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Mc/Mac

It occurs to me that you might be able to contribute to this ref desk discussion: ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand the question tbh. Is he asking where the specific name McQueen comes from, or is he asking where Mc/Mac comes from. I know nothing about the first, but if he meant the second, my initial reaction was that there was no real significance as to whether you were a Mc or a Mac in terms of etymology (although I couldn't remember why tbh), and that the Scottish/Irish explanation is tosh. IIRC, the only thing that really mattered was what came after the mc/mac part. The top Google result from m'learned friend Ewan J. Innes I then found seems to agree, so that's my answer. MickMacNee (talk) 19:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Wii Fit Girl

It clearly is a completely different article, with 100% original content. It has a huge response section, and it addresses every single assertion that the article has no standing to exist. To address each one:

• "Misplaced Pages is not news, or an indiscriminate collection of information. Merely being in the news does not imply someone should be the subject of an encyclopedia entry. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article." - She is a spokesperson for EA Sports Active, she appeared on the Tyra Banks Show, TRL, was a participant on a show along with famous fitness celebrities, has inspired many offshoots, has received response from noted "viral marketing" experts and other journalists, response from Nintendo, has been sued over the video, the plaintiff being interviewed by Fox News, etc. It is blatantly evident that she is notable for more than just a YouTube video.
• "There are about 30 news pieces about her (one more about another person) per Gnews. All related to the one event about her youtube video, doing hula hoop motions on the Wii Fit, dressed in t-shirt and panties, filmed and posted by her boyfriend, without her knowing, over 8 million views." - The article clearly establishes that her notoriety has grown beyond a video, though the video is clearly the trampoline into these other ventures and news.
• The only reason it was deleted is because no one who actually knew the actual history and events of this person noticed the AfD. If you honestly believe that her notability is based solely on the YouTube video, then you aren't looking hard enough.

I will still file DRV, but will also point out that requiring a DRV for THIS situation is the definition of bureaucrazy . - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 06:07, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Believe it or not I have no strong feelings about the article (I only created the redirect and found about about the Afd when I went looking for her a while ago, having known she had an article at one point, and seeing it had infact been deleted well after the event (incident was early 2008, Afd was June 2009). But seeing you recreate it, I know someone will definitely CSD it at some point, so the only way to ensure long term survival if you really want the article to stay, is to overturn the original Afd via DRV, per your above arguments. I suggest if you do want it to stay though, it definitely needs work, as currently, the refs are unformatted, and it is definitely a hard read. I'd say it has a chance, but I myself wouldn't bother though, the BLP activists have DRV in their pocket, and the only thing they will see is that it is an article about a living person who has been 'harmed' by Misplaced Pages by having a bio written about her, and vote delete because this is a concept they absolutely cannot bear. They won't bother themselves to consider how she has apparently embraced it, and has (maybe) developed notability beyond oneevent and allow that to be properly debated. MickMacNee (talk) 19:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

The references being unformatted doesn't have anything to do with notability, though. And she clearly isn't upset by the subject, by the fact that she embraces it . - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I already said I don't care either way, the above is only advice and information. As long as you take the article to DRV, which is the right thing to do, I have no other strong feelings on the matter. MickMacNee (talk) 21:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

flight 253

Why remove this sourced information?

Abdulmutallab travelled to Yemen in August of 2009 to study Arabic, and in October had cut off contact with his family. His worried father reported his disappearance and "extreme religious views" to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria on November 17. As a result, Abdulmutallab's name was added to the U.S.'s central international terrorist database, but not to shorter search-before-boarding and no-fly lists, and a two-year U.S multi-entry visa granted to him in 2008, was not revoked. Several reports of pre-attack intelligence linked Abdulmutallab to Anwar al-Awlaki, a Yemen-based, senior al-Qaeda member who was also linked to three of the 9/11 hijackers and may have helped to radicalize and motivate the Fort Hood shooter. Reports also indicated the U.S. had received intelligence regarding a planned attack by a Yemeni-based Nigerian man. Abdulmutallab trained at Al-Qaeda camps in Yemen where Awlaki was one of his trainers, the imam who personally blessed the attack, and is believed to have helped plan the attack.

Bachcell (talk) 22:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I only removed the last line . The rest was just moved. Please read wp:lede - if you want to add sourced information to the article, add it to the main article sections (and please format the citations properly, see Template:Cite). Al-Qaeda and Yemen are already more than adequately covered in the lede, which is a summary. MickMacNee (talk) 22:33, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

ITN for 2010 Togo national football team bus attack

On 9 January 2010, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article 2010 Togo national football team bus attack, which you created. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the candidates page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 13:31, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Refuge (United Kingdom charity)

On January 16, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Refuge (United Kingdom charity), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Darts

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Darts. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(ل)ˀ Contribs. 03:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

MfD nomination of Misplaced Pages:Petition against IAR abuse

Misplaced Pages:Petition against IAR abuse, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Petition against IAR abuse and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Misplaced Pages:Petition against IAR abuse during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. — Coffee // have a cup // ark // 03:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

The kittens thank you.

I might not always agree with your methods, but I have to compliment you for this. Thanks for taking the petition in good humor.  :-) —David Levy 04:02, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

This is the first kitten ever posted on my talk page. For that feat alone I say thanks!. MickMacNee (talk) 04:39, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter

The Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter Issue 2 (January 2010) Previous issue | Next issue

Content

Hello

Hi, kinda confused cause I just delivered the above newsletter to you. Who you were referring too when you wrote: "You are no leader, you're incompetent."

If it was Berian he is a ARS member too.

Regardless of who this comment was addressed to, could you please strike or remove it? Thank you. Ikip _{an olympic medallist for f**k's sake} 03:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

• Does this make it any clearer? It certainly wasn't directed at Berian, but I guess you only see these things on the second look... MickMacNee (talk) 03:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

ANI

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#MickMacNee. Vyvyan Basterd (talk) 04:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey MickMacNee. I think it would help out a lot if you would "tweak" your comment a little. I know emotions are running high on that issue and obviously I won't be blocking anyone :) and I understand where you're coming from, but I think your comment is a little over the top. Bearian is a pretty nice fellow. He just doesn't agree with you on this issue. I don't either. You can call me names though, I'm used to it. ;) Cheers. Have a good weekend. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:58, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Where are people getting this idea this was directed at Bearian? I am right now, totally confused. MickMacNee (talk) 05:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm a poor diff reader I guess. I'm still not sure exactly who the comment is directed at. Anyway, take care and have a good weekend. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

MickMacNee, activate your email, I need to explain what is going on, and how to help you.

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		The Defender of the Wiki may be awarded to those who have gone above and beyond to prevent Misplaced Pages from being used for fraudulent purposes. This barnstar is awarded to MickMacNee, for the wonderful idea of this: Misplaced Pages:Petition against Ignore All Rules abuse. Ikip 00:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

?. MickMacNee (talk) 00:41, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, if you want to talk, you know were to find me. I did my best to close down the ANI I accidentally inspired. Ikip 05:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Moving my comments

I am not going to edit war with you, but please do not move my comments. "precedence" is not something we run Misplaced Pages on and you don't have the option of removing anything that disagrees with your point from a page you started. Chillum 16:19, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

It is not a talk page, I am not barred from moving your comments at all if they are not supposed to be there. I'll take the established precedence for petitions on Misplaced Pages in the absence of any other official or consensus direction, unless or until you want to demonstrate otherwise. MickMacNee (talk) 16:25, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Just don't move my comments in the future. Chillum 17:19, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't put them where you shouldn't, and I won't. MickMacNee (talk) 17:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Who are you to decide which comment go where? Who put you in charge? Chillum 17:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

WP:CONSENSUS, and WP:TALK, and WP:CLUE, and whatever else that helps you see this complaint for what it is, unless or until, et cetera et cetera, as above. MickMacNee (talk) 17:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your productive response. Please do not move my comments in the future. Chillum 18:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Please do not repeat yourself unnecessarily on my talk page. That orange bar gets quite irritating when it is abused. MickMacNee (talk) 18:19, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

mick, try to bring down the conversation a little, please. Ikip 17:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

UEFA Europa League

I didn't want to revert again without talking to you, but I doubt anyone wants to expand that section since that tag has been there for more than two years. And besides, nothing's stopping someone who is interested in making a section like that from doing so, i'm just looking to make the article a little cleaner in the meantime. Doc Quintana (talk) 02:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

You can't be sure nobody wants to do it. Somebody might come and expand it tomorrow. I might even dot it. We most certainly do no go around removing cleanup/improvement tags from articles to make articles look 'cleaner', that's simply absurd. If you want to make it cleaner, you should expand the section and remove the tag, that would be the true Misplaced Pages way to do it. MickMacNee (talk) 02:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The odds of someone coming are fairly small given the time frame it's been there, if someone wanted to expand it by now they probably would have. I would equally posit that no one person is the authority on the "true wikipedia way" to do things given the collaborative nature of this project. However, i'd be happy to help you expand it if you do start on it tomorrow. Doc Quintana (talk) 02:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Odds have nothing to do with it. And tbh, I'd be amazed, truly amazed, if you could ever show there is any kind of consensus that this kind of 'cleaning' is desirable. MickMacNee (talk) 11:34, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd also be amazed if there was a consensus otherwise given the lack of interest in expanding that section. So, are you ready to expand that section? Doc Quintana (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

If you think you would be amazed, prove it. Otherwise, stop wasting my goddam time. MickMacNee (talk) 17:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I see no need to prove it to you. If you're not interested in expanding the article, i'll assume nobody is and remove the tag again. I would also ask that you improve your demeanor. Doc Quintana (talk) 17:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Get fucked. MickMacNee (talk) 17:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:MickMacNee. Doc Quintana (talk) 17:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

January 2010

1. Washington Times December 29, 2009 Awlaki personally blessed Detroit attack "personally blessed in Yemen" according to intelligence official familiar with interrogation