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Climate data for Indian cities

For some time, the Meerut article had two tables for climate data. Then sometime ago one of them was removed because the reference url had changed (the site changed its url format) and the editor considered the url to be incorrect. Also, the climate data was changed per a new reference added by the user. (see ). I'm not saying it was vandalism or anything, but it brought up a question on what could/should be considered an RS for climate data for Indian cities.

Copy-pasting my comment from Talk:Meerut#Climate_data: It appears we have multiple sources for climate data with the sources providing different values for the avg monthly temperatures.

1. climate-data.org is currently in use
2. worldweatheronline.com has been previously used
3. rainfall data from India Meteorological Department for 2008-12 (archived at webcite). Wayback machine has an archive showing data for 2005-09.
4. temperature data from India meteorological department which was previously used (but is still listed as a source in the template). The link doesn't seem to work now and the wayback machine doesn't have it archived.

The question now is which of these data should be used? The data appears to differ by as much as 5 degree celsius in some cases. Any ideas/views for deciding are welcome.

Since the above problem probably applies to all Indian cities and not just Meerut, I thought there should probably be a consensus regarding this.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 20:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Climate data is one of the worst things for reliability. I've noticed this before when I stumble on something in a Misplaced Pages article which is absolutely clearly wrong, but can't replace with better data because the data source I want to replace it with is no more reliable in general than the one I want to remove. There's also the effect that while something may be obviously way off to someone who lives there, someone from another country might not even notice the error. e.g. if someone replaced the Death Valley climate data with temperatures about 20°F too high, a lot of people ,even Americans, wouldnt see anything obviously wrong because Death Valley is just "that place in the desert where it gets stupidly hot all the time" in their minds. Some of my experiences and opinions are listed at User:Soap/Climate data essay. The best advice I can come up with is to have no firm policy on which sites are more reliable than others, and just take each case on an individual basis, even if we end up using different sources for different cities. Generally if we can find a few sources that agree with each other it's better and more trustworthy to use those sources than to use an outlier that doesn't agree with any of them, but even then it's highly possible that the "majority" is still wrong. But verifiability is the standard we should follow, and if we're unsure about the truthfulness of a source, it is OK to just say "according to WXMeteo" etc. so that readers don't come away with misinformed ideas. —Soap— 21:12, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

First, the diff link (which I forgot to place above) is .

Second, I agree that we can't know which websites are more reliable than others, but in the end they're taking their data from somewhere, and as far as I know, the only people in India who do collect climate data are the India Meteorological Department people. (I'm not aware of anyone else running stations for collecting data.) So, in my opinion, we should consider the people actually collecting the data most reliable, which in case of India is the IMD. Unfortunately data from the IMD isn't availaible easily for most cities (as can be seen by the broken url above). The question then would be what to do when such url breaking happens (assuming we can't find an archived page anywhere)? Do we keep the data or do we replace it? And if we do replace it, shouldn't we choose the source which conforms most closely to the IMD?--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 22:20, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

For Indian geographical entities, IMD data is not reliable, when available. There are some instances when Hongkong Obserrvatory Data were used. I am not sure about the archiving. Often, the URL loss of such government sites are due to th exact that they changed the URL, and the data should be available in some new URL.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

IMD data not reliable for Indian geographic entities?!? Seems a bit odd to me. Could you point to specific instances (or previous discussions) where this was found. Also, I don't understand how anyone else (the Hongkong observatory, for instance) have independent climate data for Indian geographical entities. Wouldn't there need to be ground stations collecting temperature, rain data etc at the location concerned? I haven't heard of anyone other than the IMD having ground stations in India.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 11:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

@Dwaipayan: see above.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 11:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

oooops, that was a fatal typo! I dont know what I was thinking when I typed that. IMD data needs to be used for Indian geographic entities, if available.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:12, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

@Dwaipayan:: Right. So why don't we have this as a project guideline anywhere? I'd like this to be a guideline. If this is not the right place for such a proposal, please tell me where the proposal may be made.

Also pinging @Titodutta: and @SpacemanSpiff: who seem to be active. More views on the formulation of a guideline are welcome.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 07:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not really familiar with climate data sources. Isn't there a Central govt database for this? I know that for Chennai the Met dept has longstanding data for recordings at Meenambakkam and Nungambakkam. I'll try to find out if they are online. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:07, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

IMD (see data store link) has rainfall data from 1901 and temperature from 1969 available by district. However the report costs some money, I think there's somewhere on wiki where you can post requests for resources; worth a try IMO. @Dwai, @Siddhartha Ghai. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

This PDF file from IMD has minimum, maximum temp and rainfall data for many cities, averaged from 1901 to 2000. This was used for the article . Yes, this data should take precedence over other sources. @SpacemanSpiff:, @Siddhartha Ghai:. Added that in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Indian cities. However, this may need to be added at some more visible page.--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

@Dwaipayanc::Thanks for the addition. And I've seen that file, it doesn't contain Meerut.

Now what to do about the problem specific to Meerut article? The IMD data for Meerut was earlier availaible at on mausam.gov.in, but that link is now broken (site seems to be down), and not archived in Wayback either.

Is there any policy about what to do if a source link is broken? Can the information be kept, or does it have to be deleted?--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 00:58, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Transl

Template:Transl has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.

Template:Transl is up for deletion. Pages like this, which use the International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration (IAST) (or other systems), may suffer. Future edits may be tedious as a lot of Sanskrit texts are solely available in IAST format and not in the original script. Join the discussion and voice your opinions.

Kenfyre (talk) 10:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste @Kenfyre: and welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard. Thanks for notifying us about the discussion. But, generally, these are included at WP:DSI. Let us know if you have any question. Tito☸Dutta 13:35, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Jai Shri Shani Dev Satrod Dham Hisar

Hello India experts: I am not sure whether this is an Indian topic or not, because I can't figure out which parts are the place names. Have I given this submission the right title? Is this a subject worth improving? If so, it seems as though the submitter will need a lot of help. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

It's just another local temple to Shani in Hisar (district). Don't think there's anything much about it anywhere. —SpacemanSpiff 16:13, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Use of Indic-text in lead/infobox

I was not following Misplaced Pages regularly for last 2-3 months. In the meanwhile, I have observed that Indic-name has been added in a large number of India-related articles. Is there a change in the consensus? Kindly let me know the latest consensus on this issue. Amartyabag 07:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

The official consensus is still the old one (which cannot be really summarized) that said no to indic scripts. But there have been numerous discussions over here over the year or so which have been slammed showing the old consensus. And the fact remains that indic scripts are vastly used and are still being introduced and that this topic is the most revisited one on this noticeboard. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:46, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:INDICSCRIPT is the last consensus on this. —SpacemanSpiff 09:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

How to spell "Nachuk Tahate Shyama"

Tito Dutta wanted me to write "Nachuk Tahate Shyama" but I'm having trouble finding reliable sources. Is there an alternate spelling? Does anyone have access to academic databases? WhisperToMe (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

U mean spell in bengali? Will "নাচুক তাহাতে শ্যামা" do ? --Vigyani_talk 03:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

• @Vigyani: , @WhisperToMe:, Namaste and Welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard. I had already provided sources and alternative names at your talk page. Let us know if have any other question. --Tito☸Dutta 13:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

To all: Thank you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 14:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Foreign language spellings in articles related to poems

I heard that it is against the project's consensus to have the original written name of a poem (Hindi, Bengali, Tamil, etc.) in the article about a poem. See this edit.

May I see the discussion about this? I'm going to check the overall Manual of Style to see what it says. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:01, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste @WhisperToMe: and welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard once again. Actually it is just above. Or, see WP:INDICSCRIPT. People may like it, they may dislike it. But, the current consensus suggests not to include Indic script in lead. Let me know if you have any question. Tito☸Dutta 15:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Is there another location where the original name of the poem may be included? I understand the reasoning was to prevent "territorial marking" of different people as mentioned in Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_48#Native_languages_in_lead. However this is about a poem written in the Bengali language so it would be very useful for the reader to know how the name of the poem is written in Bengali. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
    • It is already in the title and in the lyrics section Nachuk Tahate Shyama. --Tito☸Dutta 15:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
      • Well, I tried a text search for "নাচুক তাহাতে শ্যামা" and it does not find it in there. The reader will likely not pick out which Bengali characters are "Nachuk Tahate Shyama" in the lyrics. Is it fine if the Bengali text is in the infobox? WhisperToMe (talk) 15:51, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
        • This is one of the problems with WP:INDICSCRIPT, especially as relates to literature. Native language spellings are a critical requirement for a good percentage of people who look at these articles (as opposed to bios etc), but we'll need to run a new and more structured RfC to identify these nuances. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:00, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
          • I would also suggest changing INDICSCRIPT since it can conflict with other projects, and the wider community may strongly disagree. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:01, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
            • No. I oppose. This article also relates to literature. But, out articles often turn into something like this. --Tito☸Dutta 01:46, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
              • Poems from other countries typically do have their native names stated, whether Chinese, Japanese, Korean, or Russian. I'm not sure if the Misplaced Pages community would want the native names of Indian or Bangladeshi poems omitted when poems from other countries do have their native names. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I think Whisper raises a good point. WP:INDICSCRIPT makes sense for biographical, geographical, philosophical etc articles where (1) the subject is (typically) not innately linked to one particular language, (2) including "native" scripts is often just territorial marking by editors, and of little use to general reader. However for articles related to literature (books, poems) this may not be an issue since typically the subject is intrinsically linked to a language and more importantly, if the reader wants to search for the primary document they will probably need the name spelled out in the Indic script.

Now I can think of some exceptions such as Jana Gana Mana (where some editors have debated whether it is truly in Bengali), historical texts pre-dating writing (Ramayana is clearly linked to Sanskrit; its link to Devanagari is at least arguable), and oral literature like movie songs (are they in Hindi/Urdu/...). I don't have a clean proposal for these exceptional cases but I think for written literature at least WP:INDICSCRIPT may be throwing out the baby with the bathwater and perhaps we can carve out a narrow exception without collateral damage or setting out edit-wars. Thoughts? Abecedare (talk) 04:17, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

@User:WhisperToMe, WP:INDICSCRIPT came about through an RfC, not just Wikiproject consensus. However, it wasn't a very well structured discussion as it focused mostly on bio and geo articles and didn't provide the requisite focus for arts and literature. We'll need to redo a proper discussion, but some sort of a proper recommendation needs to be arrived at prior to going down the RfC process again or we'll end up with similar troubles. —SpacemanSpiff 04:39, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you think we should:

1. Redo the RFC that led to WP:INDICSCRIPT? (That's reopening a can of worms!)
2. Just carve a (written) literature exception for now ? (That I can start off)
3. Neither/something else ?

Abecedare (talk) 05:07, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I think 2 is a given (albeit including arts in addition to literature, e.g. It is definitely helpful to have Pather Panchali in Bengali too), but there might be something around 3 that is needed -- especially with numerous geo AfDs, we might need to include script in geo articles, but the scope needs to be clear -- e.g. Palghat should not have Tamil despite the fact that there's a significant minority population and so on. I think it should be crystal clear that only the state's official language and in cases where cities have additional official languages they could be included, but nothing more. I think structuring an RfC after a few discussions here might be helpful as the main problem last time was that the RfC became a moving target and caused the final outcome. So we probably need to list out the multiple options (1) Status quo, (2) Exceptions for (a) Lit, (b) arts, (c) geo and so on. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:42, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I think we may need multiple RFCs since the different classes of articles present different issues.

For example, I think the current WP:INDICSCRIPT is a good call for biographical articles. For literature articles, I have drafted a RFC proposal on my talk page for further discussion (Note: That is not an RFC per se; just trying to determine the scope and wording of the question to pose. Input welcome there.) The situation may be quite complex with geographic articles: for example how would we deal with features that cross state lines (eg, Cauvery River!), historic places/cities (eg, Indraprastha) or cities with close, but possibly not official, language associations (eg, Lucknow and Urdu). I can see the temptation to just go with the blanket prohibition, though editors with more experience in that area can weigh in and/or draft a RFC proposal. Abecedare (talk) 07:27, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

• The initial old RfC did have different sections discussed separately. Only the closing admin did not consider them so. Anyways... we can always start another RfC. But who ever starts it, i would request then to include the option of having indic scripts, how many so ever possibly related, if more than one should be included in a footnote. There is no good reason to exclude them from lead other than aesthetics and edit-wars which both can be solved if a footnote of all possible scripts of Rajinikanth was present. For non-controversial articles, which would be say 80% of the scope, scripts can be added in lead. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

• And please propose a brief and easy solution. I think the way we are approaching, our consensus will be something like

  "In "these" articles you may add Indic scripts, but not in "thEse" articles, again in "theSE" articles you may add Indic scripts, but again not in "thesE" articles. In 'thESE" articles you may add Indic scripts only if the article is uncontroversial, in "tHeSe" articles, please do not add Indic scripts if there was any dispute/edit warring over it already, for South Indian articles add only South Indian scripts and not Devanagari, for Adi Shankara's biography add .. umm I don't know what...

  
  Such conclusions will be difficult to explain. --Tito☸Dutta 08:04, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't like the idea of going down this road (think downward, very slick!). The problem with carving out exceptions is that the exception will itself not be very clear.Something like Sare Jahan Se Achha springs to mind almost immediately as a problematic case. What's wrong with decluttering the lead and just sticking it in the infobox as we've decided to do? --regentspark (comment) 18:50, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Is there space to put it in the infobox of Nachuk Tahate Shyama? If the article has no infobox, will it be okay in the lead? Often solutions aren't easy but they may be the best and we just have to do our best. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

request for sourcing assistance

The article Antha Scene Ledu need sourcing. Its text tells us filming wrapped July 19, 2013, promotion will begin September 21, 2013, and the film is slated for release November 2013. Its a Telugu and Tamil film and will need input and assistance from editors better able to find Tamil and Telugu sources. Certainly its production has been spoken of somewehere. Can anyone here help? Schmidt, 18:31, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste and welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard. I have searched in Google Telugu, but have not found any source. I feel, a) the film is going to release in November 2013 is a first hand report/original research. The article creator attempted creating an article on "Chakravarthy Ramachandra" the film's producer (he has made few films). They have created an article on the film production too Bad Monkey (notability unclear). His friend has created Rahul koda (with wrong cap) who is the film's screenplay writer. b) it is a low budget film c) they are just advertising/spamming. --Tito☸Dutta 19:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

• Much appreciate the second set of eyes. Schmidt, 20:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Jitendra Ravia

Jitendra Ravia appears to be an autobiography. Is this person notable enough to qualify for an article? If so, the article needs some serious cleanup. If not, it needs to be PRODded or taken to AFD. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste and welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard. I do not think the subject passes WP:GNG. He is a journalist and work(s/ed) for a Gujarati daily. His other monthly magazine was launched this year. I'll try to contact the article creator. Yes, it can be taken to AFD. Thank you. Tito☸Dutta 03:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• I proposed this for deletion. The PROD was contested. It is now at AFD. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jitendra Ravia. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Anyone interested in userfying an article?

I had the article Sunni Students Federation come up for speedy deletion. It was promotional enough in tone to where I deleted it, but they did assert some notability as far as their numbers go. It looks like there's a huge language barrier here, so I thought I'd drop a note and ask if anyone here would be interested in userfying it and working on it while looking for sources. If anyone is interested, message me on my userspace. I figure I'd ask here again, as I've had some wonderful people come in and help with various other articles that have been up for deletion (or been outright deleted) in various instances. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste Tokyogirl79, welcome to the Wikiproject India noticeboard. You are correct, this version of the article was poorly written. I feel this is a notable organization. You'll find mentions in here, you might get few more sources here (replace "google.com/dse/" to "google.com/cse/" in the URL). But the problem is there seems to be multiple Sunni Students Federations like Samastha Kerala Sunni Students Federation, I am also knot sure if Karnataka State Sunni Students Federation and this one have any link. --Tito☸Dutta 08:23, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
  • @ Tokyogirl79 and Tito, I agree with Tito that; SSF being among notable organizations of Kerala state, working since 40 Years. Asper SSF web site it is working towards the educational and community traditional awarness in Kerala. And the issue of existence of co-name organization out of Kerala, and if that is notable we can name it as SSF-Karnataka etc. Any way I prefer we shall keep the article and I will take over to restore its contents upto the standards of WP:MOS. Thus please restore it so that I can proceet editing. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 10:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Prithviraj Chauhan

I have deleted 3 paragraphs which were copy/pasted from a website(which appears to be an unreliable source). This article is in desperate need of reliable sources. Legends and websites are poor sources for writing about this man. I am sure there are some individuals that own some Indian history books written by historians that can be used for this article. Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

He is more legend than man. Most historical literature on him is of the unreliable nationalist variety. There are scholarly books, however, on how the legend came to be created. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:09, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

SpaceHub Southeast

I converted SpaceHub Southeast (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) from Indian English to American English, because this is an American company based out of Atlanta, Georgia. If you think that MOS:RETAIN is more important than MOS:TIES, feel free to revert me. -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste, and welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard. Why do you think the article is within the scope of WikiProject India and it was written in Indian English? --Tito☸Dutta 09:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

This is the India-related topics noticeboard (Misplaced Pages talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics), so I posted a notice, as it concerns the usage of Indian English in an article. As to why I thought it was written in Indian English, there was a banner saying it was written in Indian English before I removed it when I converted it to American English. -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 09:42, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

• I read the article and checked its talk page, found nothing related to India. This is not a WP India article. It seems they tagged incorrectly. --Tito☸Dutta 12:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Unencylopedic picture

I recently happened upon a picture File:Tarapith.JPG, which had been included until recently in three Misplaced Pages articles: Cremation, Tarapith and Dwarka River. It is still included in three Misplaced Pages articles, but now they are: Litter, Tarapith and Dwarka River.

I'm posting here because it's hard (at least for me) to ascertain that the picture really illustrates Tarapith and Dwarka River. What is shown is too generic. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

PS Should we be assuming good faith when all we see is a rural river valley egregiously littered with plastic and paper, whose river is being further desecrated by four young men, lounging in various poses, who are flicking cigarette ash or streaming their urine into it? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

• Namaste, the image does not actually illustrates "Tarapith", but the cremation ground, as the image caption reads "Cremation ground at Tarapith", and article provides details on the cremation ground— "The cremation ground, amidst dark forest surroundings, is located on the river side at the end of town limits, away from the village life...". So, I think, it is fine, although an image like this could be better. --Tito☸Dutta 19:45, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

A photograph of the kind Titto suggests would indeed be much preferable! Abecedare (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

(after ec) Given that the same user uploaded this photograph (which was shot just 10minutes earlier than the river-view) I am ready to AGF that it does show the cremation grounds at Tarapith. I have more mixed feelings about whether they should be used at those articles. It sure isn't picturesque, or encyclopedic a la EB, but then again should we mould reality to match our expectations (we sure wouldn't have objected to the cowherd seen towards the left, so does objecting to the "youth" make us guilty of romanticized orientalism? my head aches)? As a stop-gap, I would suggest retaining the image at the cremation section of Tarapith (maybe, it will induce local residents, visitors to upload a more flattering shot), but removing it from Dwarka River for which more apt images could be found, and for which the Tarapith location is not particularly important. Abecedare (talk) 20:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Abecedare's discovery of T-10 does put to rest my AGF worries. So, thanks. However, my main concern is not that the picture is unflattering, but that it doesn't support the text in Tarapith#Cremation_ground. True my eyesight is not what it used to be, but I don't see any evidence of any cremation, past, present, or future, at least not of the variety that I've seen elsewhere along river banks in India. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Heads-up on Hyderabad

Hyderabad is going to be on the main page on September 19. Given the current political turmoil, it is likely to get some attention. Please keep it watch-listed.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:41, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

To reduce fanboys and vandals i think we can include one line in the lead itself about it going to be a joint capital once Telangana is formed. That would probably be the main thing which readers would expect to see but won't be patient enough till they reach "Modern history" section. The point is lead worth anyways and it will be included there definitely once it happens for real. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Added a sentence in the lead.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:Colonial schools in India

Category:Colonial schools in India, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz 12:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:21st-century Indian television actresses

Category:21st-century Indian television actresses, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz 12:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

People really should take a look at this because systemic bias might play a part. - Sitush (talk) 11:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:21st-century Indian film actresses

Category:21st-century Indian film actresses, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz 12:59, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Assistance sought to improve an article

The original Young Malang film article was speedy deleted... perhaps without due consideration that otherwise tag-able concerns, including a sense of WP:PEACOCK, were addressable underWP:IMPROVE, WP:ATD andWP:WIP. It was most likely written by a newcomer who lacked understanding of how PEACOCK terms give an unsourced article a very bad reputation. It was then recreated in a much shorter version asYOUNG MALANG by another apparent newcomer and sent immediately to AFD. As the film's production has received significant coverage and the film is due to release on the 20th, I undeleted the original version and moved in into my userspace. I seek assistance in bringing the original into line for a return to mainspace. Who's up for helping improve it? ' Schmidt, 02:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Ethnicity of Prithviraj Kapoor

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Prithviraj Kapoor#Pathan/Pashtun ethnicity of Prithviraj Kapoor. -- Trevj (talk) 08:17, 19 September 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

Anjana Om Kashyap

The newly-created article Anjana Om Kashyap needs serious work.

If this person is as well-written about as a Google.com search indicates, there is the possibility of getting this up to WP:Good article status or at least B-class fairly quickly if people familiar with her and who are familiar with what is and is not a reliable source for people in her profession in her country work on it.

My challenge to WikiProject India, should you choose to accept it: Get this up to B-class within a week and if it looks like GA status is feasible, get it to GA within a month. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 14:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Articles related to the Sino-Indian border dispute

Hello all, this was something I came across and thought would be relevant to you. There has been much sparring and discussion between two editors about several articles related to disputed places between India and China. It began with a CfD nomination regarding Category:Areas occupied by China after the Sino-Indian War. The conclusion was that the category was well-defined and should be retained but could be renamed to a better title. Since then there have been many attempts by one of the editors to remove text and references from the articles and to remove the articles from the category, while the other prefers to retain them. Some of the articles of places that are involved are Lanak Pass, Spanggur Gap, Spanggur Tso, Khurnak Fort, Sirijap, Dehra Compass, Kongka Pass, Galwan River, Chip Chap River, Depsang plains, Demchok and Dêmqog, Ngari Prefecture. Other related articles that have not been edited as much are Events leading to the Sino-Indian War, Sino-Indian War, Aksai Chin, Line of Actual Control, China-India relations and Sino-Indian border dispute. I am not sure, but it appears that the pro-China editor gradually makes articles pro-China over time, while it appears that the other editor has an uncompromising and almost stubborn attitude. Discussion has also been done at Administrators noticeboard, User talk:Jreferee and on all the related talk pages. Perhaps you should keep an eye on these pages. 117.195.122.22 (talk) 16:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• Project-Class India pages
• NA-importance India pages
• Project-Class India articles of NA-importance
• WikiProject India articles