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== AfD behaviour ==

In the last two days I see you've been using the old "X hits on this page in X days indicates notability" and "this Google Books reference establishes notability despite its triviality" tropes. Please stop doing this, accept that certain arguments are disruptive and ineffective and refrain from using them again.

If you're going to continue disrupting AfDs with specious and long-discredited arguments (including making personal attacks - I saw that you labelled Doctorfluffy's AfD nom of the McGyver list as "disruptive and pointy"), I see no reason for those editors who have cut you a great deal of slack since your return to continue to assume that you are acting in good faith. To an extent you appear thus far to have managed to distance yourself from your old persona -it would be good to continue that. ] - ] 15:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

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A Nobody is busy in real life and may not respond swiftly to queries.

Welcome to my talk page! Please be sure to make all posts civil and constructive, as I will ignore or revert anything I deem to be bad faith, dishonest, or vandalism. Also, let us try to keep two-way conversations readable. If you post to my talk page, I will just reply here. If I posted recently to another talk page, including your talk page, then that means I have it on my watchlist and will just read responses there. I may refactor discussions to your talk page for the same reason. Also, please do not refer to me here or elsewhere by my previous username as I changed names due to real-world off-wiki harassment that remains a concern. Due to the issues that caused my name change and other matters I may be slow in responding to messages and I may even stop editing for long stretches of time. Sincerely, --A Nobody 18:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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I am not sure what was on the previous version of the article, but the following out of universe information can be added from "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62: the character is voiced by David Kaye. PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him." Thus, I encourage someone to restore the article and add this information in a manner such as this:

Nathan Hale is the protagonist of the Playstation 3 games Resistance: Fall of Man and its sequel Resistance 2. He is voiced by David Kaye.

Development

Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him."

Biography

Hale killed practically every chimera in England and then went to America to win again.

Reception

PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Playstation Universe lists Hale among the top five Playstation 3 characters thus far.

References

  1. "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
  2. "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
  3. "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
  4. Dave Wales, "Top five PlayStation 3 characters thus far," Playstation Universe (March 16th, 2008): http://www.psu.com/Top-five-PlayStation-3-characters-thus-far--a0003095-p0.php

Restoration

Extended content

Nathaniel is a character in Jonathan Stroud's Bartimaeus Trilogy. Nathaniel is one of the main characters of this series. After coming of age as a magician when he was 12 years old, he was granted the new name of John Mandrake, and is known by this name to everyone but the title character, Bartimaeus and in the later part of Ptolemy's Gate to Kitty.

Attributes

Appearance

In The Amulet of Samarkand he is described as being small and scrawny with dark hair. His hair, as he increases in rank, becomes increasingly long, but during the gap between The Golem's Eye and Ptolemy's Gate he has opted for a crew cut in (politically advantageous) tribute to the soldiers fighting in America. He is further described as attractive, with "the scent of power around him" and of medium height and slender build, his forehead prematurely lined (Ptolemy's Gate, U.S. Edition, pg. 21).

Personality

Nathaniel is, at first, a small, shy boy uncomfortable with anyone who is not Mrs. Underwood or Ms. Lutyens. He is very nervous and scared by Bartimaeus when he first summons the demon. As the books progress, and he becomes more and more proficient, he also becomes more confident, and possibly overconfident. He works fervently when motivated, as is shown when he furthers his education with incredible speed in The Amulet of Samarkand. Throughout the books he also shows signs of ambition to rise through the ranks of the government, a common goal among magicians. Bartimaeus compares him more than once to Simon Lovelace, as they share a similar mindset, and habitual tics, such as stroking back their hair.

Role in books

The Amulet of Samarkand

In The Amulet of Samarkand, Nathaniel starts off as a young boy who, at the age of five, had been given up by his parents to apprenticeship under a mediocre Whitehall magician named Arthur Underwood, the assistant minister of Internal Affairs. Underwood begins teaching the boy in magic, but Nathaniel, being inquisitive, decides to advance his education to higher levels without the knowledge of his tutor.

However, at the age of eleven, in his master's house, Nathaniel is publicly humiliated by a greedy and ambitious young magician named Simon Lovelace. In a fit of juvenile fury, Nathaniel hatches a plan for vengeance. He sets several mites (a weak kind of imp) on Lovelace, but Lovelace is powerful and stops the mites, then proceeds to beat Nathaniel as punishment.

Later, after much research and preparation, Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus, a 5,000-year-old djinni, to exact his revenge on Lovelace. Mrs. Underwood - Nathaniel's master's wife - inadvertently reveals Nathaniel's true name to Bartimaeus. This vastly limits Nathaniel's control over the djinni, because spells can be cast on people when their true name is known (hence the practice of assigning names).

In the end, Nathaniel earns the respect of the majority of the other magicians including Rupert Devereaux, the Prime Minister. He is accepted as a magician in the government.

The Golem's Eye

Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus again, facing off against the Resistance and sinister magicians.

The second book picks up almost three years later and features Nathaniel as a junior magician working his way up the government ranks. He is described as one of the governments' rising young stars. In this book, Kitty Jones is introduced as an important character. She is a part of the Resistance movement, which seeks to end the oppressive rule of the magicians. Nathaniel is tasked by his superiors to crush the Resistance movement and capture the members. His task is complicated when a seemingly invulnerable clay golem starts to make random attacks on London. Much to the displeasure of Bartimaeus, Nathaniel recalls the djinni to aid him in uncovering the origins of the golem, and to save his own skin.

During the course of the book Nathaniel is almost fired from his post and executed for treason. By the end of the book however he has come back to favor when Duvall's conspiracy comes to light.

Ptolemy's Gate

In Ptolemy's Gate, Nathaniel has risen to the ruling Council and is arguably the most powerful magician in the government. He stands against a force of hybrid magicians with spirits trapped inside them, led by Nouda. Romantic feelings are hinted at in the book at various points between Kitty and himself. Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus into his body to help fight the Hybrids with Gladstone's staff, and destroys most of them, leaving only Nouda alive. However, during this fight, Nathaniel is seriously injured and he loses strength quickly, even with Bartimaeus' assistance. When Nathaniel and Bartimaeus confront Nouda, Nathaniel dismisses Bartimaeus which saves Baritmaeus just prior to the staff being destroyed killing both Nouda and Nathaniel. Bartimaeus returned to the Other Place, but is known to have survived; according to his "journal", he was summoned by a female magician with a stutter afterwards. Kitty, in the end, goes visit her old friend Jakob before she begins to travel around the world in a new life.

Trivia

  • Nathaniel's chosen magician name, John Mandrake, may be a reference to the popular comic strip and real life magician, Mandrake the Magician
  • Nathaniel's birthday is on November 26, as confirmed by the author.

External links

References

Here you go. MBisanz 13:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Would you be okay with my merging this content and then creating a redirect? Best, --A Nobody 16:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

A Nobody, thank you very much for participating in my Rfa, which was successful with 80 Support, 5 Oppose, 6 Neutral. The comments were overwhelming, and hopefully I can live up to the expectation of the community.

I would also like to thank my nominator Realist and my co-nom Orane (talk), and special mention to Acalamari and Lenticel for the kindness from the start. Regards, Efe

--Efe (talk) 07:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, congratulations, and good luck! Sincerely, --A Nobody 16:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you to all who participated in my RFA- regardless of whether you supported or opposed, all feedback is important to me. I look forward to proving in the coming months that the trust placed in me by the community is not misplaced. Mizu onna sango15
Thank you to all who participated in my RFA- regardless of whether you supported or opposed, all feedback is important to me. I look forward to proving in the coming months that the trust placed in me by the community is not misplaced. Mizu onna sango15
The Barnstar | My RFA | Design by L'Aquatique


The Mizu onna sango15 Barnstar
Thank you to all who participated in my RFA- regardless of whether you supported or opposed,

all feedback is important to me. I look forward to proving in the coming months that the trust placed in me by the community is not misplaced.
Mizu onna sango15


That is by far one of the most original and cool looking RfA thanks I have yet received! Anyway, congratulations and good luck!  :) Sincerely, --A Nobody 00:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Looks like I was proven wrong about you! Keep up the great work and I look forward to further edits from you. seicer | talk | contribs 01:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the nice message. All the best! Sincerely, --A Nobody 01:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Major depressive disorder FAC restarted

Note to all !voters on the original Major depressive disorder FAC: The FAC for that article has been restarted at Misplaced Pages:Featured_article_candidates/Major_depressive_disorder. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the note! Sincerely, --A Nobody 02:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of SD Gundam G-Generation F mobile suits

I have nominated List of SD Gundam G-Generation F mobile suits, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of SD Gundam G-Generation F mobile suits. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. BradV 06:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Do you have something you want to say to me? ;) BradV 06:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I have commented in the discussion. Sincerely, --A Nobody 16:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

The RfA Barnstar
A Nobody, I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with 112 supports, 4 opposes and 5 neutrals. A special mention goes out to Stwalkerster and Pedro for nominating me, thanks a lot for having trust in me! In response to the neutrals, I will try to double check articles that have been tagged for speedy deletion before I CSD them and will start off slowly with the drama boards of ANI and AN to ensure that I get used to them. In response to the oppose !votes on my RfA, I will check that any images I use meet the non-free content criteria and will attempt to handle any disputes or queries as well as I can. If you need my help at all, feel free to simply ask at my talk page and I'll see if I can help. Once again, thank you for your participation, and have a great day! :) The Helpful One 22:16, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

design by neurolysis | to add this barnstar to your awards page, simply copy and paste {{subst:User:Neurolysis/THOBS}} and remove this bottom text | if you don't like thankspam, please accept my sincere apologies

You're welcome, congratulations, and bravo!  :) And yes, I actually like thank you spam as I think any effort to be friendly and nice helps to make this site a better and more welcoming place to edit. Best, --A Nobody 23:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

List of problems solved by MacGyver

A redirect would not be very useful, since "List of problems solved by MacGyver" isn't a probable search term. However, if you wish this article userfied so you can merge some of its content to another article, I'd be happy to copy it temporarily to User talk:A Nobody/List of problems solved by MacGyver. Tim Vickers (talk) 02:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I've also dropped a note to the clerk dealing with Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Carlsher to notify them about the result of the AfD. Tim Vickers (talk) 02:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I think per Misplaced Pages:Merge and delete, if I merge anything I have to still leave the edit history intact for proper attribution purposes according to the GFDL. I truly believe some good sources/content were added during the discussion that would be beneficial to the main article. What if we went with a merge and protected redirect? Anyway, I have seen admins caution other users {for example, here) about not attributing properly in cases of merges. Best, --A Nobody 02:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Just put a link to the article in your merge edit summary. It doesn't matter if it is a redlink since the history is still retained on the servers. Tim Vickers (talk) 02:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, but if userfied, shouldn't it be at User:A Nobody/List of problems solved by MacGyver? Also, is there anywhere that clearly/definitively says how the whole attribution thing actually works? I think the "merge and delete" link above is an essay and I am not sure if the admin opinion I also link to is personal opinion or what? It is one of those things I am curious about knowing if there is a "right" answer to as I do the occasional merges. Best, --A Nobody 02:32, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Alternatively I see from Help:Merging_and_moving_pages#Selective_paste_merger I could use #REDIRECT ] {{R from merge}}, what target page would you prefer again? Tim Vickers (talk) 02:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
At MacGyver#Influence_on_culture, I see a number of "citation needed"s and hope that I can do that with some of what was added to the deleted article. Anyway, someone in the discussion said that he knew I at least would work on it (see here) and I'd rather not disappoint anyone. So, I figure I might as well at least do what I can to improve the main article and if there's anything here that I can use, it's probably worthwhile. Sincerely, --A Nobody 02:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
OK all done, drop me a note when you're done with that userpage. All the best Tim Vickers (talk) 02:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, thanks, I'll work on it as soon as I can, hopefully within the next few days (assuming the Thanksgiving festivities aren't too hectic!). Best, --A Nobody 02:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this...

Thank you so much. Well, you know what the old-time Congressman Sam Rayburn once said: "Any jackass can kick down a barn door, but it takes a carpenter to build one!" I like to think of myself as a carpenter. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 09:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Me too! Best, --A Nobody 14:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello, A Nobody. You have new messages at McJeff's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Okay, see you there. --A Nobody 14:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD behaviour

In the last two days I see you've been using the old "X hits on this page in X days indicates notability" and "this Google Books reference establishes notability despite its triviality" tropes. Please stop doing this, accept that certain arguments are disruptive and ineffective and refrain from using them again.

If you're going to continue disrupting AfDs with specious and long-discredited arguments (including making personal attacks - I saw that you labelled Doctorfluffy's AfD nom of the McGyver list as "disruptive and pointy"), I see no reason for those editors who have cut you a great deal of slack since your return to continue to assume that you are acting in good faith. To an extent you appear thus far to have managed to distance yourself from your old persona -it would be good to continue that. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

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