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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article    = Example
 | status     = new<!--(or)  expanded-->
 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 23

Civilian casualty ratio

• ... that the lowest civilian casualty ratio in the history of combating terrorism may have been achieved by Israel, in its airstrikes on militants in the Gaza Strip?

Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Unique, notable, well-written with lots of good sources. Very relevant in the era of asymmetrical warfare --Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Currently at AfD. On hold here pending resolution there. 28bytes (talk) 17:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Concerns have been raised regarding the use of the word "terrorism" and the POV slant of the article which reads like an ISraeli MFA communique. While the article will likely be kept to be improved, these concerns also apply to the hook being proposed. Any alts for us to consider? Tiamut 10:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

AfD was closed as keep here. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 09:50, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• "may have been achieved"... they are guessing and where is the source for this guessing? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

  Hm, the lead quotes Alan Dershowitz about Israel's performance, and that article says about him that he "is an outspoken supporter of Israel". So the hook as it stands might well be somewhat risky, potentially not meeting NPOV. It's probably safest if we run a different hook. Any suggestions? Schwede66 04:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

  Given the serious concerns raised about this article in its AfD, I don't think that it's at all suited to appearing as a link from Misplaced Pages's main page. The hook is also obviously wrong - there have been any number of counter-terrorism operations which haven't involved any civilian deaths (for instance, Israel's own Operation Entebbe, Operation Jaque any many police operations worldwide). The proviso in the quote used as a source ("in a comparable setting") has also been stripped out of the hook for no clear reason. Nick-D (talk) 05:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of other issues and whether or not it should appear on the main page, the article needs a different, less agenda-driven hook (for what it's worth I would've voted Keep on the AfD). Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• A number of users both here and at the AFD have raised significant concerns about this article's neutrality, along with concerns about WP:COATRACK, WP:UNDUE and so on. I not only share those concerns, but I also think this article clearly fails to cover the topic adequately per our own rules. Since these problems are unlikely to be resolved without major changes to the article, there seems little chance of the problems being resolved any time soon. Gatoclass (talk) 10:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article has three dispute tags, and the DYK rules disallow any dispute tags in articles going to the main page. EdChem (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Indeed the tags were added by Gatoclass (his only edit to the article). Unfortunatly I have seen and been victim to this in the past. The article is plastered with tags by Gatoclass who then proceeds to announce on the DYK talk page that the article is problematic. This behavior arises when nominated articles may put Israel in a good light. I have yet to witness Gatoclass find any problem with articles that put Israel in a bad light, for which there are many that make their way through here. I have gathered numerous diffs off-line for eventual community review and can provide some per request.

As for the afd, it was a joke. Initiated by a highly partisian editor (see his user page), the afd was almost closed a SNOW. This article may rankle some because it sheds some light on the Arab victimization narrative, but it's impeccably sourced and written in the utmost neutral manner. This article is being upheld for nothing more then silly politics and wikilawyering.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The dispute tags were just added by Gatoclass, a participant in this discussion. While, initially, a few editors were concerned that the examples focused too much on Israel and not enough on other places, examples from diverse places have since been added and the article has stood without complaints for quite some time. Gatoclass was apparently unaware of this. I can understand Schwede66's concern about the hook presenting a POV, but it's noteworthy that as we speak the DYK presents a POV in the hook on death panels, a POV that is less quantifiable and hence more open to dispute than Dershowitz's. Nevertheless, here are alternatives:
ALT1: ... that according to a study by the International Committee of the Red Cross, the civilian casualty ratio in wars fought since the mid-20th Century has been ten civilian deaths for every soldier death?
ALT2: ... that in 2007, Israeli airstrikes on militants in the Gaza Strip achieved a civilian casualty ratio of one civilian casualty for every thirty combatant casualties?
Jalapenos do exist (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

"Civilian casualty rates" is an extremely broad topic, but 80% of this article is devoted to a couple of minor statistics about Palestinian casualty rates in the last few years, cited to cherry-picked sources like Alan Dershowitz, a well known Israeli advocate with no qualifications in the field, Commentary magazine, a neocon and Israeli advocacy site, and a random article in Haaretz. No mention at all of the countless studies by HRO's condemning Israel's excessive use of force which has killed thousands of noncombatants. The article is a content fork, a coatrack and a massive case of WP:UNDUE, apart from its other shortcomings. It simply isn't suitable for mainpage exposure. Gatoclass (talk) 16:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Your statements of fact (80%, etc.) are incorrect, as simply reading the article will show. Your subjective notions regarding the article's shortcomings were raised in community discussion and rejected by the majority. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Nonsense. Many "keep" voters acknowledged the article's numerous problems. They !voted to keep the topic, they were clearly not endorsing the content. Gatoclass (talk) 16:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The majority also rejected the notion that the article had serious problems. I provided the link to the AfD at the beginning of this discussion; you can read it. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid that is not the case. There was a total of 22 !votes: 13 keep, 6 delete, 2 merge and one neutral. Of the 13 keep !votes, many of them were from users heavily involved in the i-p conflict area. Of the remaining keep !voters, 5 expressed concerns over the content but argued the topic was notable. The two merge and one neutral all expressed concerns over the content. In short, 14 of 22 !voters expressed concerns over the content. That's almost two thirds of the total. Since then another three users including myself have expressed concerns. Gatoclass (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

In the spirit of moving things along, I suggest the following:

• Conceptually, I'm happy with ALT1. If the Red Cross comes up with a statement like this, there shouldn't be any argument about this. That said, I haven't gone to check the hook reference, but I'm suggesting that ALT1 is suitable for the homepage.
• In my opinion, if there are issues about the article itself, it would be better to place dispute templates onto that page and have the relevant discussions there, which would then allow to state here that the dispute templates are in place, cite the relevant rule and as long as the dispute tags are in place, it can't be used for DYK.

How does that sound? Schwede66 06:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with trying to resolve the issues on the talk page of the article. In regards to the tags, I did place some on the article yesterday but they were removed. There's not much point in placing tags if people are just going to remove them. Gatoclass (talk) 11:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm also fine with ALT1, and I don't think the former dispute tags are an issue. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 11:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I have made some changes to the article. I will probably need some more time to think about whether they go far enough though. Gatoclass (talk) 14:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

There's a new holdup on this article now with a new user objecting to some of the content. This may take some time to resolve yet. Gatoclass (talk) 14:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any "holdup" or a new user objecting to any content. I see PBS objecting to section headings recently added by you. I tend to agree with his assessment that your additions are WP:SYNTH, but it's only section headings, no big deal. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 16:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 26

Walid Husayin

• ... that the Palestinian Authority has detained Palestinian blogger Walid Husayin for allegedly blaspheming against Islam on Facebook and in his personal blog?

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Note: Article is currently listed at AfD. --Allen3  23:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

The article and the hook are well written and the subject is interesting. If the community decides to keep the article, as it seems to be doing, it's good to go. One minor comment: I think "blaspheming against Islam" in the hook should be changed to "blaspheming against Islam". Jalapenos do exist (talk) 19:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Changed link. LittleMountain5 23:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Wuthering Heights (Herrmann)

• ✗... that Bernard Herrmann's only opera Wuthering Heights was composed 1943-1951, recorded by the composer in 1966, but has yet to receive a staged complete performance (its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by some 40 minutes and a happier ending was substituted)?

Created by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• The original hook, at 257 characters is over the limit of 200. Suggesting ALT1, at 199. (Note: I've only looked at the hook, not the article.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that Bernard Herrmann recorded his only opera, Wuthering Heights, in 1966 but it has not been completely staged, as its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by 40 minutes with a happier ending substituted?

I'm happy with that revised hook. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

all checks out. The format & detail to the refs could be improved. Johnbod (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Returned from preps with the following concerns: (i) the article is based on ref. 1, which is a selling site, saying "buy online" right on the page; it sites no references within itself. There should be better sources for an opera; (ii) the article says "It has been claimed that the first performance of Wuthering Heights was a concert version in London in 1966, but this seems to be a confusion with the recording made in London that year. An unnamed writer for iTunes says that Herrmann never saw the work staged at all" - is this encyclopedical? (iii) the hook is unwieldy; suggest adding that Bernard Herrmann was an Academy winning composer and strip details. (iv) Most reference details are incomplete. Materialscientist (talk) 06:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 27

Harihar Narayan Prabhakar

• ... that Indian politician Harihar Narayan Prabhakar began his political career in the Communist Party of India, but later represented three different parties in the legislative assembly of Bihar?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Changing parties by politicians is very common phenomena in India, Nothing new about it.-- . Shlok _{talk .} 09:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Perhaps this hook would be more interesting, ALT1: "that Indian politician Harihar Narayan Prabhakar began his political career in the Communist Party of India, but later represented the Bharatiya Janata Party in the legislative assembly of Bihar?" Switching from CPI to BJP is certainly not very common. --Soman (talk) 14:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Moni Guha

• ... that Indian communist Moni Guha was amongst the first to criticize the 1956 line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union as 'revisionist'?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• something is missing after "the first.." I doubt he was the world's first on that, the article doesn't clearly describe the hook ("the first" part). Materialscientist (talk) 07:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article says: "Guha, who had condemned the 20th congress within weeks of its holding, was one of the first anti-revionist dissidents in the international communist movement". I've fixed a ref at the preceding sentence as well also. --Soman (talk) 14:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 29

Body schema

• ... phantom limbs are caused by rewiring of neurons that are a part of the body schema?

Created by Jconn3 (talk). Self nom at 04:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: This is a (40x) expansion, not a new creation. --Pgallert (talk) 06:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length okay, date is borderline but should IMHO be accepted as we have a nomination from a really new user. Offline source accepted igf. --Pgallert (talk) 06:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)misread additional rule D9, see below

• Question Can we accept this submission per WP:IAR? It is too old per additional rule D9 but it comes from a really new user. --Pgallert (talk) 06:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Yup. There's still some older hooks in the queue - and some of them aren't ticked in any form yet. So I say D9 applies, feel free to add that tick back up. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Length, general referencing, and dates of creation all look fine and I'm 100% on board with a little IAR for the nomination date in this instance but the hook fact itself is a problem. The article states "The mechanism by which phantom limbs occur is still under debate." in contrast to the nominated hook. With a better, properly-cited hook this one will be good to go. - Dravecky (talk) 08:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Well, the hook fact appears after "A common theory posits that" and ends with an offline ref to an academic paper. As the paper itself is unlikely to contain a reference to its own popularity, it is likely (in the way we use agf) that it contains the statement that phantom limbs are caused by rewiring of neurons. So the hook fact might not be uncontested but it likely is properly referenced. That the theory is popular might not be WP:OR either, considering the title of the paper Central mechanisms in phantom limb perception: the past, present and future. that references this statement. So what about simply stating:
• ALT1 ... according to a popular theory, phantom limbs are caused by rewiring of neurons that are a part of the body schema? --Pgallert (talk) 12:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Woodwrae Stone

• ... that when the foundations of an old Scottish castle in Angus was cleared in 1819, a floor slab in the castle's kitchen was found to be a Pictish stone, the Woodwrae Stone (pictured)?

Created by Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook ref verified. —Bruce1ee 10:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Female sperm storage

• ... that spiked genitalia, such as that of the bean weevil (pictured) may be an adaptation to remove sperm stored by females from previous mates?

5x expanded by User:Margaretsarmy (talk), User:Shanana3475 (talk), User:Piltro (talk), User:ClashofAges (talk), User:Ethandegner (talk), User:Bjholm (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 15:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Ref 42 (Rönn et al. 2007) does not mention anything related to "...remove sperm of previous males from female storage structures" --İnfoCan (talk) 23:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, thanks for checking, I should have done first really, but was hoping it was correct. I'll need to do some reading to come up with a different hook. SmartSE (talk) 17:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1988 Winter Olympics

• ... that the Olympic Saddledome venue used for the 1988 Winter Olympics was under construction in 1981 when Calgary was awarded the Games?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and dates are fine but referencing is either primary sources or about events that took place in these venues and not about the venues themselves. Surely there was some news coverage between 1981 and 1988. Also, the hook is dull and obscures the link to the article in question. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• The history of the Saddledome was listed on the website that it was started in the summer of 1981. Calgary was awarded the 1988 Games in September 1981. Chris (talk) 13:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway

ALT0

• ... that the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway (pictured) saw two railway collisions, one fatality and a riot?

• ALT1:... that at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway Prime Minister the Duke of Wellington (pictured) was pelted with vegetables by an angry mob?
• ALT2:... that at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway William Huskisson (pictured), Member of Parliament for Liverpool, was killed, and the trains were attacked by an angry mob in Manchester?
• Comment: Obviously, which image is used depends on which hook is used. Huskisson's portrait probably works best at the small main-page image size.

Created by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• • ALT3:... that William Huskisson M.P. (pictured), was killed at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway by Stephenson's Rocket?

Suggest .. hooky? Victuallers (talk) 23:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

A bit reluctant, just because that's the one fact about the opening which is widely known. (The Manchester riots are generally blotted out of history, but every British schoolchild learns about Huskisson's death in primary school.) If ALT3 is used (or any variation thereof) it should be "Stephenson's Rocket"—"Stephenson's" isn't part of the name (we use it to disambiguate from other Rockets). – iridescent 23:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I like the alt. Even if it's slightly less appealing to British readers, that will definitely grab the attention of everyone else in the world and probably quite a few UK users too. Ed  15:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough—tweaked the formatting of Stephenson's Rocket in the hook, though. – iridescent 20:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Good (and GA) to go. For ease of the person moving to queues, I've struck the other hooks and photos. Bencherlite 15:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Indiana (Matthews)

Figural representation of Indiana

• ... that in 1893 a sculpture of Indiana (pictured) by Retta Matthews was considered an "ideal figure of Indiana"?

Created by Aacarrie (talk). Nominated by Rearnold22 (talk) at 20:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Great fact! I copy edited and included links & image. --RichardMcCoy (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
• I moved this to the correct creation date.(It was just one day off). HstryQT (talk) 03:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• I've cleaned up the article and removed tags. Date and fact verified. HstryQT (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Or ALT1: ... that in 1893 a sculpture of Indiana (pictured) by Retta Matthews portrayed an "ideal figure of Indiana" at the Chicago World's Fair? HstryQT (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 is better. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• There are a few sections, such as the one about people mistaking the statue for Ceres, that are uncited. This will need to be corrected before the article can be put in queue. –Grondemar 13:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 30

Joseph Levien

• ... that Joseph Levien (pictured) became Mayor of Nelson, New Zealand after the City Council had been bankrupted?

• Comment: I'll do some more tidying of the references, but it's good to go (and it has to, as it's just about to hit 5 days).

Created by NealeFamily (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• I've moved the article to Joseph Levien and adjusted the hook accordingly. Schwede66 17:51, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

CURV-III

• ... that in the deepest underwater rescue in history, CURV-III (pictured), a US Navy ROV, saved two men in 1973 stranded for 76 hours in a submersible from a depth of 1,575 ft (480 m) with just minutes of air remaining?

Created/expanded by Wpwatchdog (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is 218 characters, well over the maximum 200 so something will have to be left out, how about

ALT1... that in the deepest underwater rescue in history, CURV-III (pictured), a US Navy ROV, saved two men stranded in a submersible at a depth of 1,575 ft (480 m) with just minutes of air remaining? Mikenorton (talk) 21:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you for the revision. It reads better now.--Wpwatchdog (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Ole Carlson House

• ... that the Ole Carlson House (pictured) is a good example of Minnesota's rural Norwegian heritage?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article says the "owner/builder represents the rural Norwegian heritage of the area" while the Italianate structure itself is "an example of the ethnic settlements of early Norwegian Americans". These two almost-facts seem to have been conflated by this hook. - Dravecky (talk) 12:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hi there. The Minnesota Historic Properties Inventory Form stated that it's criteria for selection was its agricultural, architectural and ethnic significance at the local level (versus national). The local level is rural Minnesota, which as our article on Norwegian Americans points out, is the home to the largest population of Norwegian descendants, don'tcha know? I was debating about using the word "fine" instead of "good", but I felt that wasn't quite right --but perhaps it would be given that the house is considered above average. I'm up for suggestions. --Bobak (talk) 17:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Acochlidiacea, Euopisthobranchia, Panpulmonata

• ... that research of small acochlidian (example pictured) group (less than 30 species) resulted in redefinition of Heterobranchia, the largest clade of gastropods, that has led to creation new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?

5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that research into the acochlidian group (example pictured) resulted in the largest clade of gastropods being redefined, which led the creation of the new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?

Hopefully this reads slightly better and is a tad hookier. SmartSE (talk) 10:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that research on the acochlidians (pictured), a group with 30 species, resulted in the redefinition of the Heterobranchia, the largest clade of gastropods, and has led to the creation of the new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?

I have fixed the prose of original hook for the ALT2. ALT1 is also fine. --Snek01 (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: There are two images available. Feel free to use both(!) or the only a photo. --Snek01 (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Frida Kahlo Museum (La Casa Azul)

• ... that Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo housed Leon Trotsky and his wife in "The Blue House" (pictured) after the couple obtained political asylum?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• I created it as a new article before finding and merging a stub that was previously createdThelmadatter (talk) 13:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added a picture. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Cancer Cells

• ... that research has shown that the failure to recognize cancer cells is caused by the lack of particular co-stimulated molecules that aid in the way antigens react with lymphocytes(pictured)?

Created/expanded by Venustas 12 (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can you wikilink the hook and bold the article the DYK is about and add an alt-text to the image? -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 20:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, this is not even close to a 5x expansion within the last 5 days. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cancer_Cells&diff=prev&oldid=399812662

This article is only one day old (before that it was a workshop.) Venustas 12 (talk) 23:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

And it is still a workshop, and it is all your editing from the start. We require 5x expansion within 5-7 days, which is not seen here, but it can still be done, so good luck. Materialscientist (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I've quickly cleaned up formatting, but this should not mislead the reviewer - this article does need to be checked carefully, preferably by someone who knows this subject a bit. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agree on this. I did some further clean-up, but this should be checked by someone who knows something about it. Also, I think that this article should be at Cancer cell, not Cancer cells, with the current contents of Cancer Cell moved to Cancer Cell (journal) or something like that. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Needs more work to be a sufficient expansion for the time frame given. --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 05:58, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

perhaps its to late now but before December first this was not even an article . It was a sandbox

see a similar example at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&action=edit&section=56 Venustas 12 (talk) 23:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC).

It is not too late if it was nominated before the 5-7 time frame. And because this was moved from userspace, that means that this is under the new article rules, not the 5x expansion rules, so the reviewers above are incorrect in their diagnosis of the article. Silverseren 09:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Right, it was moved from userspace, thus date is Ok. The hook is unwieldy, and the article still needs to be checked (see above). Materialscientist (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it still needs to be checked, but it shouldn't have been rejected twice above for reasons that don't even apply to it. Oh, and I suggest an alt below. Silverseren 09:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Suggested Alt: ... that descriptions of cancer cells go as far back as 1600 BC to the time of Ancient Egypt and our understanding of such cells became fairly significant during the Renaissance period? Silverseren 09:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Article 9 of the Constitution of Singapore

• ... that under Article 9 of the Singapore Constitution no one may be deprived of life or personal liberty save in accordance with law, which a 1980 case says includes fundamental rules of natural justice?

Created by Emmanuel Benedict Lee (talk), Josephine chee (talk), Shalini Jayaraj (talk), Viknesh2010 (talk), Yeenseen (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 18:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article was moved from a sandbox on 30 November 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 18:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus

• ... that Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus locked 200 tons of radioactive lava, 30 tons of highly contaminated dust and 16 tons of uranium and plutonium?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good and is interesting, can you add citations for the last sentences of the construction and replacement sections though? Thanks SmartSE (talk) 10:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Added extra citation. The New Safe Confinement has the relevant citation in itself. Twilightchill t 17:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it's good to go. SmartSE (talk) 15:45, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I first promoted to the lead and then demoted here. The article is an accurate summary of its references, but references are by no means adequate to the topic. Refs 2 and 4 are one-person sites (blogs). Ref. 3 is dead at the moment. Ref. 1 is from Chernobyl Children International - valid British NGO, but unfortunately with no credibility in technical details and no secondary references cited. No matter how unreliable Russian sources might be on this topic, if that sealed reactor section contained about 200 tons of uranium before explosion, it can't be 16 after, and this one suggests it is more like 180, i.e. I have no trust in the hook. Materialscientist (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Walter T. Bailey

• ... that Walter T. Bailey was the first African-American to graduate from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign with a bachelor of science in architectural engineering?

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• An interesting read. I'd suggest a catchier hook, though. A couple suggestions:

• alt 1 ... that Walter T. Bailey was the first licensed African-American architect in Illinois?
• alt 2 ... that Walter T. Bailey, the first licensed African-American architect in Illinois, designed the National Knights of Pythias Temple in Chicago's Black Metropolis-Bronzeville District? Cbl62 (talk) 02:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought of that first one earlier but neglected to post it. Any of those hooks work. IvoShandor (talk) 06:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Chase Aircraft, Stroukoff Aircraft

• ... that the contract for production of the C-123 Provider, developed by Chase Aircraft, was awarded to Fairchild Aircraft as a result of a scandal involving Henry J. Kaiser (pictured)?

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that Chase Aircraft lost the contract to produce its C-123 transport aircraft due to a scandal involving Henry J. Kaiser (pictured), that also resulted in Chase's CEO starting his own company?

Expanded to a double hook; Stroukoff Aircraft was originally a section of the Chase article, but has now been split off to its own article. - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 07:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Geology of Masschusetts

• ... that although Massachusetts is located at the 42nd parallel north, it is made up of rocks which originated near the South Pole?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 04:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• The article references different pages of one book multiple times. Tip: A cleaner way to do this is <ref name="bkname">{{cite book |...}}</ref>{{rp|1}} ... <ref name="bkname"/>{{rp|2}} .... See the help page for citation template for more details. hth. Looks good otherwise. Woz2 (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

To prevent duplicating information you can then use the <ref name= "Scott p. 777">{{harvnb|NAME|YEAR|p=777}}</ref> harvnb citing template. -- Esemono (talk) 14:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article really needs improvement to its language, to me 'taffy' is a derogatory term for a welshman and even when I discover that it is also a candy I don't see the map looking like that at all. Also in the lede, subcontinents (microcontinents?) did not collide with the state, but other rocks. The single offline source is a problem as other sources show that only part of the rocks in Massachusetts come from the southern hemisphere and not that close to the pole. Also there is an unsourced section on earthquakes relating them to glacial rebound, also repeated in the lede, for which I have struggled to find any supporting reference. I will do my best to add sources to back up the Skehan book. Mikenorton (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 1

Royal Rumble (2004)

• ... that the match for the WWE Championship at Royal Rumble (2004) resulted from one wrestler legitimately breaking another wrestler's neck?

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 23:11, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Gerard Hodgkinson

• ... that as owner of Wookey Hole Caves (pictured) the Swahili-speaking former Somerset cricketer and Royal Flying Corps pilot Gerard Hodgkinson sued novelist John Cowper Powys for libel and won?

Created by Johnlp (talk). Self nom at 14:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• The remarkable aspect of Hodgkinson's suit was that Powys was writing about an evil fictional character Philip Crow that Hodgkinson self-identified with then sued Powys about! Maybe a better hook is something like ALT1 ... that Gerard Hodgkinson, owner of Wookey Hole Caves (pictured) and Swahili-speaking former Somerset cricketer and Royal Flying Corps pilot, sued John Cowper Powys for libeling him in a semi-fictional novel, and won? Woz2 (talk) 02:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Not sure "self-identified" is right. The novel is set in a real town, near which there is a set of caves with a semi-industrial complex: can't only have been Hodgkinson who saw parallels between his situation and that of Philip Crow. Besides, your version introduces double parentheses. Johnlp (talk) 03:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hmmm Wordsmithed my ALT1 (above) a bit hth Woz2 (talk) 14:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Much better. Not sure we need "semi-fictional", though. It was presumably the degree to which the novel blended fiction with real places (and the people who lived in them) that was the crux of the case. Can link "novel" as well. Johnlp (talk) 15:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• OK How about ALT2 ... that Gerard Hodgkinson, owner of Wookey Hole Caves (pictured) and Swahili-speaking former Somerset cricketer and Royal Flying Corps pilot, sued John Cowper Powys for libel, and won even though the story was fictionalized? Woz2 (talk) 16:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Fine. Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 16:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook, image, and refs look good. BTW when I read articles like this I can't help being reminded of the late John Peel and his sonic epitaph Roy Harper's When an Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease. Sadly missed... Woz2 (talk) 17:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

23 Minutes In Hell

• ... that Bill Wiese claims to have spent 23 Minutes In Hell?

Created by Vince the Red (talk), Drmies (talk). Nominated by Metropolitan90 (talk) at 09:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Per Additional Rule D5, I note that this article is currently the subject of a deletion discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/23 Minutes In Hell, but it is likely to make it through as a "keep" on 8 December 2010. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 10:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1 ... that Bill Wiese claims to have spent precisely 23 Minutes In Hell? (I assume he keeps a stopwatch by him in preparation for such eventualities :-) ) Woz2 (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article has now passed the AfD. By the way, I still prefer the original hook. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:15, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Bremo Historic District; Bremo Bluff, Virginia

• ... that the Bremo Plantation (pictured) at Bremo Bluff, Virginia provided refuge to the family of General Robert E. Lee during the American Civil War?

5x expanded by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 14:05, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• I just expanded the hook for a double-nom. KimChee (talk) 06:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Richard Goldman

• ... that philantropist Richard Goldman and his wife established a prize in 1990 that has been dubbed "The Green Nobel"?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 12:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Creation date and source verified. The article is technically long enough, but I think the lead paragraph is just duplicate information. Might need to be expanded some more. - PM800 (talk) 23:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

First Hungarian Reformed Church of New York

• ... that the First Hungarian Reformed Church of New York (pictured) on the Upper East Side is the only Christian religious building designed by Emery Roth?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:33, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the First Hungarian Reformed Church of New York (pictured) was the only Christian religious building designed by Jewish architect Emery Roth? - PM800 (talk) 06:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I phrased it the way I did because I didn't think the fact that Roth was Jewish is really relevant ... concerns about sounding faintly antisemitic aside, lots of architects irrespective of religious beliefs or the lack thereof have designed lots of religious buildings or none at all. Daniel Case (talk) 17:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• OK, then disregard ALT1. I just didn't think the original hook was interesting enough by itself, but I get what you're saying. - PM800 (talk) 18:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Coffee production in India

• ... that the earliest variety of Coffea arabica grown in India (pictured coffee plantation) was named Kent?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 04:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 05:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that probably the most commonly planted Coffea arabica in India and Southeast Asia is named S.795? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that of the approximately 250,000 coffee growers in India, 98% of them are small growers? --Rosiestep (talk) 20:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT 3 ... that Coffee production in India started when Baba Budan, while on a pilgrimage smuggled seven coffee beans by tying it around his waist from Yemen and planted them in Karnataka? -- N.V.V. Char . 06:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

The Kate Smith Show

• ... that The Kate Smith Show theme song was "When the Moon Comes over the Mountain," rather than Smith's better known rendition of "God Bless America"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is currently linked to a page on magiclink.com, which appears to be a fan page or blog. Do you have any information indicating that magiclink.com is a reliable source? I suspect the information if correct, and the hook is a good one (IMO), but can you supply a more reliable source? Cbl62 (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Temple Beth Israel (Sharon, Pennsylvania)

• ... that in the mid-1940s Temple Beth Israel of Sharon, Pennsylvania held Reform services on Friday nights and Orthodox ones on Saturday mornings?

5x expanded by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Dates and expansion both good. AGF of offline sourcing. --Allen3  15:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Bedsitcom

• ... that the Channel 4 series Bedsitcom was a reality TV programme that featured three actors and three unaware members of the public?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: I'm not entirely sure that that's the most eloquent hook that I could've written. Basically, Bedsitcom documented the lives of six young adults in London. Three of them thought that they were taking part in a standard reality TV series about six young adults living together in a flat, and were unaware that the other three were actually actors being directed by a team of writers in a separate room. These three actors would often manipulate the three genuine contestants into doing the sorts of crazy things that might normally occur on a sitcom. Sources: . Can, err, anyone think of a succinct way of expressing that premise in a hook? A Thousand Doors (talk) 14:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT1* ... that the reality TV programme Bedsitcom featured actors following the producer's instructions, as well as unaware members of the public, leading to it being labelled "morally reprehensible".

The number of actors and the channel it was on aren't too important, hopefully this gets it across and is interesting. SmartSE (talk) 10:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's much better. Thanks very much, SmartSE! A Thousand Doors (talk) 14:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Slight varient ALT2* ... that the reality TV programme Bedsitcom featured shills (actors following the producer's instructions) who manipulated unsuspecting members of the public, leading to it being labelled "morally reprehensible". Woz2 (talk) 23:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

US Railcar

• ... that despite being a builder of railroad rolling stock, US Railcar has no facilities with which to construct their products?

Created by C628 (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 2

Gruta das Torres

• ... that the Gruta das Torres cave (pictured) is stated to be the second largest in Azores and seventh largest in the world?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img-- N.V.V. Char . 04:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Image is from a limestone cave in Brazil, I though it looked odd, having visited the Torres caves, I've replaced it with one from the location (I know it's mine, but at least it's of the right cave). Mikenorton (talk) 13:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Red Basilica

• ... that at the "Red Basilica" of Pergamon (pictured), worshippers of the Egyptian gods may have reenacted the flooding of the Nile?

Created by Prioryman (talk) 17:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Date and length verified, offline source accepted igf, pic license okay. --Pgallert (talk) 14:07, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• And a lead article candidate. Gatoclass (talk) 15:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Mashteuiatsh, Quebec

• ... that the Mashteuiatsh Reserve on Lake Saint-Jean in Quebec, Canada, had an original size of 23,040 acres (93.2 km) but currently is only 14.50 km?

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Self nom at 16:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Lucas

• ... that this year a U.S. Embassy attache visited the tomb of Samuel Lucas who lived to hear the "tidings of the destruction of the slave power in the United States"?

• Comment: alt hooks welcome

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Jackson Mine

• ... that the first iron mine in the Lake Superior region, the Jackson Mine, was established where iron ore was found in the roots of a fallen tree?

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 12:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• Citations: Jackson Mine is the first mine in the area, ore discovered in the roots of a fallen tree. Andrew Jameson (talk) 12:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I could only get to the second of your offered refs but the article's ref 2 covered both points - thanks - although I think the word "when" could be accurately be changed to "where"? Victuallers (talk) 15:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

1) I agree "where" is better, and have changed the hook accordingly. 2) Although the point is moot, the first citation is more explicit. For reference, the cite read in part, " is attractive in the iron ore region of Michigan and the entire Lake Superior region, because of the fact it was here that the first discovery of iron ore was made, here the first mining was done, and from its ore the first iron was manufactured." Actually, I think I'll add that quote to the article. :) Andrew Jameson (talk) 15:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

SS Persier (1918)

• ... that although Persier was due to be scuttled as a blockship during Operation Overlord in June 1944, she was returned to service, only to be torpedoed and sunk in February 1945?

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 07:52, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Pete Rummell

• ... that the planned community of Celebration, Florida was the 1989 brainchild of Pete Rummell when he was President of Disney Development Company?

Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• Going to need more cites - some say "one ref per para", but certainly more at end of article Victuallers (talk) 15:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC) oops, my error, clicked on the article about the place by mistake. Victuallers (talk) 16:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

O'Brien Alston

• ... that after he injured Indianapolis Colts linebacker O'Brien Alston, New York Jets running back Freeman McNeil was so distraught that he "committed a flagrant act of compassion"?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thor: God of Thunder

• ... that actors Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston will reprise their Thor movie roles in the video game, Thor: God of Thunder?

Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 21:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Spoons sex position

• ... that a woman's G-Spot can be easily reached in the spoons sex position?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Suggestion: Why not add the commons picture, File:Wiki-spoons-sp.png? --Soman (talk) 18:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Because such image won't be featured. Removed. Materialscientist (talk) 08:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Because wikipedia is censored? Why is this considered offensive? --Soman (talk) 19:56, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not censored, main page is :-) Too many people might find it inappropriate (just experience - if we posted that image, someone would take it down, wasting the lead hook). Materialscientist (talk) 22:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Arnold Aronson

• ... that Arnold Aronson, a founder of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, helped inspire the career of his nephew, singer-songwriter and organizer Si Kahn?

Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict

• ... that The Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict strives to bring about new policies that protects innocent victims as well as aid those who were inevitably caught in the crossfire of war?

5x expanded by SoAuthentic (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ... umm "as well as"? reads to me as if the group protects "innocent victims" as well as those "caught in crossfire". I'm willing to bet the second set are innocent victims too... and why are they "inevitably caught" and not just "caught"? Ill try and think of a new hook Victuallers (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I tried to find a new hook but found the article too wordy (coi?). I think this needs a second opinion. imo this reads as if the article is not about the Campaign, more like it is the campaign - and we shouldn't do that. Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Platt-LePage Aircraft Company, Platt-LePage XR-1

• ... that the Platt-LePage Aircraft Company, formed after one of its founders was impressed by a Nazi rotorcraft, beat Sikorsky for the contract to supply the first American military helicopter (pictured)?

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Now a double nom with extra added choppery goodness. - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

FIFA's Dirty Secrets

• ... that a documentary investigating corruption within FIFA was broadcast in the week that the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup hosts were chosen?

Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on December 3

Kingsbridge Armory

• ... that New York City offered the 5-acre (2.0 ha) Kingsbridge Armory (pictured), in The Bronx, reputedly the largest in the world, to the UN General Assembly as a temporary meeting space?

• Comment: A fivefold text expansion, or close to it

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:52, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Fate, Shulan

• ... that many sturgeons of the Sungari River spent the the last several months of their lives in Fate Town, Jilin?

Created by Vmenkov (talk). Self nom at 06:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Bobby Treviño

• ... that, in his last professional baseball season, Bobby Treviño set a Texas League record by hitting safely in 37 consecutive games?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: This article has actually not been 5x expanded, but I believe it qualifies under the new unsourced BLP rule. - PM800 (talk) 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

E. R. Minchew

• ... that Louisiana educator and debate coach E. R. Minchew was himself the winner in 1929 of the state collegiate championship in oratory?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

John McKechnie (coach)

• ... that John McKechnie, recipient of a 1987 Coach of the Year award, was winless in college football?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Perry Nelson House

• ... that, dubbed the "House of Politics", the Perry Nelson House (pictured) was a place where Yankee farmers and politicians discussed issues of the day?

Created/expanded by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

H. T. Summersgill

• ... that to this day, Tulane University and Louisiana State University dispute the results of a football game coached by H. T. Summersgill (pictured) in 1901?

Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 00:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

George Yeager

• ... that baseball catcher George Yeager had his best statistical season cut short after 19 games due to a knee injury?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• Since it's such a broad statement, it seems to be POV. It doesn't define what you mean by best. Possibly put statistical before season. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 20:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good point. Fixed. - PM800 (talk) 20:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Yan Emperor

Relief sculptures of the Yan Emperor and the Yellow Emperor

• ... that a 2004 academic conference in China concluded that the Sheep's Head Mountains, north of Gaoping, Shanxi Province, was the homeland of the legendary Yan Emperor?

5x expanded by White whirlwind (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Flint River

• ... that Creek Indians assisted by English traders defeated a larger force of Apalachee and Spanish fighters in the October 1702 Battle of Flint River?

5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Clotted Cream

• ... that in Devon a cream tea includes a scone spread with clotted cream and topped with jam, but in Cornwall it is prepared the other way around?

5x expanded by Worm That Turned (talk) and User:Smalljim (talk). Nominated by Worm That Turned (talk) at 13:31, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Although the suggested hook is generally true, and perhaps traditionally true, it can be quite contentious - see Talk:Cream tea. But, if you want to spark an argument vigorous debate in Devon and Cornwall, go for it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I thought that might get people in, it is sourced and most importantly I didn't say WHICH was right... but that was one of my main reasons for putting up the alts!Worm 14:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• My maths says ~1500 to ~8500 is ok, let me know if I've got that wrong! Also, I've got some ALTS if that hook isn't hooky enough, please do say which you think is best!Worm 13:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that clotted cream has such a high fat content that in United States of America it would be classed as butter?

ALT2 ... that in the run up to Christmas, one manufacturer produces up to 25 tonnes (25,000 kg) of clotted cream per day?

Is ALT2 nice for 25 December? Although I have to say that the original is, sort of, geekier ;) -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 06:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, my least favourite of the hooks, but if we are short on Xmas ones, it would do the job Worm 10:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Park Performing Arts Center

• ... that the longest running passion play in the United States takes place annually at the Park Performing Arts Center, sometimes called America's Oberammergau in honor of the world's oldest production, the Oberammergau Passion Play?

Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the 1997 production of its passion play caused a controversy when the Park Performing Arts Center cast a Afro-American actor to play the role of Jesus?

Richie McCaw

Portrait shot showing the face of a young man wearing a black jersey with the words ADIDAS on the right and All Blacks under a silver fern on the left

• ... that in 2010 All Blacks captain Richie McCaw (pictured) was named the IRB International Player of The Year, for a record third time?

5x expanded by Aircorn (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• Here's the source AIRcorn (talk) 12:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
• The source says "first player to win the award three times since its inception in 2001" and the lede says "named the International Rugby Board (IRB) International Player of The Year a record three times" but the actual cited hook fact merely says "McCaw was again honored by being named the IRB International Player of the Year for the second successive season, and three times in total". The hook fact with the citation needs to explicitly state that this is a record, both for DYK and to support the lede. - Dravecky (talk) 08:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I just changed the cited hook fact to more closely resemble the hook and added a second citation that uses the word record. AIRcorn (talk) 22:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Great Recoinage of 1816

• ... that during the Great Recoinage of 1816 the design of the portrait of King George III by Benedetto Pistrucci was met with such public hostility that it was withdrawn?

Created by Andrewrabbott (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• The hook needs to be fixed a little bit, and DYK requires one source for every paragraph in the article. Also, it would be good to have at least one online source for verifiability. - PM800 (talk) 10:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

No doubt there are many such rules for DYK. Where are they posted, so that we don't run afoul of the enforcers?--Wetman (talk) 20:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Right up there wheere it says 'DYK Criteria'. Or here. - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 05:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I've added more references to the article, but I don't understand the comment that the "hook need to be fixed a little bit". (talk).

Well, it appears that someone has made improvements to your hook. There are still no references in two paragraphs, and still no online references for verifiability. - PM800 (talk) 04:32, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Elsa Chauvel

• ... that Australian actress and filmmaker Elsa Chauvel met her future husband Charles when he scouted her for the lead role in his second film?

Created by Ackatsis (talk). Nominated by Gonzonoir (talk) at 11:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT:... that Australian actress and filmmaker Elsa Chauvel met her future husband Charles when he scouted her for the lead role in Greenhide?

Comment: I just created an article for the film in question (1723 characters) and thought it might be a good idea to integrate this into the hook, pending the nominator's approval. Ackatsis (talk) 13:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT hook looks great to me - not that my approval should really be important :) Gonzonoir (talk) 13:52, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

IS (Infinite Stratos)

• ... that the Chinese translations of the light novel IS (Infinite Stratos) was under indefinite suspension because the publisher had entered into overseas contracts without the writer's consent?

5x expanded by Ike-bana (talk). Self nom at 00:38, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Not clear to me if the QPQ thing has been instated yet or not but here is my QPQ review if it is. --生け花 01:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Vildosola Racing, Gus Vildósola, Tavo Vildósola

• ... that Vildosola Racing drivers Gus and Tavo Vildósola won the 2010 Baja 1000, the first Trophy Truck overall winner since 1973?

Created by Erikpn (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 4

James L. McCorkle, Jr.

• ... that the historian James L. McCorkle, Jr., has researched heavily on the importance of rural truck farming in feeding the urban population of the American South?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Bristol Festival of Ideas

• ... that the Bristol Festival of Ideas, set up in 2005 as part of the city's bid to become European Capital of Culture, now awards one of the most valuable annual book prizes in the UK?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 10:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: Jimmy Wales is speaking at a Festival event on 13 January (here). Do people think it would be a good idea to time this article's appearance on the main page (if approved) to fit in with that? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Sachs Covered Bridge

• ... that General Lee and the Confederate Army retreated over the Sachs Covered Bridge (pictured) after being defeated in the Battle of Gettysburg?

Created by Doncram (talk), Niagara (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

L. L. Clover

• ... that in 1952 the pastor L. L. Clover launched Louisiana Missionary Baptist Institute and Seminary with two students studying from his home in Minden, Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Ixkun

• ... that the Maya city of Ixkun in Guatemala erected one of the tallest stone stelae in the entire Petén Basin?

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Spanish reference AGF. Very good additions! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 14:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Lips Tullian

• ... that the comic series Lips Tullian was selected as the third most significant Czech comic in the history of the genre?

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 10:22, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Night Thoughts of a Classical Physicist

• ... that the historical novel Night Thoughts of a Classical Physicist, about the rise of modern physics, inspired a lecture by Steven Weinberg (pictured) called "Night Thoughts of a Quantum Physicist"?

Created by Ragesoss (talk), Sadads (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I added an image, Sadads (talk) 06:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Moss Landing Wildlife Area

• ... that snowy plovers nest in former salt evaporation ponds in the Moss Landing Wildlife Area?

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• The image is not used in the article.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Good point, it was not taken there, but is a very good quality shot and in California at least so I just put it in now. Thanks for the quick feedback. W Nowicki (talk) 01:04, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I am not sure that this is a good idea to add an image of a bird taken in a different place to this article. Maybe you could come up with a different hook? In any case I will leave it here and let somebody else to decide how to proceed.Good luck.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I have no problems at all with the picture. However, I do wonder about the inclusion of co-ordinates in the text? - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 06:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Couldn't find any mention of snowy plovers in the inline reference. (Removed pic in view of the foregoing). -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 14:22, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Even, if there are snowy plovers there I do not believe using of image taken in an absolutely different place is encyclopedic.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Bruce DuMont

• ... that Bruce DuMont, investigative reporter and host of Beyond the Beltway, is the nephew of the inventor of the cathode ray tube?

• Comment: this is a newly referenced BLP, so only a x2 expansion is required

5x expanded by We hope (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 13:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Michael Rimington

• ... that Michael Rimington (pictured) raised an irregular cavalry force in the Boer War, known as Rimington's Tigers?

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 23:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Santorini (wine)

• ... that when the Ottoman Turks controlled Santorini, they still permitted production of the local wine, despite Islamic laws against alcohol, and even its trade to enemies like the Russian Empire?

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Primary refs (FN #1) Oxford Companion to Wine and (FN#2) Vintage in history section, however online ref (FN#3) can also aid in verification Agne/ 00:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The ravens of the Tower of London

• ... that superstition says that if the Tower of London loses all its ravens (pictured), both the Kingdom and the Tower itself will fall?

• alt1... that the ravens of the Tower of London (pictured) are enlisted as soldiers of the Kingdom, and can be dismissed for unsatisfactory conduct?

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk) . Self nom at 23:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• I like ALT1, but it's referenced to a book published in 1926, are you sure that they are still issued with cards? SmartSE (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• I added a new reference for the alternative hook published in 2002 --Mbz1 (talk) 22:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Oh, it seems the text of that book was written in 1951. Invertzoo (talk) 14:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• OK. I have changed ALT1, took off mention of the cards.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Eliseo Medina

• ... that Eliseo Medina (pictured) is the first Mexican American to serve on the executive board of the Service Employees International Union?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• I've been looking through recently referenced BLPs to see which might be eligible for DYK under the new DYK policy, and saw this article. It's a very impressive expansion which I would have nominated had Tim not already nominated it himself. Good job! EdChem (talk) 08:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• ref fine, length OK, picture is PD. Thanks

Siege of Pensacola (1707)

• ... that 20 Province of Carolina traders and 300 Tallapoosa and Alabama Indians laid siege to Pensacola (then in Spanish Florida) in November 1707?

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

History of hotel fires in the United States

Plaque of the Winecoff Hotel fire

• ... that the 1946 Winecoff Hotel (pictured) fire in Atlanta, Georgia was the deadliest in the history of hotel fires in the United States ?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 21:21, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 03:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hook needs to be clearer that the pic is not of the Winecoff Hotel rescue. - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 04:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Removed the img of rescue operation of Dupont Plaza Hotel and replaced with img of the Winecoff Hotel. Another img of a plaque about the Winecoff fire is also added as an alternate choice.-- N.V.V. Char . 06:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Yellow-fronted Parrot

• ... that the Yellow-fronted Parrot is from Ethiopia, while the Yellow-faced Parrot (pictured) is from Brazil and Bolivia?

• Comment: hang on as I can expand other species... done

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Snowmanradio (talk), Rabo3 (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Tower of Wooden Pallets, Daniel Van Meter

• ... that a pile of junk wooden pallets (example junk pallet shown) built up by Daniel Van Meter became a cultural historic monument?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Kalvdans

• ... that Swedish emigrants brought kalvdans (pictured), a dessert made out colostrum milk, to North America?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:57, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

James A. McIntyre

• ... that California Court of Appeal Associate Justice James A. McIntyre was previously a Little League Baseball manager and University of San Diego School of Law Adjunct Professor of Law?

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

The Obama Identity

• ... that in the novel The Obama Identity, Sean Hannity is depicted interviewing a conservative activist who believes that John F. Kennedy is still alive, that the moon landings were faked and that 9/11 was an inside job?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Multiple issues tags present, sourcing is thin, text is mostly plot-related, and the 'article' from Vanity Fair is a single paragraph introducing an excerpt from the novel. - Dravecky (talk) 07:59, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 5

1. New Article:

Joe Matthews (politician)

• ... that both Joe Matthews and his father were charged with and acquitted of Treason in 1956?

Created by Namiba (talk). Self nom at 01:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Congo Free State campaign against the Arabo-Swahilis

A mustaschioed white man in khaki and African hat stands, arms crossed, in front of black soldiers in red hats carrying rifles, Belgian and Congolese flags.

• ... that during the campaign against the Arabo-Swahilis, Baron Dhanis (pictured) allowed his men to bring their wives, slaves and servants along with his army?

Created by Cerebellum (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 18:08, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita

• ... that nematode Phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita is used to kill slug pests?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 12:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that nematode Phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita is used in biological pest control of slugs?

--Snek01 (talk) 19:52, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Fastolf

• ... that the 14th century Englishman Thomas Fastolf is the first known to have reported cases in the papal court known as the Rota?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Katy Munger

• ... that Katy Munger is known for her writing in the Tart Noir genre?

• Comment: this is a newly referenced BLP, so only a x2 expansion is required

5x expanded by Silver seren (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 09:33, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Alt: ... that Katy Munger has written three separate book series, two of them with two different pseudonyms, Gallagher Gray and Chaz McGee? Silverseren 04:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

A. M. M. Naushad

• ... that Sri Lankan politician A. M. M. Naushad, as Deputy Secretary of the UNP, created a problem for his party leader by advocating his view that "his community came first and the party next"?

• Comment: this is a newly referenced BLP, so only a x2 expansion is required

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 06:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Teodoro Cano García

• ... that artist Teodoro Cano García was discovered by Diego Rivera and is known for his works depicting the Totonac culture of his native Papantla?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1992 Winter Olympics

• ... that the speed skating venue for the 1992 Winter Olympics in Albertville was the last one to be held outdoors?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

St Peter's Church, Kingerby

• ... that in St Peter's Church, Kingerby, Lincolnshire, (pictured) is a slab carved with the effigy of a knight whose lower body and legs have been replaced by a cross?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Henry Hotel

• ... that the namesake of the Patrick Henry Hotel (pictured) in Roanoke, Virginia is the American Founding Father Patrick Henry?

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

1933 NFL Championship Game

• ... that the NFL's first championship game was won by Chicago over New York via a successful hook and ladder play run by the Bears with less than two minutes remaining?

5x expanded by AaronY (talk). Self nom at 21:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Sandy Cape Light

• ... that access to the 1870 construction site of Sandy Cape Light on Fraser Island, Queensland, Australia was so steep, materials were raised the final 50 metres (160 ft) with a horse powered whim?

• ALT1:... that the 1870 established Sandy Cape Light is the tallest lighthouse in Queensland, Australia?
• Comment: I am hesitant about ALT1 because I would like to state the height, but there are two contradicting sources with 26m and 33m. I'd love a good idea on how to do this in a DYK.

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

This is just a suggestion, and the intended wordplay may work better in some regions than others, but how about -

ALT2: ... that access to the 1870 construction site of Sandy Cape Light on Fraser Island, Queensland, Australia was so steep, materials were raised on a whim?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure on a whim is proper English (as it is a tool), but if it is, I like it.--Muhandes (talk) 23:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Frantisek Janecek

• ... that Frantisek Janecek, founder of Jawa motorcycles, was originally famous as the inventor of the Janecek hand grenade?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date are good. This ref(#1) needs to be figured out. How about a picture of the hand grenade? The Interior(Talk) 10:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

•  Done decided to scrap the 'translated' ref as the Jawa History is a good source and covers it OK - a picture of the hand granade is a good challenge and I may be able to get one donated from the web site and through OTRS but needn't delay DYK Thanks Thruxton (talk) 13:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Shouldn't the article be at František Janeček? It's a Czech name, after all. — Toдor Boжinov — 19:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agree. Todor, if you are sure the accents are correct, and Thruxton, if you agree, I will request the move (can't be simple moved because of redirect). The Interior(Talk) 23:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• I considered this but decided that, as the article is on English Misplaced Pages, I should use the English spelling (as used in the main references) and create redirects for the two other variations. I hope this doesn't the DYK but will check with Misplaced Pages Biography for guidance and go with the consensus Thruxton (talk) 20:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agreed with Todor because the majority of our Czech bios use the Czech accents, but if this is contentious, I will let it be. What does the MOS say on accents, Thruxton? The Interior(Talk) 22:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Street Racer (Atari 2600)

• ... that Activision founder Larry Kaplan called Street Racer the one game he wished he'd done differently?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 18:09, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Giovanni Gaetano Orsini (cardinal)

• ... that Giovanni Gaetano, Cardinal Orsini, shared all his names with Pope Nicholas III (pictured)?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Doesn't strike me as all that unusual. How about an alt? Gatoclass (talk) 12:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm happy with the original hook, but if anyone can find an alt which is better, please do suggest it. Failing that, this one will surely do. Moonraker2 (talk) 08:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Just by way of clarification, as the nominator of the article, it's not up to you to decide whether or not your hook is appropriate. Such matters are decided by independent reviewers. It's not at all unusual for children to be named after relations so I find this hook less than compelling. I was hoping you'd be able to suggest one but if not, maybe someone else can. Gatoclass (talk) 14:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• I propose ALT1: ... that Giovanni Gaetano Orsini was the nephew of Pope Nicholas III, a legate for Pope John XXII, drove Antipope Nicholas V from Rome, and helped elect Pope Benedict XII to the papacy? - Tim1965 (talk) 03:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Project Isinglass

• ... that the CIA's Project Isinglass spyplane would have overflown the Soviet Union at suborbital altitude and Mach 22, making it immune to interception by SAMs?

• Comment: Although significantly expanded and improved in all respects, this article has not been expanded by 5x. However, virtually all of the article in its previous state was a cut-and-paste copyvio from here.

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agree that the prose requirement should be loosened due to the blatant copyvio. Length and date verified. However, I would prefer to use something a bit more concrete for the hook, as Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball. How about this:

• ALT1: "... that the second Project Isinglass spyplane was designed to fly at Mach 22?"

• Any science or warfare nerd should find this interesting. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 6

Venues of the 1992 Summer Olympics

• ... that three venues of the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona were located near a street circuit used for Formula One and MotoGP racing from the 1950s to the 1970s?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 23:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

A. T. Powers

• ... that pastor A. T. Powers, president of the American Baptist Assn. from 1957–59, once led a blue collar church in Monticello, Arkansas, which paid him only $12.50 per month?

ALT... that pastor A. T. Powers, president of the American Baptist Assn. from 1957–59, sustained a lifelong knee injury while undergoing military training during World War I?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Kunitz domain

• ... that Kunitz domains, the active protein domains of certain protease inhibitors, are used for the development of new drugs?

Created by Anypodetos (talk), Boghog (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

List of U.S. Routes in New Mexico

• ... that there are about 2,980 miles (4,800 km) of U.S. Routes in the U.S. state of New Mexico, including U.S. Route 491, which was formerly U.S. Route 666?

• ALT1:... that the Devils Highway makes up part of the 2,980 miles (4,800 km) of U.S. Routes in the U.S. state of New Mexico?

Created by Admrboltz (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Educational goals of Sesame Street

• ... that the educational goals of the children's television show Sesame Street included both cognitive and affective goals?

Created by Christine (talk). Forked article from parent article Sesame Street, but content created by nominator. Self nom at 13:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Benton Cooley

• ... that Thomas Benton Cooley was inducted into the Legion of Honour for his work with the children of France during World War I and later discovered "Cooley's anemia"?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:08, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Hatt-i humayun (government document)

• ... that during the creation of the Ottoman Archives in the 19th century, hatt-i humayuns were cut out from their documents without cross-referencing, resulting in great loss of information to historians?

Created by İnfoCan (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 183

• ... that according to Frederick Henry Ambrose Scrivener Lectionary 183 (pictured) probably is the most valuable manuscript he had ever collated?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Tiger of Pilibhit

• ... that the Tiger of Pilibhit was reportedly responsible for killing and partially eating eight people before being captured?

Created by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Thomas R. Potts

• ... that the first mayor (pictured) of Saint Paul, Minnesota was a physician?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Samarium, Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets

• ... that samarium (pictured) was the first chemical element named after a person, Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets?

• Comment: I know samarium expansion is a bit short of 5x (4.81), but kindly ask an exception for a 50k+ article. Refs: . First ref is from the Royal Society, second is sort of self-published, but its every statement is "flyoverlinked" to a WP:RS making it the most comprehensive page on the history of this element. Materialscientist (talk) 06:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Very nice expansion. Dates fine, expansion ratio close enough, lengths otherwise fine, references fine too. Good to go. 28bytes (talk) 04:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Cycas rumphii

• ... that although the seeds of Cycas rumphii contain a toxic glucoside, they can be made edible by pounding, washing and cooking?

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 04:00, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 7

Confession (TV series)

• ... that the ABC reality show Confession (1958-59) featured convicted criminals discussing the circumstances which propelled them into a life of lawlessness?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Catherine Yurievskaya

• ... that Princess Catherine Yurievskaya, the daughter of Czar Alexander II (pictured), became a professional singer?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 10:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Norman Thaddeus Vane

• ... that screenwriter and film director Norman Thaddeus Vane referenced the 1931 movie Dracula in his work Shadow of the Hawk?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Bill Mizeur

• ... that Bill Mizeur never batted under .300 until his 14th season in professional baseball?

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 06:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Christopher Green (physician)

• that as Regius Professor of Physic at Cambridge for over forty years, Christopher Green did "little if any teaching"?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 06:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

My Old Dutch, Charles Ingle

Sample from 1899 recording of "My Old Dutch"

• ... that Charles Ingle, who composed the music for "My Old Dutch" (1899 sample right), gained his pseudonym during a "spirit of waggery"?

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what the dealio is with formatting or wording hooks with sound (rather than pictures); I'm open to ideas or changes! matt (talk) 23:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Moved here from December 2, the articles were created December 7. —Bruce1ee 06:26, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and online hook refs verified, offline refs accepted in good faith. No problem with the audio clip, we've featured them before. —Bruce1ee 06:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for moving the hook, I have no idea why I put it in Dec 2... matt (talk) 07:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Westerman Lumber Office and House

• ... that the Westerman Lumber Office and House is now home to Big Honza, who is bigger, smarter and wiser than Paul Bunyan?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 06:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Boesch, Hummel, and Maltzahn Block

• ... that a turning enthusiast built the most elaborate commercial building (pictured) in New Ulm, Minnesota?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 05:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Graham Blyth

• ... that before he co-founded Soundcraft, Graham Blyth helped build the mixing console used by Emerson, Lake & Palmer at the Isle of Wight Festival 1970?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 05:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Constance Ortmayer

• ... that Constance Ortmayer designed a commemorative coin (pictured) for the anniversary of an event that never happened?

Created by RHM22 (talk). Self nom at 04:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Ellis Remy

• ... that English-born footballer Ellis Remy was sent-off on his international debut for Montserrat in October 2010?

Created by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Helena Bliss

• ... that Helena Bliss married her co-star from the original Broadway production of Gypsy Lady?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Viveros de Coyoacán

• ... that the Viveros de Coyoacán was the first tree nursery in Mexico and the first large scale tree nursery in Latin America ?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 04:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Lin Chi-ling

• ... that Taiwanese supermodel Lin Chi-ling (pictured) double-majored in art history and economics at the University of Toronto?

5x expanded by White whirlwind (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Untitled Spider-Man Reboot

• ... that Sony plans to develop a Spider-Man reboot starring Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man that will be released in 2011 in 3-D?

Created by Jhenderson777 (talk), -5- (talk). Nominated by Jhenderson777 (talk) at 01:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Jennifer Rubin (journalist)

• ... that the new Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin wrote in 2009 that Obama is “the most anti-Israel U.S. President (ever)”?

Created by User:Mhym (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

San Francisco City Clinic

• ... that San Francisco City Clinic (pictured) is a unique municipal sexual health center that serves people over the age of 11 and opened in 1933?

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article had 560 characters of prose five days ago and 1770 now, so it has not been 5x expanded yet. - PM800 (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay i added a lot of content, how bout now?THISBITES 01:15, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• It has technically been expanded enough now. However, most of the article's references are just the SFCC's own website, which isn't a very reliable source. Also, I don't think the "Transportation" section is necessary. - PM800 (talk) 02:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Romanian football champions

• ... that the winner of the first Romanian football championship held between 1909 and 1910 was Olympia Bucureşti?

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 19:25, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Nice work there! Length and date are obviously okay, and I was able to verify the hook ref. I do believe the actual list part has to be in some way directly referenced though. At the moment, it appears to be missing inline citations. — Toдor Boжinov — 19:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The ref for this hook is in the ninth paragraph in History - ASAR, Herzog ... I didn't rely on the table for the hook. BineMai 19:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• I understand this, I said I was able to verify the hook :) The thing is, a piece has to be thoroughly referenced to appear on DYK. I don't think we have a rule of thumb for lists, but for articles, there has to be at least one footnote for every paragraph. — Toдor Boжinov — 21:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can someone weigh in as to whether the "Performances" section is referenced well enough for DYK? "Winners" is all good now, but I'm not sure how DYK referencing rules apply to lists... — Toдor Boжinov — 10:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Wormy hillock henge

• ... that according to legend, Wormy hillock henge is the burial site of a dragon?

Created by Reaper Eternal. Self nom 16:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hook fact is not in citation given. Additionally, some sentences appear to be way too closely paraphrased from their sources. Needs rework. –Grondemar 13:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Western Wood (MP)

• ... that the City of London MP Western Wood was an uncle of Kitty O'Shea, whose involvement with Charles Stuart Parnell destroyed his political career?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Penlee Lifeboat Station

• ... that on December 19, 1981, the entire crew of the Penlee Lifeboat were killed trying to rescue people from a ship in a storm, but sufficient volunteers came forward within a day to form a new lifeboat crew?

• Comment: To feature on December 19 if possible

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Umm... What do you mean by "The disaster prompted a massive public appeal...which raised over 1.8 million as of 20103000000"? For some reason, I cannot go to the source since it just gives me a list of links. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

This link says the appeal "raised over £3M." Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 17:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

- Issue fixed, so approved. (An admin can put it into the queue for December 19th.) Great job! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Songs of the Sea

• ... that Songs of the Sea is the world's only permanent musical fountain show set in the sea?

Created by Iluvml93 (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Burnham Area Rescue Boat

• ... that the boathouse for the Burnham Area Rescue Boat was built in just three days as part of the Challenge Anneka television series?

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 08:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith)

• ... that Jeremiah Dummer (1643–1718) was the first American-born silversmith?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Peacekeeper Rail Garrison Car

• ... that the Peacekeeper Rail Garrison Car was designed to not only hide the LGM-118 Peacekeeper ICBM missile from Soviet attack but also act as a platform to launch the missile?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 06:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• No inline cites; essentially word-for-word the USAF document. While it is, indeed, public domain, that isn't suited for DYK. However, I will be working on this article to bring it up to Misplaced Pages standards. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Article has now been completely re-written and referenced to the USAF document. Will add more references later. As I'm now a co-author, obviously somebody else will need to review this. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:15, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Prince George Alexandrovich Yurievsky

• ... that Tsar Alexander II regarded his morganatic son Prince George Alexandrovich Yurievsky as a "true Russian", causing rumors that he was considering giving him dynastic rights?

ALT1: ... that due to the growing dangers from radical groups, Tsar Alexander II moved his mistress and illegitimate son Prince George Alexandrovich Yurievsky to the Winter Palace, where his dying wife already resided?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 03:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Rhys Jones (soldier)

• ... that New Zealand Army officer Rhys Jones (pictured) is to be the next Chief of the Defence Force, after being told in 2000 he would receive no further promotions?

Created by XLerate (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Walking Dead (season 1)

• ... that the finale of The Walking Dead garnered six million viewers, and among adults ages 18-49 it became the most viewed basic cable drama series of all time?

Created by SchrutedIt08 (talk). Nominated by Venustas 12 (talk) at 07:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Removed non-free image. Materialscientist (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• In addition to making sure that all of the content (of the article) is appropriate ,copyvio free ,accurate,and well sourced we should pay attention to ] Venustas 12 (talk) 07:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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Gillian McKeith (song)

• ... that Brett Domino's song about Gillian McKeith was inspired by her exploits on I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!?

Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 10:48, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that a song by an internet star charted higher than The Beatles?

A Discourse on the Study of the Law

• ... that Sir William Blackstone's A Discourse on the Study of the Law was his only work to survive its various editions without alterations by the author?

Just over 1.8k minus the longarse quotes. Created by Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Santa Santita

• ... that after acquiring the script for Santa Santita, the director did not start production for four years due to the lack of an appropriate lead actress?

Created by Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 01:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Gryllotalpa orientalis

• ... that the oriental mole cricket, Gryllotalpa orientalis, can not only dig a burrow a metre deep but can also swim?

Created by Cwnhiraeth (talk). Self nomination at 6:33, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 8

Alberto Davila

• ... that boxer Alberto Davila won the World Boxing Council bantamweight championship after a period of retirement, in which he worked as a beer delivery man?

• Comment: This is a previously unsourced BLP that has undergone a 2x expansion. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 14:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Liberian general election, 1927

• ... that the 1927 presidential election in Liberia made it into the Guiness Book of Records as the most fraudulent ever?

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 13:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Peter White (Michigan)

• ... that in 1857, Peter White (pictured) of Marquette was a storekeeper, lawyer, county clerk, registrar of deeds, school board treasurer, postmaster, customs collector, state representative, and a newlywed?

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• For a quick citation check of most of this, see here. Marriage date is verified in Williams, page 157 (and the other offices are also in Williams). Andrew Jameson (talk) 12:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

London Pneumatic Despatch Company

• ... that in 1863 the 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos was propelled underground from Holborn to Euston Railway station in a parcel capsule to demonstrate the system built by the London Pneumatic Despatch Company?

Created by Andrewrabbott (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Arthur Lea

• ... that despite having only one arm, Arthur Lea played international football for Wales?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources verified. - PM800 (talk) 09:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Laserblast

• ... that the science fiction film Laserblast consistently ranks among the Internet Movie Database's bottom 100 films list, and was featured in the last episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000 broadcast on Comedy Central?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

BGM-75 AICBM

• ... that silos for the Advanced Intercontinental Ballistic Missile were intended to be 10 times harder than those used by Minutemen?

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Shaki, Azerbaijan

• ... that in Leo Tolstoy's well-known Hadji Murat novel, the city of Shaki (pictured) in Azerbaijan had selected as place of events?

Created by --NovaSkola (talk) 04:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC) (UTC)

• Article has not been recently created or 5x expanded. Recent expansion is from 4512 to 7826 characters of prose, less than 2x. Many unreferenced paragraphs. No mention of hook fact in the article. — Toдor Boжinov — 10:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Matthew Scarlett's toepoke

• ... that Matthew Scarlett's toepoke led to the winning goal in the 2009 AFL Grand Final?

Created by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• I must confess that I am minded to propose this article for deletion. Since when does one kick warrant an article of its own? Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Since it was the subject of substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject, same as anything else that meets the WP:GNG. I'm not sure what the issue is. We have oodles of articles on individual plays in American football, and most of those are not sourced as well as this. Reyk _YO! 08:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

2010 Dallas Cowboys season

• ... that Peyton Manning got picked off 11 times in three consecutive games after the Cowboys beat them?

5x expanded by Minimac (talk). Self nom at 08:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Though interesting, the article does not seem to include the fact that you've mentioned for your hook. Could you add it into the article? Nomader 09:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• It needs a lot more references, as well. In fact, the season won't be finished for another few weeks, so the article isn't finished either. Per rule D7, I don't think it's eligible. - PM800 (talk) 09:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
• (Edit conflict) Dunno how I missed it, but the article doesn't qualify for 5x expansion; it was last expanded that much seventy days ago according to DYKcheck, looks like the tool bugged out on me before. I looked through the history and I don't see recent enough expansion for it to qualify either. Nomader 09:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh right. I thought you had to add a specific target number of bytes to add like 1,500 bytes. I didn't know it had to be expanded 5 times as much. Minimac (talk) 15:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Chrysler Classic Racing

• ... that IGN's Adam Ballard described the Wii video game Chrysler Classic Racing as "basically one giant, terrible commercial"?

• ALT1:... that Chrysler Classic Racing is the first racing game to feature exclusively Chrysler vehicles for the Wii and the Nintendo DS?

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For December 10

This nomination has an unusual history, having been nominated originally for a date-specific spot on October 28. The discussion WT:DYK#Hook with Oct 28 request date explains the situation. Pursuant to that discussion, Paralympiakos and I request that the two articles Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks that were moved to article space on 24 October, now be held for a December 10 hook. These two mixed martial arts fighters were due to face each other in a championship bout on October 28; their bout was postponed at the last moment. On December 10, there will be three bouts for inaugural global championship (different weight divisions) and our intention is for a 6-article hook for that date. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

The goal 6-article hook would be something like:

* ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Tom Gallicchio vs. Shamil Zavurov) middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) MMA Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?

Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Tom Gallicchio, Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at TIME and DATE to follow.

Updating work on these articles will be completed over the next few weeks in user space; the four new articles will be moved into article space in early December. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Update - Gallicchio has been replaced. New hook:

• ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Shamil Zavurov vs. Abner Lloveras), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) mixed martial arts Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?

Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Created by EdChem (talk). Self nom at 06:01, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

The Lloveras article already exists but is poor, it could be a x5 expansion nomination but I won't get to work on it until tonight. Paralympiakos and I worked on two of these, I did the other three alone, so have commented out new DYKmakes just above this comment. Ideally, the hook would appear in the noon time slot in London, which covers the four hours before the event begins. EdChem (talk) 06:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

December 25 2010

Wannalancit Mills

• ... that the Wannalancit Mill Complex is normally the site of a 256 foot tall Christmas tree for the past ten years, but was without it this year because of the cost of lighting over 5,000 bulbs?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Unto Us is Born a Son

• ... that although first published in the 1582 songbook Piae Cantiones (pictured), the Christmas carol Unto Us is Born a Son may be derived from 12th and 13th century French organum repertories?

New article by Rob (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC) . It would be quite nice to see this up sometime on or after the 28th November (1st day of Advent), although any time in the Christmas period would be good.

• A very nice well-referenced article with an offline citation accepted IGF. Just a little point; we need a reference to the image, something like (x pictured) — then it's fine. And, why not nominate it for Christmas Day itself (no nominations yet, and more appropriate than in Advent)?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added the little description. It would be quite nice to see it on Christmas day I suppose, although I assumed that because it's already written it wouldn't pass the "new article" criteria. (I thought it was more useful to post the article before Christmas than wait until nearer the day in case somebody looks it up for a carol service!) Is there a holding area for Christmas day I could add it to? Rob (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• That's fine now. Suggest moving it into the Special occasion holding area under a heading "December 25 (Christmas Day)" or something like that.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks, placed in holding area. Rob (talk) 10:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Late December 2010

Circumcision of Jesus

• ... that the Gospel of Luke states that the Circumcision of Jesus (pictured) took place eight days after his birth?

• Comment: I have a special date request for this one. The Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is January 1, and this would be especially appropriate for that day. In lieu of that, December 25 would be appropriate. Raul654 (talk) 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by Raul654 (talk) and User:Johnbod. Self nom at 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Image fine, refs look good, removed stub assessment, but not sure you are allowed an external in line ref in the text? Although I agree it looks neat here. Tick when resolved Victuallers (talk) 23:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you're talking about the {{Bibleverse-nb}} template, that's the correct way to cite a Bible verse on Misplaced Pages. – iridescent 23:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I was, so Victuallers (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I've added myself to the nom, as I wrote most of it. Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the artist in the caption here and in the article, the painting illustrated is by Friedrich Herlin, not Fritz Herlen. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Cincinnati Riot of 1853

• … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?

  This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Andrew McKinley, Leon Lishner

• ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Mark Miodownik

• ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

• ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

• ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
  Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. ALT2 is a better hook than ALT1, but it would be better still on OTD than DYK (it would get more readers that way, as well). Physchim62 (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - ALT1 is just a boost or peacock term on FBI. ALT2 is better, but I did not feel it to be so special to be included in DYK. -- Rajith Mohan 06:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose per Arsenikk. Send to OTD instead. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
• Support For the reasons stated above.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
• Support For the reasons that mentioned above.--NovaSkola (talk) 08:12, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

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