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I am requesting a name change to Joy. --Shallot 12:16, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This page is now archived. --Joy (talk) 12:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit war in progress

Would you care to step in and halt the edit war at Vukovar (again)? I, of course, believe that the right state to freeze it in would be with the Serbian Cyrillic name in the lede. There was a discussion on this issue at WP:Croatia's talk page, and I believe the majority there was for some sort of inclusion of Cyrillic. Also, regardless of what WP:Croatia thinks, I think it is Just the Right Thing To Do for Misplaced Pages - if nationalists can keep minority languages out of the ledes and infoboxes of articles, they will, and they will point to articles like Vukovar and say, "Hey, they don't have it, this article doesn't need it either!" I'm getting that argument from Serbians about articles in Vojvodina in areas with Hungarian minorities. It's the principle of the thing. Brianyoumans (talk) 02:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

• Well, thanks for responding so quickly to my request for action. I'm hopeful that this will lead to some useful discussion. Brianyoumans (talk) 11:58, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
• I must say though that I think blocking Timbouctou was a bit hasty. He had not, as far as I can see, violated 3RR, and had contributed thoughtful discussion both at the Vukovar talk page and at WP:Croatia. Perhaps you could reconsider? Brianyoumans (talk) 12:50, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Given that the last block awarded to Timbouctou was some long time ago, and was only for 24 hours, and given also that s/he made only two edits to Vukovar in the last ten days - both of them reverts, conceded - do you think a one month block is a little excessive?--Anthony Bradbury 14:54, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Contested moves

Hi,

I contested your renaming at Template talk:Yugoslav factions in World War II and Template talk:People of the Yugoslav Front. Will you please be so kind to follow WP:RM/CM, revert your renaming and initiate RM procedure. Thank you and all the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. I did not know about WP:MOR. Thanks for AGF and pointing to it. I think that in cases like this, editors who have admin. privileges should use them instead to expect some other administrator to do it, based on the request that another editor has to post at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:44, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I thought I would not be able to rename it, just like in case of restoring the original name of Đeneral Janković which I requested at the AN (diff). Now I see at WP:MOR that it can be done if there was "just one line in the page history". I don't know if it was possible in case of Template:People of the Yugoslav Front (which was renamed to different name) but anyway, I will know how it works in future. Thanks again for pointing to WP:MOR.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:02, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

WikiLibrary

Hi! I was wondering if you might be interested in resources offered by the Misplaced Pages Library and I thought to drop you a note that they're granting access to various otherwise paid resources for free at Misplaced Pages:TWL.--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:18, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

RfC on Dalmatia

Dear user, there is an ongoing RfC on Dalmatia. You might want to participate. --Silvio1973 (talk) 14:37, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you have participated in. You are not required to participate, but you are invited and encouraged to help find a resolution. The thread is "Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Talk:Dalmatia".--Silvio1973 (talk) 08:20, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Đurđevdan uprising

Hello,

I noticed your edit at Đurđevdan uprising (diff) in which you misused article's talkpage to complain about my conduct although the purpose of article talk pages is to discuss the content of articles.

You wrote: * Overall, it is you who appear to have entirely sidestepped the spirit of my good-faith criticism and instead posted what is essentially an ad hominem rant. I'm not sure you realize just how far off all this anger is from the decorum prescribed by WP:ARBMAC.

Please be so kind not to continue with this kind of behavior in future. Also, don't warn people with WP:ARBMAC, that's simply pointless threatening, and is unlikely to lead to collegiate or positive results. You try sincerely to work things out, and if that fails you seek help, via ANI or another appropriate venue, but you don't threaten people with WP:ARBMAC. That shows a battleground mentality and casts doubts on your desire to actually work things out, as it reads as "my way or I'm telling!" Although you possess administrators' privileges your behavior here has been less than exemplary. Be done with your hostile behavior, and try to AGF and work with your fellow editors.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

RfC/U

Dear User as you know Director and Iexperience often difficulties in communication. For this reason I have filed a RfC/U to discuss about this problem. I must confess that I genuinely believe he deals with me with improper language (inaccaptable, regardeless of the difficulties of communication we experienced). I did not file an AN/I because I would like to have a large discussion about this issue. And may be I am the guilty one. If you want to partecipate to the dispute as a "User who tried and failed to resolve the dispute" or "Additional user endorsing this cause for concern") you can do at 1. To avoid the suspicion of canvassing I am contacting all the users involved in the previous and present dispute. If you think I forgote someone please tell me. Silvio1973 (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Use of very long blocks in a case in which you are involved

You may possibly remember that I recently declined an unblock request for a block you placed on Nado158. Following a request on my talk page to reconsider the request, I looked back at the case. The first thing that struck me was that the block was for a month, which seemed remarkably long under the circumstances. (Normally I check the block length when I assess an unblock request, and it was a mistake not to do so this time.) I decided to consult you, with a view to suggesting a shortening of the block. However, before doing so, I looked back at the discussions related to this issue, so that I would have a clearer view of the exact situation when I consulted you. I was astonished to see that you were one of the participants in the issue which led to the block, and indeed that you have a very extensive history of editing the article. Under the circumstances, you absolutely should not have been the one to place a block, as doing so was a clear violation of Misplaced Pages:Administrators#Involved admins, of Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy#Conflicts of interest, and of all generally understood standards: one does not act as judge and jury in a case to which one is a party. I looked again both at the history of the particular case and at the editor's history. There was absolutely no way that I could see an immediate block of a month as reasonable under the circumstances, which involved a tiny amount of edit warring. In view of the combination of the block being placed by an involved administrator and the grossly excessive length of the block, I have lifted the block. The editor was blocked for almost exactly two and a half days, which I regard as a much more appropriate length than a month. Next, I considered what to say to you about the matter. My inclination at first was to just post a message to you, pointing out that you should not have blocked an editor in a case in which you were involved. That would almost certainly have been what I would have done if the only issue had been the violation of WP:INVOLVED, but in view of the excessive length of the block as well, I thought I should check the relevant history further, to see if there was a need for further action. I found that you have recently blocked four editors for a month in connection with the same dispute in which you are involved. I also see that the appropriateness of at least one of those blocks has been questioned, and that the block length was reduced by another administrator, who made it quite clear in discussion that he thought the length had been inappropriate. You must therefore have been fully aware when you blocked Nado158 that the block was likely to be controversial.

I have thought very carefully about this. I have no doubt that you are acting in good faith, in an attempt to deal with problems with the editing of the article. However, an administrator who imposes multiple blocks in a case in which he or she is involved, rather than requesting a review by an independent administrator, is acting outside the accepted standards. If the blocks that administrator places are considered questionable by several editors, including at least one administrator, and if the blocking administrator continues to do the same after he or she has been made fully aware that the blocks are controversial, then that administrator has gone beyond the stage of needing to be gently told that he or she might reconsider. I have therefore blocked this account for three days, for abuse of administrative power. Note that this is about a tenth of the length of blocks you have placed for what seem to me to be far less serious offences. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 08:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)