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Steve Stockman article

Dear editor: I notice that you have made several edits to the article on Steve Stockman that appear to indicate a lack of understanding of the Misplaced Pages policy on neutrality. The Houston Chronicle is a SOURCE. It is a major newspaper, and it is considered a reliable source. A newspaper, such as the Chronicle, is not required to be "neutral" or unbiased under the Misplaced Pages rules. Neutral Point of View (NPOV) in Misplaced Pages refers to how Misplaced Pages presents the information. Deleting material because you feel the newspaper is not neutral or is presenting on half the story, etc., is not your role as a Misplaced Pages editor -- even if your feeling is correct. Please review the policy. Famspear (talk) 23:45, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Here's the rule (see the page on Neutral Point of View):

"It is a frequent misunderstanding of the NPOV policy, often expressed by newbies, visitors, and outside critics, that articles must not contain any form of bias, hence their efforts to remove statements they perceive as biased. The NPOV policy does forbid the inclusion of editorial bias, but does not forbid properly sourced bias.....

Yours, Famspear (talk) 23:49, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

And this:

Misplaced Pages articles are required to present a neutral point of view. However, reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective....

It is probably not going to be appropriate for you as a Misplaced Pages editor to delete material from the Houston Chronicle merely because the reporting is biased. And it is probably not your place as a Misplaced Pages editor to decide whether the Chronicle has gotten the story right.

Also, some of material you have added to the article appears to approach cheerleading or soapboxing on behalf of, or in favor of, Steve Stockman. Please be careful about that. Famspear (talk) 23:55, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014

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• and Stockman has challenged Biden unlock the economic potential of the country by lifting the EPA[[http://stockman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/stockman-challenges-biden-to-lift-epa-
• job growth and encourages employment, Congressman Stockman has been pushing to keep power costs low[[http://science.house.gov/sites/republicans.science.house.gov/files/documents/Letters/121913_

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Hello, I'm Rinkle gorge. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Steve Stockman, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Rinkle gorge (talk) 22:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Steve Stockman. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Misplaced Pages this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Talkback

Rinkle gorge (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC) This is the link to the libel lawsuit filed in Houston against Senator Cornyns Super Pac http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/fort_bend/opinion/stockman-sues-cornyn-super-pac-for-false-statements/article_362af0fe-70b1-53cd-90f6-e90d4d3bbb6d.html. I am sending this to you as you had asked me to show you a proof earlier http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/fort_bend/opinion/stockman-sues-cornyn-super-pac-for-false-statements/article_362af0fe-70b1-53cd-90f6-e90d4d3bbb6d.html 1houstonian (talk) 21:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

If you're interested I put in a citation to the Dallas Morning News about the lawsuit. The previous source was WND, which isn't reliable.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Laylah and team having heyday converting Congressman Steve Stockman's page into a campaign page for Senator John Cornyn by removing Congressman Steve Stockman's sponsored resolutions, policy positions, interviews, his work towards creation of jobs and replacing them with out of malicious context quips to create a 1 sided campaign page for Congressman Stockman's opponent, and this is all being done while several Congressman Steve Stockmen's supporters from many parts in Texas been locked out to edit this page by Wikepedia1houstonian (talk) 04:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014

Thank you for trying to keep Misplaced Pages free of vandalism. However, one or more edits you labeled as vandalism, such as the edit at Steve Stockman, are not considered vandalism under Misplaced Pages policy. Misplaced Pages has a stricter definition of the word "vandalism" than common usage, and mislabeling edits as vandalism can discourage editors. Please read Misplaced Pages:NOTVAND for more information on what is and is not considered vandalism. Thank you. GabrielF (talk) 03:56, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I mentioned you on WP:BLPN

Here: Misplaced Pages:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Steve_Stockman. — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:31, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:LEGAL and then don't do it anymore, ok?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Please stop reverting and talk

And also read WP:3RR, which you're on the verge of violating.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:43, 1 February 2014 (UTC) Elected officials positions, bills he has sponsored are neither an advertisement or cheerleading. Please stop vandalizing Congressman Stockmans page. His positions are also not liked by many people. Please stop removing his positions and bills from the page. There are many voters who will not like his press releases or bills or support to open up drilling, get more building permits for Petrochemical plants etc.

Sure. Talk about it on the talk page of the article, so that all interested editors can participate.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

writing on a talk page

Hey, if you write your new comments at the bottom instead of interspersing them into other comments people will be able to understand your points much better. Also, if you end each comment with ~~~~ it'll sign your name to them, which will also help keep the conversation clear. The way you're doing it now makes it almost impossible to have a conversation.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 05:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Steve Stockman shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Hey, please undo your own revert, since it was your 4th. That's really not OK. Read the rules and talk before reverting, as we've been asking you to do. — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 05:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Can some editors block Laylah and GabrielF for overriding more than 10 people who are trying to stop them from vandalizing Steve Stockman page 1houstonian

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Blocked for edit warring at Steve Stockman

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ANI mention

ANI discussion mentioning you is here.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

1houstonian (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I request I be unblocked as per Wikepedia’s policy of neutrality as Wikepedia is a non-profit organization. Congressman Steve Stockman’s page cannot be converted into Senator John Cornyn’s election commercial by allowing biased editors to take out all the works Stockman has done during his term and describing his term with a few quips that the editors chose to use to maliciously describe his record. The biased Editors have removed all the records of Stockman’s working to create jobs including his interviews http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/3dcf1362#/3dcf1362/28 and many others. On Senator John Cornyn’s page you have not allowed anything negative and have removed any links to his actual record have also allowed references to his ==Political Positions== like a campaign commercial. If you want to be neutral you should allow ==Political Positions== for Congresman Steve Stockman. Also either allow negative quips on Senator John Cornyn to describe his record or remove the negative quips on Congressman Steve Stockman by biased editors. I again respectfully request you to unblock me and allow neutrality

Accept reason:

Block has already expired. "bias" or not, you may never edit war; period. You agreed to follow Misplaced Pages's rules, so please follow them or you will find yourself blocked again DP 10:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

SPI

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/1houstonian— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:33, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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Blocked

I've blocked this account for one week as it appears to have engaged in sockpuppetry per Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/1houstonian. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:58, 4 February 2014 (UTC) How many people are you going to block to allow free hand to vandalism of Steve Stockman page? 1houstonian I request to be unblocked. Firstly I do am not that tech savy to operate a sock puppet you have the ability to check the IP's on the people from different regions of the country try to stop vandalism on Congressman Steve Stockmans page. Accusing me of sockpuppetry is not going to solve the vandalism being done by GabrielF, Laylah and the team on Steve Stockmans page 1 houstonian

1houstonian (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

i am not engaging is socketpuppetry and additionally those who have been shut out were trying to post objective information about Rep. Stockman to cite his bills, resolutions, etc., while those editors that have NOT been shut out are writing subjective commentary, smears, and even outright untruths, one of which libel with a lawsuit filed for violating the law

Decline reason:

Alright. How many different ways can I find to decline this one? First, I think you were sockpuppeting. Second, above and beyond (or should that be, below and in front of?) that, you were edit warring and generally being tendentious. Third, making legal threats in an unblock request is a really bad idea. If you don't retract it, we'll probably have to cut off your talk page access. — Daniel Case (talk) 19:49, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

1houstonian (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am not engaged in sock puppetry, secondly this is not the forum to make legal threats so I would not make them on this forum, thirdly you have blocked all of us who were writing objectively factual and balanced with documented actual bills and interviews and editors that have NOT been shut out blocked are writing subjective commentary, smears, and even outright untruths, one of which libel with a lawsuit filed for violating the law 1houstonian (talk) 20:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I echo Daniel Case's statement above, and find it worrying that you're still throwing around veiled legal threats/copy-pasting your previous edit despite the aforementioned statement. As a result, I have extended your block indefinitely. Please carefully consider your next edit to the page - you are very close to losing talk page access. m.o.p 17:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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