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Hey everyone (everyone that comes here that is) I am on an unscheduled Wiki-Break and will be on and off for a short periods for a while. I will to contributing more when I am caught up with my work in real life! Thanks. Feel free to e-mail me if you wish to discuss something!--Mark Miller (talk) 03:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Moving a discussion on the Manning naming issue that continues...

(Copy pasted from Rschen7754's talk page) This is the same issue over and over again. Some people will never be okay with respecting Chelsea's decision to live honestly as the woman she feels she is. This is an entrenched attitude that has been at play for several months. Despite their involvement in these discussions some editors insist that use of her former name, apparently anywhere, doesn't technically violate BLP enough to warrant its use. No amount of discussion, or what amounts to lawyering, seems to get away from that stance and it seems the battle itself is enjoyed. Meanwhile those who identify as or with trans women are deeply offended and that's when we decided enough is enough and we have to say something even if means dealing with these attitudes even more, it's very counterproductive and frustrating. Sportfan5000 (talk) 01:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Sportfan5000 you wrote:

• '"Some people will never be okay with respecting Chelsea's decision .." Of course not, were you expecting such?
• "ome editors insist that use of her former name, apparently anywhere, doesn't technically violate BLP enough to warrant its use. No amount of discussion, or what amounts to lawyering, seems to get away from that stance and it seems the battle itself is enjoyed." Accusational. How does it help to accuse editors of enjoying this?
• "Meanwhile those who identify as or with trans women are deeply offended and that's when we decided enough is enough and we have to say something even if means dealing with these attitudes even more, it's very counterproductive and frustrating." So....nothing for trans men? Please....I am deeply offended by a great deal on Misplaced Pages, but I don't insist that those that offend me be sanctioned as a group. This never ends well and it shouldn't. We can no more tell groups of people that they are not allowed to offend others when offending people is so easily done when just discussing the issues. If you are so sensitive that you cannot discuss how others feel or think without them being in the absolute wrong, then we are stuck in place as no one can control another's deep felt beliefs by force. it never works.--Mark Miller (talk) 02:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Copyright on images not under copyright in the USA

"We cannot accept File:Anne of Denmark; King Charles I when Prince of Wales; King James I of England and VI of Scotland by Simon De Passe (2).jpg" Who says? because I do not see such a restriction in Misplaced Pages:Image use policy indeed it specifically says "For example, a straight-on photograph of the Mona Lisa is ineligible for copyright", or under Misplaced Pages:List_of_policies#Legal -- PBS (talk) 14:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

On Misplaced Pages, third party copyright claims restrict their use as non free images. These may be hosted on Commons but are not used on an FA or GA article. If the images are returned I will simply call the GA declined.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:38, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Copyright is a complicated issue, but in this case these images were being claimed by a third party based on UK law only, which Misplaced Pages is not obligated to adhere to in this case as our servers are all located on US soil. Also, a legal threat has been made in regards to these images and can be located here. While I have the utmost respect for galleries, libraries, archives and museums, I also support Misplaced Pages's right to apply US law to this site and the inclusion of material clearly in the public Domain in the US. Thanks and my apologies to PBS, who kept a level head but was very persistent!--Mark Miller (talk) 21:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

It has been pleasure corresponding with you and a breath of fresh air after having spent part of today commenting one of those far to frequent incivility case that crop up on WP:AN and WP:ANI. -- PBS (talk) 22:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

My greatest appreciation is the fact that both you and the originating editor that requested the GA review are administrators with such calm demeanors. It gives me a great deal of faith in Misplaced Pages when so many people are freaking out over admin abusing their tools. Don't think I didn't notice that. ;)--Mark Miller (talk) 00:09, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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New vandalism by Medeis

Please see this diff -- Medeis is vandalizing the Marcia Wallace page and about to try to start an edit war. Please give him a lengthy block. Quis separabit? 22:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not an administrator and this does not appear to be vandalism at all but a continuing content dispute. Please refrain from accusing editors of vandalism when it does not fall within that scope. I strongly urge you to request assistance on the Dispute Resolution Notice Board.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:10, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween!

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AHH! I love it! Passing it on!--Mark Miller (talk) 20:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Miss Bono 20:22, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Party pooper

I thought I had a date there... Begoon  00:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Oops. It was an edit conflict and I don't know how I did that Begoon. Sorry for the "edit block". ;)--Mark Miller (talk) 00:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

It's all good. Thanks for joining me in the break from the usual crap. Appreciated. Begoon  00:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 October newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our champion, for the second year running, is Cwmhiraeth (submissions). Our final nine were as follows:

1. Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
2. Hawkeye7 (submissions)
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All those who reached the final win prizes, and prizes will also be going to the following participants:

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• Another Believer (submissions) wins the FL prize, for four featured lists in round 2, worth 180 points.
• Adam Cuerden (submissions) wins the FP prize, for 23 featured pictures in round 5, worth 805 point.
• Sven Manguard (submissions) wins the FPo prize, for 2 featured portals in round 3, worth 70 points.
• Hawkeye7 (submissions) wins the topic prize, for a 23-article featured topic in round 5, worth 230 points.
• Cwmhiraeth (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 79 did you know articles in round 5, worth 570 points.
• ThaddeusB (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 23 in the news articles in round 4, worth 270 points.
• Ed! (submissions) wins the GAR prize, for 24 good article reviews in round 1, worth 96 points.
• The judges are awarding the Oddball Barnstar to The C of E (submissions), for some curious contributions in earlier rounds.
• Finally, the judges are awarding Cwmhiraeth (submissions) the Geography Barnstar for her work on sea, now a featured article. This top-importance article was the highest-scoring this year; when it was promoted to FA status, Cwmhiraeth could claim 720 points.

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Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition. While it has been an excellent year, errors have opened up the judges' eyes to the need for a third judge, and it is with pleasure that we announce that experienced WikiCup participant Miyagawa will be acting as a judge from now on. We hope you will all join us in welcoming him to the team.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. Brainstorming and discussion remains open for how next year's competition will work, and straw polls will be opened by the judges soon. Those interested in friendly competition may also like to keep an eye on the stub contest, being organised by Casliber. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 01:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: U2 Concert

Hi mark, I don't know why I didn't see that message in my page until now. Sadly, I have never seen U2 in concert and I think I won't ever. That sucks, as much as seeing a concert behind the stage... even worse than that. Imagine how would not being able to see your favourite band in concert. That is awful, terrible, horrible, dreadful and... frightful... I am sure those words means the same but... it is how does it feel like for me. Again, thanks for your message. Miss Bono 13:25, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

I feel you there. Many a band I really wanted to see and never had the chance.--Mark Miller (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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