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Bleached Corals?
Could somebody please place a picture of the bleached versus the still alive corals? This might help to understqnd the process. Thanks!
population density
These numbers don't make sense. 10,036.9/km2 (11th) 2,866.9/sq mi You would assume /km2 would be lower than /sq mi, not the other way around.
- These are inverse km2 (No. of people per km2), thus slash /. Materialscientist (talk) 00:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Materialscientist doesn't understand this. The original commenter is right - the numbers don't make sense. A square mile is much larger than a square kilometer. Thus, you would expect more people to be in a square mile than a square kilometer. Indeed, this appears to be a typo. The World Bank reports population density in the Maldives in 2010 to be 1052.95/km2, or 2685.55/sq mi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.227.130 (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
coup
currently the country is in a very worse state. Places are burning down, president resigned yesterday. Militia is bbeaten. Not cool — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.153.80.28 (talk) 19:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Reported 02/09/2012 Democracy Now http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/9/ousted_maldives_pres_mohamed_nasheed_a
Coup in Maldives: Adviser to Ousted Pres. Mohamed Nasheed Speaks Out from Hiding as Arrest Sought
The first democratically elected president of the tiny Indian Ocean state of Maldives, Mohamed Nasheed, has been ousted in what he has described as a coup d’état at gunpoint. A longtime pro-democracy activist who was jailed for six years, Nasheed has achieved international prominence as a leading campaigner to save island nations from global warming. Earlier today, Nasheed said an arrest warrant has been issued for him following two days of street protests against the coup. We speak with Paul Roberts, who served as Nasheed’s communications adviser and was with him on the day of the coup. Roberts says he fears a warrant has been issued for his own arrest and speaks to us from an undisclosed location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.214.152 (talk) 02:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Most of the section called "Challenges" is propaganda supporting the coup. Somebody with expertise on the matter needs to replace that section with a historically accurate account. If that is not done in the next week, I will delete that section and request a replacement. ---Dagme (talk) 06:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
This is my first time editing on Misplaced Pages, so apologies in advance if I was overly bold in making some changes here. I don't claim any expertise (see Dagme above), but agreed that much of this section read like propaganda, so I made some changes based on news reports I'd seen, and cited them accordingly. One was an op ed piece by Nasheed himself in The New York Times, the other by Reuters. They both felt more pertinent than the previous blog posts. (There could be more, like the Democracy Now link by anonymous, above. The section still seems unnecessarily pro-coup.) I hope the edits are okay. Antocalypse (talk) 17:39, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
"The section still seems unnecessarily pro-coup." Agreed. It is still unacceptable and I hope somebody steps up soon to make the substantive changes that are needed. I believe that the propagandist also vandalized this talk section, but that seems fixed now. Let's get this taken care of. --- Dagme (talk) 23:14, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Destruction of ancient Buddha statues
The article of the NYTimes about the topic
Some of the 30 statues of the National Museum (Maldives) were nearly 1400 years old. Ali Waheed (the director of National Museum) stated: "The collection was totally, totally smashed. The whole pre-Islamic history is gone."
Is it possible to add this to the article? Perhaps it would also fit here or here. --Askalan (talk) 19:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- The destruction of Hindu and Buddhist history of Maldives is a very serious matter. It shows lesser religious tolerance towards religion other than the state religion of Islam. This must be there in the religious section.Religiousfreedom (talk) 06:56, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Republic of Maldives vs. Maldives Misplaced Pages pgs
If I'm not mistaken, everything on the Republic of Maldives page is almost the same thing on the Maldives page...Except, the Maldives page has a semi-nude Buddhist Tara picture. I suggest we remove the Buddhist Tara picture, as IMO it sort of ruins the page, in order to keep it identical with the Republic of Maldives page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwix (talk • contribs) 21:51, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Identical with what page exactly? Buddhism was a important part of the Maldivian history, thatswhy it would not be acceptable to remove the picture.--Askalan (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- That's weird; on the Republic of Maldives page it did not show that picture, but now it shows it...Yes buddhism is an important part of the Maldivian history, but my point was previously that there was a picture on 1 page and not on the other and that we should take it down to match the other page...Anyway, I think it would still be better if we removed the picture so it could be easily accessed by students who are doing projects on Maldives, so that they wouldn't have to look at semi-nude photographs. You can still keep the history about buddhism; the picture is just decor. Kiwix (talk) 05:11, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- What page do you actually mean? Write a link or something.
- To your other point: Semi-nude Picture? Really? It is doesn´t matter, it was a important part of the history, so it stays here. If you think that´s kind of offensive or something, don´t use this site. Make your own prude muslim site if you want to. There is a reason Misplaced Pages is called "The Free Enzyclopedia".--Askalan (talk) 12:37, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- That's weird; on the Republic of Maldives page it did not show that picture, but now it shows it...Yes buddhism is an important part of the Maldivian history, but my point was previously that there was a picture on 1 page and not on the other and that we should take it down to match the other page...Anyway, I think it would still be better if we removed the picture so it could be easily accessed by students who are doing projects on Maldives, so that they wouldn't have to look at semi-nude photographs. You can still keep the history about buddhism; the picture is just decor. Kiwix (talk) 05:11, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Neutrality of Section on 2012 Coup
The section currently violates WP:NPOV as well as WP:Sources. If there was corruption under Nasheed, please reference a legitimate source that covers a specific incident, not anti-Nasheed blogsites that merely express their writers' opinions.Jdkag (talk) 12:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to wade on in here (Warning! Newbie trying to live up to the BE BOLD policy I read about), but even though it was a violation, would the better course simply be to remove it rather than add a place holder then talk here? I reverted it in the mean time ^^ Terkaal (talk) 07:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Apparently nothing has been done about the NPOV issues on this section. This should be reported so appropriate editors can correct the content. --Perew (talk) 00:33, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
The section was a complete, unintelligible, unencyclopaedic mess. I've tidied up the existing information so that it actually forms some kind of coherent narrative and removed the POV. The section isn't at all up to date with the developments in the Maldives, but I can't be bothered typing up new sections right now. At least the stuff that was already there is presentable now. 86.17.19.215 (talk) 09:16, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
This edit war is ridiculous. The original version of this section was completely unencyclopaedic. If you don't like what it's been changed to, discuss it and modify it, but reverting it to its original state is not an option. Misplaced Pages is not a place for one-sided, unsourced, sarcastic rants about politicians. 86.17.19.215 (talk) 23:02, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- The current version I am reading is not perfect, but hardly a one sided sarcastic rant. Can you be more specific? Also, I think the subsection should be changed to "Nasheed Presidency" or something similar. The content is about more than just his "ousting." Ditch ∝ 18:45, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Most of the text seems acceptable enough, but this part seems seriously biased: "From that moment on, Maldivians are being bombarded with vastly differing versions of events on 7 February and prior to that. Unfortunately, President Waheed appears to be too busy lurching from crisis to crisis led by the nose by his coalition partners and by Nasheed, to bother about a small matter such as an investigation into allegations of a military coup." I will go ahead and remove this part from the article, as it equates to editorializing and adds little to nothing from a content perspective. Kansan (talk) 18:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. The version I first read did not include that language. I see it in the diffs, but am having trouble distinguishing who originally inserted it. Anyway, doesn't really matter. Hopefully people will start talking this out, rather than edit warring. Ditch ∝ 19:20, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Most of the text seems acceptable enough, but this part seems seriously biased: "From that moment on, Maldivians are being bombarded with vastly differing versions of events on 7 February and prior to that. Unfortunately, President Waheed appears to be too busy lurching from crisis to crisis led by the nose by his coalition partners and by Nasheed, to bother about a small matter such as an investigation into allegations of a military coup." I will go ahead and remove this part from the article, as it equates to editorializing and adds little to nothing from a content perspective. Kansan (talk) 18:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Uh Oh...
We may have a problem here. Same section, a few paragraphs down:
The cited source reads: Nasheed alleges that 18 security service officers pointed guns at his head and demanded that he resign. He says that, if he did not resign, the MNDF officers threatened to fire upon the public. First Lt. Ali Ihusan categorically denied that. He said that, he had been on the ground from the late afternoon of February 6th, had interacted with and been close to Nasheed several times during the events, but had not witnessed any MNDF officers asking Nasheed to resign. On the contrary, he too had been present when Nasheed asked several officers present whether he should resign. He contends that the call for resignation came from outside, fuelled by an escalation of the situation due to misjudgments by Nasheed and his ministers in handling the situation that day.
The article reads: Nasheed alleges that 18 security service officers pointed guns at his head and demanded that he resign. He says that, if he did not resign, the MNDF officers threatened to fire upon the public. First Lt. Ali Ihusan categorically denied that. He said that, he had been on the ground from the late afternoon of 6 February, had interacted with and been close to Nasheed several times during the events, but had not witnessed any MNDF officers asking Nasheed to resign. On the contrary, he too had been present when Nasheed asked several officers present whether he should resign. He contends that the call for resignation came from outside, fuelled by an escalation of the situation due to misjudgments by Nasheed and his ministers in handling the situation that day.
I'm not going to use the "p" word here, or dig through the diffs to see who did this, but it is definitely very concerning. I'm going to work on fixing this section, but if anyone has some time, it might be helpful to check the language of some of the other sources vs. the article text to make sure this is not a larger problem. Ditch ∝ 19:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see any down paragraphs except the differentiates between the date 6 February and February 6th. --Raptor232 (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- It's me, Kansan again (I changed my username yesterday): I noticed that this source is used for some of the contentious areas, and frankly, this doesn't strike me as a reliable source at all; it is a blog post that takes a definitive POV and makes no bones about it. Can a better source be found? Against the current (talk) 15:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- Addendum: I removed one instance where this blog was simply noted as a duplicate source to Al Jazeera (clearly reliable), and I removed one paragraph entirely based on the blog, all of which contained potentially contentious material. One instance of the blog being cited still remains because I have not yet figured out how best to handle it, and I would hope somebody else takes a look at it in the meantime if I do not have time to get back to it immediately. Against the current (talk) 15:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- The artilce clearly states what happened in February 7th day President nasheed resigned, What proof do you have to say that the source in not reliable? It clearly states what happened in February 7th day President nasheed resigned. So do not judge based on a point of view. --Raptor232 (talk) 16:45, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- The article does more than say that the President resigned. It goes on and claims to talk about "what really happened", as if it were promoting some sort of conspiracy. It takes a definite side and is not wirtten in an unbiased manner. And I don't think the site is reliable at all; it's listed as somebody's blog, and I took a look at what else the website has. One article I found is called "The miraculous nature of the Quran." This is clearly not a reliable news site, and whether the government links to it (which hasn't been proven) is irrelevant. Against the current (talk) 16:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- That's a poor excuse cause to remove it. The artile is about ousting president nasheed not praising him. --Raptor232 (talk) 17:01, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- I reverted your changes because you were given a poor excuse to remove a artile that came from a reliable source. --Raptor232 (talk) 17:10, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- I have given you several reasons why I do not think the source is reliable and you have responded to none of them. You only continue to assert that it is reliable but asserting it does not make it so. Against the current (talk) 17:13, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- The article does more than say that the President resigned. It goes on and claims to talk about "what really happened", as if it were promoting some sort of conspiracy. It takes a definite side and is not wirtten in an unbiased manner. And I don't think the site is reliable at all; it's listed as somebody's blog, and I took a look at what else the website has. One article I found is called "The miraculous nature of the Quran." This is clearly not a reliable news site, and whether the government links to it (which hasn't been proven) is irrelevant. Against the current (talk) 16:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see any down paragraphs except the differentiates between the date 6 February and February 6th. --Raptor232 (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
geology
The geography section could do with some information on the geology, that is, on the origin of the islands. Do they follow the path of an ancient volcanic hot spot? Cesiumfrog (talk) 09:08, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Redundancy in '2012 ousting of President Nasheed' section
In the '2012 ousting of President Nasheed' section the 4th paragraph is redundant with sections of the 3rd paragraph. The redundancy should be eliminated. Tweisbach (talk) 09:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Relevance
Does this content belong to this article? --SMS 12:29, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Merge with Maldive Islands?
There is a short stub at Maldive Islands. The feedback left by users indicates that the article is causing confusion in unexperienced readers, who probably arrived there from Google or the search function and expected to find the proper article about the Maldives. True, it does link back to this article clearly enough, but is it even necessary? Wouldn't a redirect suffice? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:32, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Technically, it also encompasses Minicoy Island, but even our own article Maldives isn't really consistent on this. Perhaps we could make a note somewhere in Maldives that that island (owned by India) is technically considered part of the islands (if this is even true), and merge. This is exactly how we should be handling reader feedback and heartens me that the feature is doing some good. Kansan (talk) 19:37, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
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