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Top Namespace Edits

Hello TParis, I frequently use your tools, and they are very informative. I was curious if it is possible to increase the amount of results for the "Top Namespace Edits" tool (the default being 100). Or if there is another tool that serves the same purpose to find more than 100 results. I have been curious about this for awhile, so I thought might as well go straight to the source. Regards, STATic message me! 03:24, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm having trouble recalling exactly which tool you're talking about, can you give me a link?--v/r - TP 12:54, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh really? You probably have more tools then you can remember aha. I was refering to this. My mistake for calling it Top Namespace Edits, I had my results for the main namespace bookmarked, so I thought that was the name of the tool. STATic message me! 13:07, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I do not know if you did not see this, but I guess there is not a way to expand the search. STATic message me! 00:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Ohh yeah, sorry. I'm sorry but there is no setting to make that do anymore pages. It's limited to 100 so I don't overtax the database servers.--v/r - TP 00:33, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay, thanks for the explanation. Regards, STATic message me! 16:20, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin

Hi. Since you contributed to the discussion resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at Misplaced Pages:AN#Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 17:57, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Titus Andronicus

You know, I was wondering what v/r stood for in all your posts! Anyhow, wanted to ask you a question about the Titus Andronicus situation. Given that the block on the page is being lifted tomorrow, I posted a question asking what happens next, given that you said three of the images were fine, I assumed those three could be put back. Perhaps I read too much into your post, I don't know. Whatever the case, when I asked the question, Werith responded with "Given the facts that have been established, (the files in question can be replaced, not easily but certainly doable), the files need to stay out of the article for failing WP:NFCC#1." This confuses me. Was there another discussion taking place somewhere? I didn't know any facts had been established. The vast majority of the editors involved in the discussion felt they didn't fail NFCC#1, yourself included. As an admin, I thought your points carried some weight, but was your involvement completely pointless? And also, is there no method of redress regarding a next move. Obviously, I can't just add them back or Werith would remove them, and we'd be back exactly where we started, so I'm wondering what one should do in these circumstances. Thanks very much. Bertaut (talk) 23:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) v/r can stand for "very respectful" or "very respectfully"; I've seen it both ways. It's common at the bottom of emails. Regards, —  dainomite   23:54, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Really? That's interesting. Is that an American thing? In Ireland, it's (semi) common to sign formal emails with RY ("respectfully yours"), BR ("Best Regards"), or in less formal communications ATB ("All the Best"). Bertaut (talk) 23:58, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

It could very well be an American thing. I never saw it myself until I joined the U.S. Military a few years ago and ever since then almost everyone I've exchanged an email with has had it in their email signature. Regards, —  dainomite   00:03, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Dainomite is right about v/r. As far as me saying that three of the images are fine, that was only in reference to the AN3 complaint and why I didn't block anyone. My opinion of WP:NFCC is as subject to consensus as anyone else'. Admins don't carry anymore weight, in that regard, but we are required to explain ourselves and there was enough criticism of my decision that an explanation was warranted. So as far as a way forward, you should seek to develop a consensus. I see that Kww and a few of ya'all have begun discussing it. I'd give discussion a few more days and then see if anyone has been convinced of either side. From my vantage point, it seems some folks feel Werieth may have some legitimate concerns and so those should be vetted. However, if discussion stalls, then a WP:NFCR discussion or WP:DSN discussion should be able to get things moving again.--v/r - TP 00:36, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

There's no way a consensus is going to be reached through discussion on the talk page. Werith is simply too unreasonable and refuses to have his opinion challenged. As I mentioned somewhere in the myriad of discussion, I did plan to file a WP:NFCR before everything blew up. I told Werith I would file one. It's possible that because I didn't do it straight away, he assumed I wasn't going to do it at all, which is not an unreasonable assumption. I planned on doing it the next day, but by that stage many cats had leaped amongst many pigeons. I'll do it tomorrow so. One final (two-part) question though. Given that the images are currently orphans (except the BBC one), don't they run the risk of being deleted before the WP:NFCR has run it's course? Secondly, if the purpose of the WP:NFCR is to determine whether or not the images are legitimate for usage in the article, doesn't it make more sense for them to actually be in the article whilst the discussion is ongoing, so people can see the caption and accompaying text etc rather than just looking at the image in isolation. Apologies if these are foolish questions, but I've never done anything in this area before. Bertaut (talk) 01:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The CSD criteria for unused non-free files says they may be deleted after seven days. If you start a NFCR discussion tomorrow, it should be over in two days or so. You should be alright. As far as their use and context, you can use a permanent link to a historical revision of the page to demonstrate that. I don't know if Werieth is reasonable or not, I can't recall a time I've ever worked with them. But Kww is there too and if you can convince him then there is no need to also convince Werieth because the discussion has leaned a certain direction.--v/r - TP 01:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks very much. I appreciate the advice. Nice meeting you. Bertaut (talk) 01:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Clarification request: Ayn Rand

The clarification request that you have filed has been archived, with no action taken: For the Arbitration Committee, Rschen7754 05:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

pcount script

Hi TParis,

Sorry to bother you. The reason I am contacting you is that the error page says you are looking after the script. Please let me know if this is inappropriate.

The "pcount" script seems to have stopped working for the German language Misplaced Pages in the last few days. (It is still working fine for the English language one, and the alternate "yaec" script is also still working even for the German language Misplaced Pages.)

pcount on de wikipedia seems to switch between the following behaviours since Saturday or Sunday:

• It claims my user does not exist, often after a long wait.
• It claims the German Misplaced Pages does not exist, often after a long wait.
• It takes so long that a proxy server times out.

pcount on en wikipedia on the other hand still works fine. Similarly it works for the English language Wiktionary, but not the German language one. Perhaps some server communications error?

Strangely, another script, yaec on de wikipedia, seems to have no problem accessing the German Misplaced Pages. (But perhaps it simply does less work and so is less affected by any network problems?)

Thanks.

--SpecMade (talk) 23:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Try this one http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/ and please update any links to toolserver on de Misplaced Pages to reflect the new URL.--v/r - TP 23:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that works much better (and faster). It does give an error message before the result though:

Warning: syntax error, unexpected '=' in Unknown on line 33 in /data/project/xtools/public_html/phptemp/PHPtemp.php on line 75 Warning: array_merge(): Argument #2 is not an array in /data/project/xtools/public_html/phptemp/PHPtemp.php on line 75 Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /data/project/xtools/public_html/phptemp/PHPtemp.php on line 79 Warning: syntax error, unexpected '=' in Unknown on line 33 in /data/project/xtools/public_html/phptemp/PHPtemp.php on line 75 Warning: array_merge(): Argument #2 is not an array in /data/project/xtools/public_html/phptemp/PHPtemp.php on line 75 Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /data/project/xtools/public_html/phptemp/PHPtemp.php on line 79
SpecMade - {#tool#} - X!'s tools 

BTW, I found the link on de:Spezial:Beiträge/SpecMade (at the bottom at "Beitragszähler (detailliert)"). Do you happen to know who can fix the links on those Special: pages? (Don't worry if not, I'll ask on its talk page then.) Thanks again. --SpecMade (talk) 23:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I thought I fixed that error already about an hour ago. Try it again and let me know. As far as who can update the link, ask an admin.--v/r - TP 00:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the script is working fine now. About updating the link I have asked on de.wikipedia (but it's night time in DE now). Thanks for all your help! --SpecMade (talk) 00:46, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Just to close this out, the link has been fixed too. Thanks. --SpecMade (talk) 13:45, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

iPad Air

Thanks for the move. Think you could re-unite Talk:IPad air with it's original host, iPad Air? I assume the page history of Talk:IPad Air should be preserved somehow. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 19:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

No problem, it's done.--v/r - TP 19:37, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Pages created

https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pages/index.php?name=Kaiyr&lang=ru&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects&getall=1 «Unknown database 'ruwiki_p'MySQL ERROR! Table 'toolserver.user' doesn't exist» - please fix. --Sunpriat (talk) 21:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Toolserver is being shut down Dec 31st. Try the WMFLabs version and please update all links on RU Misplaced Pages. http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pages/index.php?name=Kaiyr&lang=ru&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects.--v/r - TP 22:37, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new Featured and A-Class content Book reviews: Nick-D looks Austro-Hungarian battleships of World War I Op-ed: Advice on reviewing Featured and A-Class articles

The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 22:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Main page talk page

Just to let you know, there's the beginnings of a discussion concerning your protection here. J Milburn (talk) 10:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Concerning this - I don't think anyone was trying to be snarky. The concern was more 'why are we using a week of protection in this scenario' - a question which was perfectly valid. Don't take it personally, as I'm sure Modest Genius' intention wasn't to call you out with the intent of disparaging your good name. Cheers, m.o.p 23:25, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

37 TRW

Cool. Just make sure everything is correct Thank you :) Bwmoll3 (talk) 15:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Lou Sander

Lou Sander notified the following individuals:

1. Liz
2. Annalisa_Ventola
3. Tento2
4. Askahrc
5. Iantresman
6. David_in_DC

about a discussion where the dispute was "How should the mainstream view of "science has become a series of dogmas" be addressed in the lead?"

In order to determine if those individuals were supportive of the mainstream principles of science, we review their histories in the field.

1. Liz has stated that she believes "There are Editors, skeptics, who do monitor all articles they label pseudoscience. That's not a conspiracy, they say as much on their User Pages that this is their interest on Misplaced Pages. I don't think they are evil, they are just quick to label any person who believes in alternate views of science as "fringe" or a "quack" and they don't want people with those views editing Misplaced Pages." She may very well be right. This is, however, a clear predisposition towards one side of the conflict - one hostile to the mainstream principles of science .
2. Annalisa_Ventola believes that Parapsychology is science.
3. Tento2 has supported including content supportive of Sheldrake from "The Institute of Noetic Sciences,"
4. Askahrc has removed parapsychologist from the subject's description .
5. Iantresman was banned as a result of his being a "general POV-warrior of all sorts of pseudoscience and fringe science ideas."
6. David_in_DC, while the lest egregious of the notifications, supports a lede which excludes the word parapsychologist from the description of Sheldrake (User:Tumbleman/sandbox#Alternate_lede_proposal).

Without arguing that this selection of editors are right or wrong about the content dispute (because we don't argue content here at this encyclopedia, just make sure no one uses the word fuck!), it is clear that the failure to notify vzaak, for instance, is glaring. Why was vzaak not notified? Should vzaak assume it's because he does not "know how to express opinions politely and helpfully?" That's incivil. Is it because Lou assumes vzaak will disagree with him? That's canvassing. Is it an oversight? Possibly, but then let's ask the same question about everyone who clearly disagrees with Lou on the talk page. OSTheRobot (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

You do realize that although you've expressed to Fluffernutter that you do not want to be connected to your real account, which hasn't edited in a year, that I'm going to have to assume socking? I'm very likely to simply delete this from my user page w/in 24 hours because I believe that promoting socking (by acknowledging issues brought up by socks) is more damaging to the encyclopedia than addressing the issues they bring up. I don't know your story, but if you're an indef banned disruptive user, then the best course of action is to not give you a reason to return.--v/r - TP 21:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I know you have better things to do than wade through the muck that section has become as the various sides again post their walls of only semi relevant text, particularly when you have also been pinged by someone who screams SOCK!!! I am sorry that I notified the editors which led to the new diarrhea of text, but I thought it was a necessary step when naming someone on the boards. I am hoping that my post that led to their notification doesn't get lost.

this notification by Lou is particularly telling. He titles the section heading with "Sheldrake/Tumbleman" although the section on the talk page has nothing to do with Tumbleman who had been indeffed several days before. Liz has been an ardent advocate encouraging Tumbleman and as can be seen here (uncollapse the Tumbleman results) Iantresman and Askahrc also speak in favor of him. None of the people who spoke against his actions in the AE were notified by Lou Sander. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

if you look at [this discussion about whether or not to use the word "hypothesis" you will find in support of the idea (indeffed user Tumbleman), iantresman, Annalisa Ventola. none of the people speaking against the use of the word "hypothesis" were in the "randomly" selected users notified by Lou Sander. Do you need more? I hate to have people have to slog through the mire on this topic.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:47, 24 October 2013 (UTC)}

Thank you for your time. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:54, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

TRPoD, I gave Lou this message and his reply was "Got it, thanks". Let's give him time to see if the message sunk in.--v/r - TP 13:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for responding! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:51, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

About X!'s Edit Counter and an error

Hello. Firstly I want to thank you for your work in this tool, very useful to most of wikipedians of all wikis; but this is not the matter I want to tell you.

Sometimes —and now from some days ago— I get a rare error when I try to count my edits on Spanish Misplaced Pages (my home wiki), with this message: ″Zerabat no existe″ (translated in english: ″Zerabat does not exist″). However, when I tried to see my edits on English Misplaced Pages, after a long time loading the page (toolserver is veeery slow) I finally saw my edits there. I do not know if it is an error when the tool try to connect to ESWIKI database or why, but this is not the only case I know in ESWIKI. My user account really exists. I would like to know what is the cause of this. Greets. --Zerabat (talk) 13:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Are you using the toolserver version or the WMFLabs version?--v/r - TP 13:42, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I would also like to thank you for your contributions. And I also got the same experience on the German Misplaced Pages with the same error message while calling this URL https://toolserver.org/%7Etparis/count/index.php?lang=de&wiki=wikipedia&name=Hippopotamus777 Regards Hippopotamus777 (talk) 21:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Hippopotamus777. I suggest you try the WMFLabs link TParis gave explicitly under the similar discussion under #pcount script. It fixed it for me (for pcount rather than count, but same difference). --SpecMade (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Topic Ban appeal

I saw your notice.

I request an immediate relaxation in respect of the articles History of the metric system and International System of Units, both of which are currently being reviewed as WP:Good Articles.

I also request an immediate relaxation in respect of an SPA that I am about to place on another user.

Thank you.

Martinvl (talk) 17:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I will consider the request for relaxation for the purposes of the GA review once I've reviewed the area to determine whether the dispute has crossed over there or not. If it has, I'm likely going to say no. If it has not, I'll allow you to finish the GA process on those two articles only. I'll let you know later today. I'm unable to relax the topic ban with respect to this other user, however.--v/r - TP 17:35, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I've reviewed both pages and I don't see recent overlap with the specific dispute that led to your topic ban. I'll allow you to finish the GA reviews provided that no disputes erupt on those pages with other editors, you remain civil, no wiki lawyering, and that they are wrapped up in a reasonable amount of time. Please limit your interactions to the GA reviewer unless a direct question is asked of you. If a dispute erupts on these pages during the GA review, I will rescind this exception prior to any block. I am also copying this to your talk page for easier retrieval from other sysops.--v/r - TP 17:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

You may wish to be aware that Martinvl has appealed the entire ban at WP:AN. --Rschen7754 01:53, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Recent block

This time right? I don't care if the IP is blocked. I just want them to follow our guidelines - WP:REDACT, WP:SEEALSO, etc. --NeilN 17:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Huh, I wasn't aware we could do retroactive blocks.--v/r - TP 18:13, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

List of new religious movements

Hello!

I have made a few attempts to clean up List of new religious movements, which is a list article with a long history of contention, topic bans, puppetry, even at least one major contributor who was de-sysoped. Unfortunately, I haven't been successful in the attempt at cleanup. I'm asking you to take a look at the recent activity on the article and the talk page. Although I have my own thoughts on what some of the issues are, I would rather get yours without my frustration bleeding through too heavily.

I am dropping this note for the most recently active admins I saw, and I am hopeful that those extra eyes will make a difference.

Thanks for considering it, cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 21:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I've taken a look and it seems pretty mild still. It might be frustrating, but ya'all are talking and it hasn't reached the level of edit warring yet. Keep trying to form a consensus or seek dispute resolution.--v/r - TP 22:38, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking, I appreciate it. We'll get there somehow :). --Tgeairn (talk) 00:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Curiosity: Did you get a little carried away with this revdel? Or was it unfortunately necessary to protect that one red-link user who was supposedly being "outed"? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I didn't do the revdel, actually. I did the 'outing' apparently. I contacted OS to ask if they thought it was outing and they said that it's better safe than sorry and so I removed it. Then an OSer over-sighted the revisions between the introduction and removal of the link.--v/r - TP 23:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

10-4. It's not the first time I've seen that happen. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:46, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't think it was a big deal to link the guy's linkedin since he uses his real name and has edited from his IP. Putting 2 and 2 together takes no effort. But apparently I was wrong.--v/r - TP 00:49, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Someone is suffering some serious RSI right now. Hey Bugs, you excited about the Alabama-Tennessee game tomorrow? Drmies (talk) 01:47, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

F- Alabama...it's a long shot - but GO TENNESSEE!!! (Ohh yeah, and go OU cause I get a free sub at Lenny's if they beat Texas Tech)--v/r - TP 02:01, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I know you asked Bugs, but since I frequent TP's talk page I thought I'd chime in. I'm more interested in the Oregon-UCLA game only because my Badgers have a bye week. But! I'm sure Saban will be angry at the bama fans again for leaving early during another blowout, sorry Bugs. However, I will be rooting for Tennessee solely because I want to see Bama lose. —  dainomite   02:06, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

See, I just need Tennessee to win so the Ducks can move into that top spot. Florida State isn't a threat. UCLA is going to get stomped.--v/r - TP 02:10, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Fuck your ducks, TParis. Ducks are gay and they don't even have guns. Ha! Dainomite may have a point about those Bama fans and it will be chillsome in Tuscaloosa, but they played South Carolina real good. Drmies (talk) 02:15, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't be jealous...58 points a game. I almost want Alabama to keep top spot. I'd love to put the Ducks up against an SEC team this year. Auburn cheated us out of a BCS championship.--v/r - TP 02:16, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Lol Drmies! Yeah I'm rooting for a Bama-Oregon game this year and I would love to see Bama lose to the Ducks in the BCS championship. The LSU-Bama game in a few weeks will be a good one to watch. Drmies, I assume you're a roll tide fan? —  dainomite   02:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Hmm...yes, the Ducks against an SEC team--one of those teams made up of rednecks that can run the ball all night long and don't like getting scored on...I wonder if that's ever happened, the Ducks against an SEC team, and how such a game would have ended... Tide rolls, administrative action may be required here. We outrank these heathens (since we're two admins, and they only got one), and I believe they spewed fighting words. Seriously, TParis, I actually rooted for Oregon during the first half of that game--I don't remember sticking around for the second half. Dainomite, yes, but guess where my paycheck comes from--from the plains. Drmies (talk) 02:25, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I suppose I should let you know why I want to see Bama lose. Basically it's because my friend would throw a the largest fit if they lost because she's such a big Bama fan and it's always fun watching her squirm and not get her way xD. She went to University of Alabama just for the football team if that helps your understanding of the situation. Besides, watching the WI-Bama game in 2015 is going to be very painful so I have to get some enjoyment from somewhere. I'm not sure what Barry Alvarez was thinking when he signed up for us to play LSU and you guys. —  dainomite   02:35, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Not really. The teams I would most like to see win haven't won the national title since Eisenhower was in office. I do hope somebody beats Alabama at some point, especially if it screws with the BCS computer. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Bug report

Hi there. I 've tried to use the tool to check the user's creations record, but it says: "Unknown database 'eswiki_p'MySQL ERROR! Table 'toolserver.user' doesn't exist". ¿It is posible to fix? Thanks a lot. Regards. Jaontiveros (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

We are migrating to WMF Labs. Please use this tool instead and please also update any links on ES Wiki.--v/r - TP 14:24, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

rent my vacation home usa go to our talk page

Please restore our work with the new references that were supplied when you deleted the work. the old work from aperson that was deleted was resubmitted with hard back book copy this time please restore and go to my talk page.Drjonesesq (talk) 08:09, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I was initially going to ignore this, but others have strongly urged you to approach me and it'd be a waste of their effort if I didn't at least acknowledge and respond to what you said. So I will. Your original accusation that I am in some way a financial competitor was malicious and fairly laughable. You've made several legal threats against this site and its users for which it is a miracle you haven't been blocked and you've received endless amounts of patience and advice. You've ignored nearly all of that advice except for that which might serve your ends. But the fact of the matter is, you will never, and if I'm not clear that means there is not a chance in your lifetime, post that article on Misplaced Pages. You're conflict of interest has made it clear you're unable to edit within out guidelines. You use "esq" on your username, which I assume means you're a lawyer, so you should be well aware of what a conflict of interest is. The only chance of your site ever being covered by Misplaced Pages is if some other user decides to create it. And by some other user, I mean some editors that has edited on Misplaced Pages for a significant period of time, has contributions in many other areas of Misplaced Pages, and there is no way they could be you or connected to you or "Rent My Vacation home USA". If you truly are a teacher, which baffles me why any teacher would ever try to instruct their students on something they themselves are not an expert at, then you should've taken the time to choose a much more worthwhile subject that doesn't scream "ADVERTISEMENT". Seek other means to advertise this company.--v/r - TP 22:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Easy to see the site is corrupt please ban me and my students. Your in deep with competitors wonder how much money they donated. Make sure and hurry to delete and suppress information from the public so you control what everyone will read. This is a embarrassment as a encyclopedia and you should be ashamed as this is nothing more than a place to advertise you proved that. Did not even check the hardback books please ban me you run a site so corrupt and I will post this all over the net you will see you cant silence me you bully. You cant even wait for the appeal can you. In 3 weeks I will start to post what you have done in all media formats so be careful when you try to silence voices for profit..Drjonesesq (talk) 09:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

LMAO ... Drjones, we admins do not ever see a list of "who has donated to Misplaced Pages". TParis has no idea if your competitors have given a red cent to the project. Nobody wants you banned - you simply need to follow the rules. The article was deleted. Its replacement STILL didn't meet our requirements. You either try again as a draft article, and not in article space or you give up. If you're involved in the business, you're not permitted AT ALL to write about it. This isn't rocket frickin science - it's, in part, ethical behaviour. Misplaced Pages is a community - start acting like you're a part of it, because when you signed up, you AGREED to these concepts and rules without exception. You're not the first person who has written a poor article. You're not the first person who has tried to promote an entity. We're pretty sure you can change, which is why we're being so patient - even though you're making threats. Seriously ...THREATS? What is this, Grade 2? ES&L 10:28, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, even if he's involved in the business he can still submit a draft at WP:AFC. Whether it would get accepted there, is quite another thing.

As for "I will post this all over the net", that's most amusing. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:12, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I think he means "I will post all over the net that we tried to publish a promotional article on Misplaced Pages, and it didn't meet their requirements. I then tried again, without still fully understanding those requirements and ACCIDENTALLY believed that some random editor accepting something meant it was fine, when in reality, it was still wholly unacceptable, and it got found out again and deleted a second time. I will then post all over the net that I made threats to the people and to the project, based wholly on how poorly I listen to wise counsel, and how poorly I understand the purpose of Misplaced Pages" ES&L 13:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

The Barnstar is greatly appreciated. Yes, it was a lot of work. I had thought of presenting it in a RfC/U, but that process seems Namby Pamby compared to the problem we faced. So I waited for the opportunity (e.g., for someone to say "te") rather than first strike myself and be accused of harassment. The comment we saw about "recently" learning about civility is pure flak. Back on 30 August I read "I think we need to be very careful to stay civil while still being honest and direct. It's not that easy, and when I slip, I will apologize and correct myself, especially if it's pointed out." Will the topic ban work? I had hoped for a block, but we will see. So I think continued reconnaissance is in order. – S. Rich (talk) 15:43, 28 October 2013 (UTC)