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Drawing circuits

Hi. I noticed the mention at WP:ELEC#Drawing circuits of vector graphics and Acorn Computers. Draw on its own wouldn't satisfy the criteria, which is presumably why it's not listed at WP:WikiProject Electronics/Programs. But now there is cheap ARM hardware available (especially the imminent Raspberry Pi) perhaps some programmers around here with (with plenty of free time) might fancy writing something suitable to interface with Draw! Just a thought! -- Trevj (talk) 22:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Help for correction

Copied from Misplaced Pages:Help desk#Help for correction

I wrote a detailed article about “Dielectric absorption”, please see under User:Elcap/Dielectric absorption This article was translated from German, but I am not an expert of the English language. If someone please can help and correct my mistakes I would be very glad. --Elcap (talk) 15:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I will take a look at this. SpinningSpark 17:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Audio electronics redirect

I just noticed that audio electronics has been redirected to audio engineering since 2008. This is highly inappropriate, but understandable for anyone not aware of what audio engineers actually do, so I have reverted it to its pre-redirect state.

That is a long time to go undetected for such a key article. Could a few more people put it on their watchlists? Or even improve it - it is in a very poor state. SpinningSpark 16:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I would like to volunteer to improve the audio electronics article. I'm pretty much a noob with the whole "editing Misplaced Pages" thing, but I spend a lot of time on here, and I actually have an assignment for a college course that requires me to make needed improvements to an article. I wouldn't consider myself and "expert", but I think I am fairly knowledgeable on the subject, as it is closely related to my field of study (electrical engineering) and hobbies I pursue as well. I already have a better definition worked out and was planning on adding some more detail to the subject as a whole. I just wanted to see if that was alright with people involved in the electronics Wikiproject if I took a shot at this. Also, I'm not entirely sure if I am posting this in the right place, so I will also put this in the talk page of the actual article as well. Cp99-NJITWILL (talk) 20:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

You don't need anyone's permission, just get stuck in. Welcome to Misplaced Pages! Other editors can change things they don't like. When you have it in a decent state, you can ask someone else to review it. If you can expand it five times in less than five days from your first edit to the article then you can submit it to DYK and get it mentioned on the front page. You can also submit it to WP:GAN and get it recognised as a Good Article. SpinningSpark 22:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I'll give it a shot then. --Cp99-NJITWILL (talk) 14:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

New article and category - Electronics industry

See Electronics industry and Category:Electronics industry. Could do with some work. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Film capacitor, need of help

Hi, in the English Misplaced Pages I had missed an article about “Film capacitors”. This very important electronic components is it worth to describe, see User:Elcap/Film capacitor. Because I was the main author for the German article I tried it with a translation from the German Misplaced Pages article (]). During translation I found a lot of new links and new informations so that the new written English version is not a one by one translation. But; the translator, Elcap, a little bit older expert of capacitors is not an expert of the English language, so I am asking for help in grammar, wordings and so on. Editors may wish to consult the parallel German article to clear up any remaining points of confusion, or to import more-recent improvements from there. If anyone can help i would be very glad. --Elcap (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Electrical Engineering

FYI, there's a new wikiproject proposal, see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Electrical Engineering

70.24.248.211 (talk) 08:57, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Started as WP:WikiProject Electrical engineering -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 07:13, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Inverter versus NOT gate?

It looks like the article Inverter (logic gate) might be moved to NOT gate by some people who were pissed off about moving Inverter (electrical) to Power inverter instead of making it a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. If you care one way or the other, comment at Talk:Inverter (logic gate)#Requested move. Dicklyon (talk) 17:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Positive feedback

I'm going to add the project template to Positive feedback. The discusstion there could benefit from more people who understand this stuff. Dicklyon (talk) 04:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of electronic memory types

We ought to have a comparison of electronic memory types article. 68.173.113.106 (talk) 19:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Common-mode-choke.png

file:Common-mode-choke.png is in cleanup categories for missing source and missing author information. I don't suppose someone knows, would they? -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 15:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Only the uploader can answer that - have you asked them? Anyway, it is easily replaceable, even if it has to be redrawn from scratch. I made a similar diagram (File:Phantom flux.svg) for phantom circuit. Will that do, what do you need it for? SpinningSpark 17:35, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The uploader hasn't edited since May, so I didn't ask yet, there's already a query on his talk page. I figured a quicker response might come from the project. As for what it might be used for, it's currently illustrating Choke (electronics) -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 06:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

AZUSA radar schematics

File:AZUSA-transponder.png and File:AZUSA-MarkII.png have been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 06:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Frances Hugle

There is a discussion and request for input regarding retaining or merging the above article at WP:PM. Input from this project is appreciated on the comment page. --  :- ) Don 21:27, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Flowing flow of charge

Hi. In the article Transistor the text talks about current as a thing that flows. (For example in the third sentence: "...changes the current flowing through another pair of terminals"). But this is incorrect off course. Electric current is moving/flowing charge. So the current itself can't really flow. I know this mistake is really common(It is included in books in electronics and physics), so I'm in doubt whether you people(the ones involved in maintaining and creating articles about electronics) would thing it's OK for me to "fix" these mistakes. For example, the quoted sentence would become "...changes the current through another pair of terminals". I can understand if people think it's better to just leave it as it is, to prevent confusion and/or inconsistency. -- defusix (talk) 11:35, 27 October 2012 (GMT+1)

Microhip and IC Category merge proposal at Commons

Hi there,

Apologies if this is slightly offtopic at Misplaced Pages, but I'd be grateful if some of you could contribute your thoughts to the proposed merge of the "Microchips" and "Integrated circuits" categories on the discussion at Wikimedia Commons]. Thank you. Ubcule (talk) 15:02, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Request for comments: Establish standards for version history tables in software articles

I'd like to introduce the Template:Version template to Misplaced Pages with the goal to establish one standard for version history tables (or lists). It simplifies creation of release histories, standardizes release stages and makes the content more accessible.

Please comment on the template talk page (there already is some discussion). Thanks for your participation --Jesus Presley (talk) 01:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Crystal oscillator

There's a page move proposal on Talk:Crystal oscillator that could benefit from some advice. The terms used in electronics for a piezoelectric resonator, "crystal" or "quartz crystal", have other meanings in general usage, so the Crystal oscillator page has become a "quartz crystal" page. However the term "crystal oscillator" refers to the circuit, not the resonator crystal itself. Should content on quartz and other electronic crystals be move to a new Piezoelectric resonator page? Anyone that wants to drop by and express an opinion is welcome. --Chetvorno 02:47, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Electronics terminology

Category:Electronics terminology has been nominated for deletion by merger into Category:Electronics -- 70.24.246.233 (talk) 06:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Amplifier organization

Is being discussed at Talk:Amplifier#Amplifier_topic_organization. -—Kvng 14:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

There is another proposal in there. Olli Niemitalo (talk) 11:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Integrated circuit inventor

A discussion is underway at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Patents as source for invention claims about whether patents are suitable reliable sources to support claims that a particular person invented the process used to fabricate integrated circuits. Jc3s5h (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Development of Electric double-layer capacitor to Supercapacitor

After more than half a year composing for a new edition of the article Electric double-layer capacitor I am now close for inserting my draft into the Wiki, please see User:Elcap/Supercapacitor. But I have a problem. Writing the new text for the article I found out, that the existing article (without the introduction) is an accumulation of single arguments without reasonable context. (The introduction I insert some moth ago). And I found out, that a real double-layer capacitor doesn’t exist.

Electric double-layer capacitors (EDLCs), invented 1957, have seen a dramatic change in understanding of their capacitive charge storage from a pure physical function between Helmholtz double-layers to an additional pseudocapacitive chemical charge storage with redox reactions, electrosorption and intercalation processes. This change of understanding has lead to a split of the electrochemical capacitors into three families:

• Double-layer capacitors – with carbon electrodes or derivates with much higher static double-layer capacitance than the faradaic pseudocapacitance
• Pseudocapacitors – with electrodes out of metal oxides or conducting polymers with a high amount of faradaic pseudocapacitance
• Hybrid capacitors – capacitors with special electrodes that exhibit both significant double-layer capacitance and pseudocapacitance, such as lithium-ion capacitors

But in no case double-layer and pseudocapacitance exist alone, even the older double-layer capacitors do have a little amount of pseudocapacitance. And the pseudocapacitors and hybrid capacitors do have a lot of double-layer capacitance. So it is nearly impossible to write three single articles to describe the new developments. This leads to the question how to name this very special capacitors.

Generally in science publications all the different developments of the last years are united under the term “electrochemical capacitors”. But if a development gets a discrete component, the names are manifold. Supercap, Ultracap, Goldcap, Greencap, a lot of manufacturer related names exist.

A look through the science literature shows, that roughly 70 to 80 % of the authors uses the term “Supercapacitor” (see: A Bibliometric Analysis of the International Literature in Supercapacitors, Francesco Lufrano* and Pietro Staiti, Int. J. Electrochem. Sci., 4 (2009) 173 – 186 PDF)

A google research gives 730,000 results for Supercapacitor, for Ultracapacitor only 363,000 (Date: 2013-05-07)

As of 2013 the term supercapacitor has prevailed as the alternative term instead of EDLC or ultracapacitor. One of the reason is surely the respect for B. E. Conway who coined the term supercapacitor. The term “ultracapacitor” also often to be found is used like a trade name for the capacitors from Maxwell, the market leader, and that seems for me like advertising.

By the way, most of the European countries are using the translated version of the term Supercapacitor.

So I am asking the Wikis how it can go on? I propose to insert my draft under “Electric double-layer capacitor”, and than move the article to the term “Supercapacitor”. Can I count with support? --Elcap (talk) 14:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

8031/8051: 1-bit architecture?

Could someone take a look at this edit in particular and perhaps the recent changes by the same editor to List of Intel microprocessors, 1-bit architecture and Intel MCS-51 in general? It looks to me like he is confusing the bit addressing instructions ("Boolean processor") here with the actual 8051 architecture, which is of course 8-bit. Before I respond to this, I would like a second opinion. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree. n-bit architecture refers to the size of the data path and the size of the data path for the MCS-51 is definitely 8 bits. Being able to set, reset and test bits in a byte are computations that have nothing to do with the size of the data bus. But beyond my own understanding, a search for 'mcs-51 "1-bit architecture"' on Google nets 6 results, of which 2 are WP pages and the other 4 are not relevant. I know of no evidence that Intel or anybody else has declared the 8051 a 1-bit architecture. This looks like (mistaken) OR. --Mark viking (talk) 21:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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