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Source Analysis

Marknutley asked me to carry out a source analysis, as under the terms of his sanction, he is prevented from introducing any sources to any article in the CC area, broadly construed, without first checking with an experienced editor for review. Here is my review of the sources in the article as of this diff (which precedes all of NW's changes today):

• "Staff Directory". Department of the Interior. http://www.doi.gov/ppa/directory.html. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

Passes muster

• "Indur M. Goklany". World Economic Journal. http://www.world-economics-journal.com/Contents/AuthorDetails.aspx?AID=418. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

Passes muster

• Goklany, Indur M. (April 23, 2007). "Unintended consequences" (in English). New York Times (New York Times). http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/23/opinion/23iht-edgolany.1.5404935.html. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes. Not usable for anything else as an Op Ed piece. Demonstrates notability of the subject

• Brickley, Adam (August 17, 2009). "New Movie Seeks to Refute Gore’s ‘Inconvenient Truth’" (in English). CNS News. p. 1. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52543. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

Not a very good source as this source is biased, or will be viewed as same, except possibly for very factual stuff. Any opinions or critical views likely to be denigrated

• Goklany, Indur (07-15-2009). "Apocalypse When?" (in English). Korea Times (Korea Times). http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2010/03/198_48492.html. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes. Not usable for anything else as an Op Ed piece. Demonstrates notability of the subject

• Goklany, Indur (in English). The Improving State of the World: Why We're Living Longer, Healthier, More Comfortable Lives on a Cleaner Planet. The Cato Institute. p. 450. ISBN 978-1930865983.

Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes. Not usable for anything else as it is by him and he is not demonstrated to be a reliable source. Demonstrates notability of the subject. Cato Institute is viewed as partisan by many

• Goklany, Indur (Nov 2002) (in English). The precautionary principle: a critical appraisal of environmental risk. The Cato Institute. ISBN 978-1930865167.

Ditto

• Goklany, Indur Goklany (November 26, 1999) (in English). Clearing the Air: The Real Story of the War on Air Pollution. The Cato Institute. pp. 250. ISBN 978-1882577835.

Ditto

• Goklany, Indur M. (19 September 2009). "Climate change is not the biggest global health threat" (in English). The Lancet (The Lancet) 374 (9694): 1. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(09)61655-X. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(09)61655-X/fulltext. "In summary, the Commission has misdiagnosed the world's primary health problem, and its costliest remedy—mitigation—is also probably the least effective".

Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes.. May be useful as a source elsewhere since it's in The Lancet... he may have some expert credentials. But it is an op ed piece (letter to the editor) so is not a reliable source except on his view on things.

• Goklany, Indur M.. "The Globalization of Human Well-Being" (in English). Cato Institute. p. 1. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-447es.html. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

As with other Cato Institute sources.

• Goklany,, Indur M. (Winter 2009). "Deaths and Death Rates from Extreme Weather Events: 1900-2008" (in English). Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons) Volume 14 (Number 4): 8. http://www.jpands.org/vol14no4/goklany.pdf.

Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes. May be useful as a source elsewhere since it's in the american equiv of The Lancet... he may have some expert credentials

• Re: American equivalent of The Lancet, please see . MastCell  18:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

• Goklany, Indur M. (February 5, 2008). "What to Do about Climate Change" (in English). The Cato Institute. p. 1. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-609.pdf. Retrieved 23 May 2010.

Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes

• Goklany, Indur M. Goklany. (in English)Nature (Nature) 20 (1075). doi:10.1038/nbt1102-1075. http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v20/n11/full/nbt1102-1075.html.

An op ed piece. Passes muster as a source of what Indur said or believes.

In short all of these sources are usable in the corret context. The article establishes notability of this person and somewhat on his credentials, but has not established him as a citeable expert yet. The article needs some polishing... get another editor to help if you can. I approve use of all the references given for the purposes I listed. I think the article seems to abide by those limits fairly well. ++Lar: t/c 16:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Problems

I took some stuff out .

• he wasn't a lead author for IPCC '90. That appears to be a mangled version of He was the principal author of the Resource Use and Management Subgroup report in the IPCC’s First Assessment. Quite what that is I don't know, but its different.
• the other stuff was a copyvio from the same source.

Also, I'm not convinced that http://www.world-economics-journal.com/Contents/AuthorDetails.aspx?AID=418 is a RS for a biog; it looks very much like author-supplied material William M. Connolley (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

As for being a "representative", that isn't IPCC. G says "delegate" which makes more sense William M. Connolley (talk) 20:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I see SV has reverted this, as usual without any attempt at talk page discussion. Sigh William M. Connolley (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps because it is not a copyvio. The text is totaly different. The source is fine as Lar and NW have both ok`d it. SBHB also looked over this article and made no mention of this source being unreliable. Instead of taking stuff out why not just rewrite it to say he was a principal author for the FAR? mark nutley (talk) 20:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I haven't looked over the sources at all. I just cleaned it up as best I could and deferred to Lar's judgment. NW (Talk) 20:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Just noting here that I've done a bit of a copy edit as requested, and I'll take a look around later to see if there are sources to expand it with. SlimVirgin 20:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Getting better. But still wrong He wasn't Lead Author but Principal Author, or probably better calls him "rapporteur" of the group (removed .pdf with personal information)And it is a report to WGiii William M. Connolley (talk) 21:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Who`s address is in that pdf you have linked to here? I believe posting the address`s of people was a blp violation? mark nutley (talk) 21:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I have removed the link to the pdf, it is a residential address and may be Goklany`s home address please do not use that document again mark nutley (talk) 21:16, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I've re-inserted the PDF. It is a document *on his own website*. Please pause to think before reverting. Now: how about discussing the substance: do you think it is correct to call him a "lead author"? William M. Connolley (talk) 21:19, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I have removed it again, please look over Misuse of primary sources It clearly states Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses. This WMC is your second serious blp breach this week, you also posted a link to a document with fred singers address on your talk page, please be more careful. With regards to your question i think it is correct to use what the source says mark nutley (talk) 21:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)