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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on December 6

Corbin Fisher

• ... that the gay pornography film studio Corbin Fisher offers contracted actors health benefits and a 401(k) plan?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 09:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth, and Happiness

• ...that the book Nudge, written by Cass Sunstein and Richard Thaler, defends the political philosophy of libertarian paternalism?

Created by JEN9841 (talk). Nominated by JEN9841 (talk) at 08:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Brown stingray

• ... that the brown stingray (pictured) is the most common stingray found off Hawaii?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

John F. Auer

• ... that Medal of Honor recipient John F. Auer's medal was stolen before he left the United States Navy?

Created by Bradjamesbrown (talk). Self nom at 06:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Be gentle, this is my first try at DYK!

Stephania Bell

• ... that ESPN sports commentator and injury analyst Stephania Bell was a French major at Princeton University?

Created by User:TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Obudu Ranch International Mountain Race

• ... that the Obudu Ranch International Mountain Race is known as "the world's richest mountain race" due to the large amounts of prize money on offer?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Sillyfolkboy (talk) at 01:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —mattisse (Talk) 01:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Furnace Brook Parkway

• ... that Furnace Brook Parkway, a historic state highway in Quincy, Massachusetts, gets its name from a stream near the first iron blast furnace established in the United States?

• Comment: Co-contributors worked on expansion in user space using sandbox page

5x expanded by Sswonk (talk), Jameslwoodward (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 5

Tom's Divorce

• ... that in "Tom's Divorce", an episode of NBC's Parks and Recreation, a man dressed like a horse performs a singing telegram to a divorcee?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 08:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Jean Nouguès

• ... that Jean Nouguès is believed to have written the first opera specifically composed for gramophone recording?

Created by Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Phil H. Bucklew

• ... that Phil H. Bucklew was a former professional football player who went on to become a United States Navy officer twice awarded the Navy Cross, and is known as the "Father of Naval Special Warfare"?

5x expanded by Mike Searson (talk). Self-nom at 00:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• Not a 5x expansion. On 21 November 2009, it was 3,149 characters. A 5x expansion requires at least 15,745 characters. This article is currently 6,674 characters as of 6 December 2009. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 00:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

My bad, I was counting the sources, etc. Forgot that you could have unsourced fluff for this instead of actual work. Apologies.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 01:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm not fond of C1 either, but it's a long-established, seldom-questioned consensus. Art LaPella (talk) 07:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Sir John Tankerville Goldney

• ... that golf was introduced to Singapore by Sir John Tankerville Goldney in 1891 while he was Chief Justice for the Straits Settlements?

Created by Rodhullandemu (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Not clear why this is in the article:

Goldney served as Chief Justice for the Straits Settlements from 1887 to 1892 and brought with him from the Caribbean "a superb negro butler named Eraser, who ruled the household with a rod of iron, and, like most of his race, was exceedingly fond of fine raiment." Having brought golf clubs with him, he noticed there was no course in Singapore where he could use them; accordingly, he proposed that part of the Singapore Sporting Club's land be used for golf...

Who is the "he"? Is it Eraser or Sir John Tankerville Goldney? Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 00:55, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

River Malago

• ... that in 1641 Bristol Corporation concluded a perambulation of the city boundaries with a duck hunt at Treen Mills on the River Malago?

Created by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, I am unclear why Bristol Corporation redirects to Politics of Bristol, as neither are mentioned in the River Malago article as far as I can tell. Would you clarify for me? Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 01:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

There is no article on Bristol City Council (it redirects to Politics of Bristol), the successor body to Bristol Corporation. I would be happy to delink it if you think that is best. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Just Like Anyone (song)

• ... that the music video for alternative rock band Soul Asylum's 1995 song "Just Like Anyone" features actress Claire Danes?

Created by Gongshow (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook verified (google books). Calmer Waters 02:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Arthur Lee Dixon

• ... that Arthur Lee Dixon was the last mathematical Chair to hold a life tenure at Oxford University? Ironholds (talk) 21:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, I cannot find a source for the hook in the article. Also, is a "Chair" a person, or is it a position a person holds, e.g. a chairman holds a chair? —mattisse (Talk) 23:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

"Chair" is moot here, the correct word, I think, is "Professor", but that word has different meanings in UK & US usage, and it needs to be clarified as well as sourced. Rodhullandemu 23:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

"Chair" is the word used; "professor" has different meanings in the US and UK, but in both places "Chair" refers to an endowed professorship, so I'd prefer that to avoid confusion. The point is stringently sourced, unless you consider Oxford University Press unreliable. Ironholds (talk) 01:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Paul Roos (rugby player)

• ... that South Africa rugby captain Paul Roos chose the team nickname, "Springboks", to prevent the British press from inventing their own?

Expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). self nom FruitMonkey (talk) 19:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Rate-capping rebellion

• ... that the district auditor investigating the rate-capping rebellion in Lambeth found his picture on a mock Wanted poster in his local supermarket?

Created by Sam Blacketer (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• PS there is a snippet view on Google Books of the individual reference here. Sam Blacketer (talk) 16:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Hoppa högst

• ... that the Swedish film Hoppa högst was written by famous author Astrid Lindgren, who based the screenplay on a story from her book Kajsa Kavat?

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 16:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Union générale des syndicats algériens

• ... that the Algerian communist trade union centre UGSA disbanded itself in 1957, after the rival nationalist UGTA had participated in the Leipzig congress of the World Federation of Trade Unions?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Arne Skaug

• ... that in 1948, Arne Skaug became the first State Secretary in the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

List of international cricket centuries by Sanath Jayasuriya

• ... that Sanath Jayasuriya (pictured) has scored 28 ODI centuries, the second highest in the world and the highest for the Sri Lanka national cricket team?

• Comment: Created months ago in userspace, but moved to mainspace on 5th (see F3)

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

List of U.S. states by Alford plea usage

• ... that three U.S. states do not accept the guilty plea known as the Alford plea?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, article says Michigan was one of the three states accepting the Alford plea but the source you give states Michigan does accept it (if I understand correctly). —mattisse (Talk) 17:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Quoting from source: The Supreme Court of Indiana has held that judges may not accept guilty pleas accompanied by protestations of innocence. The court suggested that Alford pleas risk being unintelligent, involuntary, and inaccurate. Another reason for the Indiana rule is that Alford pleas undercut public respect for the justice system. Michigan and New Jersey courts agree and also forbid Alford pleas.. Cirt (talk) 20:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —mattisse (Talk) 20:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Chaul

• ... that in the 1508 Battle of Chaul in India, a Mamluk-Gujarati fleet defeated a Portuguese fleet under Lourenço de Almeida?

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 10:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Jody Trautwein

• ... that Jody Trautwein, seen in Sasha Baron Cohen's film Brüno, is running for mayor of Birmingham, Alabama?

Created by Tedder (talk). Self nom at 08:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

SS Brussels

• ... that SS Brussels (scuttled ship pictured) attempted to ram U-33 on 28 March 1915; and that after she was captured by the Germans, her captain, Charles Fryatt was executed for that act?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 07:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —mattisse (Talk) 21:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Red stingray, Mekong freshwater stingray

• ... that the red stingray (pictured) and the Mekong freshwater stingray are characterized by their bright orange undersides?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified for both articles. Offline sources for the hook accepted in good faith. —mattisse (Talk) 21:14, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Thikse Monastery

• ... that Thikse Monastery is called Mini-Potala due to its structural similarity to Potala Palace, Tibet – the former residence of the Dalai Lama?

• Comment: formally Thikse

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 06:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Land Titles Building – Victoria Armoury

• ... that when the Canadian government attempted to move the land titles office out of Edmonton's Land Titles Building to a rival town, an angry mob sabotaged the move and had an armed standoff with police?

Created by Kevlar67 (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Article is only 1337 characters. The minimum for dyk is 1500. Can you add to it? Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 21:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Salt Lake Oil Field

• ... that there is an oil field underneath Los Angeles, California, called the Salt Lake Oil Field?

Created by Antandrus (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 00:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook verified while AGF for offline references and crossed checked with independent online sources Calmer Waters 02:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 4

Berbak National Park

• ... that Berbak National Park in Sumatra, Indonesia, forms part of the largest undisturbed swamp forest in southeastern Asia, and the most palm species rich peat swamp forest yet known?

Created by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Balberta

• ... that Balberta was one of the largest cities on the Guatemalan Pacific coastal plain during the Mesoamerican Early Classic period?

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that the powerful Early Classic Mesoamerican city of Balberta, in Guatemala, abruptly collapsed around AD 400, perhaps due to the aggression of distant Teotihuacan, its former trading partner? Simon Burchell (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Lipschütz ulcer

• ... that Lipschütz ulcer is sometimes misdiagnosed as a symptom of Behçet's disease?

• ALT1:... that, despite being a genital ulcer, Lipschütz ulcer is not an STD, and is in fact most common in virgins?
• Comment: Una Smith (talk · contribs) gave the hook idea. This article was created in response to a request from Kilbad (talk · contribs).

Created by Fvasconcellos (talk). Nominated by Fvasconcellos (talk) at 12:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

RQ-170 Sentinel

• ... that the RQ-170 Sentinel unmanned aerial vehicle was dubbed the "Beast of Kandahar" by aviation expert Bill Sweetman when it was photographed at the Afghan city's airport before its existence was officially confirmed by the United States Air Force?

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Georg Anton Schäffer

• ... that the Russian conquest of Hawaii was led by a German physician?created and nominated by IPs. 91.77.17.167 (talk) 01:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• The Russians didn't conquer Hawaii, so:
• ALT1:... that an attempted Russian conquest of Hawaii was led by a German physician? Art LaPella (talk) 01:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Right, perhaps adding years (1815-1817) to get rid of unnecessary sensationalism. 91.77.17.167 (talk) 02:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Modern Talking

• ... that Modern Talking (pictured) is the most successful band in Germany, selling more than 120 million records?

Created by MisterWiki (talk). Nominated by MisterWiki (talk) at 00:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Hi! Did You Know is for new articles only, meaning that they should be created within the last five days, or expanded fivefold within the last five days. This is not the case with this article. Geschichte (talk) 10:14, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Pichilemu

• ... that the old Ross Casino from Pichilemu (pictured) was the first casino ever in Chile?

Created by MisterWiki (talk). Nominated by MisterWiki (talk) at 00:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Unless one of the obscure exceptions applies, this is not a new article or a 5x expansion. The rule is summarized at WP:Did you know/Article and further details are linked from there. Art LaPella (talk) 01:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Luiz Francisco Rebello

• ... that Luiz Francisco Rebello is the most credited Portuguese theatrical historian?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 22:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, the link that sources the hook is a 404. (Link seems to be fixed now.) Source for hook verified. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 17:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Federal Triangle

• ... that the Federal Triangle building complex in Washington, D.C. (construction pictured) has been called "one of the greatest building projects ever undertaken"?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 20:41, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

William Sharington

• ... that Sir William Sharington (pictured) was pardoned after he was described in a sermon by Bishop Hugh Latimer as "an honest gentleman, and one that God loveth"?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 19:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Reference, date and length verified. Mangoe (talk) 21:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

All in the Mind (novel)

• ... that former British government Director of Communications Alastair Campbell's debut novel All in the Mind drew on his experiences of depression and alcoholism?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 19:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, the article does not say that he was a former British government official nor mention any office he held. —mattisse (Talk) 23:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

 Done Have added relevant information and supporting ref. TheRetroGuy (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Defective Premises Act 1972

• ... that while passing through the Parliament of the United Kingdom, the Defective Premises Act 1972 was not at all debated in the House of Commons? Ironholds (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Sharp Burial Ground

• ... that despite most of its interments later being moved to larger rural cemeteries, Sharp Burial Ground (John O'Neil monument, pictured) in Kingston, New York, still has the graves of two former U.S. Congressmen?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 19:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• 220 character hook. LittleMountain5 03:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Try it now. Daniel Case (talk) 03:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Parliament of Singapore

• ... that in addition to elected Members of Parliament, the Parliament of Singapore (Parliament House pictured) has Non-constituency Members of Parliament and Nominated Members of Parliament who are appointed to their seats?

• ... that the Parliament of Singapore (Parliament House pictured) cannot be properly constituted unless the Mace of Parliament is brought into the debating chamber by the Serjeant-at-Arms and laid on the Table of the House?

• ... that if a Member of the Parliament of Singapore (Parliament House pictured) claims a division during a vote on a motion, MPs are locked inside the debating chamber by the Serjeant-at-Arms until their votes have been tallied?

5x expanded by Jacklee (talk). Nominated by Jacklee (talk) at 18:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Chard Junction railway station

File:Chard Junction railway station.jpg

• ... that a new Chard Junction signal box (pictured) was built in 1982 despite the station and junction being closed in the 1960s?

5x expanded by Geof Sheppard (talk). Nominated by Geof Sheppard (talk) at 17:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Premier League 10 Seasons Awards

• ... that for the 10 Seasons Awards, around 750,000 football fans from 184 countries voted, in a celebration of the first ten years of the English Premier League?

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 16:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Main Building (University of Santo Tomas)

Facade of the Main Building of the University of Santo Tomas

• ... that the design for the Main Building (pictured) of the University of Santo Tomas was influenced by Frank Lloyd Wright's Imperial Hotel in Tokyo?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 15:19, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

SS Irish Pine (1919)

• ... that both the Irish Pine and Irish Oak, which were chartered from the United States by Irish Shipping Ltd during the Second World War, were sunk by German U-boats, despite their neutral status?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 14:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Stephanie Stumph

• ... that in 2009, German actress Stephanie Stumph proposed to her idol, IBF middleweight world champion Arthur Abraham but he declined because he was "too young "?

Created by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Dunan Aula

• ... that according to legend, Dunan Aula was the burial site of the Viking warrior 'Olaf, son of the King of Denmark'; after he was slain in combat against local Scots?

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Date, length are Ok, but references 3,5 require registration which is not good for wikipedia, and they support the hook. In the hook and the article, I think you meant legend instead of tradition (repeating event (?)). Materialscientist (talk) 11:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Those links are viewable for free, scroll down to "For non-subscribers" (i don't have a subscription or anything either). You just got to scroll through a couple scanned pages. OK, i understand what you mean, "Tradition" was the wording used in the refs, though now i can see how it would be more clear to use "Legend". I'll switch to 'legend'.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 11:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

  Verified. Materialscientist (talk) 05:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Trần Thánh Tông

• ... that the Emperor Trần Thánh Tông of Trần Dynasty had a son and a daughter who died on the same day, month and year?

5x expanded by Grenouille vert (talk). Nominated by Grenouille vert (talk) at 07:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

John Deasy (MP)

• ... that in 1893, the career of Irish nationalist politician John Deasy was cut short when he was tried for indecent assault?

5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 05:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Kristina Keneally

• ... that Kristina Keneally is the first female Premier of New South Wales and leads the first two woman executive (Premier and Deputy) in Australian history?

5x expanded by WWGB (talk), Bilby (talk), Digestible (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry but the article has not been 5x expanded, only 2x from ca.2,500 characters prose at the end of November to ca.5,000 characters now. see DYK rules. Elekhh (talk) 04:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 3

William B. Slaughter

• ... that a county named after William B. Slaughter was renamed because its citizens were dissatisfied with the name?

• Comment: Will notify author of problems with bare URL references.

Created by RFD (talk). Nominated by Ucucha (talk) at 15:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• {ALT1) ... that Slaughter County, Iowa, named after William B. Slaughter, was renamed because its citizens were dissatisfied with the name? Royalbroil 16:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
• {ALT2) ... who Slaughter County, Iowa was named after? Royalbroil 16:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks to Mattisse, the bare URLs have been fixed. I believe this article is now ready for DYK (verified the hook from the sources). Ucucha 16:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
• Good to go. Lengths and dates check out, the hook source is OK, and there are no bare URLs or similar issues in the article. I did wonder whether the hook should include the name of the place where the county is (i.e, Iowa). --Orlady (talk) 17:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  • I avoided that because the county wasn't in Iowa when it was created (this happened in 1838 and Iowa was admitted to the Union in 1846). I don't have a big problem with including "Iowa", though. Ucucha 17:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    • Perhaps should reword ALT2 for grammar, since it's not the best idea to end sentences with prepositions? Nyttend (talk) 17:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
      • This Google Books search shows a fairly solid consensus against that rule. Art LaPella (talk) 19:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Gypsy (1993 film)

• ... that rather than follow the usual practice of lip synching to prerecorded vocals during filming, Bette Midler sang most of her songs live in the 1993 television movie Gypsy?

Created by LiteraryMaven (talk). Nominated by LiteraryMaven (talk) at 14:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, I am unsure of the article as it is composed mostly of the plot of the movie, and it is sourced from {{one source}} - Gypsy original soundtrack recording liner notes by Craig Zadan. What do others think? —mattisse (Talk) 21:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Megaworld Corporation

• ... that Philippine real estate company Megaworld Corporation developed the 45-storey Petron Megaplaza, the country's tallest building upon its completion in 1998?

Created by TheCoffee (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, what is interesting about the hook? Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 21:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

James and Mary Forsyth House

• ... that the Richard Upjohn-designed James and Mary Forsyth House (pictured) is the only extant pre-Civil War house in Kingston, New York, by a nationally prominent architect?

• ALT1:... that two of the residents of the Richard Upjohn-designed James and Mary Forsyth House (pictured) in Kingston, New York, left it after being accused of financial wrongdoing?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 05:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

First Battle of Chuenpee

• ... that according to Chinese scholar Wei Yuan, British ships mistook Chinese red flags for a declaration of war, triggering the First Battle of Chuenpee (1839) in the First Opium War?

5x expanded by Spellcast (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry but the article has not been 5x expanded or created within the last 5 days. Was created November 5th, was 3418 prose on November 13th, and currently at 3474 prose. would require 17,000 prose. Calmer Waters 23:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah I see I submitted this too late, but that's OK. Just thought I'd try this since I haven't done a DYK before. Spellcast (talk) 00:59, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Pat Screen

• ... that 15 years after playing in the 1966 Cotton Bowl, Louisiana State University Tigers quarterback Pat Screen was elected Mayor of Baton Rouge?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Lý Chiêu Hoàng

• ... that unlike her predecessors, the Empress Regnant Lý Chiêu Hoàng was not worshipped in Lý Bát Đế Shrine because of her responsibility in the collapse of Lý Dynasty?

5x expanded by Grenouille vert (talk). Nominated by Grenouille vert (talk) at 21:39, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that the only empress regnant in history of Vietnam, Lý Chiêu Hoàng, got married to Trần Cảnh when they were both seven years old? Nominated by Grenouille vert (talk) 21:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Georgi Stranski

• ... that Bulgarian physician and politician Georgi Stranski, best man to national poet Hristo Botev, was the only ever Commissar of South Bulgaria?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 20:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Offline references accepted on good faith. - Biruitorul 02:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Mattress (Glee)

• ... that actress Jessalyn Gilsig hoped viewers would warm to her Glee character Terri Schuester after the episode "Mattress", having previously experienced a fan backlash?

5x expanded by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 19:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Herne Bay Museum and Gallery

• ... that Herne Bay Museum and Gallery contains the prototype Highball bouncing bomb, precursor of the Upkeep bouncing bomb used in the 1943 Dambuster raids?

Alt hook:

• ... that the British Army found the 1943 prototype Highball bouncing bomb, precursor of the Dambuster bomb, in the sea in 1997, and it is now in Herne Bay Museum and Gallery?

Created by Storye book (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Tzintzuntzan (Mesoamerican site)

• ... that at the Tzintzuntzan pyramids (pictured) huge fires were lit to signal the P'urhépecha kingdom that it was time to go to war?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion & fact verified. Hook tweaked for grammar. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Marisa Wegrzyn

• ... that playwright Marisa Wegrzyn dealt with poor reviews by "being sulky and brooding and riding the subway a lot"?

Created by Mm40 (talk). Nominated by Mm40 (talk) at 12:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length, creation date, and quote verified. Looks good - in the hook, "negative reviews" may be a more accurate term. JamieS93 17:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Occupiers' Liability Act 1984

• ... that part of the Occupiers' Liability Act 1984, a piece of United Kingdom legislation on tort law, is intended to permit educational and recreational use of land? Fivefold expansion. Ironholds (talk) 09:37, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

The hook states that this is UK legislation. Does the Act apply in Scotland as Tort in Scotland is known as Delict? Kernel Saunters (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Nope; legislation passed by the United Kingdom, but covering England and Wales. Most tort legislation is specific to jurisdiction, an exception being the Defective Premises Act 1972. Ironholds (talk) 17:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Naval Reserve Armory

• ... that Seattle's Art Deco-styled Naval Reserve Armory (pictured) was feared to become a white elephant?

Created/expanded by Doncram (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Not a 5-fold expansion. On October 14, 2009 it was 2027 characters and on December 5 it was 1992 characters. Needs to be at least 10,135 characters for a 5-fold expansion. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 22:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Longtail stingray

File:Mantaraya de Revillagigedo.png

• ... that tail length is not a reliable way to identify the longtail stingray (pictured), because its tail is often damaged?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —mattisse (Talk) 22:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Hartford Dark Blues all-time roster

• ... that Bob Ferguson played for, and managed the Hartford Dark Blues Major League Baseball team from 1875 to 1877, the final three years of its four year existence?

5x expanded by Neonblak (talk). Self nom at 06:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Italian battleship Roma (1940)

• ... that after only fifteen months in commission, the Italian battleship Roma (sister ship pictured) was sunk by two German Fritz X radio-controlled bombs?

• Comment: recently histmerged the old article with a version from my userspace (old article)

5x expanded by The ed17 (talk), La Pianista (talk). Nominated by The ed17 (talk) at 05:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• .. which means the prose expansion is only 9292/2560=3.6. Otherwise good job. Materialscientist (talk) 11:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 2

Fisheries and climate change

• ... that climate change and rising ocean acidity is affecting fisheries and modifying fish distributions?

Created by Kieran Kelleher (talk). Nominated by Geronimo20 (talk) at 09:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Schwa (restaurant)

• ... that Schwa (Quail Egg Ravioli pictured), an upscale restaurant in Chicago, employs no receptionist, waiters, or other support staff?

5x expanded by ThaddeusB (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• I offer the picture only as b/c I thought it might be desirable. If it isn't used, I have no problem with that since it is not directly related to the hook. (The hook is far more interesting than one directly related to the pic would be.) --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
  • P.S. If you DYK reviewer could take a minute to assess the article and leave comments for improvement, I'd appreciate it. (I plan to do more work on the article.) --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• Looks good for DYK. I'll leave some comments on the page itself at its talk. Ucucha 03:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Naval Training Center San Diego

• ... that the Naval Training Center San Diego was the home of a commissioned "non-ship" of the U.S. Navy, the USS Recruit (pictured), a concrete model of a warship built right into the ground and nicknamed the "USS Neversail"?

Created by Dave Biskner (talk). Nominated by MelanieN (talk) at 08:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• COMMENT: A picture is available - Image:USS Recruit TDE-1.JPG|right|thumb|300px - but I don't know how to add it here! Sorry, this is my first nomination! --MelanieN (talk) 08:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

• When using Template:NewDYKnom just use the image parameter: |image=USS Recruit TDE-1.JPG. I've added it for you. LittleMountain5 15:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
• Sadly, the claim of priority is not true. There was a wooden non-ship, the "U.S.S. Recruit", constructed in NYC in 1917. See this historic picture from Shorpy.com. Mangoe (talk) 15:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the information. My source was incorrect. I have modified the "did you know...?" item accordingly.

Miss Angie

• ... that Christian music artist Miss Angie began her solo career doing praise and worship sets after Johnny Q. Public concerts?

Created by DantheCowMan (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 23:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Looks good. Ucucha 01:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Untitled (Jazz Musicians)

• ... that since 1995 a quintet of untitled jazz musicians has been performing near Indiana Avenue in Indianapolis?

Created by Karen Shank (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 23:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• I changed "is performing nearby the" to "has been performing near". Art LaPella (talk) 02:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Ok, I allow you to change the text. :-) Cannibaloki 03:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Cute hook, but could you tell us this is the Indiana Avenue in Indianapolis (as opposed to, say, Washington D.C.?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Case (talk • contribs) 15:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Done.--Cannibaloki 15:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. Ucucha 01:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Tom Ed McHugh

• ... that former Mayor Tom Ed McHugh of Baton Rouge is descended from a founder of Zachary in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• The article doesn't state explicitly that he was descended from the founder, and it says the possible ancestor was not a founder, but an "organizer" of Zachary. Also, the article contains some unsourced text that should be properly cited. Ucucha 01:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Davidson Seamount

• ... that Davidson Seamount is the largest seamount (underwater volcano) in the Eastern Pacific?

5x expanded by ResMar 22:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC). Nominated by ResMar at 22:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Confirmed here. Top-right corner, Under "Conservation qualities." ResMar 23:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion), date, and source for hook verified. I changed East Pacific to Western Pacific in the hook, per source given. —mattisse (Talk) 22:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

That's a mistake in the source. Davidson Seamount is located in the East not West Pacific. It's in California not in China :). ResMar 05:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Franz Baermann Steiner

• ... that Franz Baermann Steiner, whose parents were murdered in Treblinka and who later died of a heart attack in 1952 in Oxford, was called "one of Hitler's victims" by Iris Murdoch?

Created by Nishidani (talk). Nominated by Nableezy (talk) at 21:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Article was created by User:Nishidani, User:JGGardiner, User:NSH001, and myself (User:Nableezy) and was moved from userspace into articlespace at 02:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC). nableezy - 21:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the credit templates. This looks like an article with great potential, but before we promote it at DYK, could you please add references to the parts I marked with {{citation needed}}? Thanks, Ucucha 01:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

That has been addressed now. Ref. 46 is cited for his dying of a heart attack, but I can't find that in the source. Other parts of the hook verified from the sources. Ucucha 04:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Source added for cause of death. nableezy - 05:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Ucucha 05:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Tobias Van Steenburgh House

• ... that the Tobias Van Steenburgh House (pictured) was one of the few buildings in Kingston, New York, not burned by British troops under Gen. John Vaughan in 1777?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 20:50, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Willie Edouin

• ... that during his career, comic actor Willie Edouin portrayed approximately five hundred characters?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 20:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• The chosen hook should be a definitive fact, whereas this appears to be speculation. I would suggest choosing something else. Otherwise OK. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

This is what the NY Times wrote. It's not speculation, it's an estimate. I've replaced "perhaps" with "approximately", if that helps you, although the Times used the word "perhaps'. However, feel free to use any hook you like. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

One possible alt is that he appeared in Florodora in both the UK and U.S. Florodora had the most successful American run of any British show up to that time in history, as the article on that musical points out. See also http://www.lyrictheatre.org/patterpost/Florodora-PatterPost.pdf He also was one of the very few burlesque (genre) actors to make the jump to Edwardian musical comedy, although I can't prove it, but I know who all the famous burlesque actors were, and none of them had as big a career in musicals as Edouin. Like I say, if anything strikes you as more interesting than the hook above, feel free. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I did realize that it was properly sourced to The Times, but perhaps would normally mean something like "up to, maybe." If the context makes it clear they mean approximately that is fine by me. I'll let a third party make the final decision (or pick an alternative). --ThaddeusB (talk) 06:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Jacques Legrand (Mongolist)

• ... that the current president of INALCO, Jacques Legrand, was the first French ambassador to Mongolia in 1967–68?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 19:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Canfield Island Site

• ... that one of the most important discoveries at the Canfield Island Site (pictured) was charcoal?

Created by User:Nyttend (talk). Self nom (after being prodded by Ruhrfisch :-) at 15:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• ALT 1, as suggested by Ruhrfisch: "... that the Canfield Island Site (pictured) on the West Branch Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania was inhabited by Native Americans for thousands of years, and since 2003 is home to an annual Native American pow wow?" I don't think that this is as good, primarily because it's rather long; but what do you think? Nyttend (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
• ALT 2 ... that Native Americans lived at the Canfield Island Site (pictured) on the West Branch Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania for thousands of years, and now hold an annual pow wow there? Agree ALT1 is a bit long, how's this? Ruhrfisch _><>° 21:12, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

In the Room Up There

• ... that the first single from In the Room Up There, Australian band Elora Danan's debut album, was entitled "Door, Up, Elevator" and inspired by elevator music, and the etiquette that goes on in elevators?

5x expanded by Kiac (talk). Nominated by Kiac (talk) at 10:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• The article still requires expansion. The article currently is largely composed of direct quotes from the published material. As it it fine to use quotes, it should be limited and use of paraphasing should be ultilized when able. after blocking long quote article currently at 1451 prose. Calmer Waters 02:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

McQueen (surname)

• ... that the surname MacQueen/McQueen can be represented in Scottish Gaelic at least three etymologically-unrelated ways—MacCuinn, MacCuithein, and MacShuibhne?

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Source for hook is a MS Word document. Reference removed. Need Reliable third party source Calmer Waters 04:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• The website the document is hosted on is actually the website of Sabhal Mòr Ostaig (a Gaelic college in Scotland). The doc is written by Iain Mac an Tàilleir. I think this person should be considered reliable. Here's a book on Gaelic Scotland which he contributed to . His work on Gaelic place-names is hosted on the Scottish Parliament website . This link shows that he was a lecturer on the topic of Gaelic history in the Hebrides . This link (on the Scottish Parliament website) shows that he is a course lecturer at Sabhal Mòr Ostaig . This link shows that in March he was awarded two commissions by Bòrd na Gàidhlig for research into the language . This link dates from May (and is on the Bòrd na Gàidhlig website) and shows that he was commissioned to look into the level of fluency of native speakers of the language . I suspect he co-wrote the following book on learning Gaelic (as Iain Taylor): Robertson, Boyd; Taylor, Iain (2003). Teach Yourself Gaelic. Teach Yourself. So i think he should be credible for Gaelic related things; and the site the document is hosted on should be considered reliable since it is the website of a Gaelic college.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 07:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• I don't question the reliablity of the Iain Mac an Tàilleir. It is that this is a nonpublished work. There is also nothing on the document or way to verify that it could not have been produced by someone other than him. It is not a published doctoral thesis, but rather a tabled Word document with no indication of editorial oversight. As far as being housed on a college web server, many universities have such ulitities for their professors and students alike. Is there a way to present these facts from the works you have presented. Kindly Calmer Waters 07:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• OK, i see what you mean. No worries. Although, i don't think i can get a published ref to specifically say what i had intended. So this suggestion can be closed down.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 10:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Nomination withdrawn. LittleMountain5 15:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 1

Paul Jaquays

• ... that tabletop Role-playing game pioneer Paul Jaquays was also a designer for the Quake series of video games and co-founder of The Guildhall at SMU video game university?

• Comment: extensive new peer-reviewed article, also checked for correctness after creation by the subject of the article and permission obtained for infobox photo (B-class, or thereabouts, biography article rather than just a stub/start)

Created by Harami2000 (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Several problems: awards need to be referenced; article doesn't say he is a role-playing game pioneer; no citation for his being the designer of the Quake series; can't find a mention of his being a co-founder in either refs. 20 or 21; several bare URL references that need to be expanded; what makes The Escapist a reliable source? Ucucha 22:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for checking: will clarify, fix or reword accordingly. :)

1. "article doesn't say he is a role-playing game pioneer"

This whole paragraph;

"...in particular, the nascent RPG industry which led to him founding one of the early fanzines dedicated to the subject, The Dungeoneer in 1976. Being targeted specifically as a "dungeonmaster's publication", this was noteworthy for its pioneering approach to pre-factored adventures and provided an inspiration for many later such magazines, not only in the US..."

Creation of key publications and contributor in very wide design and artwork contexts in a "nascent field" = "pioneer". Dungeons & Dragons was published published 1974, Jaquays started his high profile work in 1976, the same year as the first stand-alone pre-factored adventure was published by Wee Warriors. Also, he contributed to the very first issue of Dragon (magazine) as cited. The praise quote is from Gary Gygax.

I'd preferred to leave that as "role-playing game pioneer" in the hook in order to keep that short, and let the article speak for itself as "pioneer of pre-factored adventures, role-playing game artwork, etc...." seemed to water that down /and/ suffer from verbosity along with the need to replicate that in the article, rather than a simple "pioneering approach" wording in article + context/timeframe which should be clear enough Jaquays' general "pioneer" status.

2. "no citation for his being the designer of the Quake series"

- spread out a bit thin in various links previously, but now made explicit in text and by reference to Allgame credits. Thanks. :)

3. "can't find a mention of his being a co-founder in either refs. 20 or 21"

Tab to page 3 on what was that ref.#20 = link http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/days-of-high-adventure/6847-Gaming-s-Renaissance-Man.3 ;

" Ultimately Jaquays, together with other industry professionals, shaped SMU's Guildhall Masters program in Game Development and wrote its Art Creation curriculum. "As the program launched, I became one of the founding Guildmasters - the industry face of Guildhall. I've had the honor to be on the presentation platform for all ten class graduations to date, and even gave the commencement address at one.""

4. "several bare URL references that need to be expanded"

- didn't think that was a DYK pre-requisite, just a generally "good idea" + smart if aiming to be a solid "B class" article. Thanks for the prod! Done. :)

5. "what makes The Escapist a reliable source?"

- Interview with Jaquays carried out just a few days ago, per http://jaquays.com/paul/index.html , although not stated explicitly in that article (but only on the now superseded front-page hook, IIRC). I could add an "Interview with Paul Jaquays" note somewhere in there and cross-ref his personal page to confirm but I'd need to figure out how to use the #tag pipe again to feed that into the reference

Regards, David. Harami2000 (talk) 00:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Strathcona Public Building

• ... that the Strathcona Public Building, the Edwardian Classical-style former post office and federal government building in the now-defunct city of Strathcona, Alberta, has been converted into bars and restaraunts?

Created by Kevlar67 (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Article too short at 1125 characters (needs 1500), hook too long at 211 characters (should be no more than 200), article includes bare URL references (which should have information such as title, publisher, author, and access date), and article isn't terribly well-referenced. Ucucha 00:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Schieder commission

• ... that the Schieder commission on the expulsion of Germans was headed by former Nazi Theodor Schieder, who during the Nazi era advocated "depopulating" Poland of its Jewish population?

Created by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 22:11, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Biased EEML stuff. Mailing list has agreed to selectively quote sources and worked that out with banned users. Radeksz's topic ban is already agreed on. Radeksz even posted his communication with banned users in the article . What a shitstorm. Noone should get any credit for that, it should be speedied instead. See also the discussion here. Skäpperöd (talk) 23:56, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

The article is sourced with reliable sources and neutrally written. If you got problems with it point out where. The mailing list had nothing to do with it and it didn't agree to anything - stop lying Skapperod. I knew that some would possibly object to this article so I thoroughly researched and sourced it like hell. The oversighted edit contained personal information - which is why it was OSed - which you then started copying elsewhere, engaging in a form of outting. radek (talk) 01:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

There is too much problematic backstory to this article – according to what is being discussed at the Arbcom pages, this article was at least partially the result of proxying for banned users, and the two on-wiki authors are now facing not just topic bans but possibly full site bans. POV concerns about the contents are serious: it seems quite clear that the sourcing and selection of material deliberately focussed on negative material exclusively. Given these circumstances, I would strongly recommend holding off featuring this article in any way until it has been thoroughly checked for NPOV, preferably after the Arbcom case has finally concluded. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Aside from making vague insinuations would you please make a specific criticism of the article? As in, "this sentence is wrong" or "this sentence is unsourced" or anything of that nature? Or at least have the guts to slap some tags on it. Again, every single sentence is sourced to an English language online reliable source. I could have used Polish sources (which are both plentiful and acceptable) but because I knew this was going to get silly I spent A LOT of time making sure that everything in the article could be based on online English ones. Yes, Molobo send me a few sources to help along. You're doing the "IDON'TLIKEIT" thing. How hard is it to read the darn thing, click on the online links provided in the reference section and verify that the sources say pretty much the same thing that the article says (paraphrased etc.)? It seems quite clear??? Hey, the sources are there and feel free to expand the article, I would very much appreciate it. Good luck with that. Nationalist based objections cannot hold an article captive, just like some extremist POV cannot upset consensus.radek (talk) 10:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Skapperod has now added POV tags to the article in order to torpedo this nomination. Please note that nowhere on the talk page does he actually point to anything specific that is supposed to be wrong with the article. He talks about editors, not about content. Like anyone else he is free to expand the article with reliable sources, add a tags and point out particular problems. He is not free to try and harass me by trying to tear down my articles on spurious grounds.radek (talk) 08:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

As the author of 300 new DYKs, I am pretty sure the article is neutral; I do however - in the interest of fairness - support the idea that the the article should be properly fact checked by the DYK reviewer. Fortunately, most sources are online and in English (via Google Books). I'd hope that the reviewers here will not let any wikipolitics torpedo this well-researched piece. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

See my comment on the talk page. IMHO in its current form the article is not acceptable, and some major work is probably required to bring the article up to an acceptable standard. Pantherskin (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Pantherskin raises some valid points (per my reply to him on article's talk), but I'd prefer that the final review of neutrality is done by an editor who has no prejudices regarding the parties of the EEML case. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Article currently has unresolved factual and neutrality disputes. Please resolve the concerns raised by Pantherskin on the article talk page. Ucucha 22:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Working on it.radek (talk) 09:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Anthony Morabito

• ... that Anthony Morabito was the first of thirteen West Australians drafted in the 2009 AFL Draft, when the Fremantle Football Club selected him with their first-round pick?

Created by The-Pope (talk). Nominated by The-Pope (talk) at 15:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Article currently doesn't give a source for his being the first-round pick. Ucucha 22:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Ref added.The-Pope (talk) 08:20, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Carlos Ardila Lülle

• ... that Colombian entrepreneur Carlos Ardila Lülle began his billion dollar business by developing the soft drink Postobon in 1954?

Created by Patrickneil (talk). Self nom at 17:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Hook needs inline cited within the article. The hook is also inferred from the articles prose; therefore, especially important. Also, the believe the hook would be better suited to reflect that he a now a billionare inpart from the success of this beverage. maybe:

ALT1

• ... that Colombian billionaire entrepreneur Carlos Ardila Lülle credits the development of the soft drink Postobon in 1954 for his eventual success? Calmer Waters 05:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

That works too.-- Patrick {_oѺ} 13:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• Either hook would still need an inline cite place where the citation needed tag is placed first Calmer Waters 08:14, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Shraddha Jadhav

• ... that Shraddha Jadhav, who was recently elected as the Mayor of Mumbai and chief of India's richest municipal body, is known for her "elegant dressing"?

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 16:56, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Portion of hook that is sourced offline is accepted in good faith. —mattisse (Talk) 19:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Trần Thị Dung

• ... that the last empress of the Lý Dynasty, Trần Thị Dung, married her cousin, grand chancellor Trần Thủ Độ, who was responsible for the death of her first husband Lý Huệ Tông?

Created by Grenouille vert (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Rewrote the hook. No problems. Ucucha 00:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Bruce's Beach

• ... that Bruce's Beach, which opened in the early 1910s in Manhattan Beach, California, was an African-American resort in an "otherwise lily-white community"?

Created by ChildofMidnight (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 03:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Article length, date, sourcing verified; hook also verified. Ucucha 00:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Neill Sanders

• ... that horn player Neill Sanders commuted from Kalamazoo, Michigan, to London to play his part in the Melos Ensemble?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, the hook is not in the article. The hook needs to be visible in the article and sourced. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 20:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Does the hook have to appear in the article in the same words? Article says: "Neill Sanders returned to London every year to play until 1979." The reference from Kalamazoo says: "After the war, Neill played for many years with the legendary hornist Dennis Brain in the Philharmonia. It was during this time that Neill became the hornist of the Melos Ensemble of London. He also formed a friendship with Benjamin Britten and was hornist for the Aldeburgh Festival. After coming to America in 1970 to teach at Western Michigan University, Neill continued his ties with the London music scene, returning every year to play. However, this became increasingly difficult, and when he gave up this long-distance commute, he decided to form an ensemble similar to Melos here in Michigan." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• It doesn't have to be in the article in the same words, but the ideas of the hook should be. In this article, I don't read that he went to London to play in the Melos Ensemble. Ucucha 00:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Army of Flanders

• ... that the Army of Flanders (Siege of Breda (1624) pictured) was the longest standing army in early modern history, operating from 1567 to 1706?

Created by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 21:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• The article says "early modern period", so is that what you meant to say? Or did you mean to compare the Army of Flanders to the U.S. Army for instance? Art LaPella (talk) 02:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

No I meant early modern, just trying to shorted it. (Isnt the US army longer standing that the Army of Flanders? Reworded it to say Early modern history.)--Coldplay Expért 02:56, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• I linked early modern period to clarify what the article was referring to. Article length, date, and sourcing check out. I think this should be a lead hook in view of its quality and historical importance (though I may be biased there :-) ), so I added an image. Ucucha 00:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Nankai megathrust earthquakes, 1854 Ansei-Tōkai earthquake, 1854 Ansei-Nankai earthquake

• ... that in 1854 the southern coast of Honshu, Japan, was hit by tsunamis caused by two great megathrust earthquakes on December 24 and 25?

• Comment: Nankai megathrust earthquakes 5x expanded, the other two created

5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Nominated by Mikenorton (talk) at 21:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Could you add references to the section about tectonic background in the Nankai megathrust article? Otherwise, no problems here. Ucucha 00:43, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• Done! Mikenorton (talk) 09:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Oseberg oil field

• ... that the development of the Oseberg oil field is one of the significant milestones in the creation of of Norway's oil and gas industry?

5x expanded by Tuscumbia (talk) and User:Mikenorton (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 21:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I belive that the article has had major expansions but It may not be exactly X5. If not then Ill withdraw the nom. (Also for author I put the creator of the article not the person who made the expansion, User:Tuscumbia.--Coldplay Expért 21:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

How come you credited the initial creator and not the expander? The creator had written exactly a single sentence, without any references. Manxruler (talk) 02:04, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I changed it to Tuscumbia.--Coldplay Expért 02:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Not quite a 5x expansion. On August 3 it was 1736 characters. 5 x 1736 = 8680. However, the article on December 5 = 6956 characters. So it is about 80% there. —mattisse (Talk) 20:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• I make it 8706 characters now (using recently installed DYK check), so hopefully that's OK. Mikenorton (talk) 23:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

No problems here. Ucucha 00:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Pub Golf

• ... that Boston, MA, holds an annual Pub Golf event that has grown and climbed to over 1400 participants per year?

Created by Sdawg5k (talk). Nominated by Wlshmj (talk) at 21:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Hardly referenced and not written with an encyclopedic tone. Ucucha 00:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Shey Monastery

• ... that the Shakyamuni Buddha (pictured) of Shey Monastery is believed to be the second largest such statue in the northern Indian region of Ladakh?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Redtigerxyz (talk) . Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 20:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Picture changed, IMO File:Shey palace Shakyamuni buddha.jpg looks better. --Redtigerxyz 14:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. Ucucha 01:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Cutts-Madison House

• ... that arsonists set fire to the Cutts-Madison House (pictured) in Washington, D.C., while Dolley Madison was living there?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook verified while AGF for offline references. Image verified as public domain Calmer Waters 02:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The QI Book of the Dead

• ... that according to The QI Book of the Dead, the fourth QI tie-in book, everyone alive in the world today is related to both Confucius and Nefertiti?

5x expanded by ISD (talk). Nominated by ISD (talk) at 13:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Everyone alive is obviously distantly related, because we are all descended from the first Homo sapiens and from the first microorganisms. The article makes the stronger claim that Confucius and Nefertiti are our ancestors, so should we use that? Art LaPella (talk) 02:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• From the wording of the article, I don't think it's claiming that Nefertiti and Confucius are our physical ancestors, rather that they are our predecessors. I agree that the "related" claim is trivially true; perhaps we could use something along the lines of:

• ALT1: ... that according to The QI Book of the Dead, Jeremy Bentham wondered whether that is all there is?

• In agreement with the chapter title. Ucucha 02:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• For what it's worth, Confucius and Nefertiti as our physical ancestors turns out to be an Internet meme. Art LaPella (talk) 06:04, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

What about a different hook:

• ALT2: ... that The QI Book of the Dead incorrectly states that Lord Shelburne was British Prime Minster, rather than First Lord of the Treasury?

• Does that work better? ISD (talk) 08:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

umm...according to his article he was Prime Minister 1782-83. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Only de facto - the title "Prime Minister" back at the time was not the official title. It was sometimes used as an insult, but Shelburne would never refer to himself as Prime Minister. "First Lord of the Treasury" would have been his official title. The first person to use "Prime Minister" as their official title was Henry Campbell-Bannerman, who came to power a century after Shelburne died. This formed a subject in the television version of QI in Series C. ISD (talk) 07:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Point taken, but it surely wouldn't make a good hook given that WP describes him as PM in his own article and in other articles such as List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Very well, what about this:

• ALT3: ... that amongst the 68 people featured in The QI Book of the Dead are included Ada Lovelace, Epicurus, Colette, Dawn Langley Simmons and Buckminster Fuller?

• Is this acceptable? ISD (talk) 13:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Atlantic torpedo

• ... that the Atlantic torpedo (pictured) can produce an electric shock of up to 220 volts, and was the namesake of the naval weapon?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 09:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• The hook is taken entirely from the existing article on the genus Torpedo. Can we get a hook specific to this species? Mangoe (talk) 14:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• The information is specific to this species. Just because it's mentioned on another article (which hasn't even appeared on DYK) does not change this fact. -- Yzx (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you saying that the "torpedo weapon" is named after the torpedo genus? If so then Mangoe is right, your hook does not make this point but implies it is named after the Atlantic Torpedo. Victuallers (talk) 22:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

No, there are multiple sources stating that Fulton named the torpedo specifically in reference to T. nobiliana. In addition to the source I already provided, it is also stated in Compton-Hall's The Submarine Pioneers (1999) and Coombe's Gunsmoke Over the Atlantic (2002). -- Yzx (talk) 01:07, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Sedgeford Torc

• ... that the terminals of the gold Sedgeford Torc were cast using the lost wax method and are decorated in the La Tène style?

Created by Princess Venetia di Cannoli (talk). Self nom at 09:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Suggest ALT1:... that the missing terminal of the golden Sedgeford Torc was found thirty-nine years after the original discovery of the artefact? Mangoe (talk) 14:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• What an excellent alternative suggestion, my dear. I do like, it is so much more punchy than mine. Clever Mr or Miss Mangoe. I have taken the liberty of changing the spelling of "artifact" to my preferred British English version of "artefact".
• Princess Venetia di Cannoli (talk) 10:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 30

Constance of Greater Poland

• ... that the marriage of Constance of Greater Poland to Conrad, Margrave of Brandenburg-Stendal failed to bring the expected peace between the Brandenburg and Greater Poland rulers?

Created by Aldebaran69 (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 21:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Looks mostly good, but there should be references for a few uncited sentences in this article. Ucucha 22:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Notified creator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Polish-Ottoman alliance

• ... that the relations between the kingdom of Poland–Lithuania and the Ottoman Empire relations can be described as a series of treaties, punctuated by periods of conflict?

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 21:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Sourcing is generally good and article length and date are verified, but the hook doesn't really reflect the content of the article in my view (war in the 15th century, alliance in the 16th century, war in the late 16th century, treaty in 1617, war again in 1620). I prefer:

• ALT1: ... that Poland–Lithuania and the Ottoman Empire signed a "perpetual" peace in 1533?

• This is in ref. 3. Ucucha 22:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Text says peace, not alliance; I am not happy with the use of the word alliance in this article (see talk); so I'd suggest avoiding it and using the words treaty or peace instead. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the proposed rename. I changed the wording in ALT1 to "peace", which agrees with the article and source. Ucucha 22:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Motor coordination

• ... that motor coordination enables our movements to be done smoothly but rarely allows the same movement to be done in exactly the same way?

5x expanded by Skonduru3 (talk). Nominated by LittleHow (talk) at 13:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• It is a 5X fold expansion from an article that had most of its content split off in May 8 2009 to form the more appropriate Internal models (where it remains). It is only a 5x expansion from the text which was not split off. I am not sufficiently sure of the rules (and their interpretation) whether this does or does not disqualify it.--LittleHow (talk) 18:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Length and date are good enough, as it's well over 5x expanded from the text before November 30. However, there are several unsourced paragraphs that should have a reference. Ucucha 19:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    • Checked over the referencing and put links to online sources.--LittleHow (talk) 09:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Saint-Michel-des-Saints, Quebec

• ... that Saint-Michel-des-Saints, named in honour of Michael de Sanctis, is the largest and northern-most municipality in the Lanaudière region of Quebec, Canada?

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Date and length verified. Since the sources are in french, would need you to place a inline cite that verifies the fact in the hook at the end of the sentence (part that states it is the largest and northern-most municipality). Calmer Waters 15:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Neither of the references given makes this claim. The first reference is just stats, and the only superlative in the second reference is that it is the geographically largest municipality in Quebec. This is also hinging on the technical definition of "municipality", as maps show two settlements that are further north. Also, the region in question is one of the southernmost in Quebec. Perhaps the size hook would be more interesting? Mangoe (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

NEADS/Dogs for Deaf and Disabled Americans

• ... that the first dog placed with an Afghanistan war veteran by the NEADS/Dogs for Deaf and Disabled Americans Canines for Combat Veterans Program was trained by a prison inmate at the Northeast Correctional Center?

Created by--Lisaanimal (talk) 17:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC) Self nom at 17:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that NEADS/Dogs for Deaf and Disabled Americans relies on help from inmates from 13 New England correctional facilities to train many of its assistance dogs?--Lisaanimal (talk) 19:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Not a 5x expansion. Was 3119 characters on November 17 and 3685 characters on December 1. —mattisse (Talk) 19:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Maurice Clemmons

• ... that Maurice Clemmons was released on bail one week before he allegedly shot four police officers to death in Lakewood, Washington?

Created by Grundle2600 (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 07:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• All set. I think you should get DYKmake credit for this, as Grundle2600 only created a redirect. Ucucha 20:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Trần Thủ Độ

• ... that under the pressure of grand chancellor Trần Thủ Độ, Trần Liễu had to give up his pregnant wife for the Emperor Trần Thái Tông who was his younger brother?

5x expanded by Grenouille vert (talk). Nominated by Grenouille vert (talk) at 03:59, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Was 2145 b, is 9457 b, so only a 4.41x expansion. It'll need a little more text. Ucucha 20:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• I've just expanded a little bit, would you mind check the article one more time? Thank you for your notice! Grenouille vert (talk) 05:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Bobby Simpson (Louisiana politician)

• ... that former Baton Rouge Mayor-President Bobby Simpson worked through the Samaritan Initiative to place the chronic homeless in his city into permanent housing?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that then Baton Rouge Mayor-President Bobby Simpson helped to organize the task force that in 2003 caught suspected serial killer Derrick Todd Lee?

Neither of the hooks is in the article: it states that he worked to end homelessness and endorsed the Samaritan Initiative, but not that he worked through the SI to end homelessness; and there is no indication either in the article or the source that the task force itself caught Lee. In fact, it's rather unlikely, as the guy was caught in Atlanta. As a replacement, I suggest:

• ALT2: ... that former Baton Rouge Mayor-President Bobby Simpson worked to end chronic homelessness in his city?

This is supported by ref. 9. Ucucha 20:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

O.K. that change is fine.Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

St George's Church, Worthing

• ... that St George's Church, Worthing (pictured) established three mission chapels in the town, including a tiny hut jokingly known as "The Cathedral"?

• Comment: There is a pic of the hut, but as it's now somebody's garage (!) I haven't included it here for Main Page consideration.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• I added a picture of the church instead; feel free to strike it if you prefer not to include it. Article length, date, and sourcing verified, as is the fact of the hook (partially in good faith, partially from the online sources). Ucucha 20:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Koshare Indian Dancers

• ... that the Koshare Indian Dancers are a Boy Scouts of America Scout troop that travels the world promoting the study and appreciation of American Indian culture through Indian dances?

Created by Nickeyrc (talk). nom by Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) at 17:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Currently has maintenance templates on it, including a merge suggestion. Ucucha 21:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Removed the bot one, never saw one like that before. Tabled the merge suggestion. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 06:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Trần Quốc Khang, Trần Liễu

• ... that although he was the first prince of Trần emperor Trần Thái Tông, Trần Quốc Khang was actually a son of the emperor's elder brother Trần Liễu?

Created by Grenouille vert (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Rewrote the hook for clarity. No problems with both articles. Ucucha 21:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Water supply and sanitation in Morocco

• ... that only 13% of Moroccan wastewater undergoes any sort of treatment?

Created by Mschiffler (talk). Nominated by Circeus (talk) at 14:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Correction: "wastewaters" should be singular; ie, "... only 13% of Morroccan wastewater undergoes ..." -M.Nelson (talk) 20:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC) Fixed -M.Nelson (talk) 14:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Date and length (35+Kb) verified. Fact is stated 3 times in the article; yet, is not inline sourced after the fact per rules. After this is addressed should be good to go Calmer Waters 16:07, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Chili Line

• ... that the Chili Line was the southernmost portion of the Denver and Rio Grande Railway's planned 2,400-mile (3,900 km) narrow gauge railroad to Mexico City to be built?

Created by TheCatalyst31 (talk), Synchronism (talk). Self nom at 11:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hook is currently not clearly stated in the article. Otherwise, looks good. Ucucha 21:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I rewrote a passage to better address the point of the hook.Synchronism (talk) 23:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 29

Tord Asle Gjerdalen

• ... that Tord Asle Gjerdalen twice rejected offers for a spot on the Norwegian cross-country skiing national team, due to time-comsuming medicine studies?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Norwegian language source for hook accepted in good faith. —mattisse (Talk) 18:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

British Motorcycle Charitable Trust

• ... that the current Chairman of the British Motorcycle Charitable Trust is John Kidson, former Isle of Man TT Formula 3 World Champion?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article does not establish notability, as it does not give sources independent of the subject (currently, the only sources are the Trust's website and a report it submitted to the Charity Commission). Also, the source does not mention of the Isle of Man in the text about John Kidson (which is under "About Us"). Ucucha 19:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

•  Done I have added a specific ref to the IOM TT web site which is a definitive independent source and also from the book The Magic of the TT by Haynes Publishing (where it states on page 280 that not only did Kidson win but also achieved the fastest lap) plus I added a ref to their eduucational work. Thanks Thruxton (talk) 07:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Sathyavani Muthu

• ... that Sathyavani Muthu was one of the first two non-Congress members from Tamil Nadu to serve as a Union Minister in India?

5x expanded by CarTick (talk). Nominated by CarTick (talk) at 02:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. However, I cannot find the source information in the citation given. Could you point it out? Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 18:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The citation says "It (admk) was the first Dravidian party to join power actively when its representatives Satyavani Muthu and Bala Pazhanoor were inducted into the Charan Singh ministry three decades ago in 1979." In Tamil Nadu politics, non-congress parties are all Dravidian parties and in 1979, ADMK became the first non congress Tamil Nadu party to join the Union Government. ergo. Satyavani Muthu and Bala Pazhanoor are the first two non INC members from TN to serve as an Union Ministers in India--Sodabottle (talk) 18:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Sodabottle said it right. I dont think it is Original research to make that conclusion. but, if you are not convinced, i propose this alternative hook.. --CarTick 03:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT ... that Sathyavani Muthu was one of the first two Dravidian party members from Tamil Nadu to serve as a Union Minister in India?

Articles created/expanded on November 28

Cut-throat Records

• ... that Canadian musician Nash the Slash's Cut-throat Records label has existed since 1978?

Created by A Knight Who Says Ni (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

• I realize this isn't a great hook. Any suggestions? --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 03:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

• Do you have a reliable source for the statement about the name of the record label? (Specifically, the part that says "Nash claims the label name was inspired by his observation that the record industry is a cut-throat business...") That would make a good hook, if sourced. --Orlady (talk) 21:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
• Upon further examination, I think the article is seriously lacking in reliable sources. Regardless of what hook is proposed, the article will require substantial cleanup before it will be accepted for DYK. --Orlady (talk) 19:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm okay if it's withdrawn from consideration. The quote is remembered from a newspaper interview read around 1980. If only we had known back then there would someday be a Misplaced Pages, and saved clippings of interest for future citation... P.S., thank you for your helpful edits, it's appreciated. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 27

Eric Wood

• ... that American football player Eric Wood finished his collegiate career with 49 consecutive starts at center, the second-longest streak in Louisville history behind Travis Leffew?

5x expanded by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion, date Ok. Hook doesn't mention the country and sport and is unreferenced in the article. Also (mostly) unreferenced are sections College career and High-school career. Materialscientist (talk) 06:53, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 26

Providence Grays all-time roster

• ... that William Edward White may have been the first African-American to play Major League Baseball when he appeared in one game for the 1879 Providence Grays?

5x expanded by Neonblak (talk). Nominated by Neonblak (talk) at 17:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• I haven't looked at the article.. but Did you know that something may have been? Doesn't really seem the right kind of hook to me. I don't know what others think? I'd personally prefer a more solid hook. Harrias (talk) 09:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I thought it would be a good hook to get people interested in the subject, but the information is not conclusive at the moment, hopefully this will get resolved in the future and then it would be a great hook for his article. An alternative hook is posted below.Neonblak - 17:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• ... that Paul Hines is the only player to have played in each of the Providence Grays Major League Baseball franchise's eight seasons?

Bill Keith (Louisiana politician)

• ... that former Louisiana State Senator Bill Keith authored a creation science law that was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1987 case Edwards v. Aguillard?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hook sentence unreferenced. Had a quick look around to see if I could find one elsewhere in your article, but I couldn't, please cite. Harrias (talk) 09:37, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

See Notes 11 and 12Billy Hathorn (talk) 11:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT ... that a Shreveport city commissioner once ordered the planting of narcotics in the vehicle of investigative reporter Bill Keith, later a Louisiana state senator?

2009 Barack Obama visit to China

File:Voa obamao.JPG

• ... that during Barack Obama's 2009 visit to China there was Chinese merchandise with the name of "Obamao"?

Created by . Benjwong. Nominated by 04:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

• In the hook, articles need to be linked to and the article the DYK is focusing on should be bolded. In the article itself, the particular fact isn't referenced. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: As the signature wasn't filled out completely, the nominator was User:Arilang1234 (talk). ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hilarious image, but the image can't PD-self because it is not an original work of the phogographer. Fair use image could not be used for DYK hook--Caspian blue 04:16, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

The image is VOA image, is in the Public Domain, you can check the VOA website. Arilang 15:23, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

The image may be taken by the VOA writer with the PD license, but does not own the original copyright of the roadside merchandise. The photo is a derivative work of 2D art, so can not be in PD. That is what I'm talking about.--Caspian blue 00:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you are wrong, Caspian blue, anyone can take a photo of Mona Lisa(so to speak) and upload it into commons. The "art work" may not be PD, but the "photo" is PD. Arilang 01:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• I've stricken out my note above, as the link has been fixed and references have been added. Now it just needs to be re-evaluated for any other problems or be approved. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

• The article is now at AfD. LittleMountain5 18:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 25

Gregory Tarver

• ... that funeral home owner Gregory Tarver was named "Black Leader of the Year" in Shreveport in 1983, when he was first elected to the Louisiana State Senate?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

• Source says he was first elected in 1996, and does not mention Shreveport in connection to the "Black Leader of the Year" title. Ucucha 20:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

State Senator (1984 to date); elected in fall 1983. See notes 1 and 2. Black Leader of the Year was in 1983, when he had yet to become a state official; it is implied that it was in Shreveport and not elsewhere.Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the implication, and how is the enlou.com source credible when it doesn't even get the date of his election into the Senate right? Ucucha 03:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the 1996 date on enlou is wrong. It is 1984. The state source I listed shows it as 1984.Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT: ... that Shreveport businessman Gregory Tarver is the first African American to have served as a state senator from Caddo Parish since Reconstruction?

ALT2: ... that prior to his election as a state senator, businessman Gregory Tarver was the first African American to have served on the reconstituted Shreveport City Council?

Neither is in the article. Ucucha 23:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles for December 11 (and following days) – Hanukkah

A Rugrats Chanukah

• ... that the Rugrats episode "A Rugrats Chanukah" was pitched to the series crew by Nickelodeon in 1992?

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

• Lengths and hook facts OK (AGF on offline sources; citations are to RS sources). It's an interesting article. I wonder if the hook could be made more interesting by revising it to say "... that although the Rugrats episode "A Rugrats Chanukah" was pitched to the series crew by Nickelodeon in 1992, it was not produced until 1996?" --Orlady (talk) 03:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• That one does sound better. Consider that my ALT1. The Flash 02:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Uninvolved tick for Orlady's Alt hook, it is an improvement on the original and the facts check out. Maedin\ 12:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for December 25 – Christmas Day

A Dog Named Christmas

• ... that the 2009 television movie A Dog Named Christmas was based on a novel by Greg Kincaid, who said his family hated the story when he originally wrote it?

Created by Rej5y7 (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 06:13, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date, source, and hook verified. LittleMountain5 00:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Peace Candle

• ... that former heavyweight boxing champion Larry Holmes expects this year to light the Peace Candle (pictured), a candle-like structure erected every Christmas season in Easton, Pennsylvania?

• Comment: I've never done a DYK for a special occasion date, so sorry if I've handled it wrong at all. Please note, Holmes is supposed to flip the switch on November 27, so I figure after that time I can change it to past tense. Does that work? If not, I can come up with an alt, but I'll be gone for the next three or four days for the holiday, so I can handle it when I get back...

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:45, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date, sources, image, and hook all check out. Changing to past tense tomorrow sounds good to me. LittleMountain5  18:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation

• ... that the swing group Big Bad Voodoo Daddy (pictured) performed music for the Phineas and Ferb special "Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation"?

• Comment: Seeing that Jerk de Soleil thing on DYK this morning, and the fact that we finally have a future episode of this show with actual press coverage beforehand, is a great opportunity. It was either this, or saying that they think its going to be a holiday classic.

Created by ViperSnake151 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook verified. I'm saving this one for December 25 (Christmas Day) hooks. MuZemike 18:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

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