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Menstruation article

What is your take on this edit (which I tweaked soon after) changing the wording to "many older sources"? It's not just "many older sources" stating that; the sources for that part of line aren't too old (one's from 2004; the other is a health website that, among older references, cites a 2001 reference and a 2004 reference; though the latter 2004 reference likely doesn't mention anything about investigating premature or delayed menarche), and the source used to contrast that part of the line (from 2006) isn't that much newer (than the 2004 references at least). I've tweaked the editor's changes to that line in a different way before as well, by keeping what the editor removed while contrasting it to what the editor added. Flyer22 (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry Flyer22, but I don't know the first thing about menstruation and I do not know if the text about newer sources indeed reflects updated knowledge or not. However, not knowing this, and seeing that Hillarpa doesn't provide sources that makes this clear, I would say the more neutral "some sources - other sources" should be used. Just my two cents... Lova Falk talk 08:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, Lova Falk.

By the way, as I watch your talk page, and would check back even if I didn't, you don't have to leave me a "talk back" message on my talk page. I can't remember at the moment if I relayed that to you before, but, yeah, you're free from having to notify me of any reply you make to me on your talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 08:40, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Curing phobia with hypnosis

Thank you so much for finding the hypnotherapy source. I was having trouble finding another one. Thanks for the help, now with this source my section would turn out great! -Wendy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmiguel08 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not aware of finding any source, but anyway, if I was of some help, you're welcome! Lova Falk talk 09:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Clarification of your talk back :)

Good morning, Lova Falk!

I guess I should clarify that I didn't intend to use just "my own words" to re-do the Traffic Psychology article in my sandbox2. The original article is taken completely from here: http://vplno1.vkw.tu-dresden.de/psycho/download/ttp3_0.pdf

I did not want to edit a plagiarized article, so I thought wiping the slate clean (just for my sandbox and grade) would be best for now. I sent my sandbox 2 link to the group that is working on the same article to get their input. I also spoke with my professor who told me to go ahead with what I am doing since I have been working with the article for weeks now.

I intend to use the article linked above, but not verbatim. Any more input?

Thanks!S. Henry (talk) 14:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Stephanie! I will copy this text to the talk page of Traffic psychology, so we don't get discussions about the same article all over the place. Lova Falk talk 17:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks and question about catastrophic schizophrenia article

Hi Lova, thanks so much for all the assistance you gave my students in our class project. I was wondering about your thoughts on the current quality of Catastrophic Schizophrenia after Ashley Suk's edits to it. It's definitely not Stub-class anymore, nor Start-class, but I don't want to overstep my social psychology background by putting it in C, B, or A. Do you think it's worth nominating for Good Article status, even? I posted on the Talk:Catastrophic schizophrenia page too - would be fine to continue the conversation there. ScottPKingPhD (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

As suggested, I answered you on the Talk:Catastrophic schizophrenia page. Kind regards! Lova Falk talk 18:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Environmental Enrichment

I find it a problem that throughout the entire environmental enrichment article, there is never a clear definition of the concept. The most it says in the way of a definition is that it "concerns how the brain is affected by the stimulation of its information processing..." Our brains process information constantly, but obviously that is not what is meant by "environmental enrichment." How can we fix this problem in a way that fits the topic of "neural" environmental enrichment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlyoung34 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mlyoung34! Did you see Behavioral enrichment? That article starts with a definition of environmental enrichment. Maybe you can integrate the definition from that article into the lead of Environmental enrichment (neural)? Lova Falk talk 07:12, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Keep up the good work!! Gwhodge (talk) 16:32, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Ohhh thank you so much! Lova Falk talk 17:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Shyness

I am modifying the article on Shyness and you mentioned two primary sources. I could not find any secondary sources related to these, should I rewrite the sections? Thank you Csing (talk) 18:54, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

No, if no reviews can be found, there is nothing you can do about it, it is fine to have them. However, in the introduction of the primary sources, do the authors mention that there is a lack of cross cultural studies? Such remarks are qualitatively comparable to secondary sources, because they are from scientists who make a reviewing remark about other studies. So, in case there is such a remark, could you add a sentence about it in the beginning of the section? Such a sentence would also implicitly explain your use of primary sources. Kind regards! Lova Falk talk 19:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I found a secondary source that mentions the study I used and modified my edits based on it. Apparently I was typing in the wrong words when searching for reviews of the study. I am sorry for pestering you. Thank you again Csing (talk) 21:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Great that you found a review! The word pestering is all wrong though. I am happy with you communicating! Lova Falk talk 08:44, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello hello!

I feel as though I've done the Wiki version of seeing you in passing a few times, so I thought I'd drop by and say hi. How are things? Also, it goes without saying, but thank you as always for all the work you do around here. Much appreciated! Firecatalta (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Firecatalta (talk) 06:18, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Feeling my way around

Thanks for letting me know you reverted my editing on communication and why. As you've probably guessed I am new to this and still finding my way. I have reread the MOSINTRO link and understand what is supposed to happen there. But I am unsure how to proceed. Can I please clarify something with you first? Are you objecting to my use of academic words or to the thrust of the changes? I am slowly trying to resolve contradictions between various communication-related entries in as neutral a way as possible and hoped my first edit would at least set the limits for that take on communication. Can we resolve this between us for now? or is best to take it the talk page for communication? Many thanks Penperson (talk) 02:58, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Could you hold back on feedback for a week or so?

Hi Lova Falk! Thanks for the help you are offering numerous of my students! Heads up that we are at a critical time when students will be doing some peer-reviewing of each other's work. If you could hold off on your comments until that is done (reviews are due by 3/29), we would all greatly appreciate it. Be assured that your feedback is valued, but the students need some time and space to work with each other. I'm sure you remember how hard it is for many students to enter a conversation when an expert they do not know well is part of the space. Again, we value your feedback but right now it is stressing the students out to the point of being counter-productive. Thank you! CogPsyProf (talk) 21:53, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Students everywhere on Misplaced Pages

I know that you're on a Wikibreak, but I've never seen such an influx of students editing Misplaced Pages. I'm seeing them at sexual topics, different kinds of social topics such as the Youth article, medical topics, but especially at psychology topics, or articles heavily relating to any of these topics, and it's a bit tiresome correcting their edits or reverting them because of whatever valid reason. I'm sure that you are dealing with this as well. I've seen you recently revert an editor at one article who I'm sure is a student who was assigned a Misplaced Pages editing task. I'm not even sure that that's Nancydarling's class currently editing the Adolescence article. Sometimes, seeing Misplaced Pages used as a class project is not a good thing, which we've both expressed before. Other Misplaced Pages editors have stated the same thing. Flyer22 (talk) 04:08, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

One of the main reasons of my wikibreak is that I felt overwhelmed with the amount of job just to work through my watchlist. I felt as if all I did was clean up other editor's mess: copyedit text so it fits in with the rest of the text, fixing references, writing messages to student editors. So I decided to take a break and give myself some time to figure out how I want to continue participate in Misplaced Pages. Lova Falk talk 08:23, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Very understandable break. I wish you all the best in enjoying it. It seems that, since this aspect of Misplaced Pages (the students) has already been talked about for years by others without a development of a better way of interacting with students, all we can do on this matter is continue to clean up after them and/or guide them...or not. Flyer22 (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I heard about your taking a break, and I wanted to stop by to give you my best wishes for whenever you look back here again. It saddens me that any good editor like you would find editing less enjoyable as a result of student projects. You might want to consider that no editor here has to be an unpaid teaching assistant, and most certainly not if it comes at the expense of burnout. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Enjoy your break. Misplaced Pages is supposed to be only fun and if it ever is not fun, then something is going wrong. I regret that the education program participants often create messes and I am not sure how to deal with it at this time. I will share what you said with other participants. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Your grief is almost entirely down to one class. See Misplaced Pages:Education noticeboard#Big problems with neuroscience articles. We are working to get this class to stop. I can fully appreciate the need for a break and that is very healthy. Colin° 23:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Hope to see you back editing soon. I to have no idea what to do about these issues. While a few classes have had hugely positive effects others simply create content needing to be cleaned up afterwards and make editing less enjoyable for those who stick around. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, Tryptofish has helped by altering WP:NOTTA as a response to this discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 22:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you all! I'm trying to find my way back to joyful editing, and it feels like groping in the dark. I think that one part of my problem was this sentence from WP:NOTTA: "student editors should be treated in the same way any new editor is treated". Now I would very much like to see more good editors who edit psychology pages, and when I spot a promising new editor, I try to encourage them best I can. And I have done the same with the students. Welcome templates, welcoming them on talk pages of articles, etc. A lot of efforts when most of them disappear as soon as they have got their grades. And I don't blame them, but ´for my own good I should be more reserved next time. Lova Falk talk 08:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back, Lova Falk, whether back full-time or just the right amount of time that will allow you to function properly here. And, yes, I fully understand what you mean again. Flyer22 (talk) 10:13, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes welcome back. These are issues we all struggle with. A group of us a trying to figure out what to do about it and we all agree that what has happened cannot happen again per Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:11, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I decided to check back here to see where things stand, and I am so very, very happy to see you back. Warmest welcomes! I'm grateful to Flyer22 for pointing out the edit I made, but I also feel some responsibility for where Lova quoted something that I think I might have first written on the same information page: that student editors should be treated like any other editor. Although I think that it's factually true, even undeniable, I realize now that just about anything can be understood more than one way. My intention was to emphasize that student editors aren't entitled to be handled with a special set of kid gloves not used for any other editors. If they write something that should be reverted, revert it. What I'm trying very hard to get established as a behavioral consensus is that we should always, first, make a constructive, non-WP:BITEy, attempt to tell students what they need to fix, but having done that – once! – it's done. Sometimes students don't listen, and sometimes they collect their grade, leave, and don't look back. It's not established editors' fault if the students don't clean up after themselves, and editors should never feel bad about it. There's never an obligation to keep repeating helpful advice in the face of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. And if anyone doesn't have time to fix up a page, either revert it or tag it for someone else to fix (sooner or later someone else will!), and walk away. I'm going to go back to WP:NOTTA, and see if I can clarify these things. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:15, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you all for this welcoming back. It is very, very much appreciated. I still don't know really how to handle my editing of Misplaced Pages, but I do want to be here. And Tryptofish, I have always experienced you as supportive, so don't blame yourself. Lova Falk talk 19:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I've made a further revision at WP:NOTTA, and you might find it of interest. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:39, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The student problem, specifically regarding psychology articles in this case, was mentioned in the news yesterday. Flyer22 (talk) 23:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant picture at top of that article! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:25, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Actually quite funny in retrospect. And what the article doesn't say is that apart from the 1900 students came on top of the regular student projects that kept us very busy... Lova Falk talk 07:37, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

LOL (though this is a serious matter, taking some time to discuss it in a lighthearted way can help some editors better deal with it). The issue has been acknowledged elsewhere in the news, and that it's been mentioned in the news has been discussed elsewhere on Misplaced Pages. I was simply late to all of that. Flyer22 (talk) 17:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Feedback on Cognitive psychology page modification

Hello Lova, I wanted to stop by and thank you for your input on my work with the Cognitive psychology page. I will definitely make the additions/modifications you have spoken of. I am going to be uploading my current changes today, but will be continuing my work on this article for the remainder of this semester. Please continue to provide feedback as you see necessary and I will be happy to work toward getting those changes instituted. I hope you have been able to/continue to find the relief you need to be able resume your work within the Misplaced Pages community. It appears that you are a vital part of the community and it would be a substantial loss if we were to lose you. Thanks again! Snagglepuss24 (talk) 15:25, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Smallman12q (talk) 02:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Keep up the good works

I noticed that you (and some more editors) are having a rough time with the "educational edits". Go on, keep up the good works! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:58, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

By the way, next time if I can help, please let me know. It's not clear to me where the problems were. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Joshua, and I will. It was no particular problem that made me leave - I was overwhelmed and stressed out by the sheer amount of work that needed to be done every day. At this point, I am very happy checking a watchlist that is two weeks old. Lova Falk talk 07:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

hello lovely

Could you review my new article? Wrote a list of plain English words and phrases. Thank you! xoxo Fluous (talk) 17:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I'm not a native English speaker and more interested in psychology than in linguistics. So no! Lova Falk talk 09:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Jacobisq

User:Jacobisq is just back from his long winter wikibreak. Worth keeping an eye on IMO as he does some great stuff. User_talk:Jacobisq#Winter_break_2--Penbat (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your excellent work on psychology related articles. This is one of the most difficult subjects to work one thus my extra appreciation. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Lova Falk talk 08:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Article name change

Hey Lova Falk... Thanks for editing the "Catastrophic schizophrenia" article...

You mentioned that the term "Catastrophic schizophrenia" has fallen out of use...

Do you think we should move and change the article title to "Schizocaria"?

Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pro translator (talk • contribs) 17:55, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I have no opinion on this. The thing to do now is to ask your question on the talk page of Catastrophic schizophrenia and invite other editors to give their advice. With friendly regards

A kitten for you!

For your work on the psyc articles, in the face of all those students.

Stuartyeates (talk) 08:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, it would be wonderful to have a little kitten in my life just now. Lova Falk talk 08:49, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Another thanks from me, too! I was browsing some of the students' psychology articles and saw a lot of great feedback from you on the talk pages.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 13:53, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, I am happy to read this. Lova Falk talk 16:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

For your efforts at Dual diagnosis. Keep up the good work! Faizan(talk) 13:32, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Heartwarming. Lova Falk talk 13:35, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

:D, Faizan(talk) 15:16, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Dysprosody Edit

Hi Lova, Just saw your message about my edit to the Dysprosody page. I assure you that I only looked at that one journal article before making my edit, and did not copy and paste. So I had no knowledge of the link you sent me. Do you mind sending me the parts that are identical? Now I am curious. Thanks for the concern.

Kak2fp (talk) 12:46, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I messed up! I think. Let me check once more. Yes I did. I apologize! It was not your text that was the same as the text on the site that I found - and most probably, the text of that site was copied from us and not the other way around. Lova Falk talk 13:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Star767

Regarding this, did you see afterward that Star767 is blocked indefinitely? The block has also been mentioned on my talk. Flyer22 (talk) 14:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Flyer22, I didn't know about the indefinitely-part but I did find out that s/he was blocked. Take a look at this. Oh well. I moved on and edited the added text of a student who did a great job. Nice for a change! Lova Falk talk 14:59, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. And, yes, that student editor did a significantly better job than most students editors. I also, of course, appreciate that you were there to tweak that editor's text. Something that I note about the article is that the Major research areas and Influential cognitive psychologists sections that already existed there are like See also sections before the See also section. Flyer22 (talk) 16:07, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

You are right, and some of the influential cognitive psychologists are already mentioned and wikilinked previously in the article. However, it doesn't bother me and I let it be. I'm working hard on becoming a Wikisloth. Lova Falk talk 16:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

LOL, I would need to work very hard, like find some very strong willpower, to be a Wikisloth. Flyer22 (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Or rather work significantly less so that I can become one. Flyer22 (talk) 16:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Abbie.dodz at the Anorgasmia article

Regarding this, I left an edit summary note for you about it. I'm not sure if you are watching that article, so I decided to drop by your talk page to let you know about the note. Flyer22 (talk) 12:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I do watch this article, however, I have a two week lag, so without your message I would have seen your note until two weeks from now. I'll check things out to see if I'll change my edit. Lova Falk talk 14:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

As always, you're welcome. And a two-week lag? How does that happen? Flyer22 (talk) 16:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I answered you yesterday, but I must have forgotten to save it... Anyway, it all started with my two week wikibreak, and actually, I like it. Almost all vandalism has been taken care of, and if there is a doubtful edit by an unexperienced editor, I no longer feel bad when I remove it, because it's been alive for two whole weeks. Also, the day's list is much shorter, which gives me time to edit a couple of articles more thoroughly - which is more rewarding. Lova Falk talk 19:52, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I thought that the lag was due to your Internet connection. I was confused because I was wondering how you might see your user page pop on your watchlist in real-time, but not an article or rather not specific articles. But it sounds like it's about you playing catch-up with articles that you weren't watching for two weeks. Flyer22 (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, today I checked the latest changes of April the 4th. But I do peek on today's changes on my watchlist as well... Lova Falk talk 20:27, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Child abuse article

I could use your help at this article; see here. Flyer22 (talk) 19:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Flyer22 (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! However, now it's time to log off. Goodnight! Lova Falk talk 20:28, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Goodnight. Flyer22 (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

I'd assumed that primary sources were preferable, but now I am wiser. Shiningroad (talk) 00:33, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you too for your response! Convincing new editors to use secondary (or tertiary) sources can sometimes be quite a battle. Lova Falk talk 07:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Motivation article

I reverted your revert of Cluebot's deletion of what I considered an unhelpful contribution: . If you think that text improves the article please feel free to add it back. Cheers. Jojalozzo 16:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I don't know what I was thinking! I probably wasn't thinking. Lova Falk talk 18:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Borderline personality disorder

Even if the information is not "useful", if it's relevant and a real controversy, the material should be in the article. Bearian (talk) 13:16, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Bearian, I am surprised by your message. I put a large amount of material back IN to the article. I just removed a detail. Are you confused between my edits and Mandyxsmith's edit? Lova Falk talk 13:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps ... there have been a lot of edits this weekend. Thank you for your edits. Bearian (talk) 13:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Wernicke's aphasia

Am I incorrect in believing thast while Wernicke's aphasia patients have intact grammar they tend not to be able to produce meaningful language (lacking semantics and pragmatics) or understand others? The few Wernickes' patients I have met spoke grammatically correctly but used apparently random lexical material so that their sentences made no sense. In contrast to the Broca's patients I've met who can choose meaningful words but are unable to produce grammatically correct sentences. As the article is now it seems to say that Wernickes aphasia makes it possible to speak clearly and intelligible but without being able to understand what others say. I have never heard of such symptoms. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 13:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, in theory, receptive aphasia is that the problem is with understanding, whereas expressive aphasia is a problem with expression. But I agree with you that in reality this is rarely (or ever) the case. I was too quick in reverting you, I apologize and I'll revert my edit back, but change the sentence. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 13:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps the problem is that Wernickes aphasia and receptive aphasia is not the exact same thing, but is currently covered in the same article?·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 13:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

As far as I know, Wernickes aphasia is the older term for receptive aphasia that is less often used nowadays, plus that the term receptive is a bit misleading, because as you pointed out, there are also expressive difficulties. Lova Falk talk 14:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

--> Discussion continues on Talk:Receptive aphasia

Thank you

Hello Lova and thank you for your respond and comments! I do work with a class project. The information is from textbook and the proper refrences are provided. Thanks again for the additional information you provided me with! Aaleksanian (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! Lova Falk talk 15:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Lova Falk! First of all, I would like to thank you for all of your wonderful feedback and encouragement on my recent edits to the article on emotionality. I have really appreciated your support and it made my day when I saw that my article was "not a stub anymore" thanks to my hard work! My only question for you is regarding the section of "Examples of emotionality." You posted that the section needs references, but I used common knowledge and past experiences to provide this information, so I did not feel this section needed sources. I spoke to my professor about this and she agreed with me. I am curious to know what kind of references you are looking for, so that I can try to find them. I searched for quite a while today but did not have any luck finding references basic enough for this type of information (with the exception of textbooks, as you have advised not to use). Most studies were regarding physiological distress during complex situations or illnesses, etc., but not to describe basic emotions. If you have any suggestions on where to find these references, I would really appreciate your help. Thank you again for all of your feedback and support! Laurenrampey (talk) 22:45, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lauren, good argument, I removed the tag. I have another comment though, but I'll write it on the article's talk page. Lova Falk talk 07:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Sexual attraction article

Letting you know that I reverted this. Likely a student editor. If you see anything in that revert that you think should definitely be in that article or should definitely be excluded, I would like to know your thoughts about it. Flyer22 (talk) 19:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Flyer! There might be content that should be in this article, but I don't have the time nor the energy to start editing this wall of text... Lova Falk talk 20:13, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the reply; I somehow missed it on my watchlist. I'll probably restore some of this editor's text at a later date (but in a tweaked fashion). Flyer22 (talk) 21:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Test anxiety

At this same moment I was thinking in eliminating the category learning section, when suddenly it was gone... You have done a great job in the article. Bests. --Garrondo (talk) 16:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

How about moving section "cognitive interventions" to the treatment section? Does not make much sense to have 2 separate sections on treatment (and a subsection on management)... I do not do it myself since you seem in a wiki-rage, and we will probable get editions conflicts. Moreover, you seem to have really "grasped" the article by now, while I have only take a few edits at it. Bests.--Garrondo (talk) 16:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Finally did it myself along other changes.--Garrondo (talk) 16:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Garrondo and I am very happy that you made the changes. However, I doubt if "attentional cognitive bias modification" really is notable enough to get its own article, but I leave that question to you. Lova Falk talk 16:45, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You are the expert regarding cognitive-behavioral therapy, so feel free to do as you feel best.--Garrondo (talk) 18:57, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Well thank you for calling me an expert! I'll remove the wikilink then. Lova Falk talk 19:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey. It seems there has been some rough movements in this talk page in the last few days. I hope everything is solved now. I have just seen your comment regarding your lack of access to some sources. My institution has access to many journals (although I know it does not have access to APA journals for example), so if you need an specific source you can send me an email and I will try to get it. Bests.--Garrondo (talk) 10:42, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

That is very kind of you, and you'll probably get an email one day. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 10:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

people first language

How about using people-first language (a child with autism, etc., rather than an autistic child). Indeed, "it reveals the prejudices of a narrow-minded" to restrict the identity of a person and then to plead ignorance in the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.190.80.40 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 1 May 2013‎

I do not appreciate you insinuating that I am prejudiced or narrow minded. If you would like to point out something, you can do so politely. And please refrain from messing up another section by putting your comment in the middle of it. Lova Falk talk 19:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:TPS It took a while to understand this thread diff diff. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:23, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

No one is insinuating anything about you; it might be better to view the comment more constructively. Did you forget that a gross generalization was made about the narrow mindedness of society. This type of statement is insinuating that the populous is narrow minded. And, that populous is composed of individuals, which supports my original point. If you are going to put yourself out there by making edits, revisions, and comments to Misplaced Pages (created for all people); it might be best to remain objective and knowledgeable, otherwise leave the change to someone else.

I've viewed many of your editing comments and you often attack the editing attempts of individuals or the work they cite. Please stay objective when making comments, revisions, or edits. If you are unsure then don't make the change -- take time to research the problem. If you do make the change, then it is unnecessary to make comments that are unconstructive and lack objectivity. Simply state your change and move-on... If you dish it out then please be willing to take it; this was never about you. Please smile and be happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.190.80.40 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 2 May 2013‎

Thank you for your feedback on my edit summaries. Lova Falk talk 14:35, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Servais

Lova, as in ? Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and Joshua, as in ]. Lova Falk talk 11:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

No, that one is new to me. "Jos" was a nickname at school. Thanks for the link! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Freudian slip

Hi there. I noticed you put the 'alternative explanations' section back and was wondering why. I was making the first paragraph of the section consistent with this later: 'In general use, the term 'Freudian slip' has been debased to refer to any accidental slips of the tongue.' This tends to be a problem with Wiki articles dealing with Freudian/psychoanalytic concepts in general, since there is so much misinformation. Perhaps you have a different view? --Quadalpha (talk) 18:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Quadalpha, thank you for asking! I put the title 'alternative explanations' back, because I thought that in an article on Freudian slip, a section titled "a slip of the tongue" doesn't give any information about the section. As it is now, first there is the History part, about Freud, and then the Alternative explanation part, about other ways to interprete a slip of the tongue. For me that makes sense. If there would be a History section followed by a section called slip of the tongue, the reader wouldn't know what to expect in that section. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 19:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Perhaps we need another solution, since right now, it looks like the 'alternative explanations' are for Freudian slips specifically, but really the alternative explanations are for slips of the tongue. This distinction is important because I'm trying to clear up actual Freudian/psychoanalytic theory from 'what people think Freudian theory is' whenever I come across it. Perhaps we can put in a related link to speech error, and instead of 'alternative explanations', have a section on generic/imprecise uses of the term 'Freudian slip'? --Quadalpha (talk) 19:53, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifications box replacement prototypes released

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Message

Left you a message on the talk page, please do not change things without discussing it. Rather than a contributor, you are becoming a dictator — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.190.83.40 (talk) 15:15, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Sigh.

I leave the BPD page alone for ~1 week, and when I come back there is an edit that BPD is associated with familicide, based on an article in a 10 year old journal that cites a study with N=16 non-randomly selected individuals with no control group. *facepalm*

How are things? Hope you're doing well! Firecatalta (talk) 20:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Sigh! and hi! Luckily it's easy to undo. Things are fine, we are in Marrakech, and after a couple of very intensive days, we have had a lazy day at "home". And I *do* like to edit Misplaced Pages, so here I am again ... Lova Falk talk 21:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm so glad you're having a great trip! I'm also glad you're around wikipedia, but sorry to have interrupted your vacation with grumbling about silly edits. Enjoy the day at "home," and I hope the rest of your journey there continues to be wonderful. You deserve it!!  :-) Firecatalta (talk) 21:46, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you and don't be sorry, I was happy to see a message from you. ♥ Lova Falk talk 21:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Pleasant dreams and happy journeying tomorrow! Firecatalta (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Great place for vacations. As a hint: if its the first time you go there, and they offer you a trip to some waterfalls in a nearby village do not go (I do not remember the name), they are quite crappy and only meant to get the money out of the tourists IMO. Have the rebuitl the caffe in the main plaza that was bombed two years ago? It was a great place...--Garrondo (talk) 06:33, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Garrondo, we actually did consider such a trip but we'll think twice. And there are no ruins left on the plaza, but next time I'm there, I'll have a look if there is an Argana caffe, or something else. Lova Falk talk 16:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Garrondo, now I have looked everywhere, but I cannot find any Argana caffe. It must have been rebuilt in another name. And we're not going on the trip, thanks to you. Lova Falk talk 21:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Its a pity... food was great. Not as cheap as everything else but still really cheap. Hope you end well your holidays.--Garrondo (talk) 07:51, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sexual assault article

Do you see anything valid about this removal? Flyer22 (talk) 21:14, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

No, quite incomprehensible. Maybe the editor thinks it is a primary source??? Anyway, it should be reverted... Lova Falk talk 21:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Because you also watch that article, I waited to see if you were going to revert that removal. Since that didn't happen, I decided to ask you about the removal. I have reverted it. I know that you've given this editor some advice, as seen on her talk page. She states on her user page that she's not very good at editing Wikis, so the "not very good" part seems to be the case with that removal. Even if a primary source, that wouldn't make the source invalid.

Oh, and I had signed for you above (Lova Falk (talk) 21:20, 18 May 201 (UTC) in this section, but there was a WP:Edit conflict just moments ago; I see that you signed, but with the latest time stamp. Flyer22 (talk) 21:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for trying to sign! Actually, sexual assault is one of the hundreds of pages I have removed from my watchlist, trying (but not succeeding) to get it below 3000 pages. Also, I am very much behind on my watchlist, yesterday I got finished with 1 May. So it is always better to ask me here (whether a page is on my watchlist or not) than to wait for me to revert... Lova Falk talk 09:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey I'm sorry, I think I might have accidentally deleted the wrong thing. There's a citation on the article that links to something unrelated to sexual assault. Shiningroad (talk) 18:43, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, Lova Falk. And okay, Shiningroad.

Speaking of telling the difference between primary sources and secondary sources, though, WP:MED is having a discussion about it: Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Medicine#Primary or secondary?. Flyer22 (talk) 19:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Flyer22! However, discussions will have to wait until my holiday is over. I still haven't even started on May 2nd yet... Lova Falk talk 21:19, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

No, no

I don't know anything about this message calling you a dictator, but I have a feeling that I might upset some people here and somebody might think it was a good idea to prove that I am a JERK. Hafspajen (talk) 10:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

added page number

Thanks for your advice and editing of my contributions. As you suggested I added page numbers to the book references according to the topic it referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dribrook (talk • contribs) 21:05, 20 May 2013‎

DSM-5

Dont know if it interests you or not but DSM-5 needs quite a lot of work to knock it into shape now it has been launched. --Penbat (talk) 21:52, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Penbat, I am very interested, but still on a holiday and with limited access to sources... Lova Falk talk 21:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Cool--Penbat (talk) 21:59, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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I see the article IQ reference chart has been tagged for expert review since October 2012. As part of a process of drafting a revision of that article in my user sandbox, I am contacting all Wikipedians who have edited that article since early 2009 for whom I can find a user talk page.

I have read all the diffs of all the edits committed to the article since the beginning of 2009 (since before I started editing Misplaced Pages). I see the great majority of edits over that span have been vandalism (often by I.P. editors, presumably teenagers, inserting the names of their classmates in charts of IQ classifications) and reversions of vandalism (sometimes automatically by ClueBot). Just a few editors have referred to and cited published reliable sources on the topic of IQ classification. It is dismaying to see that the number of reliable sources cited in the article has actually declined over the last few years. To help the process of finding reliable sources for articles on psychology and related topics, I have been compiling a source list on intelligence since I became a Wikipedian in 2010, and I invite you to make use of those sources as you revise articles on Misplaced Pages and to suggest further sources for the source on the talk pages of the source list and its subpages. Because the IQ reference chart article has been tagged as needing expert attention for more than half a year, I have opened discussion on the article's talk page about how to fix the article, and I welcome you to join the discussion. The draft I have in my user sandbox shows my current thinking about a reader-friendly, well sourced way to update and improve the article. I invite your comments and especially your suggestions of reliable sources as the updating process proceeds. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 20:29, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi WeijiBaikeBianji and thank you for your invitation. Great job! However, as I am 16 days behind on my watchlist, plus I have my own "to do"-list which contains about 40 wikipedia articles that need attention, I have to decline your invitation. Kind regards! Lova Falk talk 08:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Reply has occurred

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Grandiose delusions moved to Grandiose type

User:Farrajak has moved Grandiose delusions moved to Grandiose type. Do you have any views this ?--Penbat (talk) 07:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Penbat. I cannot find the discussion about this, and I asked Farrajak where it is. Lova Falk talk 08:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Cheers. There wasnt any discussion. I have reverted and tided up the talk page and given my views: Talk:Grandiose_delusions. I have had many issues with User:Farrajak - amongst other things he seems obsessed with tagging and is keen to down play narcissism as just something that appears in the DSM - see User:Farrajak and User talk:Farrajak.--Penbat (talk) 08:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I suspected there was no discussion... and I have seen your comments on Farrajak's talk page and I agree with your position. Lova Falk talk 09:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Confirmation bias

Hi Lova! Please see Talk:Confirmation_bias#.22Current_political_issues.22 Thanks and best wishes, MartinPoulter (talk) 15:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

subconscious motor tract

Thanks for reverting the edits made by me. I was planning to find and modify them anyway. As a matter of fact, subconscious motor tract had been created by me but it was nominated for deletion and deleted thereafter. You can find the references in the userified version on my talk page. Diptanshu 18:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

And thank you for thanking me! Lova Falk talk 18:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

While I was writing on your talk page, you were interestingly writing on mine. Thanks anyway. Diptanshu 18:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

We were on each other's minds! Lova Falk talk 18:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Automatic archival

Your talk page seemed to be too long. I took the liberty to set up automatic archival on your talk page and also set up a new archive. Hope that you do not mind. In case you do, you may feel free to revert the edits. Diptanshu 18:46, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

You may move the barnstars and other signs of appreciation to your userpage. Diptanshu 18:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Diptanshu! I am happy with the bot archiving after 90 days. But you archived way too much, so I reverted. Lova Falk talk 18:52, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Asexuality article

Hey, Lova Falk. I know that you are behind on your watchlist, but are you still watching the Asexuality article? Judging by this, this, and this, I don't trust that editor, Nathan Johnson, not to hold a grudge against me for this matter and resume fouling up the Asexuality article or possibly following me around to cause me trouble (despite having previously edited that article productively). With regard to that Asexuality diff-link (the first diff-link in this paragraph, an editor should not act like that (what he did) on Misplaced Pages. Ever. And his response with regard to being called out for vandalism about that Asexuality article edit is bizarre, most assuredly him and not some compromised account; it's a mock. The reason I'm asking if you still watch the Asexuality article is because I may need your help watching it. I would have emailed you about this, just like I've been in discussion with others via email about it, but you and I have not yet talked via email, I'm not sure that you want to start discussing things with me via email, and I don't care if Nathan Johnson sees this section or not. Flyer22 (talk) 16:56, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Flyer22! I am sorry, I am too busy with things outside of Misplaced Pages to get involved right now. Lova Falk talk 13:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, Lova Falk. I was more so asking for help in watching the article. I take it that you are no longer watching it? Either way, your answer is understandable, even if you simply didn't feel like watching yet another article. I know that you have a lot on your watchlist, and, like you stated, have recently removed a lot due to that. So have I (removed a lot months ago), though my watchlist is still in the 2000s. But at least I don't see most of those articles pop on it (most of them are apparently very inactive). Flyer22 (talk) 14:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes Flyer22, it's off my watchlist that is still not below 3000, but if I would have had the time, I would have looked into it anyway (because you asked me). Lova Falk talk 16:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

LOL, did you link my name so that I would get a notification that you replied? I'm still watching your talk page, so there's no need for that. But it does remind me how the new notification system can be useful. Flyer22 (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I have started to do so, but this is the first confirmation that it actually works. Lova Falk talk 16:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm curious: Had the new notification system worked for you in any other form yet, such as when someone reverts you? Flyer22 (talk) 18:44, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and I immediately turned it off in Preferences. It works much better for me to find out about a revert when it shows up on my watchlist fifteen days later, because by then I have forgotten the edit and don't get upset by the revert. If I find it out immediately I am still too involved in the article and the edits I made and can get angry. Lova Falk talk 20:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

That's a nice plan, which would work well for a lot of people. I've definitely been thinking that the new notification system, with regard to reverts, has made WP:Edit wars more prone to happen. Flyer22 (talk) 20:29, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I have thought exactly the same thing. Lova Falk talk 05:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys! Just passing through, so to speak, and wanted to say that I can add the Asexuality article to my watchlist if that would be helpful. I don't know enough about asexuality to make edits, but I do know vandalism and will keep an eye out. Hope you're both doing well! Firecatalta (talk) 18:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Firecatalta. Nice to meet you. Yes, your help watching the article, and/or offering whatever other help you can with it (such as weighing in on the talk page with regard to anything you think you can help with), would be greatly appreciated by me. Thank you. Flyer22 (talk) 18:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Nice to meet you too! My pleasure. Firecatalta (talk) 18:34, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Attachment theory article: addition

Hi Lova Falk,

I once tried to add information about Gordon Neufeld to your Attachment theory article and you said: 'Removed attachment researcher - in order to be in this section, there should be text on what contributions this researchers has made to the development of attachment theory)'

So I finally found the link with such a text: :

He also developed a comprehensive theory of attachment that includes six stages in the development of the capacity for relationship, the construct of polarization that explains both shyness and defensive detachment. His model of attachment is universal in both its application (adults as well as children) and implementation (school as well as home).

I don't want to bother you with deleting my stuff again ;) So I'm asking you to decide yourself whether this information and the person belongs to this article. Thanks in advance! Irenru (talk) 09:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Copypasted this text to Talk:Attachment theory. Lova Falk talk 08:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

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Rorschach Test

Hi Lova Falk. You may wish to add another contribution at the Talk Page where there is now a new RFC. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martinevans123! Thank you for asking me and for your mail. I have now left my comment. I'm afraid it's not what you hoped for, but it is as it is. With friendly regards! Lova Falk talk 08:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I am surprised. But I'm glad you have been able to express your view. I'm not sure if your and Garondo's comments will be counted as against or abstention. But thanks for not accusing me of having any "hidden agenda"! It's all a bit trivial, I guess. A clearer policy on MOS would be better, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martinevans123, I am neither for nor against and I don't accuse anybody of anything. I'm 25 days behind on my watchlist and my "to do list" has more than 50 articles that each will need at least half an hour of serious work. I just don't have the time! Lova Falk talk 08:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to ask at a bad time. The RfC wasn't my idea, haha! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Really funny! Lova Falk talk 09:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)