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| *'''Keep''' She was only 15, but he was only 19, freshman and senior, and then they got married...Mr. R. is indeed a "notable sex offender" in that he has been punished as one, while common sense must lead us to ponder whether he is one...And the article has the nine or more national news stories to prove it, including an interview the couple did with the ], which I can assure you many campaigners would not disdain. ] was 16 and the father of her child, 18, and the most they could be prosecuted for is a misdemeanor, but so far the authorities have lacked the nerve. ] (]) 12:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' She was only 15, but he was only 19, freshman and senior, and then they got married...Mr. R. is indeed a "notable sex offender" in that he has been punished as one, while common sense must lead us to ponder whether he is one...And the article has the nine or more national news stories to prove it, including an interview the couple did with the ], which I can assure you many campaigners would not disdain. ] was 16 and the father of her child, 18, and the most they could be prosecuted for is a misdemeanor, but so far the authorities have lacked the nerve. ] (]) 12:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Not notable -- he is certainly not a "notable sex offender", and he's not notable as a campaigner, either. Just a guy trying to live his life and resolve an unwise decision made when young. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 06:11, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Re your second sentence, FR might just as well prefer publicity for the cause of his removal from the sex offender lists. WP provides neither publicity nor privacy, only accuracy and discriminateness. In those interests, I replaced the category "Sex crimes" with Category:Statutory rapists, as the former specifically states to not use it on BLP articles. Anarchangel (talk) 12:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete This is a fake biography—there is no record of birth date or place, occupation, or achievements. The article and each of its 8 references make it totally clear that the person is not notable—he is known only for one event. The fact that a particular individual fell foul of a legal quandary is gossip, and not of encyclopedic interest. What is encyclopedic is the fact that certain laws lead to controversial results, and there should be an article on that topic which may well mention this incident. Johnuniq (talk) 07:23, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- I believe you realize that there are extenuating circumstances to your definition of this article as ONEEVENT, or you would not have continued to "legal quandary", and "controversial results". So, yes, ideally we could have a Disparity of age requirement for statutory rape debate article, and this person and event would be the sole examples. There are only three examples given in the larger context provided by the statutory rape article. But this would seem to be impractical. Anarchangel (talk) 12:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep and eventually merge, once an appropriate destination can be found. Merging would be appropriate because there is a lack of much expandability of this stub article due to the limited amount of reliably sourced information available about Rodriguez. I do not think deletion would be appropriate, because the media found his story notable, and we usually follow their lead. Maybe it could become a section in an article of controversial cases involving sex offenses. We could move the article to that title and expand it to include other cases. There are organizations like Reform Sex Offender Laws, Women Against Registry, Sex Offender Solutions & Education Network, etc. whose newsletters provide links to news articles on these sorts of cases, so that could be a starting point for this research. Actually, now that I think about it, there are a lot of court cases that appear in the Criminal Law Reporter pertaining to controversies surrounding the sex offender laws. It might take awhile to build this house, but there's enough material out there that it can be done. Leucosticte (talk) 11:32, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- There could be a merge to Statutory rape, but I do not trust much in the tender mercies of editors there. It would not last a year. Anarchangel (talk) 12:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep She was only 15, but he was only 19, freshman and senior, and then they got married...Mr. R. is indeed a "notable sex offender" in that he has been punished as one, while common sense must lead us to ponder whether he is one...And the article has the nine or more national news stories to prove it, including an interview the couple did with the Today (NBC program), which I can assure you many campaigners would not disdain. Jamie Lynn Spears was 16 and the father of her child, 18, and the most they could be prosecuted for is a misdemeanor, but so far the authorities have lacked the nerve. Anarchangel (talk) 12:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Move to Frank and Nikki Rodriguez. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 12:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)