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Improvements to Misplaced Pages

Please note that the above page created by you may fit the category of a user page rather than an article, as most of the article is your opinion (I also agree with many things in the article). You may want to consider recategorising the page. Please refer WP:NOT - "Misplaced Pages is not a publisher of original thought." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prashanthns (talk • contribs)

• The article was moved for the reasons given above and under the avoid self-references policy. In any case the question of expert/non-expert has been discussed ad-nauseam and will go on being discussed so. Hunt around - find existing discussions on this topic and contribute. As to your complaints about index and categories, they are simply wrong - Misplaced Pages has exhaustive index, category and search facilities. And if you really think they are inadequate - don't complain - help improve them! -- RHaworth 10:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

• I was thinking more of a chat forum such as this . When you open a gategory on your left, and follow up a link on the list which contain many comments, you'll find that there is a comprehensive and tidy tree for categories. Other point in that chat forum is that you can find the categories to browse very easily, they are the navigating machine. Suomi24 has no feature that lifts the old subjects with new messages to the top, so it's a flame and yell forum. There is no navigating machine on Wiki. Besides, others can't see this conversation because there is no navigating pages to display it, nor has any other page. Perhaps a front page with the navigating machine clearly located is necessairy? There is no point in taking part of some fragmentated discussion which has no indicators of it's activity nor it's parts accross the data base. Still I need the discussion in order to use Misplaced Pages. How do you see what's been modified? Is it an administrator privilege only? Teemu Ruskeepää 13:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • How do you see what's been modified? Is it an administrator privilege only? It most certainly is not an admin privilege - it is available to all. Be more specific about what's been modified. As I look at this page, I see tabs for "history", "what links here", "related changes", "user contributions". You have a watchlist - which is private to you. (And there is Special:Recentchanges - not very useful). Far from lacking links, navigation and history, Misplaced Pages is drowning in it. I really do not know what you are complaining about. Try telling me some specific topic that you want to discuss and I will show you how to find it. But remember Misplaced Pages is not, primarily, a forum: it is an encyclopedia. -- RHaworth 19:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

• I'm sorry. Perhaps the founder can see it in my textes. Teemu Ruskeepää 08:12, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Good. A specific request. The founder will never see it your textes if you just say perhaps here. But if you leave a message (with wikilinks to your textes) at User talk:Jimbo Wales then the founder will know that you would like him to see it your textes. -- RHaworth 17:47, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Destructive attitude of Wikipedians

Everyone should be able to participate in the debate. However, now the committed members express rejective, intolerant and malicious attitude towards some writers. They do not explain their point of view purely concentrating on the issues, but also imply that some people should not bother them with certain point of views. The critic of the page Talk:Anti-gravity is a good example of this. Objectively, I'm not taking a position towards the claims of the counter arguments. I'm just pointing out the offensive style of the committed judges of the Misplaced Pages. You should also explain why you repeatedly erase links from that page.

Much of the deletion falls into unverified speculative theory, or spam links. If you visit gravity control you will see it is a film maker site requesting film materials. -MegaHasher 19:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Teemu Ruskeepää 18:03, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Fidel Castro

Thanks so much for taking an interest in this article. Please continue! Little word changes do make a big difference in neutralizing the point of view. I'm having to research the facts, as much seems to be taken for granted in the article. KarenAnn 12:54, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the positive feedback. Teemu Ruskeepää 15:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Cuba

Hi Teemu, Thanks for your comments on the Cuba page, several editors are trying to address the problem by keeping the main page free from overtly controversial subjects. One of the proposed solutions is to create 2-3 aubarticles. They should be a Cuba/US relations article, whilst many of the issues discussed in your Dan Christianson link can be found in this new subarticle Cuba and democracy. I would recommend that the Christianson link be available as a link the foot of that page, but not sourced within.--Zleitzen 16:57, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Please discuss this here Teemu Ruskeepää 18:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Teemu, I think your "discussion tree", though confusing at times - actually helps reduce tensions on the talk pages. At first I wasn't keen, but you may have hit upon a genius way to lessen problems of excessive "noise" on the Cuban article. --Zleitzen 07:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Zleitzen! "The quality of life is equal to the posture of one's home", or something. Teemu Ruskeepää 11:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Teemu, I think the idea of seperate sections on the talk page has value and a future at wikipedia - however, your wider experiments with other aspects of the talk page may be too complicated for the Castro page. You may like to try it on a less controversial topic with less users.--Zleitzen 15:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes but I could try it on the "intro" and leave the rest of the discussion optional. Bruce Hallman and the other one don't have any right to walk over the rest of us and hope that we won't return to demand our wishes. Teemu Ruskeepää 15:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Teemu, your discussion tree experiment does not have consensus. Please allow users to continue editing comments in a way they find the easiest and most comfortable. Again, I recommend you experiment on a less controversial page with fewer users. --Zleitzen 16:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Please do not relocate users comments on the Fidel Castro page again Teemu. Almost all users have expressed disquiet about your methods and would like to be left to use the page chronologically. You do not have consensus on this, and I am becoming increasingly concerned about your methods and your responses, notably this comment "I know I have seen this endogamy arrogance of the anglicans before in the finnish rugby league. Why don't you grow up, people". If you continue to move comments, you may find that you will blocked from editing on that or other pages where you have been relocating users comments. Thank you. --Zleitzen 09:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I object the wording of you argument. By emphasizing how many people disagree (according to you), you can't suggest that I'm acting against other people's will. The thing has not been discussed yet. That is a sneaky strike of misleading the ignorent. You are even trying that one on the vote you created at Talk:Fidel_Castro

Please do not add anymore Move under category tree sections to the feet of talk page sections on Fidel Castro. This is over burdening the talk page with non content material and ultimately impeding the editing process. Your methods do not have consensus, will not be enacted and thus I recommend that you should refrain from further attempts to pursue this experiment. --Zleitzen 07:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attacks

Please do not refer to another user as an "internet troll" as you have here to user Mensch without justification. Such comments could be perceived as a personal attack are not welcome. --Zleitzen 08:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Favor

It appears that most of those participating in the discussion page for Fidel Castro do not want to have the talk page altered to a new format. I'm not saying that your format is the wrong thing to do or the right thing to do, just that enough of them are unhappy with it that they may file an Rfc...which is a long and usually tedious affair. I saw another comment above that perhaps you should try this experiment on another talk page that is not as active as the Fidel castro one is...that would be my recommendation. Any questions I can answer, never hesitate to ask me...thanks!--MONGO 14:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)