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Jubilees dispute

Pico, I'd like to have your input, if you don't mind, here at: Talk:Curse of Ham#Jubilees location dispute

Merging

Please express your opinion over the suggestion to merge the article Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict into Timeline of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Both articles are substantially the same, and shouldn't exist in separate. You can participate in the discussion here Talk:Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict#Merging with Timeline of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.Greyshark09 (talk) 19:20, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Face of God

Yes - it is interesting! However, I think that Moses may have got his "shining head" just for being in the presence of God, not for looking at his face. Exodus 33:20-23 indicates that Moses never saw God's face - God put His hand in front of the cleft in the rock that He put Moses in so that Moses would only see His back as He passes or "lest he should die". Fun to discuss though. Jacob also "almost" got to see God's face when he was wrestling with "a Man" in Gen 32:24-32. God/Jesus finally gets away before Jacob can see his face (and die) in the growing dawn only after blessing (and crippling) Jacob. Ckruschke (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)Ckruschke

I always thought that the King/Priest who spoke to Abraham, Melchizedek is in Gen 14 and the others that you cited are in 18, was referring to Jesus. That way I could wrap my head around both God's statement that no one can look on his face w/o dying, and the fact that an obviously Godly personage turns up in broud daylight for everyone to see in various parts of the OT.

One option for why God fades into the background as the Bible progresses through the OT is maybe because the Jews more and more turned to the paganism of their surrounding neighbors and since He was less important to them, the Jews "saw" Him working in their lives less and less. Doesn't mean that he wasn't there - the Jews just weren't seeing him. If He were human, I'd say that he was ticked that His children were almost completely ignoring Him and His teachings, but God is incapable of that kind of spite. Again, fun to speculate on. Ckruschke (talk) 16:11, 26 October 2011 (UTC)Ckruschke

Our dispute

Definition of Iron age http://en.wikipedia.org/Iron_Age The Iron Age is the archaeological period generally occurring after the Bronze Age, marked by the prevalent use of iron. The early period of the age is characterized by the widespread use of iron or steel. The adoption of such material coincided with other changes in society, including differing agricultural practices, religious beliefs and artistic styles. The Iron Age as an archaeological term indicates the condition as to civilization and culture of a people using iron as the material for their cutting tools and weapons. The Iron Age is the 3rd principal period of the three-age system created by Christian Jürgensen Thomsen for classifying ancient societies and prehistoric stages of progress

As you see if we are speaking about Iron age, the definition of Iron age is SOLELY archeological. Therefore our arguments can be based primarily on archeological findings.That is the reason why it is NECESSARY to adhere to this fact. YHVH I agree that Misplaced Pages shouldn't be used to reflect any religious rhetoric. My addition is again based on valid archeological findings and has fundamental importance in understanding of the process of transformation of Canaanite-Israelite society from polytheism to monotheism.This addition is not supposed to give credibility to any religious arguments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tritomex (talk • contribs) 23:15, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

This is the ONLY site on Misplaced Pages where we can show what has been archeologically verified from ancient Israel, and what is a myth. As you see below the sources of other sections are solely Biblical. This is something you may challenge.There are no places at Wiki (and shouldn't be other places) to give the summary of archeological facts, ESPECIALLY if we are speaking about strictly archeological sections like Iron Age sections. We are speaking about the The History of Ancient Israel and Judah and we are speaking about IRON AGE=ARCHEOLOGY — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tritomex (talk • contribs) 23:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that the the site reflecting Syro-Palestinian archaeology could be appropriate replacement for the historical and archeological facts regarding ancient Israel and Judah. I believe that anyone interested in this particular issue will not "Google" for Syro-Palestinian archaeology,rather will come to this site. Neither I think that there is general agreement between archeologist (including Israelis) that the history and archeology of ancient Israel is a part of Syro_palestinian cultural, or archeological concourse. Again, As I said before, my main argument is that in my editions,I did not go too much into the details. I mentioned very few basic archeological findings, with very strong and relevant references. Most, if not of them are related to Iron Age II, which is in fact the core of this whole subject. Considering the language of the inscription, the main reason why I only used the terms such as "writings and alphabet" without mentioning Hebrew language (as it was established to be an inscription written in Hebrew language and Hebrew writing, by Haifa university scholars, who were the only ones in charge to determine this ) was because I believed that the term "Hebrew language" would be even more controversial .In this case, I tried to find a consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tritomex (talk • contribs) 22:38, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

That inscription

Sorry, but you aren't helping. As you must know, no source says this is written in a Hebrew script (or at least I can't find one), and you removed the three sources I'd added including Garfinkel that describe the script as Proto-Canaanite, making it easier for Tritomex to keep adding his confusion (and I think he is confused here, as in the context of his source 'Hebrew writing' is referring to language, not script. Looks like the two of you are at 3RR, and I look like I'm disagreeing with both of you. I'll have to take this to RSN or somewhere at this rate. Dougweller (talk) 06:29, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Warning of sanctions

Warning of sanctions, due to history of edit warring:

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Magog the Ogre (talk) 10:13, 8 November 2011 (UTC)