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Behaviour on this page: Arbitration case pages exist to assist the Arbitration Committee in arriving at a fair, well-informed decision. You are required to act with appropriate decorum during this case. While grievances must often be aired during a case, you are expected to air them without being rude or hostile, and to respond calmly to allegations against you. Accusations of misbehaviour posted in this case must be proven with clear evidence (and otherwise not made at all). Editors who conduct themselves inappropriately during a case may be sanctioned by an arbitrator or clerk, without further warning, by being banned from further participation in the case, or being blocked altogether. Personal attacks against other users, including arbitrators or clerks, will be met with sanctions. Behaviour during a case may also be considered by the committee in arriving at a final decision.

→ Important notes for all contributors to this case This case is contentious and has the ability to devolve very quickly. So, this is a heads-up on the procedures that have been adopted. First off, the clerks have been instructed to be very proactive in removing any inappropriate comments. These include: a. meta-discussions about policy b. any allegation unsupported by evidence and c. any allegation (whether supported or unsupported) against non-parties. Furthermore, the case will use a "single warning" system: clerks are authorised to issue an only warning to any editor who posts inappropriate comments; if the warning is not heeded, the editor may either be restricted from participating in this case or be blocked at the clerk's discretion. This applies to everyone, which includes the parties, involved onlookers, semi-involved onlookers, and people who wander in randomly (whether truly random or not). Finally, to prevent "drive-by" attacks and attempts to devolve this case, the case pages will be semi-protected and additional scrutiny will be paid to accounts that haven't participated in this dispute beforehand. If a new editor or an IP editor genuinely has something that needs to be said, they may ask a clerk to post it on their behalf. For the Committee, Salvio 09:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Requesting permission to exceed word/citation limit

I'm not a party to this case, but I've been compiling a large chunk of evidence based on my own observations. I don't think my section would fall within the remits outlined at the top of the page, so I'd like to ask for permission to provide an extended list of instances. Kurtis 21:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

If the evidence is IRC-related and includes logs, there's a standard (most of the time) around not posting logs on-wiki. Sorry if this comes off as an attempt to chill; I have no issue with you flinging them directly to arbcom privately, which is pretty common for evidence. There are parties in the wider world, however, who particularly enjoy eking out drama wherever they can, and I have no wish to see a good-faith attempt to provide clarity descend into 'list of things that malicious users can use to try and hurt people'.

(If it's not log-related, ignore the above ;p.) Ironholds (talk) 21:16, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it's related to Kiefer's participation at RfA, as well as his general demeanour. I'm mentioning them for contextual purposes. Kurtis 21:17, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

This case is about Ironholds and me. If you are concerned about RfA, you should try the usual mediation fora. You are aware that Newyorkbrad pronounced a ban on my replying to RfA discussions, which has been followed, I hope? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) gotcha. In that case, forward them privately to the arb- er. I mean, do what you will with them ;). Ironholds (talk) 21:29, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

• I went ahead and added the evidence that I've compiled. I think it's an important chunk of context. Kurtis 22:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Please, try first to shorten your evidence so that it complies with our word limit. If you cannot do so or, by doing so, you lose important details, then you'll be granted an exception. Salvio 09:02, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

    I'll use a similar extension to list discussions by WMF employee Okeyes (WMF) (talk · contribs) and WP administrator Ironholds (talk · contribs), e.g. advocacy of shooting Sharon Osbourne, Jennifer Aniston, the Popes (sequentially), in a log (Misplaced Pages-en.20090305) with links to concerning excerpts at Wikipediocracy,---the last link contains Keyes's discussion of killing a woman in a way that her cries for suffering are prolonged.

    The log has been blacklisted, so I cannot link it directly. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 10:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Case notice

Your threats of clerk blocks would have more credibility if your case clerk was actually able to issue blocks. Spartaz 03:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Even without the ability to block I can still prohibit someone from participating in the case, which has a similar outcome. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:36, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Plus there is more than one active clerk with admin rights at the moment, who I can ask to block someone. Or who can block someone on their own initiative. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:44, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Basically, what Callanecc said: when this case started, the other clerk was an admin; then again, all non-recused clerks can intervene in their capacity in a case and, since there are a couple of admins among them, Callanecc can ask one of them to push the buttons. Salvio 09:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)