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About Bhagat Singh's Arrest in Dusara Bomb Case

Dear concerned, I appreciate your efforts for helping in editing and revising the article on Bhagat Singh. I had added information regarding the said topic along with the required citation, which was removed by you in an attempt to improve the article by removal of original researches, and the citation proves the information to be a fact rather than original research. I request you to go through the citation and read through the comment on the Bhagat Singh Talk page that I've added. Thank you for your sincere efforts. - Ashubhalaa (talk) 06:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

About Kotkapura Article

Someone named Sardar Ujjal Singh was governor of Punjab province from 1/9/65 until 26/6/66. This may make him notable, assuming that this is the same person as the astrologer, which I consider somewhat unlikely (Very many Sikhs in Punjab). I spent over twenty minutes googling various combinations of his name and astrologer/astrology, and didn't come up with anything coherent, or really anything useful at all. Now, it is entirely possible that astrologers are too busy looking at stars to bother making a webpage, and that their followers are too busy living their lives by the stars. India is an enormous and somewhat undeveloped country with more people than my mind can really comprehend - with population(as well as belief system(s), education, and technology) what they are in India, I could also see where this man has been very influential in the lives of very many people. More influential, and to more people, than many contemporary English Fiction authors and pop music writers, many of whom have their own WikiPedia page without "notability" tags. Really, this page might be able to use an "expert attention" tag.. (Attention from an expert in what, though?!) I can certainly see, however, where this section you dispute has POV problems... As well as your deletion of it. On a more personal note, sorry if my tone has been somewhat terse and acerbic; I've just fought with Windows Vista and my ISP for an hour or more, and had to rewrite a longer and better worded post. I posted something very similar to this on Talk:Kotkapura as well. Nowhere near as well worded as what I had written, I swear.. Also, you ought consider making a userpage for User:Profitoftruth85 as well - that's you, and you're redlinked. (On a sidenote, after looking at the article, but before reading the talk page and your posts to user_talk:Hydrogen_Iodide, I considered slapping you with a uw-delete1. However, I decided against this because you were civil, and explained your rationale. Now, I am completely undecided on the issue, and I think it needs expert attention. If you decide to take on this article yourself, and want any copyediting or other minor help.. Let me know on my talk page; I'm a historian and philosopher by education and a construction worker by trade. Beats me if I really would be any use.)

𝕭𝖗𝔦𝔞𝔫𝕶𝔫𝔢𝔷 02:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Edit War

I think your best bet is to highlight this as breaking the 3reverts rule and taking it from there to Edit war.--Sikh-history (talk) 11:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

info. box changes

You have recently changed several of the information boxes regarding battles of the First and Second Anglo-Sikh wars. Replacing Khalsa by Sikh Empire might not be controversial, but you exchanged the sides for the combatants so that the Sikhs appeared to be led by British generals and vice versa. Likewise, the strengths and casualties were reversed. When making such changes to an info. box, all the information must be switched to avoid incorrect details. HLGallon (talk) 22:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 23:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

• Please refrain from creating articles with insufficient context to identify the subject and which only consist of two sentences. Thanks. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I did delete them, but I can restore them for you. Sorry about the inconvenience. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:11, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Great job!

		The Citation Barnstar
		Profitoftruth85 has been awarded "The Citation Barnstar" for provide references and in-line citations to previously unsourced material and deleted statements..... Moxy (talk) 00:44, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

War of 1812

The failure of Britain to abandon the posts on what became US territory per the Treaty of Paris (1783) is not relevant to the War of 1812. Jay's Treaty of 1794 solved this issue, as well as the failure of the US to observe the same treaty and pay debts to British creditors. Historians cite issues about maritime disputes, the problem with the Indians, impressment, and the claim that the US wanted to annex Canada. Dwalrus (talk) 01:53, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Re:Khalistan movement edit summary

What I meant was that, in the previous version of the article, there was written 'in 2009'. This seems to have been added during the year 2009 wth the intention of it meaning 'this year'. However, because the year has passed, it is no longer meaning 'this year'. And if there was a year, the year given would have to be updated every year. Thus, it is best not to include any year when the meaning is basically 'as of now'. Did I explain that well enough? Munci (talk) 23:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Regarding the Battle of Attock Article

When you are finished making your revisions, please feel free to remove the under construction template, I added it to keep your article safe from speedy deletion (or a PROD) in case someone didn't see your edit note prior to there being any content up. Great work by the way! ialsoagree (talk) 15:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

re:help

Well. i haven't been editing much of the English Misplaced Pages (well i was mostly involved with list articles and episode pages on eng wiki) recently or Punjabi wikipedia either. I am on and off because of college. I havn't really seen or contacted anyone that edits sikhism articles on english wiki, so i can';t really be sure who's active and who's not. there aren't much editors on Punjabi Misplaced Pages either. well, maybe you could ask people on sikhiwiki, i think and User:Hpt_lucky (this one his english wiki user page User:Harisingh and User:Hpt_lucky, ythough i think they can be reached quickly on sikhiwiki rather than this wiki) I think you will find some editors that edit sikhiwiki and were at some point active on english wiki page. or someone else at that wiki might help. I don;t really know anyone that active on english wiki. Im sorry, i'm not much help i guess. pa:User:Guglani might help with some, but I've only seen him come on like once a month or several months after sometime of punjabi wiki. Gman124 14:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Valcour Island

Irgun

The following categories:

- British Mandate of Palestine

- Pre-IDF military units

- Militant Zionist groups

- Yishuv

- Revisionist Zionism

- Zionist terrorism

- Jews and Judaism-related controversies...

were removed from the Irgun's article because already are in the main category of this organization.

The only category I completely deleted is history of Israel, because the category British Mandate of Palestine is already included in Israel's history category.

I hope this explanation be helpful for you. Greetings--AndresHerutJaim (talk) 04:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

People use to commit that mistake. See here.--AndresHerutJaim (talk) 04:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

On the contrary, users can find everything related to "Irgun" easily, just in one single correct place.--AndresHerutJaim (talk) 04:38, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't agree. I think categories are confusing to navigation if they are redundant. Should we ask for some kind of mediation in this dispute?--AndresHerutJaim (talk) 04:48, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Alternate Sikh Empire Flag.svg

Thank you for uploading this media,

However, it would be nice if you could give some kind of indication as to what license the media is under. That way other people can be confident in making use of it for many varied purposes :)

Adding license information also helps prevent media you've put effort into creating from being deleted :)

You may wish to read Misplaced Pages:Image_copyright_tags#For_image_creators which will assist you :)

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Edits on Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh

Hi,

Is your other problem with the source "the writer of the article has POV issues"? What is the basis of your claim? The edit referring to this article does not use anything the writer is saying. So POV should not be a problem here. A reliable source, TNIE, is being used here to get info about a white paper by government. White papers are accessible via RTI for public reference. So Even if there is a POV issue with the writer, this particular edit is under criticism section. Arguments and counter-arguments are necessary to be mentioned to make the section balanced and neutral as far as possible.

--Deshabhakta (talk) 15:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The problem is the article on TNIE is an editorial in the opinions section of the newspaper, its not in the news section. So this isn't really about the reliability of TNIE but about the reliability of that opinion piece. I'm not removing any information I just read them and thought they would be challenged later on. I inserted the better source template so another editor with more knowledge on this white paper would find a more reliable source.

I also understand what you're saying about POV being needed to balance the article, however, it's important that POV sources not be used to quote primary sources, because they could make their own intrepretaion seem like the reality.

--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 18:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

wp:edit summaries

... are always a great idea. In that specific case, my revert was a screwup, and no, I have no idea what I intended to do... whatever it was, it failed. Thanks for noticing.- Sinneed 06:54, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

I am betting I saw that as *removing* (reading the diff backward) the content, rather than adding it... then the ES would be needed to avoid wp:blanking unexplained-removal-of-content. In any event, thanks again for catching my error.- Sinneed 07:00, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Kiladar

I have nominated Kiladar, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kiladar. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Dengero (talk) 11:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Recognition

		The WikiChevrons
		Awarded to User:Profitoftruth85 for your article Battle of Attock, an outstanding contribution to the area of military history. Doc Tropics 17:09, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:Military of India. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. BilCat (talk) 10:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

• I've removed the "warning" issued by the IP user. It is probable that the same person is using several IPs to revert you, and thus is "baiting" you into getting a block, while escaping one themselves. It's tough, but you need to back of the reverting for awhile, and try other means, such as protecting the page. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: little help

Regarding your message on my talk page about Attock. Yes they are two separate towns. Attock Khurd is the historical town where the battle took place. The distinction is important as the current capital is also known as Attock (was originally Campbellpur, founded by the British in 1908). Rzafar (talk) 08:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC) == Regarding signing of posts on RSS page ==

Dear friend thanks for your advice and i am fallowing it but i think there is some technical issue at my side and i am unable to solve it due to my lack of knowledge. If you can help me or guide me for the same. I using that sign of pencil but still the sign is not posted in proper way....regards --Sandeep 04:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandeepsp4u (talk • contribs)

Well done

Well done on your input on article Misl. Might I make a suggestion that you may find some other references, eg Bhaghat Siinghs book on Misls etc. Thanks and Keep it Up --Sikh-History 07:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Jatt Mutation

Please do not restart the edit war here which me and several editors were at pains to resolve. The change in edit is very mischievous, and seeks to deny any connection between Jats and Roma. The quotation from the article was left in so as to leave no abiguity. Thanks --Sikh-History 21:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Map of Northern India

Hello! You uploaded File:NORTHERN_INDIA_1780_by_hellbat.jpg which was deleted. It is now back and permission has been confirmed. Nillerdk (talk) 20:10, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Operation Blue Star

I have added this link that refers to operation Blue Star as a massacre. Any views? Thanks --Sikh-History 12:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I think too often important information can get deleted from wikipedia because of a lack of reliable sources. It was good you found a source to back up that view because obviously many people feel that way. --Profitoftruth85 (talk) 15:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Ranjit Singh

Did you add the pic of the Maharaj? If so, good job! Gorkhali (talk) 00:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear friend,

Yes I will definitely help out with the article, I added the aftermath of what happened to his family. I have a deep interest in the article because we are related to the Maharaja through matrimonial ties.

However, I am glad to see you on the scene because it becomes frustrating dealing with POVs and political agenda type edits.

Again, thanks for the great work you're doing!

Gorkhali (talk) 21:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Guru Hargobind

Page has been moved to Guru Hargobind.

Sorry you didn't get a response quickly in the live help - usually we respond quick there, but we were a little busy at the time. But I did note your request, and checked to see if it could be done later. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

.......for your improvements to Indian religions and Religion in India.--Indian Chronicles (talk) 04:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment! If you are interested I think you should add more of a Jain perspective to the articles. Right now they seem a bit weighted against the idea of Jainism and Buddhism as separate religions, perhaps you could split them into separate sections? thanks for the compliment anyway!--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 04:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Mediation

Please, since the entire goal of mediation is to get you to talk to each other, I'm here to please ask you to refrain from edits such as this in future.

Wikireader41, this is a mediation, not an opportunity for you to start frothing at the mouth about Pakistan.

This is an ad hominem that adds nothing to your position, but poisons the well. Salvio ( ) 12:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Curiosity

If you wish to link to a category and not insert an article into it, you can write ]; for instance, ] gives you Category:Massacres in places of worship. Hope this helps. Salvio 17:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Creation myths

What is this about? I've been busting butt to clean this page up. Professor marginalia (talk) 22:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I assumed you were a vandal because the entire page was blanked for one reason or another. I don't know if you are going to find some sources and improve the article because otherwise alot of information was deleted.--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 22:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

No, it's been painstaking work involving identifying relevant merges, creation of new main articles, checking copyright infringements, and trying to locate WP:RS for the unsourced content. The article is being rebuilt to discuss the topic and themes of creation myths. Before it was like trying to write an article about Religion or Mythology with nothing but a long list of every religion on the planet or every myth ever told. But no problem...thanks for the reply. Professor marginalia (talk) 22:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey buddy go right ahead if you're rewriting it, you got no problem with me. List of Creation mythologies is currently a redirect that might better service the original role before your rewrite btw.--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 22:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the wl. That will be useful. That's an excellent place to do some assembling. There's a lot of work to do. Thanks! Professor marginalia (talk) 23:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Bali (sacrifice)

Thanks for your help on this article. I think the editor Pectore is trying to engage people in edit wars. He tries to WP:Censor, quotations he does not agree with. Thanks --Sikh-History 07:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

You input maybe useful here too. Thanks--Sikh-History 08:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-07-17/Operation Blue Star

I'm closing the case as stale, after a week of inactivity; should this dispute flare up again, feel free to reopen without prejudice. Salvio 14:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Singh Sabha (redirect)

Hello. Please do not replace Misplaced Pages pages with blank content. Blank pages are harmful to Misplaced Pages because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If you believe that the redirect Singh Sabha should be deleted, list it at WP:RFD with your rationale for deletion. Thank you. Jon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.50.205 (talk) 22:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Ghadar Party

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Ghadar Party. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.] (talk · contribs) 13:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Ranjit Singh's Tomb - pg 15 -The last voyage - Annie Brassey.jpg missing description details

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File:Jamrud Fort - pg 18 -The last voyage - Annie Brassey.jpg missing description details

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File:Amritsar - pg 18 -The last voyage - Annie Brassey.jpg missing description details

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Talkback

Re: Edit War

I know this editor has tried to engage you in edit wars. Do not get drawn in or revert the page more than twice or you may find yourself blocked. Instead inform me or an Administrator and maybe we can reason with him. At the moment he has been blocked again. Hopefully we can make him understand teh Misplaced Pages rules. Thanks --SH 23:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: Guru Nanak Dev

Hi fellow editor, I would like to commend you on your great work on this site. I have one question however. I noticed you removed a certain editor (who tends to have a pro-Brahmanical stance on most articles), additions. Do you think there is any harm in letting it stay? He will only start an edit war when he comes back from his two week ban? Thanks--SH 21:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I haven't seen him actually add any meaningful information to articles. His MO seems to be just adding his caste name to prominent people, so yeah I think there is harm in letting him stay. He's getting in the way by taking up the time of people who are adding to articles.--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough, but let me know if he causes any trouble. Thanks --SH 20:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

You Query

Raise it as WP:AN/I. Thanks--SH 09:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

ANI Notice

I see you haven't been notified about the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing - Systematical removal of edits out of religious prejudice regarding an issue with which you have been involved. Dougweller (talk) 08:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Citation

Hello. You have a new message at Template talk:Terrorist organisations active in India's talk page.

abhishek singh (talk) 04:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Flags of Indian Princely States

Hi, I saw you uploaded , can you tell me where you found information on that flag? I'm trying to improve articles on Sikh history so I'm going to see if I can make an article on each of the flags of the Sikh princely states. Thanks--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

It's been so long I can't remember. I did the flag but had to do some research at FOTW and other sites.--RobNS 21:12, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

InterWikiProject Collaboration

The Outline WikiProject is currently working on the Outline of Sikhism.

You, and the rest of the Sikhism WikiProject are invited to join this collaboration.

The Outline of Sikhism is the latest addition to the religion section of Portal:Contents/Outlines.

We look forward to learning from your expertise on this subject.

The Transhumanist 05:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

"Is Kaliyug mein karam dharam na koye, Kallu ka janam chandal ke ghar hoye" Thanks for the feedback. Here is the translation , In this age of Evil , there is no karma or dharma , for this age is born in the home of lowliest evil doer(s). I take this opportunity to take a leaf out of the glorious Sikh religion that preaches , "Ninda bhali kisi ki nahin , manmukh mugadh (moorkh) karan,

Mooh kale tin nindka , narki ghor pavan"

Translation :Criticism of anyone whosoever is bad , only the mindless, irreligious or fools do it , whose face is blackened with soot and they are despatched to hell. My only issue is consistence with BLP guidelines.

With deep regards, Bandagharka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandagharka (talk • contribs) 06:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)