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Calvin999 is currently feeling discouraged about Misplaced Pages and is taking an off-and-on wikibreak due to loss of motivation. Your help in cheering this user up would be appreciated. He will return when his wikistress has dissipated and his confidence in the wikicommunity has been restored.

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Semi-retirement notice

I'm taking semi-retirement because in light of recent events, I think it's better if I limit my usage of editing on Misplaced Pages. I don't want to retire completely because I love editing too much to not update chart positions every week! Lol. But I do think I spend too much time here and that I am getting too complacent in the way I edit, which has been pointed out to me. I think some time away and reducing my amount of edits will do me a lot of good and hopefully change how I approach editing. I'd rather edit a little and remain interested, than edit a lot and not be interested. Because I am dedicated to Wikiproject Rihanna, I feel like I'm putting so much energy into her articles but not really getting much out of it or recognition, and everyone likes to get recognition for something as it motivates you to want to do more. I will still come on Misplaced Pages, but I won't be able to respond to things as quickly as I usually do. Aaron • 12:32, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hope you have fun while on break. Maybe going out to the beach well do some good :D Nonetheless, your work on Rihanna is well appreciated. Best, Jonayo! 12:47, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't live near a beach :(. Lol. Aaron • 13:01, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

LOLZ well take a road trip with some friends :D Best, Jonayo! 13:11, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Lol, well it's a bit far away, but I'm getting a new car in September, and I'm gunna drive to Paris for the weekend for a little road trip :). Aaron • 13:12, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Multiple violations of voluntary 1RR

You have been temporarily blocked for violating your 1RR restriction (within 24 hours of agreeing to it) on Talk:California Gurls/GA1 and Talk:Super Bass/GA1. Usually violations of restrictions are automatic indef blocks. I had hopes you would have done better. Please be advised, your 1RR remains in effect after this block expires. Toddst1 (talk) 19:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

• ???? Seriously? The blocks are getting old now. The first couple of blocks were probably in line, but this in my opinion is just unnecessary. The purpose is to help with the project and build up an encyclopedia. What good is it to block the editors every couple of days? I'm just empathising here. Till I Go Home 04:01, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I empathize too, but when you make a promise, you'd better see it out. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:48, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

That counts as a revert? Aaron • 11:55, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

You absolutely asserted ownership on those two pages over someone's objections by twice undoing the effects of one or more edits, which effectively ruslted in the page being restored to a version that existed previously. Same problem, different day, new block.

Yes, the blocks have gotten old now. So has the ownership and edit warring. Toddst1 (talk) 14:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Even though I was the original reviewer and I created the review pages. Okay, well, I'm going to log out for two weeks so I can't look on Misplaced Pages. It will save me wanting to be able to edit even though I can't. Aaron • 15:26, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, yes. The correct thing to do if you wanted to be the reviewer would have been to leave a note on Status' talk page saying you'd like to resume your role as reviewer, rather than just going in and asserting your desire by making the change. If s/he disagreed, you would discuss it but you should be prepared to respectfully disagree and walk away, without making the change. This is how we do it. Toddst1 (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Another option would have been to go to the GAN talk page and point out what happened to Hahc and Wizardman; given that there's a drive going on, the removal of these reviews from you after you'd signed up for them could have been challenged, since a week's block is a questionable reason for doing so as you would easily have been able to finish the reviews in a reasonable time frame. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

User: Status was unwilling to let me review even though he didn't ask me if he could take over, and also exercised ownership by reverting twice on both review articles and edit warred, however, that has gone unnoticed. Aaron • 17:45, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I would have been more than willing to let Calvin take the reviews back, but he did so without asking or discussing with me. And when I reverted such action he did, he reverted me back once again calling my reviews "poorly". As I told him (which he clearly doesn't understand, because according to him, everyone is out to get him) I only took them over because the reviewer wanted the reviews done as quickly as could be done, since they had other things to do. Statυs (talk) 18:42, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

This is the first time you have said about letting me do them, so don't make it sound like you was going to. As from our conversation on your talk page, you were certainly not willing to let me review it. Status, you are failing to understand, I was going to review them. You never asked me if you could take over. I notice that Super Bass still isn't completely reviewed yet. If you had of just let me review it like I was going to, I would have had it certainly completely reviewed and on hold by now, and probably a GA. So you taking over me in order to fulfill the nominators request to have it done ASAP hasn't actually come to fruition. Aaron • 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe I said I would have been willing if you just asked me about it first. Instead, you were all "taking back my review because it is all mine". Then you criticized my reviews, and told me how much I was "copying" your review "format", whatever the hell that even means; especially since I have been reviewing in the same way since I first started in December 2010. "Super Bass" has the same issues that "California Girls" has. The references are terrible, so I told the user to fix those up first before I review the prose of the article. Clearly, the user is now in their busy state, and that is not my fault. If I got myself blocked and someone offered to take on the reviews that I never began yet, I would be more than pleased and would thank the user. Statυs (talk) 20:24, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Calvin, you weren't blocked for what Status did or didn't do. You were blocked for what you did. It's clear at this point you haven't internalized the things you have been blocked for.

Let me be very clear: You have a acute problem with trying to WP:OWN things on Misplaced Pages - articles, reviews, whatever. You edit war over owning them. Because you keep doing those things, you are now blocked and will be subject to a 1RR editing restriction for the next 6 months - assuming you don't get reblocked. If you don't change the way you approach editing here - at a basic level - you won't be editing much in the future. It's as simple as that.

Please take the next two weeks to think about how you work with folks here and how your interactions with others can be vastly improved. You can fix this if you want to. Toddst1 (talk) 23:58, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

• Calvin, Status, there's no need to argue. There will be plenty more nominations to come. In Calvin's defense, he was the original reviewer, but I don't think Status meant any harm in taking over the reviews since he got blocked. It's all just a misunderstanding. What's the real issue here is a lengthy block (imo) for this altercation. I don't think he wanted to break his restriction, he just wanted the review back probably. Till I Go Home 02:45, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

As I said, all he could have said to me was "I'm no longer blocked, since you didn't do very much with the reviewer, would you mind if I took them back?" and I would have complied. But that's not what he did. The block is at its length because of previous offenses. The more blocks you have, the longer they go up for. Statυs (talk) 03:54, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay I'm sorry I was just expressing my view on the matter pleasedonthatemelol. Till I Go Home 08:32, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll address the so-called "lengthy" nature. Misplaced Pages's block system works on escalation - they get longer each time. After all, most users are never blocked, and those that do are expected to amend their behaviour after the first one. Calvin was blocked for a day on June 7 for edit-warring and attempting to bully. On June 11, it happened again: escalated to 2 days. On the 21st it happened again: was given a week. Calvin agreed to restrictions in order to get that block removed, and went right back to the same behaviour - hence a month block as escalation. 4 blocks in less than a month for the exact same behaviour is what led to the length of block. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Bwilkins. Well put. Minor correction: he's only blocked for 2 weeks. I seriously considered a month but in a moment of light-handedness only hit the 2-week PDL element. As Bwilkins said, a month would not be out of line given the pattern of disruption. Toddst1 (talk) 09:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

For whoever sees this

This is WP:OR, yet no one has noticed. Aaron • 19:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

You may not edit by proxy. If you wish me to disable your access to this talkpage, keep it up. = ✉→BWilkins←✎ 20:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes I know I can't edit, I'm blocked, hence why I wrote it here. How is saying that someone has added original research to an article something which equates to me having my talk page disabled??? 22:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Because the ONLY reason you have access to this page is to request unblock. Asking someone else to make an edit, or alerting others to make the edit is editing by proxy, and will lead to this page being locked for the duration of the block (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Well you should have explained that to me first instead of simply saying that you will revoke my access to my talk page without explanation, as I didn't know. Aaron • 22:52, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Removing WP:OR from an article is more important than blocking someone's talk page. Misplaced Pages's policies/rules aside, it looks very awkward to come here and tell him that he can't write on his own talk page. Just saying. Till I Go Home 04:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Home is right. I think that if a blocked user uses their talk page to notice other users of original research on an article, is an exemplary case when we must ignore all rules. This actions can never be done in bad faith, and shows the commitment the user has with the project. I'm not trying to protect Calvin, as I speak in general, but I think this principle applies here. —Hahc21 04:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Really? No. Someone else had already fixed it without looking here. Let's not all kid ourselves: none of us is irreplaceable, and suggesting that because a small problem has existed that it won't eventually be fixed. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I have to say I don't think it's fair to condone me for trying to help remove WP:OR. Also, it was reverted half an hour after you responded to me BWilikins, and over an hour after I first presented it here, so who's to say that someone didn't see this? Regardless, it's been reverted now. Aaron • 11:22, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Leona Lewis

I'll remove this for the time being, of course feel free to recreate it when you're unblocked. Instead of "failing" it, I'll just delete it to save us both a little bit of hassle. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Aaron • 11:19, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

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