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The article is on a political entity with the federal designation highlighted through the banner. The political existence of this city is attached to the political designation it received. Everything in the article attaches to the banner as the designation is for heritage, unlike the role of an actor which is merely a few months in their entire existence (although one's life experience contributes to artistic development). Thus, unlike an actor who wins an award for one role filmed over a year, or a scientist who wins an award for one aspect of his life, cities receive federal designations for their entire existence spanning centuries. The only weight the banner places in the article is the weight of the entire article itself, not just one aspect of it lacking an attachment to everything else. Therefore it is neutral, unbiased, and factual concerning the arguments you have put forward. The article is on a political entity with the federal designation highlighted through the banner. The political existence of this city is attached to the political designation it received. Everything in the article attaches to the banner as the designation is for heritage, unlike the role of an actor which is merely a few months in their entire existence (although one's life experience contributes to artistic development). Thus, unlike an actor who wins an award for one role filmed over a year, or a scientist who wins an award for one aspect of his life, cities receive federal designations for their entire existence spanning centuries. The only weight the banner places in the article is the weight of the entire article itself, not just one aspect of it lacking an attachment to everything else. Therefore it is neutral, unbiased, and factual concerning the arguments you have put forward.


Approach the debate from that deduction and explain your reasoning since your arguments proffered above really don't hold up. Approach the debate from that deduction and explain your reasoning since your arguments proffered above really don't hold up


] (]) 06:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC) ] (]) 06:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

:"Preserve America Community" is a designation that communities apply for. Based on the information on the government website, there is no indication that any community that applies is turned down.

::(From http://www.preserveamerica.gov/overview.html) Preserve America recognizes and designates communities, including municipalities, counties, neighborhoods in large cities, and tribal communities, that protect and celebrate their heritage, use their historic assets for economic development and community revitalization, and encourage people to experience and appreciate local historic resources through education and heritage tourism programs. Since the program began in 2003, 814 communities have been designated as Preserve America Communities from throughout the country. Participants come from all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and two U.S. territories. Newly designated communities are notified by a letter from Mrs. Michelle Obama, First Lady of the United States.

::Benefits of designation include White House recognition; eligibility to apply for Preserve America Grants; a certificate of recognition; a Preserve America Community road sign; authorization to use the Preserve America logo on signs, flags, banners, and promotional materials; listing in a Web-based Preserve America Community directory; inclusion in national and regional press releases; official notification of designation to state tourism offices and visitors bureaus; and enhanced community visibility and pride. Preserve America Communities are also featured in National Register Travel Itineraries and in "Teaching with Historic Places" curricular material created by the National Park Service. There are quarterly deadlines to apply for designation annually on March 1, June 1, September 1, and December 1. Application forms are available at www.preserveamerica.gov/communities.html.

:I only took the banner down once and I won't take it down again. But I don't think it meets any reasonable standard for staying up. Based on the government website, the designation is meant primarily as an economic development and tourism promotion tool (The qualifications are "use their historic assets for economic development and community revitalization, and encourage people to experience and appreciate local historic resources through education and heritage tourism programs." The emphasis is on benefits to the applicants). It's the equivalent of a participation ribbon. That said, I'm glad people in Marysville are interested in preserving and celebrating their historic assets. I just think it belongs on the chamber of commerce website, not on wikipedia.

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How to find a job to marysville if we speak not very well english and also came from another country?

Thank's

Appropriate place for non-geopolitical details?

Just wondering what the practice is to document things about a city that are more cultural, economical, etc. For example, Marysville and Union County are home to Honda mfg, Scotts and Goodyear mfg, TRC, a number of covered bridges, a good economy, etc.

Error about Honda Accord

It is untrue that Marysville is the only place Honda Accords are manufactured. The vehicle is also manufactured at additional Honda factories around the world, though the Marysville plant is certainly the leader in production. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.108.109.116 (talk) 14:47, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Response to above comment

The goal of the article is to portray Marysville in as accurate a light as possible - nowhere does the article claim that Marysville is the "greatest community." If you believe there are political, economic, educational, and social problems worth noting in Marysville that have not been represented in the article and you have evidence you can cite, please feel free to edit the article as you wish. Do not complain if you will not take action to rectify any errors or misrepresentations you find in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blue Mage Az (talkcontribs) 21:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Photo of the courthouse

Hello everybody. I have added the photo of the Union County Courthouse, is that right for the article? I have been to Marysville when I come there on a schoolar exchange with my High School in Spain, Europe, to Marysville High School. I also have added some information and the school seal to the high school article. How do you think this article can be improved now? M.Jovellanos (talk) 08:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Banner at top of page?

An edit I made that removed the banner at the top of the page was reverted, with the reverter (Wiki Historian N OH) citing "This is a rare honor bestowed on American cities, warranting the special recognition through the banner." I checked random other cities with this distinction and none of them have the banner. If it's so special, either ALL United States cities must have the banner or none of them should. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Anything new has to start somewhere. Other editors have had the same position, and have ultimately left the banner in place after reverts. The visual has an impact in drawing attention and curiosity to the whole page. It also makes it more fun, like pictures. Ultimately, if the Wiki folks don't like it, hardly can one object, but they've yet to. If there is a proper policy for introduction of such a thing, please do inform, as everyone can agree it is proper to follow guidelines. Wiki Historian N OH (talk) 04:36, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but in my opinion, this clearly violates WP:NPOV. NPOV is not just to keep out the negative, it's to keep out the plaudits that fans would (and do) throw on the articles that are important to them. While you'll still see it from time to time, there has been a largely-successful movement to withdraw "Academy Award winning actress" and other such plaudits from the opening sentence of articles, as it lends too much weight to that honor. Closer to this, do you remember the Nobel icons that used to be placed on the Nobel prize winners near the top of the page? That looked "fun", but they're gone now, and I'm guessing that that's because it was decided that it placed too much weight on an admittedly important award. So this, as I see it, is no different. 65.80.246.160 (talk) 23:48, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there a place where I can make a submission or nomination for the single most hilarious edit summary of the year on Misplaced Pages? My nomination goes to the edit summary left by an editor when reverting my removal of the banner at the top of this article. Here is the edit summary, verbatim:

please acknowledge this debate has been had and editors have left it in place

The only "debate" I see is right here, in this section. One editor requested its removal, another editor suggested his reasons it should not be there, and that's the "debate"? Setting aside the fact that consensus can and does change on Misplaced Pages, who in his right mind thinks that the above exchange constitutes a "debate"? And calling it consensus is only possible if you assume that the other editor--who never returned with any comments--actually concurs with our WikiHistorian (which is quite possible but not certain). In any event, this topic was certainly not hashed out enough to say that the matter is closed, and I am once again going to remove that tag until consensus for it is achieved. And if someone insists upon reverting me, then I will plant a big ugly POV template at the top. I expect a conversation, not another joke. 98.82.83.227 (talk) 02:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The banner is neutral. The banner is unbiased. The banner is factual.

The banner is not a plaudit; it's a federal designation, unlike an Academy Award or Cy Young Award. This city didn't win an award, it received a designation.

The article is on a political entity with the federal designation highlighted through the banner. The political existence of this city is attached to the political designation it received. Everything in the article attaches to the banner as the designation is for heritage, unlike the role of an actor which is merely a few months in their entire existence (although one's life experience contributes to artistic development). Thus, unlike an actor who wins an award for one role filmed over a year, or a scientist who wins an award for one aspect of his life, cities receive federal designations for their entire existence spanning centuries. The only weight the banner places in the article is the weight of the entire article itself, not just one aspect of it lacking an attachment to everything else. Therefore it is neutral, unbiased, and factual concerning the arguments you have put forward.

Approach the debate from that deduction and explain your reasoning since your arguments proffered above really don't hold up

Wiki Historian N OH (talk) 06:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

"Preserve America Community" is a designation that communities apply for. Based on the information on the government website, there is no indication that any community that applies is turned down.
(From http://www.preserveamerica.gov/overview.html) Preserve America recognizes and designates communities, including municipalities, counties, neighborhoods in large cities, and tribal communities, that protect and celebrate their heritage, use their historic assets for economic development and community revitalization, and encourage people to experience and appreciate local historic resources through education and heritage tourism programs. Since the program began in 2003, 814 communities have been designated as Preserve America Communities from throughout the country. Participants come from all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and two U.S. territories. Newly designated communities are notified by a letter from Mrs. Michelle Obama, First Lady of the United States.
Benefits of designation include White House recognition; eligibility to apply for Preserve America Grants; a certificate of recognition; a Preserve America Community road sign; authorization to use the Preserve America logo on signs, flags, banners, and promotional materials; listing in a Web-based Preserve America Community directory; inclusion in national and regional press releases; official notification of designation to state tourism offices and visitors bureaus; and enhanced community visibility and pride. Preserve America Communities are also featured in National Register Travel Itineraries and in "Teaching with Historic Places" curricular material created by the National Park Service. There are quarterly deadlines to apply for designation annually on March 1, June 1, September 1, and December 1. Application forms are available at www.preserveamerica.gov/communities.html.
I only took the banner down once and I won't take it down again. But I don't think it meets any reasonable standard for staying up. Based on the government website, the designation is meant primarily as an economic development and tourism promotion tool (The qualifications are "use their historic assets for economic development and community revitalization, and encourage people to experience and appreciate local historic resources through education and heritage tourism programs." The emphasis is on benefits to the applicants). It's the equivalent of a participation ribbon. That said, I'm glad people in Marysville are interested in preserving and celebrating their historic assets. I just think it belongs on the chamber of commerce website, not on wikipedia.

Ohioreader (talk) 18:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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