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Hi. It appears that I am getting banned from contributing to admin areas, see ]. See my recent talk page discussions and they say that I lack in understanding the policies and guidelines. I need help in knowing what I need to improve. Is any of you willing to help me? Thank you so much for your help. -] <sup>(]|])</sup> 07:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC) | Hi. It appears that I am getting banned from contributing to admin areas, see ]. See my recent talk page discussions and they say that I lack in understanding the policies and guidelines. I need help in knowing what I need to improve. Is any of you willing to help me? Thank you so much for your help. -] <sup>(]|])</sup> 07:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Hi Porchcrop. I've had a glance at your edits and the comments that have been made at ANI and the editor review. Lack of understanding is something that is fixable - but it's not something that you will be able to sort overnight. Whilst becoming an administrator is a possibility some time in the future, I think it is unlikely with your past record and it's something I think you should forget about. With that in mind, I do see a lot of enthusiasm, and would be willing to mentor you. If you'd be willing, I'd suggest you run through my ], focus on changing your to be more red. I believe you could be a great editor. ]] 09:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Discussion on sentence about Canadian head of state on Australian head of state dispute page
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2011 (UTC)I started a discussion on a sentence about the Canadian head of state on the Australian head of state dispute page. I believe it may be useful to try to broaden the potential pool of participants for this discussion to more editors who are familiar with Canadian politics. However, I am concerned that doing so may appear to be canvassing. Can anyone offer counsel if there is an appropriate Wikiproject that could be notified without the notification being considered to be canvassing? isaacl (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have addressed the question on that talk page. So what if you're canvassing; why is that so wrong? Eclecticology (talk) 19:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't wish to disrupt the normal consensus building approach by influencing the discussion in an inappropriate way. There is a lot of sensitivity around canvassing so I wanted to get some additional views on what may or may not be considered inappropriate canvassing. isaacl (talk) 01:44, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is not considered canvassing to post a neutrally worded message on WikiProject pages to alert them of disputes on articles within their scope or to enlist the help of experts (which I gather is what you'd like to do in this case). This is actually a standard part of dispute resolution. I understand your concern though. The most important part is to be neutral in your wording of the notice. But otherwise, go ahead. --Danger (talk) 14:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Though the issue has been laid to rest now, I was trying to gather some suggestions as to which WikiProject pages might be best to approach that would (a) have the article in scope; (b) have a greater familiarity with Canadian politics; and (c) avoid problems with inappropriate canvassing. WikiProject Canada and WikiProject Politics were two choices I thought of, but I was afraid the Canada project might have problems with (a) and (c), and the Politics project might have problems with (a) or (b). isaacl (talk) 15:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Right, sorry, you got my first few edits of the day and the coffee hadn't kicked in. I think WikiProject Canada would have been the best place to go. True, the article isn't in their scope, but wikiprojects are also the place to get experts, which is what you needed. And as I said, as long as the notice is neutrally worded and you're not spamming a whole bunch of projects, you don't have to worry about canvassing. --Danger (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advice; I appreciate it! isaacl (talk) 18:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Right, sorry, you got my first few edits of the day and the coffee hadn't kicked in. I think WikiProject Canada would have been the best place to go. True, the article isn't in their scope, but wikiprojects are also the place to get experts, which is what you needed. And as I said, as long as the notice is neutrally worded and you're not spamming a whole bunch of projects, you don't have to worry about canvassing. --Danger (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Though the issue has been laid to rest now, I was trying to gather some suggestions as to which WikiProject pages might be best to approach that would (a) have the article in scope; (b) have a greater familiarity with Canadian politics; and (c) avoid problems with inappropriate canvassing. WikiProject Canada and WikiProject Politics were two choices I thought of, but I was afraid the Canada project might have problems with (a) and (c), and the Politics project might have problems with (a) or (b). isaacl (talk) 15:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- It is not considered canvassing to post a neutrally worded message on WikiProject pages to alert them of disputes on articles within their scope or to enlist the help of experts (which I gather is what you'd like to do in this case). This is actually a standard part of dispute resolution. I understand your concern though. The most important part is to be neutral in your wording of the notice. But otherwise, go ahead. --Danger (talk) 14:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- I don't wish to disrupt the normal consensus building approach by influencing the discussion in an inappropriate way. There is a lot of sensitivity around canvassing so I wanted to get some additional views on what may or may not be considered inappropriate canvassing. isaacl (talk) 01:44, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Help Cleaning Up an Article Please?
InSegment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello-
I am looking to enlist the help of a knowledgeable editor that can help me out with a Wiki article I have recently created.
The article I created was first marked for speedy deletion; I delayed the request using the "hang on" function. After leaving comments on the article's talk page, it came back that the neutrality of the article was being challenged, and it may need to be cleaned-up.
I am not sure what the next step is. At this point, will the article be "cleaned up" by an editor? Or, am I responsible for cleaning up the article before it gets deleted?
I created this article with Wiki policy/guidelines in mind, and I tried to create the article to read as neutral as possible. I am open to changes that make the article more in accordance with Wiki guidelines and would love help from others, but I am not sure who is responsible for making these changes. It would be great if I could receive some feedback from a more experienced Wikipedian!
Please let me know what I need to do to ensure that the article gets cleaned-up rather than deleted entirely.
Thanks!
-Jordan
Jordan.Gilbert (talk) 20:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- A friendly editor may come along and help out now that you have asked here, but it is not guaranteed, so your are better off cleaning it up yourself. You should read WP:COI because a quick Google search indicates that you have a conflict. Also take a look at WP:BFAQ, WP:CORP, WP:SPAM and WP:RS. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Welcome to Misplaced Pages, where you are the editor! :) In all seriousness, I've had a look at the article you wrote, which has been deleted at this point. I can see that you've put a lot of effort into making it a decent Misplaced Pages article. However, I don't think the company meets our notability guidelines. "Notable" is Misplaced Pages shorthand for things that have been the subject of significant published attention in reliable sources (magazines, newspapers, books and that sort of thing, generally). It's really hard to write an article about a company that's both verifiable (everything in it has been published before) and neutral if there isn't much written about it. If you have sources like this, I'd suggest that you create a draft article in your userspace and ask for comments at requests for feedback before moving it to the main site. It's very probable that there aren't such sources; if they don't exist, it's a waste of everyone's time to try to make an article. Of course, depending on your interests, there's a lot of things to do here otherwise. We have a bunch articles on Internet marketing (check the sidebar on that page for more) that could use some attention if you'd like to edit in a field related to your work. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them here, on my talk page, or at the help desk. --Danger (talk) 21:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have edited this article and posted it as a user draft, taking Gimme Danger and OrangeMike's (the deleting editor's) comments into consideration. Would any seasoned Wiki editor mind taking a look? The article is located at Insegment.
- p.s. sorry if I wasn't supposed to change the marking from "answered" to "unresolved." I'm not 100% clear on the proper ways to communicate with the community here on Wiki.
- Comments added on draft talk page. Danger (talk) 02:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- p.s. sorry if I wasn't supposed to change the marking from "answered" to "unresolved." I'm not 100% clear on the proper ways to communicate with the community here on Wiki.
Dictionary articles
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:10, 8 March 2011 (UTC)I frequently remove wikilinks for common words pursuant to WP:OVERLINK, but the fact that these words have Misplaced Pages articles in the first place is troublesome. For example, bachelor. Why does this article exist here (see WP:DICTIONARY). Should I be nominating these kinds of articles for deletion, or am I missing something?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Because the concept isn't as straightforward as it might superficially seem. Read the article; it's much more than a mere dictionary definition. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Not, in my view, according to WP:DICTIONARY: "a dictionary article is primarily about a word, an idiom or a term and its meanings, usage and history." The bachelor article has a lead section that discusses its definition and one other section called "Etymology and historical meanings." Sounds exactly like a long-winded dictionary entry and fits fairly neatly within the policy description.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:54, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, you could always propose for deletion at WP:AFD. Jezhotwells (talk) 07:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm thinking about it, but I'd hoped for more discussion on the global issue first. For example, see want, purpose, either, and that. Is there a better forum to discuss this issue?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- You could probably get feedback on talk for WP:DICTIONARY or WP:NOT. Danger (talk) 10:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll try WP:DICTIONARY.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- You could probably get feedback on talk for WP:DICTIONARY or WP:NOT. Danger (talk) 10:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm thinking about it, but I'd hoped for more discussion on the global issue first. For example, see want, purpose, either, and that. Is there a better forum to discuss this issue?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, you could always propose for deletion at WP:AFD. Jezhotwells (talk) 07:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- Not, in my view, according to WP:DICTIONARY: "a dictionary article is primarily about a word, an idiom or a term and its meanings, usage and history." The bachelor article has a lead section that discusses its definition and one other section called "Etymology and historical meanings." Sounds exactly like a long-winded dictionary entry and fits fairly neatly within the policy description.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:54, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Sunset High School, Dallas, Texas - Notable Alumni
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:11, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Sunset High School (Texas) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I write in consideration of being added to the Notable Alumni Page for Sunset High School in Dallas, Texas. I realize that this is a "self-serving" request; however, I hope you will concur.
Bill Melton (William A. Melton, Sr.) Sunset Class of 1958 (12-15-1939)
Served as Dallas County Treasurer for over 25 years. Recognized in 1995, as "County Leader of the Year" by American City & County Magazine; "Most Valuable Public Official in County Government in the United States", 1991, by City & State Magazine; "Outstanding County Treasurer in the United States", 1982, National Association of County Treasurers and Finance Officers; "Texas' Outstanding County Treasurer", 1981, County Treasurer's Associaition of Texas; Stadium Announcer, 1996 Olympic Games Men's and Women's Soccer; Pre Game and Halftime Announcer, Super Bowl VI, Super Bowl VIII and Super Bowl IX; Announcer, 2001 Presidential Inaugural Opening Ceremonies at Lincoln Memorial; Announcer, 2005 Presidential Inaugural Parade, "Salute to Those Who Serve" and Elipse Ceremonies; PA Announcer - Dallas Cowboys football, Texas Rangers baseball, Texas Relays (Track and Field - 38 years), World Championship Tennis, NCAA basketball and track and field Championships; Texas Lions Hall of Fame; Texas Track & Field Coaches Association Inaugural Hall of Fame; "Five Outstanding Young Texans"; "Outstanding Young Man of Dallas".
Please contact me if you have questions. I can supply References or email addresses to collaborating sites. I can also submit a complete Resume if requested.
Thank you for your kind consideration.
Bill Melton (atlanta96) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlanta96 (talk • contribs) 01:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- It appears that you do not meet the notability guidelines for Misplaced Pages, but perhaps leave a note on the article talk page for editors to consider. Jezhotwells (talk) 06:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that you probably do not meet our notability guidelines for a separate article, but it's possible that you qualify to be posted in the alumni section with a reference to the article about your County Leader of the Year award in the original magazine. It would look like this:
- Bill Melton (Class of 1958) – Dallas County treasurer (Start year–End year), named County Leader of the Year (1995) by American City & County magazine
- Please don't add this to the article yourself, but rather suggest it on the article talk page. Danger (talk) 10:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that you probably do not meet our notability guidelines for a separate article, but it's possible that you qualify to be posted in the alumni section with a reference to the article about your County Leader of the Year award in the original magazine. It would look like this:
Can someone upload a school logo on a protected page?
Answered – Seems like none of us want to do this; doesn't seem like the logo is an official one anyway. Danger (talk)Hi, I wanted to add a school logo for my high school but the "edit" button was not on the article page for some reason. If an editor can do it, it would be great.
School: Walnut High School in California http://en.wikipedia.org/Walnut_High_School
Logo from the school's student body site: http://www.whsasb.com/whsasb/beauty/images/logoooooofelschoool.jpg
It's for identifiable purposes only.
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.2.207 (talk) 11:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you get an account and make the required number of edits, you can upload the image yourself, but please familiarise yourself with our image use policies. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
- Since the page isn't protected, there's no reason that you shouldn't be able to edit. Maybe try again? To expand on what Jezhotwells has said, in this case, since the logo is copyrighted by Walnut High School, you will have to put a fair-use rationale on the image page when you upload it. You can read more about those here. --Danger (talk) 23:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: IPs can't upload images, only registered editors with a minimum number of edits. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Ray Traylor
Resolved – Danger (talk) 02:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Ray Traylor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Hey... I Was Just Wanting To Let You Guys Know That I Changed The Name Of "The Big Boss Man" Ray Traylor's Finishing Move From "Big Child Raping Slam" To "Bossman Slam"...I Just Wanted To Know If This Is The Correct Name For His Finisher...
--smwwe09 06:21, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Help!!
- The linked sources seem to be divided on this, but the at least the source cited for the finishing move matches up with the name you changed it to. I'm not sure how WikiProject Professional wrestling deals with these sorts of discrepancies although the manual of style provides some suggestions on formatting. --Danger (talk) 11:20, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- There was some egregious vandalism there; I reverted back to a fairly clean version, I think. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Video links and how they should be handled
Resolved – Nicely done. Danger (talk) 02:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)As is being discussed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Hek_Ki_Boen_Eng_Chun_Kungfu#Video_sections
on this article: Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun Kungfu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The video links on the page seem to be largely testimonials/sales info for the product. I was wondering, is that ok? If videos are to be included, shouldn't criticism videos be included as well so both sides of the product are seen? What's the policy on that sort of thing?
Wcwatchdog (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Testimonials and sales info are clearly promotional and should be removed. All but four of those links should be removed and I have made an edit request to that effect. – ukexpat (talk) 14:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Post was rejected, would like review
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Hello, Some time ago I was tasked by a band to get them on Misplaced Pages. I went to great lengths to figure out how to properly format for Misplaced Pages and successfully posted a page on them. It was subsequently deleted, citing a lack of relevance (I forget the exact verbiage used). I would like to have this reviewed, because they are a successful tribute band (one of the most successful in the US), and there are plenty of other tribute band pages on Misplaced Pages. In fact, I followed the format of a similar tribute band page to formulate the one for my band.
The original sand box version can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sandbox&oldid=391696508
Please let me know how I can gain assistance in getting their page posted. Thank you.
JS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffschad (talk • contribs) 18:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Please see the notability requirements at WP:BAND which the band was deemed not to satisfy if the article was deleted. Also, there is concern here about people being hired or "tasked" to develop articles for others, see the conflict of interest standards. Jonathanwallace (talk) 18:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
So I can't get an answer other than a link to other informational pages -- looping if you will. This is why I state that other, less successful bands have pages on WP, therefore I am unable to grasp how my band was deemed unsuitable. In regard to your COI piece, I would like to know how the vast majority of articles on WP get created if they aren't created by those with an interest in the subject matter in some way, shape or form. I am not in the band, I am not paid to put the WP post up, and I have nothing to gain (other than satisfaction) by posting their page. This is something I told them I would spearhead, nothing more, nothing less. Please reply. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffschad (talk • contribs) 18:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)OK, the version that you created in the Misplaced Pages:Sandbox on 19 October 2010 was deleted or over written as the sandbox is there for anyone to experiment with Wiki markup. I have copied your draft into your own personal sandbox at User:Jeffschad/Who's Bad, where you can work on it. You need to establish the notability of the band from verifiable reliable sources. When you have got it into shape you can ask for a review at WP:FEEDBACK. The notice on your page shows why the article that you put into mainspace was deleted "because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia.". Read up on the policies that I have put here and also that are linked on your talk page. You will need to find third party references. The band's web site is not enough to establish notability. Hope that this helps. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:59, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Ok, great, thanks. It was actually published as an article outside of the sandbox before being deleted as well.I don't mean to come off as rude, but as I said, I used the precise format of other tribute band entries on WP. Therefore it seems like the standards aren't consistently enforced; either that or double-standards are in order. I will back up the info provided with citations from BBC, NY Times and other major media outlets that have extensively covered and chronicled the band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffschad (talk • contribs) 19:12, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Just because your article was deleted and a different similar article wasn't, doesn't mean that standards are enforced differently or that there are double standards. With 3,572,367 currently in Misplaced Pages, new articles sometimes get missed and hang around for a long time before someone sees them and deals with them. I read through the sandbox version and there was nothing in the article that showed how it meets WIkipedia's notability guideline. If you can improve the article and show that it meets the guideline that would be great. ~~ GB fan ~~ 20:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- If there are articles here that don't meet our standards, let us know; "Hey, look at the other crap that's here already!" is often a warning about things that have slipped through the cracks, rather than an argument for the retention of an inappropriate article. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Decide what to do with Edge of Universe page
Resolved – Danger (talk) 02:16, 8 March 2011 (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/Edge_of_the_Universe currently points to a page about a band. It is far more likely that people a searching for the actual edge of the universe. I feel like this should either become a redirect page, be pointed at http://en.wikipedia.org/Shape_of_the_Universe, or actually be a page about the actual edge of the universe. Not sure what should be done but something should be and I need admin help to do so. Thanks Lonjers (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Edit boldly. I have moved the page to "Edge of the Universe (album)" to make room for the correct redirect. I am working to fix old links. Cliff (talk) 01:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Lonjers (talk) 01:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I've been corrected, and have moved the beegees page to Edge of the Universe (song). Happy universe-ingCliff (talk) 01:56, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Lonjers (talk) 01:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Laurelhurst Theater
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Laurelhurst Theater (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I have been discussing the article Laurelhurst Theater on it's Talk page. I have also discussed my concerns about the article on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Oregon. Each time I add a tag to the page to indicate that the article has a problem with POV, the addition of the tag is reverted by other users who do not correct the POV issues. How should I proceed? I do not wish to be involved in any sort of revert war.134.29.231.11 (talk) 01:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not seeing a POV issue here. This article is written about as neutrally as I've ever seen an article on an operating business. Remember, including positive opinions and attributing them to reliable sources is not a violation of POV unless negative opinion of similar weight is also excluded. It would have been helpful if you could pointed to any specific problematic phrases or sentences. --Danger (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. It seemed like a review to me rather than an encyclopedia entry, but I haven't seen many articles about small businesses like this one. I appreciate your time and knowledge. 134.29.231.11 (talk) 02:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I know there's an article about a music store in Michigan that's either one of our featured articles or a good article, but I can't find it. I think the best model we have at the moment would be Idlewild and Soak Zone, which is an operating theme park. The tone is descriptive and awards are reported, but not dwelled on, which is what I saw in this article. I think in this case, expansion will help with any balance issues, because most of the sources right now are where the theater has won some sort of award. When more history and architectural details are added, that part will be less prominent. (And wow, I'm sorry for my grammar in that last sentence.) --Danger (talk) 03:06, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. It seemed like a review to me rather than an encyclopedia entry, but I haven't seen many articles about small businesses like this one. I appreciate your time and knowledge. 134.29.231.11 (talk) 02:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Here's a link to the specific discussion at WP:ORE. Valfontis (talk) 03:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Distortions between Right-Wing Terrorism and Left-Wing Terrorism articles
Right-wing terrorism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Left-wing terrorism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Despite numerous attempts to bring these two articles in line, this has failed. The persistent efforts of those who will delete even the most well referenced and undisuptable of facts from the "Right-Wing Terrorism" page without any real reason then go on to do the exact opposite on the left-wing terrorism page, filling it with leading words and accusations of mass conspiracy. This is in contrast to the statements on the right-wing, which makes them seem like an incoherent bumbling lot seperate from any actual ideology.
Using phrasing that compared rightwing terrorists to misinterpreting books, while comparing leftiwng activists to people who commited active acts of violence is wholly inappropriate. To even sort of claim these pages are balanced is absurd. Which one is unbalanced is not really important; either the right-wing terrorism page must represent the same tone as the left-wing page, and must abide by the same criteria for inclusion of topics, or the left-wing terrorism page must be waterd down to the level the right-wing is.
In my case, I pointed out attacks on Abortion clinics, which is now absent from the article entierly. To deny that there were right wing terrorist attacks against abortion clinics and providers is simply not a real position. It just isnt. And In my post, I cited references to both conservative and liberal sources (good ones I think) decrying and detailing these actions. And yet it was erased all the same, as if I had done none of it. It wasnt re-written, it wasnt given any sort of real criticism, it was just deleted. And its the same folks continually undoing changes that make the right look bad, while plugging changes that make the left look bad into the leftwing terrorism article.
I cannot stay here with the same fervor these people do and continually play the Revert game. I would appreciate this be looked into, as at this time, its basically undeniable through a simple search of the edit histories to see the clear, unmistakable bias that has been injected into both pages, to make the left-wing look bad and the right-wing look good.
While either one of these pages on its own might seem "neutral" the fact of the matter is, neither of them are, because the same editors are drastically distorting the two pages as far as tone, quality and quantity of information, and overall scope of what is considerd terrorism. For instance, for a good while the left-wing terrorism page had talk about merging it with *two other* left-wing terrorism pages. This while the right-wing terrorism page has barely four paragraphs.
I do not like this sort of bias going on, nor its being ignored by the community at large. Neither page is neutral because they are aspects of one another, and those aspects have been clearly and repeatedly distorted in favor of a single ideology. Please act on this quickly. Of all the sorts of misinformation that may be plugged into Misplaced Pages, distorting the situation of terrorism, considering its pressing nature, is among the worst sort of partisan bickering and deception.
I request that the editors use haste in examining and bringing these pages into line. all attempts by users to reconcile this have failed. Chardansearavitriol (talk) 03:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Just a few comments, as I don't have time right now to do a thorough review of everything. Chardansearavitriol, I'd like you to consider how your behavior may be impeding progress here. I think it's fairly obvious that Right-wing terrorism could do with a significant expansion to make it as comprehensive as the coverage of Left-wing terrorism. However, accusing other editors of whitewashing and playing games is never helpful. Please play nice, even if you disagree with the actions and opinions of other editors. We, meaning humans, are much more likely to act in response to calm criticism than accusations of wrong-doing.
- Another issue is that Misplaced Pages editing on contentious pages is a rather conservative process, not in the political sense, but in the sense of making change cautiously. It might be helpful for you to make smaller suggestions about specific additions of text or changes in existing text and then allow the discussion to go on for a while. Since it seems like TFD and you are alone there, you might suggest to him making a short message where you both can agree on the wording to relevant WikiProjects to bring in more eyes. (The editors here can attempt to help you, but you will find more expert and interested editors on WikiProjects.) Does this sound reasonable? --Danger (talk) 03:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Query
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)How does one go about getting information added about a technology and a company. Here is a reference: http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/esearch/e3i14785206d4d123ec7bc13407136aea22?pn=3
Gerard F Corbett 07:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gfcorbett (talk • contribs)
- I have placed some links on yoru talk page about editing here and policies, there is a lot to learn and there is no great hurry, so please read up, have a look around. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Request for assistance and guidance
Omer Tarin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Dear Sirs I have been working gradually on this ongoing article/page for some time, concerning an important Pakistani poet in my view. The article has a number of problems which I am working on to improve but I feel it would be unfortunate to delete it. In this regard, further verifiable sources are asked for and although I am giving sources and updating them as I go along, the following queries arise: (a) some of the sources cited are very well known mainstream Pakistani publications such as newspapers, periodicals etc and how should I reflect these in the references/notes? and (b) a number of these articles and reviews were published before the 'net resources were available here, and are consequently not available online, although they are published and archived in print form and are physically verifiable. But how should I reflect/cite these, please? And any suggestions to clean up the article also, please? Thank you for your help Sincerely Khani100 (talk) 09:22, 2 March 2011 (UTC) Khani100
- References do not need to be available online. Misplaced Pages:Citations#Newspaper articles gives information about citing newspapers and the rest of the page covers other forms of publication. Misplaced Pages:Citation templates are a good way of adding references. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I would also encourage you to help create or improve our coverage of well-known Pakistani publications such as newspapers, periodicals etc.; we do our best, but always need more editors in these areas (not just in Urdu, either, but also in Baluchi, Sindhi, etc.). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Assistance on Speedy Deletion
Answered – Danger (talk) 02:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Totsy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
To Whom It May Concern:
I have been attempting to create a Misplaced Pages page with no avail. I have written a page called "Totsy" stating concise facts that neither promotes or advertises the former as stated in the Misplaced Pages rules. In fact, after I received my first warning for "speedy deletion", I was willing to work with any verified Misplaced Pages editor to change anything that may be in violation of said Misplaced Pages rules. It is hard to edit on my own as I am not certain of the rules I have violated and would love clarification on what exactly needs to be changed in order to make the page, "Totsy", honest and live.
I would love some assistance and would be willing to be educated on Misplaced Pages guidelines further. Thank you very much for your consideration.
Yhoshino (talk) 16:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. The page has been deleted four times already. You have not 'violated' any guidelines as such, but I think you'll have to accept that further attempts to assert the subject's notability will be unsuccessful, even if you were to rewrite it. You could ask the deleting admin if he would restore it to your user space (details on your talk page), but their decision wold be final. --Kudpung (talk) 17:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Incorrect linking in Zeta (disambiguation) page.
Resolved – Danger (talk) 02:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)I am not a registered wikipedia user, if some registered editor can correct this: in the Zeta (disambiguation) page, the link about the ZETA fusion reactor takes you to the page about the letter Z, not to the page ZETA (fusion reactor) as it should. Thank you, 190.134.61.235 (talk) 17:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for reporting this error. I have fixed it. (I have removed your email address to protect your privacy) -- John of Reading (talk) 17:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Also note that as that page is not protected, you are encouraged to make such changes yourself. – ukexpat (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Jogesh Chandra Chaudhuri Law College
Jogesh Chandra Chaudhuri Law College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The article regarding Jogesh Chandra Chaudhuri Law College is a very authentic one. It is about a very well known and famous college of Kolkata, West Bengal, India affiliated under University of Calcutta. The College is registered under the Bar Council of India and University Grants Commission (India) as well. Like other eminent college Jogesh Chandra Chaudhuri Law Colllege also has a very enriched history and set of very popular, well known and established alumni. So it is an request to keep the article intact and free from the threat of deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arka1360 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- No one is doubting that it exists, the problem is the tone of the article. It is written like a promotional piece in somewhat flowery language, rather than like an encyclopedia article. Please take a look at WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 18:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oh dear, it's also a copyright violation of http://www.jcclawcollege.in/ so tagged for that in addition. – ukexpat (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- The subject is notable, but the article was a blatant copyright violation; and would never have been retained anyway, since it was shamelessly promotional. I have brutally trimmed it back to a mere stub, awating replenishment in accordance with our principles of neutral point of view, verifiability, and so forth. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:56, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Problem with deleting content. Not sure how to resolve this issue
Hello.
This is Ron Grisanti. I am medical director for Functional Medicine University. I recently provided documented information to be placed on the key word, "Functional Medicine" I was focused on providing information which would best meet the needs of the public searching for information on functional medicine. I was surprised to discover that my information was completely deleted and replaced with information by a company called Institute of Functional Medicine. I am sad to see this happen.
I thought the purpose of wikipedia was to provide "neutral" information for the sole purpose of education and not used as a self promotion of one company.
What do I need to do so any information I add to wikipedia is not deleted and replaced with the self promotion?
I am at a loss.
Thanks.
Dr. Ron Grisanti www.FunctionalMedicineUniversity.com <contact details redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgrisanti (talk • contribs) 21:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- The first thing to do is to address the issue on the article's talk page (that hasn't had a comment since Nov 2009), and leave an invitation on the other editor's talk page at Talk:Functional medicine for them to join the discussion. Other contributing editors, or indeed anyone else, can discuss whether the entry is spam or a notable institution whose mention is a net benefit to the article. It might take a while, and If all else fails, then come back here. Do avoid, however getting involved in an edit war. Kudpung (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I have chopped out the whole of the "Organizations and Educational Programs" section as it was completely unreferenced as to notability and possibly spammy. – ukexpat (talk) 21:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Mattress
Answered – Astray? Danger (talk) 02:22, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Wanted to give you an update on mattress sizes. one of the most commonly used king mattresses in the Hotel industry is the Contract King 72" x 80". There is also a NBA Double 54" x 96" or NBA King 72" x 96" available from Sealy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.120.191.6 (talk) 14:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source to support that? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Possible edit war -- advice requested
The Oratory School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
There is what appears to be an ongoing edit war on The Oratory School, and I have documented the activity on the article's talk page. The main problem that I see is that the user defending the deleted section of the article doesn't seem to be interested in discussing the problem or adding the necessary references and/or citations required to make it encyclopaedic.
Have I followed the correct steps in this case? Am I right to plan to delete the offending section in another month's time? What should I do if (more likely when) Pfgpowell reinstates it after refusing to fix it up?
Advice appreciated. — PeterBrett (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- That section is pretty much unencyclopedic as it stands, it overpowers the rest of the article, and it's self-referential: why would anyone else outside of the school really care about the slang that's developed inside the school unless it's been studied in an academic manner? I'd remove it entirely, myself, but giving the other editor some time to comment is fair as well. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- As I explained, it's already been removed three times and reinstated three times, but it's a slow burning edit war between occasional contributors, and the editor in favour of the section doesn't seem interested in discussing it. If I unilaterally removed it now (it's very tempting to do so) what should I do if & when he returns and reverts my removal? — PeterBrett (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- I deleted it as original research. Jonathanwallace (talk) 18:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I guess we'll see what happens. Thanks for your input. — PeterBrett (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Table problems
I need someone to look at List of Indian engineering college rankings. This is my first time with a sortable table, and there seems to be something wrong, as the table isn't proper. Can anyone tell me what is wrong? Yes Michael? • 17:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- I've fixed it, I think, by making line 2 match lines 1 and 3 more closely. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! Yes Michael? • 18:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
City Seal of Cabadbaran City, Agusan del Norte, Philippines
Cabadbaran, Agusan del Norte (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
good day to all! i am a concerned citizen of Cabadbaran City, Agusan del Norte, Philippines. I would like to appeal to you to consider my request to review a page in Misplaced Pages "http://en.wikipedia.org/Cabadbaran,_Agusan_del_Norte".
it is my desire to correct the City Seal which was inadvertently uploaded by someone. The present seal that appears in Misplaced Pages is one of the entries which won during the logo contest held by the city, but that doesn't mean to be used as the Official Logo(Seal). The adapted seal was the one appearing in the site cabadbarantoday.com which is the official website of Cabadbaran City. Please check this site http://cabadbarantoday.com/cbr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=6 for the seal. i hope that this appeal will be granted. Thank you, The webmaster cabadbarantoday.com
- The place to post this would be the discussion page: Talk:Cabadbaran, Agusan del Norte. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Jeff Rense - unverifiable information
Talk:Jeff Rense (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
I have raised some concerns in this article's discussion area. I cannot edit the article myself as it is locked. No one has responded to my suggestions.
My concern is that much of this article's biographical information has no references. Possibly it was written by the subject himself or his representative; but even if it was, what assurances are there that these items are factually correct?
In addition, there is a statement that does not adhere to Wiki's NPOV, regarding Mr Rense's knowledge of Mario Lanza.
My suggestion is for the statements which are not verifiable to be deleted, and for the statement which does not have a NPOV to be modified.
Please review my suggestions and let me know if they are valid concerns.
Thank you.
LucyJones88 (talk) 11:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- I think you are raising some valid points. I made one edit taking out some WP:PEACOCK phrasing about Mario Lanza. The article is semi-protected, meaning you will be able to edit it yourself when you have ten edits to other articles, noticeboards or talk pages.Jonathanwallace (talk) 12:29, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- If you can't think of any useful edits to make just now, you could try the Lists of common misspellings. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- That list is poison! A gateway to terminal Wikipedianism! Danger (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- If you can't think of any useful edits to make just now, you could try the Lists of common misspellings. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- One thing to remember is that uncontroversial biographical information (birthdays, employment, etc.) do not have to be referenced by sources independent of the subject. If you find a autobiography, non-promotional information can be sourced to that. I mean, that kind of thing could be fabricated, but why? I looked at Rense's site, but everything on it was flashing at me and I feel significantly crazier now, so I left off looking for a bio. Non-independent or biased sources can also be used to support the opinions or claims of those sources, ie "Rense writes that he ..." Is this helpful? Danger (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
My edit was not admitted
Ibiza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello, I've tried to add information about Teatro Pereyra in Ibiza in your article about Ibiza. I believe Teatro Pereyra should be mentioned their since Café del Mar and Ibiza Rocks are and these are strict commercial tourist businesses that only open in the summer season whereas Teatro Pereyra is open all year and has an important social funcion on the Island. I believe you ask for published proof ( as if something printed reflects the truth...) so I googled an article of the daily mail : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1216088/Ibiza-holidays-nightclubs-finding-peace-Balearic-island-paradise.html Please add my comments or tell me how to go about. Thank you so much, Eric-Jan Harmsen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibizapiano (talk • contribs) 12:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Another google search shows that you are closely linked with Teatro Pereyra. Please read the Misplaced Pages guidelines on advertising and conflict of interest; you should not be editing the article directly. You could try adding your suggested text and the source to Talk:Ibiza for other editors to review, taking care to note your involvement with the businesses. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Request for assistance - Michael Gruneberg page creation
I'm a first time editor and am attempting to create a page on Michael Gruneberg. I've twice had the page deleted so I have rewritten it at: User:Bobg508/Michael Gruneberg. Would someone be so kind and tell me what I can do so that I can pass all of the criteria and the page will not be deleted again? Bobg508 (talk) 15:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Please take a look at WP:SYMUD and make a request for feedback at WP:FEED. – ukexpat (talk) 16:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict):Hi. All blue words are clickable links to more information. The article was deleted three times. Your new draft as it stands is not a biography, it is a list of an author's publications with little or no information on the person that wrote them. Please try to expand the article to include biographical information. It may help if you look at some of our biographies such as for example Rose Garrard, taking special note of the method for providing sourced references that must be verifiable and formatted according to the instructions for citations. If you need further help, please follow the instructions on the welcome message on your talk page, taking special note of the administrator's warning not to copy information from other sources. Happy editing! --Kudpung (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
JOHN M.FLORESCU
Hello,
My name is Dana Gliga, registered on your website as Dana83art and I want to register a new page on wikipedia and I cannot understand why it can't be registered a whole text on your website. The page that I want to upload is JOHN M.FLORESCU and I want you to help me to tell me which are the procedures in order that the whole text to be published.
Thank you, Wait for your answer, Dana Gliga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dana83art (talk • contribs) 15:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Dana. Welcome to Misplaced Pages! Please see the new message on your talk page at User talk:Dana83art, and follow the instructions carefully. Remember that all the blue words are clickable links that will take you somewhere - such as to help pages for creating and posting new articles. Happy editing! --Kudpung (talk) 16:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Just to be a little more specific having looked at the draft on your user page: it would appear that the subject meets the notability requirements for people set out at WP:BIO, but at the moment the tone of the draft is far too promotional and reads like an advertisement for him and his achievements. Please take a look at some of the thousands of biographical articles on Misplaced Pages and I hope you will see what I mean. So, you need to deal with the tone issue and you must cite references to reliable, third party, sources that demonstrate that he is indeed notable. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- I moved the draft from Dana's userpage to a sandbox at User:Dana83art/John Florescu. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Just to be a little more specific having looked at the draft on your user page: it would appear that the subject meets the notability requirements for people set out at WP:BIO, but at the moment the tone of the draft is far too promotional and reads like an advertisement for him and his achievements. Please take a look at some of the thousands of biographical articles on Misplaced Pages and I hope you will see what I mean. So, you need to deal with the tone issue and you must cite references to reliable, third party, sources that demonstrate that he is indeed notable. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Can someone add a link for me to a semi protected page?
Drew Pinsky (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I just created a website for the publicist of Dr. Drew Pinsky found Here and Would like a few things edited on his wiki page. Firstly, can you add in his publicists site under the "external links" section. Second Delete the "official message board link" (doesnt exist, and was never official). Thanks, I can provide proof or whatever that I'm associated with him.
-CarlosDaVampire — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlosDaVampire (talk • contribs) 21:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Thanks for posting here. That website wouldn't appear to be something we'd put onto that page per WP:ELNO. If the publicist were herself notable, then it might go on that page. --AndrewHowse (talk) 02:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Removing Pictures of Mohammad PBUH from the article
Answered – Nothing more to be said. Danger (talk) 02:23, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Mohammad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The above mentioned link shows multiple pictures of Muhammad PBUH. Please remove them ASAP
Regards Jawad
08:19, 5 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawadiceman (talk • contribs)
- Please read points 1 and 3 at Talk:Muhammad/FAQ -- John of Reading (talk) 09:25, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Spy Game lead material
Spy Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An editor added the following paragraph to the lead of this article:
Spy Game is a true to life composite of many real intelligence operations. Spy Game is more real than fiction and is based on the life of intelligence operative Tom Golden, the son of an Arkansas dirt farmer. Golden was an army intelligence officer assigned to the Central Intelligence Agency Phoenix Program during the Vietnam War. Nathan Muir was Golden’s CIA code name in Southeast Asia, and during his intelligence operations in Indochina. Golden served a distinguished career in the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), The Pentagon, and the CIA. He served in Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and Central and South America. Tony Scott does a great job of presenting the true to life dangers faced by Intelligence Agents in the field and the bureaucratic decisions sometimes made in Washington that are driven by politics.
These are the two citations that follow the material: "" and "". The film came out in 2001.
I reverted the editor. Another editor added it back in. I reverted the second editor twice more. After my third reversion, yet another editor (this time an IP) reverted me. On my third reversion, I posted information about all this on the article's Talk page. No one has responded, and the material remains.
The first editor has been registered since March 2010 but has made only a handful of edits, most of them to Spy Game. The second editor has been registered only since February 28, 2011, and has edited only this article. The IP made only the one edit, the reversion. I'm suspicious of the editors themselves, but, more important (to me) is the quality of the lead, which is still compromised.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- As the sources are published before the file was released there's simply no way to connect it to the film in such a way, it's original research if anything. I have reverted the text and explained why (my only revert) and will try to contribute to the talk page. If none of the other editors contribute to it the only option is really page protection. And if the accounts are linked the only way to verify would be via an SPI. Rehevkor ✉ 16:35, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Matthew, hopefully the reversion will stick.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:42, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- It didn't stick. Yet another IP reverted. Because it's been long enough since I last reverted, I reverted the IP. I'm not real knowledgeable about sockpuppets and how they're investigated, but I decided to create an SPI and let others who are more experienced look into the issue.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- "Undid revision x by Rehevkor", oh, how much I hate those little words. An SPI is probably the best avenue at this point. It's unlikely the accounts/IPs are unrelated. Rehevkor ✉ 21:40, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- The SPI confirmed that Jackmartin40 is a sockpuppet of Leorojasxx. Jackmartin40 has been blocked indefinitely, and Leorojasxx has been blocked for a week. As for the IPs, the investigator said: "No comment on the IPs. Ready to close/archive." Not quite sure exactly what that means with respect to the IPs - was an investigation done?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Checkuser won't link an IP address to an account. (As a matter of policy, not as a technical inadequacy). If the problem with the IP addresses persists, you might want to request semi-protection for the article at WP:RFPP. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. What then is the purpose of identifying the IP addresses in the SPI?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Summer camp possible advert
Camp Moshava, Wild Rose, WI (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) The article Camp Moshava, Wild Rose, WI is an article about a summer camp. It seems notable and is sourcing everything but somehow has become a WP:ADVERT and WP:NOTWEBHOST. The main editor states on his talk page that is a past employee. Any help in assessing how to proceed would be appreciated. If you look at it and it seems fine, I'd be appreciative to know. Thanks, Joe407 (talk) 21:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Help with Constant Motion (redirect) and Constant Motion (song) (article)
Hello, I am here to request some help with more experienced editors who could help me here. I'm currently expanding the article Systematic Chaos, a studio album from Dream Theater, and relative articles. The problem, it's one of the songs, which is Constant Motion, but this is a redirect to the precedent album, and there is an article which is Constant Motion (song), which really doesn't need a disambiguation. I'm just trying to keep the article but with the title without disambiguation.
Thanks for your time. --Sirius 128 (talk) 00:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- That's a bit of a mess. Constant Motion (song) is currently under discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/In the Presence of Enemies where it's suggested that it doesn't meet the notability criteria at WP:NSONG. I think it might be best to wait for the outcome of that before deciding how to arrange any other pages. You seem to have moved Constant Motion to Constant Motion (song) 1, which isn't a page name that would typically exist here. I think it might be best to undo that move; if the song article at AfD survives then it should be at the undisambiguated title as you suggest, and otherwise the old redirect can be reinstated. --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- I've requested that the page move be undone; this'll preserve the old history. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Review New Article / Format Help
Hello, I am not good at computers, and I am having difficulty formatting the article that I have created. Please assist. the name of the article is: Matt Urmy. thank you,
BK Monroe The Red Light Library — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRedLightLibrary (talk • contribs) 05:18, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well, notes have been left on you talk page, both about the article which has been deleted and also about COI, please note that accounts should not be shared amongst people. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Martin Hirsch
Martin Hirsch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
In the course of the unreferenced BLP, I took a lot of French persons articles in my watchlist. I spotted a problem wht I beleive is a problem with neutrality on this article, and I'm now accused of "exporting a wp:fr edit war". --Anneyh (talk) 09:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- For such a tiny stub, this article is indeed a mess. Your contribution about what he said on TV is jarring, without any context, and overtakes the entire article. Also, my assumption is that your citation to the video website is improper because it's a potential copyright violation. The editor who is reverting your changes is correct, in my view, although there should be a discussion of the issue on the Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:19, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- I've reverted your information and started a discussion on the article Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:43, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, just a detail, I have not inserted the statement, but reverted it a few times. Thanks for answering my request for help. --Anneyh (talk) 10:47, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Repeated attempts to move Spark(fire), always restarting after failing to get a consensus to move
Over on Talk:Spark_(fire), there have been five failed attempts to get a consensus to rename the page, within four months. Every time an attempt fails, yet another attempt starts. All but one of these have been started by the same editor. The sixth attempt has just started. This all seems a bit silly. Can it be curtailed somehow? Ernestfax 19:04, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Two closed debates ending in no consensus for the move - the last one yesterday. The only way to curtail this is for the concerned editors to simply move on to more constructive work and stop fanning the fire. --Kudpung (talk) 14:13, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Groan! Pun warning next time please! – ukexpat (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Kudpung can't help it. He's just got that fire in his belly for improving the 'pedia. Danger (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Groan! Pun warning next time please! – ukexpat (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. And thanks for your sparky comments and for not flaming me Ernestfax 08:05, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- This is a total mischaracterization of the situation. There was one long discussion, split into multiple categories, ending with a move proposal that failed, with many of the oppose votes proposing alternate options. A second proposal was just made which basically no one agreed with, and now discussion is continuing. Some editors seem to insist that, since the first proposal did not pass (with the closer encouraging a continued discussion) that all discussion should end and all the concerns raised by both support and oppose !voters should be ignored. Rather than try to stifle discussion, I'd encourage anyone knowledgable about science to come participate.--Yaksar (let's chat) 08:59, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see what is inconsistent with WP:CON here. The discussion has been civil and informative and has resulted in at least partial consensus and progress in the disambiguation of spark. The closing admin of the first move request said "This topic appears to be the primary topic, and if consensus is established, it may be moved to Spark." Per the admin's suggestion, I proposed the move to spark. There was a strong consensus against the move and, more importantly, a strong consensus that there is no primary topic. SInce there was consensus on no primary topic, I was able to add content to electric spark that might otherwise have gone into a primary topic article. This allowed yet another editor to clean up the spark DAB page. There are content and naming issues that remain at spark (fire), but significant consensus has been achieved on several issues and there has been improvement in the content of the spark articles. Rather than being told to move on I think that Yaksar should be thanked for helping to build the consensus that we have achieved so far and encouraged to continue to participate in useful consensus building discussions. --Kkmurray (talk) 14:17, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- That being said, I'm sure Ernestfax has a good reason for wanting to stop all discussion other than there being too much of it, which I'm very curious to hear.--Yaksar (let's chat) 17:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Congregation Beth Shalom Rodfe Zedek
The link to the Steven Lloyd on the Congregation Beth Shalom Rodfe Zedek page is the wrong Stephen Lloyd. The correct Stephen Lloyd is an architect practicing in Brattleboro, VT and Chester, CT. He presently does not have a website so the link should be removed. Thank you. Signed, Stephen Lloyd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.92.121 (talk) 20:41, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing this out. I have edited the article for you. Feel free to be bold and correct errors yourself in future. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Second opinion on personal entires in Silverpoint article
Silverpoint (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This article seems to have been hijacked by two living artists (Susan Schwalb--AKA Bluehoon, and Tom Mazzullo--AKA Marscapony) who have each entered quite a bit of self-promotional information and personal links into the page. I am not comfortable with the editing rules, and there seems to be a bit of rivalry on the discussion page. It is quite different than the articles on watercolor, or oil painting for example. 128.190.125.2 (talk) 19:58, 7 March 2011 (UTC)amy
- I removed a lot of WP:COATRACK and WP:PEACOCK material.Jonathanwallace (talk) 01:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Citation issues
I've never posted here before so this might not be the right place to do this, but I seem to be having trouble formatting references in Mechanics' Union of Trade Associations. I formatted the first two references correctly, but when I tried to use the second reference twice (by using Cite error: The <ref>
tag has too many names (see the help page). the second time) it didn't work and gave me some red error. I checked the Help page it directed me too, but I still couldn't figure it out even after trying to correct it numerous times. If anyone could take a look at the page and see what the problem is, that would be greatly appreciated. --Ashershow1talk•contribs 20:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Done You didn't use " marks in one of the ref names. I simplified the ref name too. Rehevkor ✉ 20:31, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you!!! --Ashershow1talk•contribs 23:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Steps to take with a non-responsive editor
I mostly edit MMA related articles as a part of WP:MMA and we are having a problem with an editor that makes multiple disruptive edits. S/he has never posted an edit summary or anything on a talk page and I'm wondering what the proper course of action (and timeline) would be at this point. I've looked through WP:dispute resolution but most of the solutions require some kind of dialog. Thanks! ZephyrFox (talk) 03:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Without knowing who the editor is or some links to the offending edits, there is little we can do here. Try addressing the problem on the talk page(s) of the affected article(s) and inviting the editor to take part in the discussion. There are also template requests and/or warnings that you can place on an editor's talk page, including reminders for edit summaries. Use with discretion - friendly personal messages are often better. --Kudpung (talk) 08:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Further research reveals this report. When warning users, it helps to use the incremental warnings at reasonable periods within the same month, to enable the editor to read and react. A final Level 4 warning will generally alert the administrators. --Kudpung (talk) 08:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/Video_Game_Masters_Tournament
The links to ALL arcades on this page are "dead" EXCEPT for the link for "Video Paradise" in the 1983 list of arcades. You might want to delete the dead links. Again, the link for "Video Paradise" is valid and goes to a web site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.167.7.135 (talk • contribs) 01:43, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
- We typically don't delete dead links. ArcAngel (talk) ) 06:55, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Vinnie Vincent
Vinnie Vincent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I noticed that the section "The Vinnie Vincent Model Guitar" had some bad grammar, words in all-caps, etc, so I cleaned it up. In the process, I noticed that the entire section was unsourced and unverifiable. I removed most of it but left a few sentences. The page's original author, DAworDisDAword101 is apparently watching the page and continuously reverts the changes. I tried to be polite in encouraging him to discuss the reverts on the article's talk page, but he doesn't participate in the discussion. I added the "article ownership" warning to his talk page and tried to be polite there, as well. I've re-done the edit to the article a second time, but won't do it again, because I have no interest in an edit war. In any case, the majority of the entire article (not just the section I edited) appears to be original research. LesPaul75talk 18:16, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Correction - I didn't mean to say "page's original author"... I believe he might be the original author of that particular section. LesPaul75talk 18:27, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I need help
Hi. It appears that I am getting banned from contributing to admin areas, see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Topic bans for Porchcrop. See my recent talk page discussions and they say that I lack in understanding the policies and guidelines. I need help in knowing what I need to improve. Is any of you willing to help me? Thank you so much for your help. -Porchcrop 07:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Porchcrop. I've had a glance at your edits and the comments that have been made at ANI and the editor review. Lack of understanding is something that is fixable - but it's not something that you will be able to sort overnight. Whilst becoming an administrator is a possibility some time in the future, I think it is unlikely with your past record and it's something I think you should forget about. With that in mind, I do see a lot of enthusiasm, and would be willing to mentor you. If you'd be willing, I'd suggest you run through my adoption school, focus on changing your pie chart to be more red. I believe you could be a great editor. Worm 09:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC)