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Thank goodness. Thanks for your close and I hope it will strengthen the precedent. People arguing that there was notability, in the face of the complete lack of notability made it seem to me that the Keeps were more in disagreement with the principle of the thing than looking at the actual sources etc. Plenty of people do silly things in their youth but some people might not have experienced/realised that. ] ] 00:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Thank goodness. Thanks for your close and I hope it will strengthen the precedent. People arguing that there was notability, in the face of the complete lack of notability made it seem to me that the Keeps were more in disagreement with the principle of the thing than looking at the actual sources etc. Plenty of people do silly things in their youth but some people might not have experienced/realised that. ] ] 00:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Request for arbitration ==

I have opened a case at the Arbitration Committee regarding your close of the Ginger Jolie debate, noting both procedural and substantive errors, and focusing on the substitution of individual opinion for consensus community determination. ] (]) 01:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

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RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed with 30 in support, 28 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks again for the support!

Florentino Floro

Hi, thanks for finally writing a conclusion to the RfC. Is there another step to take should he fail to take your advice? I realize that this might seem petty because it's only been a few hours since you closed the issue, but I think I need to ask this because he clearly didn't listen. Immediately following your warning not to write excessively long rants, he wrote one of his longest yet--in fact, it's a very long tirade about his right to have an excessively large userpage.

I'm not asking for any actual action now, as the RfC's only just finished, but I'd like to know how much of this blatant disregard of advice we're expected to take before taking him to task with the administration again. --Migs (talk) 13:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

a separate question...on the same subject

Hi Wizardman. I'm sorry to bring you back to this same subject again. I was obviously very involved in the Florentino Floro RFC, and in your conclusion you recommended that I try to avoid direct contact with floro. I'm trying to understand what that means, both practically and about how I've behaved. I do certainly have strong opinions on his behavior, but I have tried very hard to conduct myself well and civilly throughout this process. I have paid a lot of attention to floro over the last year, but I only do it to help wikipedia. I have always tried to give him constructive advice. I have seen too many editors turn a blind eye to his rampant bad editing, in effect enabling and encouraging behavior that is detrimental to the encyclopedia. I believe that somebody needs to pay attention, and nobody else was taking on that role. If you feel that I crossed a line, if any of my actions were inappropriate or if I behaved badly, I would sincerely like to know. regards, maxsch (talk) 18:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I appreciate the clarification. maxsch (talk) 01:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Florentino floro/Learned Treatise:Legal-Academic Values of Compleat User Page

Thanks again for you many times spent on our RFC. I created this User Subpage not just to submit refuting or contrary evidence to accusations against my User page, but: to present the problem in Philippines, here, regarding junking of Misplaced Pages by university professors, due to the Disclaimer. Now, I presented sources on USA, UK and Philippine laws on evidence - Learned treatise which require, us, article creators on history, art and science, to show proof of our expertise. Thus, I made a terse User Page with each lines supported by reliable sources accepted by the legal and academic community. As you ruled, let us move on, and not only that, I would add, let our articles created be made and accepted due to its reliability, and the Completeness of our User Pages. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 11:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Wizardman, is this RFC/U on your watchlist? There have been recent updates; it appears the situation is far from resolved. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

October Baseball WP Newsletter

The Baseball WikiProject Newsletter
Issue III – October 2008
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving a baby's life...
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Little award

The Excellent Userpage Award
I love your userpage design, and therefore think this is a more appropriate way of showing recognition for your efforts, than a mere message. Don't muck up now! Blooded Edge /Talk 18:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Missalina Rei

Thanks for the reply. I'm not going to waste any more time on it--this isn't the first attempt to delete it. However, I did want to make the point that Cyrus XIII is setting primary source requirements that seem unreasonable, given the subject matter. Luckily someone came forward who could reference every sentence in the Aliene Ma'riage article, but I don't have access to Japanese underground culture magazines myself. All I can provide on Missalina Rei is a stub from secondary references published in English. Pkeets (talk) 02:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

RfC closure

Oh dear. --Dweller (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The thread is now at my talk. I've flagged it up to Ncmvocalist too. --Dweller (talk) 08:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

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United States congressional apportionment

There's what looks to be the start of an edit war over this article and an anonymous editor's original research. Your guidance would be greatly appreciated. United States congressional apportionment. Thanks. Foofighter20x (talk) 04:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Curtis Woodhouse

Hey, thanks for taking the time and trouble to review and then pass Curtis Woodhouse for GA. You mentioned you'd like to see the two redlinked boxing stadiums turn blue. The Metrodome Leisure Centre already had an article at Barnsley Metrodome, which I've now linked. The Sheffield United Academy is the facility where Sheffield United F.C. youth players train, isn't mentioned explicitly either in the SUFC article or in Sport in Sheffield, and according to BoxRec, the card on which Woodhouse fought is the only boxing event they've hosted. Do you have a view on whether it would be sensible to link it to Sheff Utd FC, or to delink it? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

King's School, Ely

Looks like you can fail this; nommer hasn't edited since September and no editing has taken place. Wizardman 14:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I was going to do that, and then edit it myself and resubmit for someone else to review. Then I noticed in the guidelines as I was about to Fail it this advice: "If the problem is easy to resolve, it might be better to be bold and fix it yourself." And I thought I would do that. I have, however, been held up by heavy work and social commitments over the past couple of weeks. If I can't get to the article in the next couple of days I will fail it and work on it later as per my original intention. Regards SilkTork * 14:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, Wizardman. Glad to be back. Justin(u) 16:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Spot me a clue pls

It occurred to me that I've pontificated in a bazillion RfAs, but I've never actually nominated anyone. But you're a repeat offender when it comes into luring suckers into RfAfinding volunteers. Is there anything not-so-obvious I need to know? I'm thinking of nominating editors who probably won't be hyperactive admins, just dabblers. Apart from making sure they answer "optional" question one clearly, does that matter? Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: To be blunt

Nah, I don't think I'll be going back there for a while. I just had this same discussion yesterday; basically, I don't think I am ready. I've been doing a fair amount of RPP, AIV, and CSD, but I'd like to get a few more Featured Articles at the very least before going back there. And Misplaced Pages already has enough administrators as it is. Gary King (talk) 00:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Your nine thousand featured lists should suffice. :-) In any event, I'm going to respond to your comment with a big ol' Template:O rly and leave it at that... –Juliancolton 16:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Bank Street (stadium) GA review

Hi there, I notice you've had Bank Street (stadium) tagged as under review for a couple of days now, and I wondered how the review was going. Any chance of a progress report? Cheers. – PeeJay 11:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

No worries, dude. I appreciate you reviewing it at all. – PeeJay 14:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Hello Wizardman. Thank you very much for your support in my recent Request for Adminship, which was successful with 111 supports, 0 opposes, and 0 neutral. I have to say I am more than a little overwhelmed by this result and I greatly appreciate your trust in me. I will do my best to use the tools wisely. Thanks again. Regards. Thingg 01:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA time

I have (of course) accepted your nomination, answered the questions, and transcluded the page. Let the "fun" begin. *deep breath* JPG-GR (talk) 04:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

And, now thanks again for the nomination as it was successful! :) JPG-GR (talk) 05:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

1993 Independence Bowl GA

Thanks for the review and the pass! JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Jackie Robinson GAN

I've put Jackie Robinson up if you still want to review it. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 17:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

TB

Hello, Wizardman. You have new messages at NuclearWarfare's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Disputing a deleted article "Goblins"

Hello, I am the creator of Goblins (the webcomic) and I feel that it meets the notability guildlines necessary to be an article on Wiki. Here is a quick list...

~ Received the respected "Most Outstanding New Webcartoonist" award from Dragoncon in 2006.

~ Is published (Goblins Book One) in paper form and is available in any gaming or hobby store throughout North America (distributed by Alliance Games, the largest game distributors in North America) and Europe (distributed by Esdevium Games, Europe's largest game distributor).

~ Goblins Book one includes a foreword by Monte Cook, one of the chief creators of Dungeons and Dragons, 3rd Edition and writer of the D&D Player's handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide and Monster Manual.

~ Goblins Book Two is to launch in the near future.

~ The downloadable, PDF formats of Book One and Book Two have both been #1 bestsellers over at drivethrucomics.com, the largest online comic store in the world.

All of these facts can be proved, if necessary. I enjoy Misplaced Pages and I would like to continue being a part of it.

Thanks you for your time, ~Tarol Hunt whep@show.ca —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greythumb9 (talkcontribs) 22:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

^ 5!

You go, backlog eliminator! :D delldot ∇. 02:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Closing the ANI thread on Yannis

I want to congratulate you for the impeccable way you handled the closing of this painful thread at ANI and for your remarkably insightful closing comments. Your actions are deeply appreciated. Thank you. Tasos (Dr.K. (talk) 03:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC))

Happy Wizardman's Day!

User:Wizardman has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Wizardman's day!
For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian,
enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Wizardman!

Peace,
Rlevse
~

A record of your Day will always be kept here.

Re: Admin

Hi. I would be more than happy and honored if you nominate me. I followed some of your advice by participating more in janitorial stuff like closing xfDs. I keep reverting and reporting vandalisms, etc. If you have any other advice of how to improve my contribution to Misplaced Pages, I would be glad to read it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Early history of Turkmenistan

I'm curious as to how to attribute copypasted sources. Please inform me. ~one of many editorofthewikis ~ 20:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow!

Hi! I just wanted to say I like your user page! =) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

History of cricket to 1725

Hello again, Wizardman. Thanks very much indeed for doing a thorough and painstaking review of this article. It has been an enormous help to us and has enabled us to do a lot of necessary finetuning. It is now a far better article than it was before the review. All the best. BlackJack | 08:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Well done!

Thanks for closing Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Elonka. That took a lot of hard work, and I think you did a good job. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted article

Hey, I see that you participated in the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kosovo–Nauru relations discussion. The consensus there was to delete the article. Well I am sad to report that the article has been remade by the same user. See here: Kosovo‒Nauru relations. Can we speedy delete this article, or are we going to have to go through the longer deletion process again. And can we stop User:Turkish Flame from creating these dubious articles? --Tocino 19:25, 18 Ocotber 2008 (UTC)

A request

Wizardman, I wanted to let you know about a situation that's arisen with Lenticel, whom you conominated for adminship. (I'm posting this same message to Bibliomaniac, the other nominator.) If you have a moment, would you take a look at Talk:Chocolate Hills, and then at the note I left on Lenticel's talk page?

Lenticel hasn't responded in any way to my note, though he's edited since I left it. I prefer to try to resolve issues on Misplaced Pages through direct interaction with acquaintances, where possible, since that seems more personal and more likely to be friendly (and successful). If you agree with me that Lenticel should consider saying something conciliatory to Malleus, would you post something to that effect on Lenticel's talk page? I've never interacted with him, and he may consider me a busybody; he knows you and might pay more heed to a note from you.

If you don't think any response from Lenticel is warranted, that's fine, though I'd be interested to get your take on it. Malleus hasn't retired, but he's stated he'll be pulling back from volunteer work as a result of this incident (which he indicated was just the last straw, rather than the entire reason for his disillusionment). Malleus is a top-flight editor, and I'd like to give him hope that problems can be successfully resolved in a friendly way here on Misplaced Pages.

Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 15:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much -- that's exactly what I was hoping for. Let's hope it works out well. Mike Christie (talk) 16:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Naomi Westerman

Would this fall under G10, as the person in the article has requested deletion in light of WP:BLP and WP:STALKing (see diff)? If so, this should be deleted poste haste. I didn't want to tag it for G10 myself because I'm not exactly sure this falls under the criterion.

P.S. Thank you for the closure on the RFC/U. I agree with the conclusion. MuZemike (talk) 17:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Afd: Ginger Jolie

Thanks for taking the time to explain your rationale for the way you closed the AfD. A question, however, if I may:

The implication of your decision appears to be that there is a class of people - borderline notable, as it were - for whom a flattering article, or one which brushes over unsavoury details of their past, will now be allowed to stand, but who will be able to request removal of any article which does not meet with the subject's approval. I think that may be a dangerous prec3edent, especially in a case where the person is not making a wholesale life change. (Someone who's now a known charity worker, but who once shoplifted, bah, who cares. But, say, a professional sportsman who was once suspended in school/college for dubious sporting practices, even in a different sport - hard to see why that isn't valid). Just thoughts. (Incidentally, Ginger Jolie's name still appears, albeit redlinked I guess, in the List of Penthouse Pets. I hope we aren't going to excise that reference too.) MadScot (talk) 00:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Wizardman, for a thoughtful and well-reasoned close. I would be thanking you for a rationle of that quality whether or not you concluded to delete: it was a difficult undertaking you took on, and you did it with grace and respect. Kudos. And as a comment to MadScot, when I first formulated my own standards more than a year ago those were concerns that came to mind. I've done my best do establish a fair and equal threshhold, and contact with several article subjects has shed a perspective on the matter. Rand Fishkin expressed it best--and although there was nothing particularly negative in his biography, he realized that at any time something inappropriate might be added. In particular he was concerned that business competitors might vandalize the biography strategically while he was seeking new contracts. Hope that sheds a better light on things. Regards, Durova 00:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Ginger J

Thank goodness. Thanks for your close and I hope it will strengthen the precedent. People arguing that there was notability, in the face of the complete lack of notability made it seem to me that the Keeps were more in disagreement with the principle of the thing than looking at the actual sources etc. Plenty of people do silly things in their youth but some people might not have experienced/realised that. Sticky Parkin 00:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Request for arbitration

I have opened a case at the Arbitration Committee regarding your close of the Ginger Jolie debate, noting both procedural and substantive errors, and focusing on the substitution of individual opinion for consensus community determination. The Enchantress Of Florence (talk) 01:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)