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::::*Even a C-list God would have divined from my comment above that some tall buildings are and some aren't skyscrapers. Your powers, already dim, are appearing sub-mortal now. Oh Unmighty one, what is the cutoff that makes a building officially a "skyscrapter"{{sic}}? Lol. ] (]) 22:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC) ::::*Even a C-list God would have divined from my comment above that some tall buildings are and some aren't skyscrapers. Your powers, already dim, are appearing sub-mortal now. Oh Unmighty one, what is the cutoff that makes a building officially a "skyscrapter"{{sic}}? Lol. ] (]) 22:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Dunno, but let's not compound the problem by merging. Or we can merge it, in which case the articles will be removed. Incidentally, I think the hilarity of the God joke may be waning. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC) :::::Dunno, but let's not compound the problem by merging. Or we can merge it, in which case the articles will be removed. Incidentally, I think the hilarity of the God joke may be waning. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::This whole line of humor finds me rolling on the floor, laughing out loud. If only there were some sort of abbreviation for that phenomenon. While I was just riffing on your claim of being God, it's never seemed to bother you when you were actively trying to ridicule other editors together with your admin buddies. Is there any standard here that applies to you, or just the usual double kind? ] (]) 21:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. ] is sufficient and the structures are already included in other categories for buildings in Paris. ] (]) 23:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC) *'''Delete'''. ] is sufficient and the structures are already included in other categories for buildings in Paris. ] (]) 23:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
*'''Do not delete''' without notifying the talk pages of the memberpages, and the memberpages of its one subcategory, and the four non-minor editors of the category, and then relisting. Not even the creator of the category seems to have been notified. --] (]) 10:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC) *'''Do not delete''' without notifying the talk pages of the memberpages, and the memberpages of its one subcategory, and the four non-minor editors of the category, and then relisting. Not even the creator of the category seems to have been notified. --] (]) 10:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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Category:Jewish eugenicists

Category:Jewish eugenicists - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete This looks like a meaningless intersection per WP:Overcategorization. Is "Jewish eugenics" a particular sort of concept, or is this just a random categorization providing an association of a subset of individual people known for their pro-eugenics views with the subset's membership in the Jewish ethnic/cultural category? If it's the latter, what actual helpful or scholarly purpose for Misplaced Pages might it accomplish? Anti-Nationalist (talk) 23:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Qt

Propose renaming Category:Qt to Category:Qt (toolkit)
Nominator's rationale: To match parent article, Qt (toolkit), as QT is ambiguous. — ξ 23:18, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Action on climate change

Category:Action on climate change - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete. It's still unclear what should be put in the category. But, more to the point, the 99. anon will put any people, organizations, events, slogans, campaigns, protests, movies, murals, postcards, neckties, samplers, stained-glass windows, tattoos or categories which, even tangentially relate to mitigation of global warming. Unless anons can be prevented from adding articles to this category, it's unmaintainable, even if there were an appropriate definition. However, I cannot imagine an appropriate definition, so it would probably be better to delete the category and start over. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Rename and heavily weed: I suggest a rename to something like "Climate change activism" or "Global warming activism", and to weed out all of the cruft. This could then run parallel to some kind of weeded science-ey category, perhaps a weeded "global warming" one. Every category on this topic, in fact, looks really crufty, and I've just started running into 99.X's additions of random tangents to them. Awickert (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
But wait... even if I go through and organize the categories, every Fred, Jane, and Harry will add their favorite things to "cat:global warming", so maybe completely not worth the effort. Awickert (talk) 20:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Kagero class destroyers

Propose renaming Category:Kagero class destroyers to Category:Kagerō class destroyers
Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match name of main article, Kagerō class destroyer. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Subcategories of Category:Rolling stock by country

Propose renaming:
Nominator's rationale: (1) WP:NCCAT suggests that in ‘by country’ categories, it should be “Rolling stock of Foo” rather than “Fooian rolling stock”; (2) It is “Rolling stock of Foo” on Commons, so not having to remember two different forms is an aid to users; (3) Avoiding the adjectival form of country names is an aid to users for whom English is a foreign language.

Category:Living performers of Christian music

Category:Living performers of Christian music - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Do we really need "living people" subcategories for each individual occupation? Delete as WP:OCAT, sez me. Bearcat (talk) 09:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment - these are all talk pages so it should be renamed to reflect this (an admin cat of some sort). Occuli (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • This category is added by the {{Christianmusic}} template. I have put a notice on that talkpage. Apart from that I agree with the nominator that we don't need a category for this. Debresser (talk) 17:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep, as cat creator: Is this causing any harm (yes, I know where that links)? I don't know if this category is hurting anything, but I do know that it's been helpful for me, and I created it so we could keep track of and protect BLPs within a certain WikiProject. No need to go and create a "living person" cat for every occupation, sure I agree, but this isolated one is useful. Too bad categories can't operate in the userspace. JamieS93 19:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Jugoslovenskih Železnica locomotives

Propose renaming Category:Jugoslovenskih Železnica locomotives to Category:Yugoslav Railways locomotives
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to maych the English name used for the main article. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Locomotives of the Bodmin and Wenford Railway

Propose renaming Category:Locomotives of the Bodmin and Wenford Railway to Category:Bodmin and Wenford Railway locomotives
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to match the standard form in Category:Locomotives by railway. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:18, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:ČSD locomotives

Propose renaming Category:ČSD locomotives to Category:Czechoslovak State Railways locomotives
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to match the name of the main article and to remove the hard to enter abbreviation. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:SBB-CFF-FFS locomotives

Propose renaming Category:SBB-CFF-FFS locomotives to Category:Swiss Federal Railways locomotives
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to match the name of the main article and to remove the abbreviations for three different languages. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:SEK locomotives

Propose renaming Category:SEK locomotives to Category:Hellenic State Railways locomotives
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Remove abbreviation and match category name to name of the parent article. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:08, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:SNCB locomotives

Propose renaming Category:SNCB locomotives to Category:National Railway Company of Belgium locomotives
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Remove abbreviation and match name to name of the parent article. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Tall buildings and structures in Paris

Category:Tall buildings and structures in Paris
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Undefined inclusionary criteria. How tall is "tall"? Selecting a defined height would be arbitrary. No comparable category for other cities or locales exists. Good Ol’factory 01:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • There is no definition of skyscraper anyway, but there will have to be some cleanup to put skyscrapers with skyscrapers and all the others in buildings and structures. Alansohn (talk) 19:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Even a C-list God would have divined from my comment above that some tall buildings are and some aren't skyscrapers. Your powers, already dim, are appearing sub-mortal now. Oh Unmighty one, what is the cutoff that makes a building officially a "skyscrapter" ? Lol. Alansohn (talk) 22:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Dunno, but let's not compound the problem by merging. Or we can merge it, in which case the articles will be removed. Incidentally, I think the hilarity of the God joke may be waning. Good Ol’factory 01:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
This whole line of humor finds me rolling on the floor, laughing out loud. If only there were some sort of abbreviation for that phenomenon. While I was just riffing on your claim of being God, it's never seemed to bother you when you were actively trying to ridicule other editors together with your admin buddies. Is there any standard here that applies to you, or just the usual double kind? Alansohn (talk) 21:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete. The related list is sufficient and the structures are already included in other categories for buildings in Paris. Cjc13 (talk) 23:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Do not delete without notifying the talk pages of the memberpages, and the memberpages of its one subcategory, and the four non-minor editors of the category, and then relisting. Not even the creator of the category seems to have been notified. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
    Comment. Notifying the category editors is optional, although recommended, and notifying the talk pages of the member pages is not recommended. Commening on the talk page of a {{catmain}} article might be appropriate. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
    For this category, for this discussion, *I* recommend it. Are you referring to the rules that keep the general editorship community uninvolved? Why should editors who are interested in tall buildings and structures in Paris not be advised that there is this discussion? Do you know better than them? Please see WT:CSD. For whatever reasons, interested editors do not have categories on their watchlists. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
    How do you know who does and does not have a page on their watchlist? Good Ol’factory 20:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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