responsibility, but that was lost in the erroneous DUI game. Convenient for the council. I remember saying at the time that I would be happy if I had my car replaced. I thought I would be back at work in no time.

That was 13 years ago.

The truth will be made public, when I am ready. The music I am writing, playing, singing now is my seal of approval and it all has to be handled correctly by a Publicist. I am still not happy the book I have written and the recordings are still demos.

Anything I place of your Website concerning me are facts. Cold, hard, irrefutable facts.

Sue me if you can prove them incorrect.

I can supply you with facts. I am very well-read, have dined with world leaders, lived in five countries and been to many more. I have fought the Yakuza in Japan, fed the hungry in India.

That not being enough in Bombay, surrounded by so much suffering and feeling at a loss as to what to do, I filled my spare diving wallet with cash and hurled it from my expensive top floor Indian hotel room. How could I choose who to help. Who not to. I left it to fate/chaos.

My goal in life is truth. I have written a book with my take on it, after conversations with some of the most respected authorities in their fields; Dr Barbara Thiering on theology, Professor Lawrence Peak, the only Australian on the Large Hardon Collider experiments at Cern, on quantum physics, etc, etc.

I make sure I know what I am talking about before I commit an opinion.

My life was a precious gift from two extraordinary people. I will not have my best efforts to live up to my parent's standards slurred.

Below is my email and phone, though just having separated from my wife, I will not be here long. I will include an email address that will survive the move, wherever life takes me next.

Simon Binks 144.131.169.131 (talk) 14:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC) +61-3-97753054 sjbinks@bigpond.net.au simonjbinks2@yahoo.com 144.131.169.131 (talk) 14:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Simon. I assume you are talking about the Simon Binks article. I suggest you start by reading Dealing_with_articles_about_yourself, which will point you to the biographical articles help page. There is a lot of advice there. Mr Stephen (talk) 17:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Please. I have lived in Oakamoor all my life. I was the one who created the Oakamoor page on Misplaced Pages. Please do not alter it anymore. I am changing it back to the way it was. And I will continue to do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ertert12345 (talkcontribs)

Again, I will assume and submit whatever I feel like. You are not God. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ertert12345 (talkcontribs) 13:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

By continually editing the Oakamoor article and deleting facts that are TRUE, it is YOU who is vandalizing the Oakamoor wikipedia entry and claming ownership. EVERYTHING that I have put in the entry was true, and if it was not due to misinformation from my various sources, it was edited accordingly. As you may now wikipedia is a public ownership encyclopedia, therefore it is up to its users to ensure information is true. I am doing this duty and ensuring that the Oakamoor entry is accurate and consistent with reality. If you do not stop this behavior I will recommend that your IP address is banned from wikipedia permanently. I am quite frankly ashamed that someone would want to defame the small village of Oakamoor and I think I speak for everyone when I say that you have no right to act in such a manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ertert12345 (talkcontribs) 12:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

As you can see, I have altered the Oakamoor page. Now it has the official description provided by the the AboutBritain website who maintain a site about Oakamoor. It has a verifiable link. If you remove or change this page, I will treat the matter as vandalism. This is your last warning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ertert12345 (talkcontribs) 12:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)