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== Named parties ==

Perhaps it might be worth considering adding some other users to the list of named parties. Especially if is going to be happening. -- ] (]) 18:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Condom picture

I am familiar with WP:NOTCENSORED. I was basing my comments against inclusion of the photo on Misplaced Pages:Profanity, which is a guideline:

  • Words and images that would be considered offensive, profane, or obscene by typical Misplaced Pages readers should be used if and only if their omission would cause the article to be less informative, relevant, or accurate, and no equally suitable alternatives are available. Including information about offensive material is part of Misplaced Pages's encyclopedic mission; being offensive is not.

If you believe the photographic image would make the condom article more informative, relevant, or accurate, please say so at Talk:Condom#Use picture. Currently, myself and TeaDrinker have expressed the view that the image does not meet these criteria and the person adding the image has refused to engage in discussion. Under these circumstances, I believe it is reasonable to continue removing the image. If yourself or another editor comments in support of the image, I would of course wait until consensus had been reached before further editing the article. Lyrl C 21:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for commenting. Your last comment didn't get signed with your username, though, for some reason. "I counted the albums on that page a couple of different ways -- Wiki libs' version had 11 albums, the IP's version had 10.--00:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)" Cheers, Enigma 17:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. I've been in the habit lately of typing my tildes instead of hitting the signature button, and I must have hit an extra one. I'll fix that.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages glitches

Howdy Sarek. Is Misplaced Pages having technical problems, I'm having problem making edits. GoodDay (talk) 22:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for helping...

... to monitor Montana Meth Project. I appreciate it. Whatever404 (talk) 16:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Refactoring AfD

Just wanted to give you a heads-up. One of the reasons I was given a restriction by ArbCom was because I refactored an AfD. At the time, I did not realize this sort of thing was frowned upon, and I apologized; however, it was later brought up in the ArbCom process and it may have contributed to the severity of my restriction. Ordinarily this wouldn't be a problem, but at least one of the regular DreamHost editors likes to kick up a stink at WP:ANI over trivial matters, so it might be worth bearing in mind.

On a related note, I am extremely unhappy with the attempt by Judas to use the totally unrelated ArbCom restriction as a tool to bash me over the head with. Do you have any recommendation for how I might go about trying to deal with this problem? -- Scjessey (talk) 23:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I also object to your moving the comments. You started the personal attacks, you shouldn't be the one to move them around, even if moving them is somehow appropriate. Also, you didn't move all of Scjessey's similar comments.
The ArbCom issues look similar to the history at DreamHost, and wasn't it Scjessey who brought a trivial, unfounded stink to ANI? Judas278 (talk) 02:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Let me just make things perfectly clear. I am not objecting to the refactoring of the AfD since it only concerned comments that should've been on the talk page in the first place. The ArbCom investigation was both unrelated and totally dissimilar to the issues at DreamHost. The ANI stuff I was referring to did not involve me or Judas, but rather they involved the self-described AfD "collaborator" Judas is well familiar with. The "unfounded stink" Judas is referring to was actually a fully-justified complaint about the woeful behavior of an SPA who shall remain nameless. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Template Clarinet

Can you take a look at these edits:http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Clarinet&action=history, http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template_talk:Clarinet&curid=7803467&action=history ? --Andrija (talk) 13:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

What's cool to edit

Hey Sarek, I use Misplaced Pages a lot. As a wannabe writer, it had been a great resource to me. In the spirit of charity, I would like to help. From my formal education, and through this hobby of mine, I have a developed the gift (curse) of being able to spot typos, so I should note when I've done so with an edit, i.e. in the article on Herbert J. Armstrong, the televangelist Jim Bakker's name was misspelled as 'Baker', the more common spelling of the surname. Is that cool? If so, I shall continue to do so. I know, get a life, right? Anyway, thanks for your greeting, and that's why I joined.

Sincerely, and non-anonymously,

Mark Fisher Los Angeles, California, U.S.A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucid Idiot (talkcontribs) 20:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks cool, assuming it was Jim Bakker being referred to. :-) As I said before, welcome! Good luck finding your niche in Misplaced Pages. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk)

Now this...

...was funny. very nice job of using subtle humor to defuse a situation. Well done. Dayewalker (talk) 17:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Subtle? *scratches head* What would you call Little Boy, a firecracker? :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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DreamHost arbitration

I recognize the necessity, but I wish it hadn't come so soon after the Obama articles arbitration. I've been working really hard to restore my good standing in the last few weeks, and now I'm going to have to put much of that aside to focus on this. -- Scjessey (talk) 04:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I understand, and I'm sorry to target you so soon after the last case ended, but I couldn't see any other form of dispute resolution that hasn't been tried working. As far as I can, I'll try to respond to stuff so you don't have to -- but there probably will be things I can't address.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
The timing is not your fault. In fact, there has been a distinct increase in DreamHost-related activity since the Obama ArbCom case ended, with my editing restriction being frequently mentioned. Someone more paranoid than I might conclude it was no coincidence. To be honest, all that really concerns me is my ugly-looking block log, which I believe played a large part in the "judgment" made in the Obama case. I'll have to yell at that block-happy "Sarek" for abusing admin tools.... oh wait, that was you! </sarcasm> -- Scjessey (talk) 04:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Heh. At least on the second one, you got an "overly severe" early unblock... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. That totally made me come up smelling of the proverbial roses LOL. Anyway, it looks as if one of the bright chaps at ArbCom might have an intermediate solution that could work. -- Scjessey (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi guys I just want to add my two cents before I do what I now must but one thing is 100% certain, Judas isn't guilty of anything really and any claim that he is simply won't be credible. I however admittedly have not respected civility and no personal attacks as well as I should have repeatedly. It is my sincere opinion that this arbitration will lead to the demotion of Sarekofvulcan since he has acted in a manner that is not appropriate for a wikipedia admin repeatedly. As for Scjessey I wouldn't be suprised if this ends in a six month long ban or perhaps even a longer one since his issues with civility and personal attacks are a bit too large to ignore. The funny thing is that I was acctually ready to overlook all of these issues and not do anything about them since I'm not really the type to be engaging in disputes but since the arbitration is a go now I must respect it and do what I believe is in the best interests of wikipedia and give full disclosure of events. Anyway I am sorry that things had to go like this but shit happens.--194x144x90x118 (talk) 15:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Fledgling Jason Steed

Does this: make the book any more WP notable? Next Karate Kid film, starring Will Smith, based on portions of the book.--Beehold (talk) 16:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Not really. See also WP:CRYSTAL.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Hmmmmmmm. I'll respect your word on the "Not really" part, but the WP:Crystal thing really doesn't apply. The film is a done deal, due to contracts already being signed, and the magazine quoted is WP: reliable. Misplaced Pages carries a great many articles about "films of the future," from Harry Potter epics to Disney adventures - hence the WP:Crystal arguement really doesn't wash.--Beehold (talk) 16:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Truegreta

When the account was reported to UAA this diff, with the first person plural, was referenced to support the shared-account contention. Daniel Case (talk) 17:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks more like the Royal we to me. And if it was a block for using a role account, then how could changing the username to something other than her name be helpful, as the block message implies?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to chime in here too, I was drawn into this from the WP:COIN posting. I see the "royal we" on occasion and I've never assumed it to be an admission of shared account use. In her case, in particular, she could be speaking from the position of the group she advocates for. -- Atama 18:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
On Misplaced Pages no one should be using the royal we (and is it not equally possible that other members of the group have been invited to use the account?). In any event, I consider this discussion more or less moot as there are other reasons to sustain an indefinite block of the account. Daniel Case (talk) 04:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough -- I kinda suspected that would be the eventual outcome anyhow.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

We are grouchy

Bwaaaahahahahaaaa! Ars Technica: Study concludes Wikipedians are a bunch of grumpy introverts -- Scjessey (talk) 19:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmph.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Named parties

Perhaps it might be worth considering adding some other users to the list of named parties. Especially if this sort of thing is going to be happening. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)