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:* '''Propose deleting''' ] - {{lc1|Children of Holocaust survivors}}<br /> :* '''Propose deleting''' ] - {{lc1|Children of Holocaust survivors}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' This category is categorizing people by a life experience of one/both of their parents - which is not something we normally do in WP. The main way we categorize people in WP is by what makes them notable (e.g. using a nationality-occupation category). We also categorize by some standard biographical characteristics (e.g. year of birth) - generally characteristics that place every person in one, and only one, category. This category is neither a reason-for-notability category nor a standard biographical characteristic category. This is the only "''Children of ... survivors''" category and we don't, AFAICS, have similar categories for children of survivors of pandemic/earthquake/war/terrorism. There are other "Children of <type of parent>" categories, but AFAICS those are all for where the parent is a monarch, president, pope etc - i.e. an occupation that makes the parent so notable that their children may inherit some notability. It may be argued that someone's parent(s) being Holocaust survivor(s) influenced the person (the subject of the WP article) - that may be of sufficient importance to be mentioned in the article text, but IMO it's not so important that it's a ] characteristic (and an exception from how we normally categorize); we don't, for example, categorize people by the religion or social status of their parents. For info: I've checked a sample of articles in this category and most don't mention this characteristic in the lead and all were in more appropriate categories. This category could be listified. Note: This category was previously ]. ] (]) 08:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC) :'''Nominator's rationale:''' This category is categorizing people by a life experience of one/both of their parents - which is not something we normally do in WP. The main way we categorize people in WP is by what makes them notable (e.g. using a nationality-occupation category). We also categorize by some standard biographical characteristics (e.g. year of birth) - generally characteristics that place every person in one, and only one, category. This category is neither a reason-for-notability category nor a standard biographical characteristic category. This is the only "''Children of ... survivors''" category and we don't, AFAICS, have similar categories for children of survivors of pandemic/earthquake/war/terrorism. There are other "Children of <type of parent>" categories, but AFAICS those are all for where the parent is a monarch, president, pope etc - i.e. an occupation that makes the parent so notable that their children may inherit some notability. It may be argued that someone's parent(s) being Holocaust survivor(s) influenced the person (the subject of the WP article) - that may be of sufficient importance to be mentioned in the article text, but IMO it's not so important that it's a ] characteristic (and an exception from how we normally categorize); we don't, for example, categorize people by the religion or social status of their parents. For info: I've checked a sample of articles in this category and most don't mention this characteristic in the lead and all were in more appropriate categories. This category could be listified. Note: This category was previously ]. ] (]) 08:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
*'''delete''' this is not defining of the people in question. Being a holocaust survivor certainly is defining and often a source of fame/notability, but being the children of holocaust survivors while obviously influential on ones life is not in of itself defining.--] (]) 16:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

==== Category:Introduced amphibians of Hawaii ==== ==== Category:Introduced amphibians of Hawaii ====
:* '''Propose deleting''' ] - {{lc1|Introduced amphibians of Hawaii}}<br /> :* '''Propose deleting''' ] - {{lc1|Introduced amphibians of Hawaii}}<br />

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January 25

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Separation barriers

Nominator's rationale: Sorry, let me try this again. This virtually unpopulated intermediate category serves no useful function -- other than WP:OC#SHAREDNAMES -- that I can see between the eponymous Israeli construction and other geopolitical or security walls and fences that appear in the many possible parent categories. (Including Category:Obstacles, nominated below.) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Progress templates

Nominator's rationale: Completely superseded by Category:Misplaced Pages progress templates. I already moved all of the templates in this to the other category. Not even sure why this was created. APerson (talk!) 14:54, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Guided missiles by conflict

Nominator's rationale: We don't generally categorize mass-produced items by which conflicts they have been used in (example CFD) as for some types it could lead to them being in dozens/hundreds of categories (and some may not be used in any conflict). Thus, these categories, which each just contain a category for the Cold War, should be renamed. It will then be possible to add corresponding subcats for the post-Cold War period. DexDor (talk) 14:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Examples of misuse of statistics

Nominator's rationale: This category appears to be being used to categorize articles in which there is some mention of the misuse of statistics (e.g. the Bicycle helmet article was in this category). For articles that are about misuse of statistics (i.e. for which it's a WP:DEFINING characteristic) there's Category:Misuse of statistics. DexDor (talk) 13:55, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Obstacles

Nominator's rationale: 4 (of 6) parent categories of this category are about road transport, but none of the pages in the category are about road transport - one is a redirect to an aviation article, one is about any obstacle (that page probably should be a disambiguation page or a redirect to Wiktionary), and two are about geopolitical separation barriers (not roads). The articles are in other (more suitable) categories. DexDor (talk) 13:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:French military firefighters

Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT - These categories each have just one member and it is very unlikely that we're going to get a lot of people notable for being French/Romanian military firefighters. There is no "Military firefighters by country" categorization scheme for this to be part of. DexDor (talk) 13:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Children of Holocaust survivors

Nominator's rationale: This category is categorizing people by a life experience of one/both of their parents - which is not something we normally do in WP. The main way we categorize people in WP is by what makes them notable (e.g. using a nationality-occupation category). We also categorize by some standard biographical characteristics (e.g. year of birth) - generally characteristics that place every person in one, and only one, category. This category is neither a reason-for-notability category nor a standard biographical characteristic category. This is the only "Children of ... survivors" category and we don't, AFAICS, have similar categories for children of survivors of pandemic/earthquake/war/terrorism. There are other "Children of <type of parent>" categories, but AFAICS those are all for where the parent is a monarch, president, pope etc - i.e. an occupation that makes the parent so notable that their children may inherit some notability. It may be argued that someone's parent(s) being Holocaust survivor(s) influenced the person (the subject of the WP article) - that may be of sufficient importance to be mentioned in the article text, but IMO it's not so important that it's a WP:DEFINING characteristic (and an exception from how we normally categorize); we don't, for example, categorize people by the religion or social status of their parents. For info: I've checked a sample of articles in this category and most don't mention this characteristic in the lead and all were in more appropriate categories. This category could be listified. Note: This category was previously discussed in 2011 resulting in a rename. DexDor (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • delete this is not defining of the people in question. Being a holocaust survivor certainly is defining and often a source of fame/notability, but being the children of holocaust survivors while obviously influential on ones life is not in of itself defining.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Introduced amphibians of Hawaii

Nominator's rationale: That an animal species (e.g. Cane toad or House Finch) has been introduced to somewhere is not a WP:DEFINING characteristic of that species. One article (Japanese White-eye in Hawaii) should be (and is) in "invasive" categories. DexDor (talk) 07:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Pseudohistorians

propose deleting: Category:Pseudohistorians

Rationale: I looked at a number of articles in this category and almost none that I found have any mention of pseudohistory. Instead this category seems to be used as an attack category for writers with theories that are outside the current dogma. I think inclusion here is essentially subjective, as all it would take is a single "mainstream" historian saying 'that book is bogus pseudohistory' to merit categorization here. Our own article admits that pseudohistory is a pejorative term, and we should avoid labeling people with pejorative categories. I can't think of a rename that would work here; a list of 'People whose historical theories are not accepted by mainstream academics' or something could work but this doesn't work as a category.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 04:26, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Uruguayan women jurists

Nominator's rationale: Merge. The categorization by gender is innecesary in this area of knowledge. Zerabat (talk) 02:40, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Terms for males

Propose deleting:
Nominator's rationale: The articles in these categories are about substantive topics, not about terminology. Note that the sibling Category:Terms for females was deleted at CFD 2013 September 16.
Editors may want to listify these categories before deletion. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose straight deletion. Many of these articles (e.g. Dude) do (at least in the lead) appear to be about a term rather than about the concept that the term refers to and hence should stay under Category:Slang etc. Similarly, many of the articles (e.g. Boy) should not be removed from Category:Males. The articles should be checked (e.g. fixing text per WP:REFERS and correcting categorization). DexDor (talk) 06:59, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


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