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You mistake my edit. I removed one of the sentences listing the nonsignificant HE analyses because I didn't think they needed to be listed twice in the same paragraph, in other words I removed one of the citations to the HE analyses as being redundant. If you'd prefer to replace the direct quote and remove the paraphrase, I have no objection, but they shouldn't both be in there.
The other sentence I removed didn't accurately reflect the subanalysis (the result of the subanalysis was nonsignificant) so I took it out. Will explain further on the article talk. Woonpton (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, I see what the problem is. If they are really referring to the HE analyses, as the context implies, then they've misrepresented their own research in the summary, since none of the subanalyses in the HE meta-analyses were significant. There was a subanalysis in a different meta-analysis (TM vs NT) but that one went the other direction: the meta-analysis was nonsignificant but when they dropped out the short term trial and did the analysis only on the two longer term studies, then there was a significant effect, but only for DBP, not SBP. So whichever analysis they meant, the statement in the article, whether a direct quote or not, is inaccurate with respect to the actual analysis. I agree, the PMR thing looks weird stuck on the end there. I take it you would prefer to just reinstate the whole quoted paragraph from the results summary. Go ahead. While I feel helpless to fix most of what's wrong with these articles, I felt fine about removing an inaccuracy, but if the inaccuracy is a direct quote from the researchers, then I guess there's nothing I can do. I would guess, from reading both the abstract and this research summary, that the abstracts and summaries weren't written by the researchers themselves but by someone less familiar with the data (as a researcher who has done work for the federal government, this doesn't surprise me). Woonpton (talk) 20:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
self harm
Self Harm might make DSM V the only problem is that DSM wants to refer to it as self injury not self harm. This could make things interesting.DSM5 page proposal to include self injury --Guerillero | My Talk 02:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks have commented on this.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
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hey my name is raphia and i wanted to have my own wikipedia please can you tell me what to do if you can email me at raphia125@live.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.215.246 (talk) 23:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry not sure. I think Wikia offers Wikis.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:25, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
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Yo, Doc. About the articles you are reviewing on at the Sweeps, when are you gonna finish your GARs? I'm not trying to rush you or anything, but you had those reviews up for a while. GamerPro64 (talk) 19:04, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, Doc, I added my opinion on Good Samaritan law and I hope it can help with the reassessment. GamerPro64 (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey Doc, I just want to let you know that User:Jclemens wants to know why you delisted Good Samaritan law at the GAR. GamerPro64 (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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Chronic pelvic pain
Hi Doc, you deleted the wiki med banner with this edit. Did you mean to do that? I was going to add it back but thought that I would check with you first. Looks like the TM arbcom is going to be accepted, good luck.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 21:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thank you for the heads up
My name is Michele and in 2002 my husband who said he was going to quit drinking started putting vodka in his odell cans he would have me get him. For years his legs were always blochy pink and white. Dr always told him it was ok. then the day before he passed he had pain in his right back just around the waist and was sick. but he refused to go in said he would beging of the next week. on sunday morning I found him still alive outside passed out. he was a smoker and he did it outside. so I woke him up and went back into the house when he finally came in he was like a zombie but i will never forget the look in his eyes like he new this was it. so he proceeded to the living room laid down with a blank over him and the new puppy on his chest and fell asleep watching the packers. to be honest i didnt really he was drunk even though he had gotten in that zombie state before. I did know something was wrong so I called his step-mom a nurse and she had to yell at me first before checking on him. in that 15 min he had a massive corinary. we pulled him to the floor and started cpr and I called the paramedics. they shocked him 18 times in the house it would go back to sinus the right back to v-tac they kept shocking him to the er prob another 20 times they said and 2 hrs later they finally pronounced him gone. His blood aclohol was 0.47 atreatic and 0.37 ventious.
I just want people to know alcohol can kill you several differant ways not just car accidents and surrossous of the liver ( I know I spelled that wrong sorry) .
That is it. I really have been doing a lot of thinking about this and I just dont know where to start. Everyone has heard alcohol is a killer but they always think ya when I am old and gray so who cares. 38 is not old and gray. Got any ideas, Doc
Thanks for listening!
MicheleMichelegolladay 06:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelegolladay (talk • contribs)
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Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories#Viral causes of autism, CFS, etc.
Hello. I thank you for your comment on this section. I was wondering if you would like to update it in the light of the following post. My reasons for asking this are:
- All the editors involved with this issue would agree with everything that you say. So whilst your comment is appropriate, it unfortunately doesn't help us discriminate on our views.
- This relates to an article about an institute which has been founded to carry out mainstream research etc. and that has already published (with the NCI and Cleveland Clinic) a major paper in Science on an aspect of XMRV research. XMRV is still a new field and all the related papers focus on presenting primary research. (I do know where some authors make secondary comments on earlier papers, but do so to set their own primary research in context). Also many of the finding are inconsistent (one paper finds XMRV in prostate tumours; another fails to find ...) So if we are going to exclude all primary research then we therefore need to remove all articles relating to XRMV. If we decide to cover XMRV then we have to accept that we will need to include some limited and balanced synopsis of the relevant Pubmed cited primary papers appropriate to the scope of their content.
- The original poster asserts that a set of editors are promoting fringe ideas and has therefore made significant edits to an article against the consensus citing this discussion as one of her justifications. My point on the discussion topic was that this was the article version that includes the worst of these alleged fringe theories. What would really help us here would be if you gave this a scan and provided some specific comments on where you feel that any content falls within the scope of the Fringe Theories project. (My view is that it is far too wordy but most of this content was introduced by the editor who raised this issue, and we didn't want to remove this content unilaterally.)
I thank you in anticipation should you wish to comment on the project talk page. No need to respond here. -- TerryE (talk) 18:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- Okay will clarify over the next few days.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)