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I like the move and the list. List of islands needs some work, maybe should there be a separate list for inhabited and uninhabited Irish coastal islands Zymurgy19:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
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thanks a bunch CT - I just saw that - decided that as my previous effort to introduce a bit of WikiLove, pacify and move things on was misconstrued so thoroughly, I had better just pass on contributing further at this point in case I made it even worse! --Zymurgy (talk) 22:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
These things happen, there is no need to stop contributing. Bleubeatle is a relatively new user and maybe just got the wrong end of the stick here; don't take it to heart. CT Cooper · talk22:58, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
thanks! well I won't reply to the "minor issue" as you call it - clearly nothing I say about that is going to make anyone feel better!! anyway I appreciate you getting in touch as well as the upbeat message --Zymurgy (talk) 23:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
No of course not Bleu - I saw your point even though I didn't particularly agree with it - I thought that at that time you were handling the situation with good humour despite being very outnumbered so I was hoping to help move things along with a bit of WikiLove. So no hard feelings at my end --Zymurgy (talk) 05:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Misplaced Pages articles, and welcome our new members to the project. It is easy for editors to get into conflict with each other, and things can get very nasty on the most trivial of issues, whether that be on the language of songs, the names of certain countries, or how we deal with incidents at the contest. In such circumstances it is worth remembering one thing: we are all here to build an encyclopedia, and the contribution of Eurovision to human knowledge can only be given justice if we work together and make articles, not drama!
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The 2012 season of Eurovision has drawn to a close, and we now start preparations for the 2013 edition. While things will be slow to start of with, now is the ideal opportunity to do a clean-up exercise across articles relating to the project. There's over 4,500 articles associated with the project. If you happen to see a Eurovision related article without the {{EurovisionNotice}} template on the article's talk page, please add it. You can also read Misplaced Pages:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment if you would like to help assess or reassess articles in our project if you see that they have outgrown their current assessment. There is currently one unassessed article.
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So far 20 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Sweden. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
The EBU extended the submission deadline to 29 June 2012. So far only 8 countries confirmed participations, and the contest needs a minimum of eleven in order for the show to continue. Bulgaria have withdrawn.
On 11 May 2012, Norwegian, Eivind Holtsmark Ringstad, won the 16th Eurovision Young Musicians 2012, in Vienna, Austria. This is a biennial event, and the next contest will take place in 2014, with Vienna most likely to be the host nation for a fifth consecutive time.
Glasgow were the hosts of the Eurovision Dance Contest 2008, and since then there have been no announcements of the contest continuing with a third edition.
Members The project had 90 members, with eighty-six active, and four inactive members at the time of publication. If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list Have you encountered an editor who is interested in Eurovision? Then why not place our invitation template on their talk page and welcome them to the project..
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Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Misplaced Pages articles, and welcome our new members to the project.
The past month has been an eventful one for the project as a whole. Old dramas have closed, new ones have begun. Four articles nominated for GA review, three of them passed and promoted, with one of them making ProjectEurovision history by being the first annual contest article to ever achieve GA status. If it wasn't for the hard work and the many hours of team collaborations that we have endured on this project, then those accolades would never have been gained. Each of those article promotions are as a result of your continuous determination to be part of the best team this project has seen for a long time. There is a teamwork barnstar with this newsletter for you to cherish and you may display the award on your pages if you wish. Now we look to the months ahead and start preparations for Malmo 2013, and see if we can work to getting another annual article to GA status. Here's to you - the team of excellence.
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And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
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So far 21 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Sweden. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
Israel announced on 10 July 2012 that they will make their début in Amsterdam. Thus bringing the total number of confirmed participant to 9 countries so far. The contest needs a minimum of eleven in order for the show to continue. The EBU had extended the submission deadline to 29 June 2012, although no further details in regards to the contest has been released.
On 11 May 2012, Norwegian, Eivind Holtsmark Ringstad, won the 16th Eurovision Young Musicians 2012, in Vienna, Austria. This is a biennial event, and the next contest will take place in 2014, with Vienna most likely to be the host nation for a fifth consecutive time.
Glasgow were the hosts of the Eurovision Dance Contest 2008, and since then there have been no announcements of the contest continuing with a third edition.
The RfC discussion in regards to article layout, is still taking place on the project talk page. Could all members please ensure that they participate in the discussion so that we can all agree on important article structure issues. If you don't take part, then you only have yourselves to blame if a consensus is passed that you disagree with.
Creating a page for each country participating in the contest each year. This will give information about the year in Eurovision for that country, like how the song was chosen (selection events), how well it did, any other information about its participation that year.
On Misplaced Pages, it is very important not only to have the correct information, but to show where you got it from so it can be verified. Editor's should be finding additional sources to reference information with.
This project also includes checking all similar pages to make sure things are consistent across the board and correcting any errors. A listing of pages marked for some sort of cleanup is available here.
When creating new articles about a performer or song, please remember to add sources either from Eurovision.tv, ESCToday or other reliable sources. If you're not sure a source is reliable enough, then ask others members of the project.
Assessing project pages. The first thing to do to assess an article is to add {{EurovisionNotice}}, the project banner, to the talk page of an article if it does not have one. If an article already has a banner, you should assess the article using the assessment scale. Assessing articles gives us a good idea about the quality of the articles in our project and can help identify short comings.
Remember to only add content to articles that is relevant to the article's main subject. Anything not in relation to the article may be questioned and/or subject to redirection to an article that would benefit it's inclusion. Again if in doubt, ask on the article or project talk pages for an opinion - communication is an important tool.
On the subject of communication, please make use of the article talk pages. They are a vital tool in conducting consensus talks of additions of proposed new sections and/or removal of unnecessary section. If you don't use these pages to put across your views, then you only have yourself to blame if actions are taken that you disagree with and you end up wandering into edit warring territory.
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This barnstar is awarded to every member of Project Eurovision for their contributions as a team towards Eurovision Song Contest 2012 article, which as a result gained the project its first Eurovision by Year article a GA Status. Thank you! - WP:ESC
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Please note that there have been some changes to operations surrounding Eurovision articles, these being that:
Template names have now been modernised and/or megred into super-templates, for example Countries in the Eurovision Song Contest has now been merged into Template:Eurovision Song Contest making it even easier to find everything under one template. If you are planning to create a new template, please keep the standardised titles in mind. Other templates have been modernised and a full list of them can be found here.
The Eurovision Song Contest and Junior Eurovision Song Contest articles have now been standardised to keep a consitancy throughout the project and to the genral reader too. Skeleton article drafts can be found for Eurovision Song Contest by Year and Junior Eurovision Song Contest by Year.
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And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
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The RfC discussion in regards to article layout has now closed. Visit here to read the concluding report. A new discussion is taking place regarding a proposal on Project Reform. You contributions in the discussion are vital.
On 11 May 2012, Norwegian, Eivind Holtsmark Ringstad, won the 16th Eurovision Young Musicians 2012, in Vienna, Austria. This is a biennial event, and the next contest will take place in 2014, with Vienna most likely to be the host nation for a fifth consecutive time.
Glasgow were the hosts of the Eurovision Dance Contest 2008, and since then there have been no announcements of the contest continuing with a third edition.
So far 25 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Sweden. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
Albania announced on 25 July 2012 that they will make their début in Amsterdam, and Moldova confirmed their participation. Thus bringing the total number of confirmed participant to eleven countries so far.
Asiavision Pte's Our Sound: The Asia-Pacific Song Contest seems to have been indefinitely postponed. However, the Asia-Pacific Broadcasting Union (ABU) are launching their own versions; which are not to be confused with Our Sound or Eurovision Song Contest. The "cultural extravaganza" concept may be the same, but the format is completely different. The Radio Festival will be competitive, while the TV Festival is just a showcase of music so is non-competitive.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 - Twenty-six entries from sixteen countries took part in a preliminary selection round. Of those, fifteen have been selected and will perform in the first ABU Radio Song Festival on 11 October 2012.
ABU TV Song Festival 2012 - Thirteen countries have confirmed participation in the first ABU TV Song Festival on 14 October 2012.
Members The project had 90 members, with eighty-six active, and four inactive members at the time of publication. If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list Have you encountered an editor who is interested in Eurovision? Then why not place our invitation template on their talk page and welcome them to the project..
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The London Olympic and Paralympic games have ended, and just as their motto stated, they truly did inspire a generation. This got me thinking how could we as a project for Eurovision related material may be able to inspire the next generation of Eurovision fans? RfC discussions have already underway on the project talk page regarding article layouts, how we can better present our articles to provide a more in-depth knowledge into the contests. One such discussion in regards to layout of Contest by Year articles has already become a success, and provided the project with its first ever GA-class article. So in reality, implementing the same layout across other articles should produce the same output. A similar discussion into layout style for Country in a Contest related articles is also taking place. This project is constantly evolving as more and more editors join the team. We've redesigned the home page for Project Eurovision in a bid it entices new people to join the team. A project can't survive on stale movement, it needs evolution to add excitement to the project. So lets use October to inspire each other to do better, to work more collaboratively, and to entice the next generation of editors to the project team.
Also be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
If you would like something to appear in the next edition of Eurovision Monthly, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
So far 35 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Malmö. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
7 countries have announced the dates of their national finals.
Andorra, Czech Republic, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, and Morocco confirm they will not be present in Malmö.
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. 12 countries have confirmed their participation with Albania, Azerbaijan, and Israel making their début.
4 countries have already selected either a song, artists, or both. With 6 national selections taking place these next few weeks.
Azerbaijan, Israel, and Moldova have yet to announce their national selection plans.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 - Fifteen entries will perform in the first ABU Radio Song Festival on 11 October 2012. Please check for information on this contest as it happens and update the article accordingly.
ABU TV Song Festival 2012 - Eleven countries have confirmed participation in the first ABU TV Song Festival on 14 October 2012. Please check for information on this contest as it happens and update the article accordingly.
Mongolia who had already selected their representative, withdrew from the contest on 14 September.
We could do with members working on creating Country pages for each participant. Please make sure to use reliable source when citing content. And for those unfamiliar on how to create a new article, contact someone on the project talk page or use a sandbox.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
We are almost at the end of another great Eurovision year, with preparations now well under way for the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest. Individual entry articles are slowly appearing at Template:Eurovision Song Contest 2013, although as happens every year, there is tendency to create these article prematurely. Please don't create them without a good two paragraphs of information to post, and with at least two reliable sources of information cited - remember every article has to pass the Misplaced Pages:Notability guideline independently.
There is a lot going on at WT:EURO at the moment too, and every project member should have this talk page on their watchlist. The current RfC on country article layout is suffering from a lack of participation - myself and others may not agree with every suggestion made, but we won't bite people's heads off, so please feel free to comment! If you feel like you'll be out of your depth over there, you should know that it was a suggestion by a newbie that resulted in a complete re-structuring of all Eurovion templates, so you don't have to be an "old timer" to bring new ideas to the table! On the same page is a proposal to re-license Eurovision logos uploaded locally, and since this will have a big impact on how we handle logos, some further feedback would be appreciated.
As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
If you would like something to appear in the next edition of Eurovision Monthly, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
Please only add countries who have explicitly stated they will be competing, citing a reliable source. Anything not cited may be removed. If in doubt - ask someone for an opinion!
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Twelve countries have confirmed their participation with Albania, Azerbaijan, and Israel making their début.
As the contest will be starting in the next few weeks, then the article may become subjected to vandalism from random IP accounts. Please be vigilant and revert any vandalism that you find. Thank you.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 - On 11 October 2012 the first ABU Radio Song Festival took place in the Korean capital of Seoul. South Korea won the Grand Prix award with the song "For a Rest" performed by boy band Billy Acoustie. Danielle Blakey representing Australia won the gold award with the song "Fearless", Brunei received the silver award with the song "The sweetest memory" performed by Maria Aires, with Sammy Ray Jones also representing Australia receiving the bronze award with his song "Rinet". K-Town Clan representing Malaysia received the special jury award with their song "Party Animal" and thus finished in fifth place.
ABU TV Song Festival 2012 - Eleven countries performed in the first ABU TV Song Festival on 14 October 2012. The contest was non-competitive and thus no winners.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
Hi Zymurgy. Re your message (http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:72.94.34.162&diff=cur), I reverted the Slavoj Žižek page to an earlier edit to revert a vandalistic edit (a user by the name of Sandokant has been continually adding uncited aspersions to the introductory text and throughout the article). I thought I had left a description of the change, but I apologize if it was missing. Either way, the vandalism seems to have been removed from the current version of the page, and Sandokant seems to have been dealt with by an admin, so all's well that ends well.
Thanks for that - Žižek does revel in occasional provocative comments which could invite controversy but as long as aspersions are cited and notable I suppose there can be room for them. Good luck with your editing. --Zymurgy (talk) 21:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - December 2012
Your monthly ProjectEurovision newsletter has arrived. Click show to open.
With the festive season a matter of days away and 2012 rapidly drawing to a close, I'd like to take the time to reflect on the last 12 months as a project community, and look ahead to 2013. 2012 witnessed the period when Azerbaijan got to showcase their capital city Baku to the rest of Europe. Preparations for the contest were not the smoothest ever seen, but come the day of the contest everything seemed to have knitted together OK. Concerns over the longevity of the Junior Contest were also raised when the lowest participation ever recorded. Fans worried that the contest would be brought to an abrupt end, however, with 3 new countries debuting the contest went ahead as planned.
The project also seen the start of two new contests, ABU Radio Song Festival and ABU TV Song Festival, which were both staged in the Korean capital of Seoul. The host nation won the first edition of the festival. And so we look ahead to 2013, with Sweden hosting the Eurovision Song Contest for a fifth time, and for the second time in the city of Malmö. Vietnam is expected to host the 2013 ABU TV Song Festival, with the Radio Festival having a year break, which won't be hosted again until 2014 in Australia. Details about the 2013 Junior Eurovision Song Contest are still unknown. As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
And so I would like to take this opportunity to wish all our project members a Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year! Wesley
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
Please only add countries who have explicitly stated they will be competing, citing a reliable source. Anything not cited may be removed. If in doubt - ask someone for an opinion!
Ukraine won the tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest, in Amsterdam, Netherlands, with the song "Nebo" performed by Anastasia Petryk. Twelve countries participated with Albania, Azerbaijan, and Israel making their début.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
Eg. "How Do I Live" is a non-album single as the song was never released on an album until 2003 on her Greatest Hits, the extended mix of the song however was released on an album but the extended mix is not the same thing. Several sources can point that "What Have I Done" was released as an album from Spitfire as the lead single. "Borrowed" is not the lead single and "What Have I Done" is not a promotional single and I have sourced that. Also there is no need for 2 Promotional single sections wouldn't you agree? 184.58.3.213 (talk) 23:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is the correct way to contact you, so I'm sorry if my question is misplaced.
My question pertains to your denying of my demand of a citation to this paragraph on the Astrology page: "At the end of the 17th century, new scientific concepts in astronomy (such as heliocentrism) called astrology into question, and subsequent controlled studies failed to confirm its predictive value. Astrology thus lost its academic and theoretical standing."
I asked for a source that proves the fact that astrology lost its academic standing. Also, links for the controlled studies would be cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.32.46.131 (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I agree that this passage is not well written, whoever wrote it, but the point that astrology lacks theoretical standing does not require a citation. Th\at said, there is probably a way to re write to make this clear without making points that you might argue need a citation. --Zymurgy (talk) 01:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I see it - either provide citation that it lost its academic standing, or delete the "academic and" part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.32.46.131 (talk) 01:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi my name is Mike I just wanted to let you know that article got redirected because it seemed to me that nothing important was on there to have it stand it alone if u think I made a mistake then okay talk to me in my talk page but other wise there should be no problem? It's already considered for deletion anyway so I just left it alone without touching it and I don't plan on doing anything to it but if you think it's a mistake then discuss it in the article's talk page! User talk:Welcometothenewmillenium21:09, 27 December 2012 (UTC)