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The WikiCup Newsletter Round I, Issue 7 - March 1, 2009 Archive before | Archive after Content Leaders As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants with the most: Featured articles Gary King and Juliancolton have both had 3 successful featured article nominations. Featured lists Matthewedwards has had 7 successful featured list nominations. Featured topics Scorpion0422 and Mitchazenia have both had 1 successful featured topic nomination. Featured pictures Durova has had 40 successful featured picture nominations. Featured sounds Shoemaker's Holiday has had 6 successful featured sound nominations. Featured portals Sunderland06 has had 1 successful featured portal nomination. Good topics Scorpion0422, Theleftorium, Gary King and Climie.ca have all had 1 successful good topic nomination. Good articles Mitchazenia has had 22 successful good article nominations. Did you know? items Candlewicke has had 41 successful "Did you know?" nominations. In the news items Candlewicke has had 22 successful "In the News" nominations. Biggest Jumps This week, the players with the biggest difference between their points last fortnight, and their points this week are: Rank User LF TF D 1 Durova 1348 1528 180 2 Shoemaker's Holiday 420 566 146 3 Useight 420 549 129 4 Matthewedwards 504 625 121 5 ThinkBlue 142 248 106 6 Gary King 920 1012 92 7 97198 241 313 72 8 Sasata 412 480 68 9 Candlewicke 532 580 48 10 Scorpion0422 532 580 48 LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores A full list is located at User:Garden/WikiCup/Jumps From the Judges We have 31 days left, just one month left in the first round. The first two months have already produced spectacular results, and we're hoping to see a great race to the end of the round. Get those nominations in for them to count for this round, but remember that any nominations that are not promoted before the end of this round, will still count for round two if you make it. We unfortunately had another contestant, What!?Why?Who?, withdraw this week and we wish them the best. We saw some big jumps in content upgrades this week! We saw 33 new good articles, 3 new featured articles and lists, 8 featured pictures, 5 featured sounds, and 24 did you know items. (Also note, there are 111 good articles and 222 did you know items as of this newsletter). Keep it up during the final push to round two.  GARDEN , iMatthew // talk, and The Helpful One If you don't wish to receive this newsletter in the future, remove your name from this list. If you are not a participant, but would still like to receive this newsletter, feel free to add your name to the list. WikiCup At a Glance As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a total of: 16 Featured articles 23 Featured lists 2 Featured topics 61 Featured pictures 17 Featured sounds 1 Featured portal 4 Good topics 111 Good articles 222 Did you know? items 35 In the news items Current leaders In this round of the WikiCup, the top two contestants from each pool, along with ten wildcards, will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are: Pool A Gary King (1012) Spencer (292) Pool B Shoemaker's Holiday (566) La Pianista (68) Pool C Scorpion0422 (580) Candlewicke (580) Pool D 97198 (313) ThinkBlue (248) Pool E Sasata (480) X! (211) Pool F the_ed17 (299) Bedford (290) Pool G Ceranthor (177) Sunderland06 (159) Pool H Juliancolton (604) Tinucherian (112) Pool I Durova (1528) Theleftorium (913) Pool J Mitchazenia (816) Matthewedwards (625) Wildcards Useight (549) Paxse (454) Climie.ca (259} Catalan (254) J Milburn (232) Rambo's Revenge (201) Rlevse (129) NapHit (99) WereSpielChequers (92) Howard the Duck (82) Wrestlinglover (82) Dendodge (78) Steven Walling (69) All scores are accurate as of 15:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Contestants in italics are those crawling up behind the wildcards.

18:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC) The Helpful Bot 18:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

A good idea to stop. Mea culpa

I apologise, Roux. A good idea is a good idea though, see my user (not talk) page for the details. Edit Centric (talk) 09:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Apology

I apologize for failing to intervene in some way during the MedCab disaster Caspian blue engineered last year. --Tenmei (talk) 21:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh psh, it's hardly your fault. Honestly, I really don't give a damn about him--he seems to think I have some sort of long-term antagonism towards him, which is an interesting piece of egomania but so far from the truth as to be laughable. This latest... outburst is just more proof. Ah well. //roux   21:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Roux, I assumed Tenmei apologized for this, "I am offended by the heedless harassment of roux", but you're quite generous on this attack unlike your outburst against my criticism and even condone the personal attack series. Good to know about you more.--Caspian blue 22:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Caspian, enough is enough. Stop now. //roux   22:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Caspian blue -- Stop beating a dead horse! If you don't understand this English idiom, click on the link. --Tenmei (talk) 03:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Banned from talk page

I posted the following on my talk page. Perhaps this strategy may help mitigate a continuing parade of harm? --Tenmei (talk) 22:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Blocked from talk page

No: User:Caspian blue ≠ WP:C

Naaa, I can't be bothered. If he chooses to continue acting in this way, it's his choice. I have given enough warnings. //roux   22:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

ANI thread

Hey. Sorry if you think I'm coming across as unhelpful on that thread, but I'm fairly passionate about the subject of verbal abuse and how certain terms are inappropriate here. I think that that user needs to learn the importance of not accusing until ensuring they are correct first. Even so, I've stuck that part of the comment as I realise I'm a little edgy this evening. I'll take a step back for a while... —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 23:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

No no, I totally understood where you were coming from. It's just--same as my reply over there--that because these issues can be so incredibly divisive we really need to solely focus on the content as much as possible. Cheers! //roux   23:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, I'm not sure if anything will be done about the topic at hand anyway. One thing I've found on Misplaced Pages is that it's really hard to get consensus on dealing with occasional vandalism NPOV violations from otherwise good editors, such as ParaGreen13. I suspect any further of the same attitude from him will get him blocked, though, so that might be incentive enough to stop. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 23:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Aye, Misplaced Pages in general has a pachyderm visualisation deficiency when it comes to a wide variety of things. //roux   23:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Your message

I received your message, but I will not become involved in that particular hornets nest. Just wanted to let you know I received it. ···日本穣 06:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thx. re (Top) explanation.

Constructive suggestions

Please reconsider the following comment made by Tznkai:

"... the fact is, no one is willing to step back and shut up instead of argue." --Tznkai (talk) 18:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

If I may, I would like to suggest two plausible ways to "step back," as requested: 1. using the collapse templates to minimize everything that you've posted on Tznkai's talk page

{{collapse top}}

.... whatever you wrote fits in here ....

{{collapse bottom}}

2. using the strike feature to indicate your compliance with the clear request that you abandon the talk page venue

<strike> .... whatever you wrote fits in here .... </strike>

In this instance, your best guesses about how to approach a persistent problem were unavailing. Why not simply "step back" for now? Then when you feel like it, why not mull over what you might have done differently, if anything? This review exercise might suggest more effective defensive strategies ...?

For example, you find useful defensive tools in an unexplored location like Category:English idioms -- as in the phrase "Beating a dead horse"? When Caspian blue or anyone else refuses to take you at your word when you say "stop," it can't hurt for you to suggest something like:

"Stop beating a dead horse -- and if you don't understand this English idiom, click on the link."

I would imagine that this defensive "tool" will be construed as non-confrontational, terse, and unequivocal. This may not prove to be good enough; but there you have it.

Hoping for better days ahead. --Tenmei (talk) 03:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Parappa664

After he twice vandalized my talk page, I turned him in to WP:AIV. That's still pending, but one curiosity is the bot's assertion that he's in the list of IP users for an educational institution. How can a registered user be on that list? Unless he vandalized that too! Baseball Bugs 07:02, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Probably in the cat due to copying the IP talkpage onto his own, I'd guess. //roux   07:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to the team for fixing. This was one of the weirder users I've run into. And my guess is he was, in fact, an IP address that decided to create a user ID. If so, he'll be easy to spot if he comes back again. Baseball Bugs 07:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Something odd here. The contents of User talk:Parappa664 indicate he's been around at least two years, but his contrib list only goes back a couple of weeks. I wonder what's up with that? Baseball Bugs 07:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I get it now. It's like you said. Duh! Too early in the morning (or too late at night). Baseball Bugs 07:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

And this is where he copied it from. That suggests activity from 165.139.22.67 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) bears watching. Baseball Bugs 07:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Probably, yes. Someone really needs to get around the MW bug of not being able to watchlist dynamically-generated pages. Even if you could (with a bot) subst contribs pages every 15 minutes or something... that gives me an idea. I must find a bot person. //roux   07:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Rowdy

Thanks, I didn't catch that. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 16:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

hello

Hello I was in the process of editing an entire article. However as I was editing the following log appeared -- The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) was changed by WetDesert (u) (t) deleting 27431 characters on 2009-03-08T17:03:08+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 17:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC).

I was about to extensively re-write this page, with appropriate references (currently there are hardly 10 references in that article). However due to some kind of a problem (I really don't know what!!!) I got that error (only a few minutes after my editing had begun -- which looked like some kind of a automatically generated message), that reported my sincere efforts as VADALISM.

Kindly fix this problem for me so that I can carry on the work of editing.

Regards WetDesert

Thanks for your help.

Thanks for your help, with the template, can we use one of the reference tags, perhaps the one that is used to generate references, to be consistent, blocking the date part. ? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 02:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Why? External links have a pretty well-defined and simple format. Use the same that is used on every other page on Misplaced Pages. //roux   13:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the best is to link to the homepage of the official web site as you have demonstrated. Thanks. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Rjecina

Following this proposal, what should we do with this? I'm close to just an indefinite block and asking for a community ban. That space of articles is hard enough to patrol but the smearing of everyone makes a lot more sense now. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

That is ridiculous. Unless there's a good and non-disingenuous response, I would absolutely agree with you blocking indef outright. Falsifying sources should simply never be tolerated. //roux   13:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Since you brought it up...

Albeit at AN/I but still. Would you accept a nomination for adminship? I know that some people stay "normal" for reasons of there own so I thought I'd ask first. Padillah (talk) 18:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

You should probably look at this first... Thank you for the vote of confidence, though :) //roux   18:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear it. Padillah (talk) 19:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

No need to be sorry; just showed a lot of the flaws in the WP-o-sphere. //roux   19:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Padillah is just overflowing with generosity today, as he wants to nominate me also. And I have a hunch that what happened with yours would be a good predictor of what would happen with mine. It might be a useful exercise, though. Baseball Bugs 20:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I just figured If it knows as much as an admin, and gives advice like an admin ought... Some of you guys have been seriously overlooked and I wanted to give some props. BTW, the enormous "DON'T PANIC" that shows up during editing may not have the desired effect. In point of fact it startles the crap out of me every time I see it. I dig the cat though. Padillah (talk) 12:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support. It's likely to fail, but it's been a useful exercise. The biggest legitimate complaint seemed to be that I do too much on ANI, so I've taken that off my watch list for awhile, as well as some of the lightning rod articles like Obama. My efforts to defend that article were not appreciated, so there's no point continuing. I'll see if I can focus on baseball articles more, especially with the season just around the corner (after the winter storms taper off). I'll probably take the RFA off my watchlist sometime soon also, as the critics are pretty much parroting each other. It is kind of funny to see a topic-banned user griping about my behavior. Good luck mentoring him. :) Baseball Bugs 05:23, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Current events

Hi. Long time no talk. Hope you are doing well and finding fun things to edit.

I noticed a reasonably good article at wikinews:Canadian teams vie for spot at the World Curling Championship that I thought would be good to use for the portal but after stumbling around the current events section forever (well, okay 5 minutes anyway) I gave up trying to figure out how to update it. It does not appear to be part of the big beautiful update you guys made several months ago but I thought I'd spew my frustration in your general direction anyway. :-P Seriously, If you ever feel like cleaning that mess up or telling me how to easily add a new article to it, go ahead. Cheers! DoubleBlue (talk) 02:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey.. yes, I'll have a look. //roux   03:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

MAKE IT WORK! FIGURE IT OUT!

dude i want help make the livechat help thing work! dont reply if you dont know! WHY DIDNT YOU JUST GET SOMEBODY WHO DID KNOW?!?! im barly on those things for gods sake! MAKE IT WORK! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabbagenoob (talk • contribs) 04:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Cannibaloki 05:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Cannibaloki 05:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

TY

thanks for reverting the "vandalism" on my talkpage. α§ʈάt̪íňέ-210 12:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Bold

You explained to me to be bold and I was and it has now created a conflagration. How to avoid this in the future? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caverty (talk • contribs) 21:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

re. adminhelp

I've responded in my talk. --  Chzz  ►  22:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Ha!

I really did laugh out loud - Thanks! --EEMIV (talk) 22:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Your recent statement on my talk page

I would like to ask why you have fraudulently accused me of edit warring. I have never been in an edit war because I have never reverted a page more than thrice except when reverting vandalism. Please see Misplaced Pages: Edit war before making any further accusations of edit warring. -- IRP ☎ 22:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC), modified 23:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I tagged for speedy--quite appropriately, as it was a G4 recreation. You removed it. I put it back, you re-added the pointless AFD link. Editwarring. Stop wasting peoples' time when things are obviously speedy and it has been explained to you why they are. Thanks. Bye. //roux   23:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Wasting peoples' time does not constitute Misplaced Pages: Edit war. I'm sure there may be an essay somewhere that advises users not to do so, however, I did nothing terribly wrong. Besides, all I did was restore the {{AfD}} tag after you replaced it with the {{DB}} tag, however, I did not remove the DB tag twice, I only removed it once, so please look at the diff before claiming that someone was edit warring. -- IRP ☎ 23:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

No, repeatedly reinserting something after you have been told why not is edit warring. In other news, you can stop being condescending right now, kiddo. Don't bother responding; further messages you post here will be removed on sight, seeing as you and reality don't appear to be on speaking terms. The best part is when you say you didn't remove the db tag twice. Seeing as I never said you did, one has to wonder what you're going on about. //roux   23:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)