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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <it is bibliographical article as any other, and presents leading creationist cosmologist who managed to find such solution of Einstein's fields equations so that references to Dark matter and Dark Energy are not needed, produced lots of peer-reviewed scientific articles, incl. on red shift phenomenon, and developed a special ultra-high-stability cryogenic sapphire oscillator-based clock that is claimed to be one of the most precise in the world, if not the most precise, used for measuring the time dilatation thus experimentally confirming the validity of the Einstain's theory by ESA agency where he works on scientific ACAS project. His book on New Physics is peer-reviewed by former consultant to the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency. He also declares to solve Horizon problem in Creationist cosmologies, and in that article he is directly mentioned independently of this created article of mine about him.--Stephfo (talk) 23:30, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Please delete this page I'm withdrawing my effort to establish it wrt. arguments present in discussion. Thanx.--Stephfo (talk) 21:25, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Notability

Is Hartnett notable for anything at all except his CMI quackery? --FergusM1970 (talk) 14:43, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Based upon (i) the dearth of third-party sourcing & (ii) the lack of articulation in the article of how he meets WP:PROF, most likely not. Hrafn_Stalk(P) 23:17, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Is he very notable in the Creationism community? That might also support inclusion, even if PROF fails. After all Phil Barker is only very well known to the wargaming community, but the community is sufficiently large, and he sufficiently well known, to warrant an article. The Creationism community is I suspect large enough to warrant a few stars. Is he one? --Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:15, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

He's not particularly notable, either for his writings or speaking/debating. In fact I had to do a Google search to confirm my suspicion (based on his being based in Australia) that he was part of CMI. Hrafn_Stalk(P) 03:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

@Elen: I also researched him for the last AfD. He's a minor player at best. Hartnett is rarely mentioned in the creationist community at all, except by CMI, the organization to which he belongs. The dearth of substantial third-party mention means he's not notable as a scientist, a creationist, or combined. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 03:42, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Notability tag

I have removed an unexplained tag from the article, and been responded to with open uncivil aggression in the edit comment, and an unsigned template on my talk page.  The casual observer will note that the addition of an explanation was less effort that the aggressions.  Unscintillating (talk) 07:01, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Unscintillating for that obstinate WP:IDIDNOTHEARTHAT of the long-running #Notability section above. Hrafn_Stalk(P) 08:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Typical Hrafn MO...... He is so loved...... Mthoodhood (talk) 08:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Unscintillating pig-headedly ignores the #Notability section above ... and I'm the villain? Have a WP:TROUT and get a clue (whoever you are)! Hrafn_Stalk(P) 08:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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