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*** The ] is another good example. Both parents and all nine children have individual articles, in addition to the one on the family itself. But each and every one of them is separately established to meet the project's notability requirements. - ] (]) 18:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC) *** The ] is another good example. Both parents and all nine children have individual articles, in addition to the one on the family itself. But each and every one of them is separately established to meet the project's notability requirements. - ] (]) 18:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
*'''question2''', following up my earlier question: has she as a deputy representative actually taken a place in parliamentary deliberations and voting? If so, she's notable--using an analogy of the same standards as we use for athletes, that the people nominally on a team actually have to play in a regular season game, not just be there in reserve. ''']''' (]) 19:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC) *'''question2''', following up my earlier question: has she as a deputy representative actually taken a place in parliamentary deliberations and voting? If so, she's notable--using an analogy of the same standards as we use for athletes, that the people nominally on a team actually have to play in a regular season game, not just be there in reserve. ''']''' (]) 19:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
*I do appriciate your concern, and this is (hopefully) not onely my advocacy for family! Hopefully you will se that this is not just a personal vendetta. There are allways a possibility that mistakes have been done. There have been people "out there" trying to erase the "Kruse"-family, and I think this is a good reason for a new revision ... ] (]) 22:31, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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20 June 2012

Erling O. Kruse

Erling O. Kruse (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

I`m impressed! You delete a Norwegian Warhero - congratulations! (... Yes I know, he is norwegian, but ...) Let`s see (to compere): Jørun Drevland (born 15 March 1944) is a Norwegian politician for the Socialist Left Party. She served as a deputy representative to the Norwegian Parliament from Nordland during the term 1993–1997. Agree, she is notable, and she is the mother of the norwegian Rock Star Sivert Høyem (and sister in-laws with the Mayor of Bergen, Norway Trude Drevland), but compared to Erling Kruse she is (sorry) a dwarf! Well - this is not my problem, but sorry to say so, but you make fools og Misplaced Pages by showing this sort of ignorance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knuand (talk • contribs)

  • Note: Deletion review formatting has been appropriately fixed. I also note that the user recreated the article right after posting this deletion review and making a comment on the AFD after its closure (). I have speedy deleted the recreation per WP:CSD#G4, but if admin wants to temporarily restore for purposes of this DRV, I certainly will not stand in the way of that. --MuZemike 21:56, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Endorse per above comments. Unanimous vote to delete by several uninvolved editors, which was properly handled by the deleting admin. This was not an abuse of process. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 22:37, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment - My impression is that someone is trying to put the Kruse genealogy in English Misplaced Pages via an article on Erling Ove Kruse (born 10 August 1922 in Oslo; a decorated Norwegian Colonel) and his ancestors and descendants:
-- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Endorse Procedure was applied correctly, the nominator has a familial conflict of interest and no new evidence of notability has been presented. A note on the medals. The English version of the article and some Norwegian versions before the current one claimed that Kruse had won the Forsvarets fortjenestemedalje (Armed Forces Medal of Merit) in addition to the five campaign and service medals. However, the citation to the Norwegian Who's Who only mentions the campaign and service medals, and not the Medal of Merit. Thus, the medals for which sources exist show nothing more than that he was a soldier. Dricherby (talk) 09:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm proud to call Erilng Ove Kruse my uncle! Who would be more qualified to write about him? Probably onely his sons and sisters. I wisited him a couple of months ago, and he told about Svalbard and the war. How he met with Shetlands Larsen and giving support to the smallbouts getting people out of Norway. Shame on you for this delition!! Erling will be 90 this summer! Shame for deliting my mother too! I'm very proud to call late Bjørn G. Andersen and Astrid E. Kruse Andersen my parents. I will not speak for them here because theis lifes speak for them selves! Why is more then one entry from the same family problematic? I can't understand that this is a criteria for delition. Obviously it is so and some of the partisipants here don't want to have "Kruse" at Wiki. Shame on you! Why?? Knuand (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
    • I appreciate your sentimentality for your family, but you have failed to give a rational argument grounded in Misplaced Pages policy. Your contribution history shows a long pattern of recreating these articles after they're repeatedly deleted with overwhelming consensus. Some things don't belong in an encyclopedia. Your persistence is admirable, but sometimes if you keep on trying it just makes you look worse. Specs112 t c 17:21, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Misplaced Pages is based on verifiability through reliable sources, not on personal knowledge. Obviously, your family is important to you but what matters on Misplaced Pages is whether a subject is important to the world at large. Because Misplaced Pages is not based on personal knowledge but on published sources, you are no more qualified than anyone else. If you can give reliable sources about your uncle (or anyone or anything else) then go ahead and do so: but, without such sources, there can be no article on Misplaced Pages. Please understand that this is not a vendetta and it is not personal. It is not an insult to not have a Misplaced Pages article. The reaction would be exactly the same if you wrote articles about my family without providing sources to show that they're notable. As has been said several times, there is no problem with having more than one article about members of a family, provided all are individually notable. Dricherby (talk) 17:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
      • The Jackson family is another good example. Both parents and all nine children have individual articles, in addition to the one on the family itself. But each and every one of them is separately established to meet the project's notability requirements. - TexasAndroid (talk) 18:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
  • question2, following up my earlier question: has she as a deputy representative actually taken a place in parliamentary deliberations and voting? If so, she's notable--using an analogy of the same standards as we use for athletes, that the people nominally on a team actually have to play in a regular season game, not just be there in reserve. DGG ( talk ) 19:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I do appriciate your concern, and this is (hopefully) not onely my advocacy for family! Hopefully you will se that this is not just a personal vendetta. There are allways a possibility that mistakes have been done. There have been people "out there" trying to erase the "Kruse"-family, and I think this is a good reason for a new revision ... Knuand (talk) 22:31, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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