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: Note that the , and the ban violation took place on July 24. While to sound foreign and comment on exactly THAT (?!!) thread may not say anything about the subject of the topic ban, it still demonstrates an attempt to edit while not logged in, in the area (that thread) of the topic ban. -- ] (]) 16:06, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | : Note that the , and the ban violation took place on July 24. While to sound foreign and comment on exactly THAT (?!!) thread may not say anything about the subject of the topic ban, it still demonstrates an attempt to edit while not logged in, in the area (that thread) of the topic ban. -- ] (]) 16:06, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
*This whole thing seems overkill to me. It is patently obvious that he was the San Antonio IPs, and if there is any doubt about it, in his unblock request. That Technophant had a previous account is also not controversial... he made it clear that it was a clean start account from the beginning, and aside from what appears to have been a recent sloppy but temporary re-activation of the account with a really sloppy edit there hasn't been a problem that I can see. <p>The other part of the case (trying to connect Technophant to Klocek) seems weak to me. If I had a nickel for everyone who edit warred on Acupuncture, removed sourced material, or didn't like QuackWatch as a source... Anyway, it looks like Technophant has requested a CU himself to clear his name, but the CU won't connect him to any IPs on principle, which is why this seems to be much ado about nothing. <span style="font-family:times; text-shadow: 0 0 .2em #7af">~] <small>(])</small></span> 00:14, 28 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Klocek/Archive.
27 July 2014
– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Klocek (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Technophant (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Stillwaterising (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 71.40.3.92 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 75.92.62.0 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- See this edit by the Klocek sock account deleting sourced text from the Nature source against consensus.
- See this edit by Technophant deleting sourced text from the Quackwatch source against consensus. Technophant was against using the Quackwatch source. The confirmed sock Ricflairsbutt was also against using the Quackwatch source.
- Technophant deleted text on July 17, 2014 but previously on September 12, 2012 Stillwaterising deleted the same sentence (Similarly, no research has established any consistent anatomical structure or function for either acupuncture points or meridians.). I asked Technophant if he deleted the sentence accidentally but rather than collaborate he banned me from his talk page.
- Technophant reported User:Jmh649 to 3RR. The confirmed sock Milliongoldcoinpoint also reported User:Jmh649 to 3RR. Both reports were not a 3RR violation.
- Technophant violated 3RR at acupuncture. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive251#User:Technophant reported by User:Jmh649 .28Result: Protected.29. Klocek also violated 3RR at acupuncture. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive246#User:Klocek reported by User:Jmh649 .28Result: Blocked.29.
- Technophant added the POV tag to the acupuncture article. Ricflairsbutt also added the POV tag to the acupuncture article.
- The topic ban was on July 21. Stillwaterising deleted the connection to the account Technophant and he rejoined the WikiProject Medicine on July 23. He then unjoined the project with the account Technophant on July 24.
- Although Technophant admitted he is Stillwaterising (only after I discovered there was a connection to Stillwaterising) I still think we should check for socking because there is evidence of quacking. See the additional evidence I recently connected together below with the IP socks from Texas.
- Stillwaterising is from San Antonio, Texas according to this edit. The previous IP sock who made an interleaving edit is also from Texas. See http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/99.35.189.129
- The edit by the IP appears to be IP socking. The IP is also from Texas. See http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/71.40.3.92
- The IP 71.40.3.92 calls User:BullRangifer a "pit bulldog" at a talk page.
- It was odd the IP 71.40.3.92 said "I'm new to this debate, however there seems to be a pattern."
- Technophant calls BullRangifer "The Pit Bull".
- A mysterious IP 75.92.62.0 makes a very feeble attempt to seem foreign on the same talk page and the IP is also from Texas. See http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/75.92.62.0
- Technophant claimed "I made my initial contribution to Acupuncture," among other things. That was not his initial contribution. We now know he was previously editing acupuncture with the account Stillwaterising as far back as 2010.
Thoughts? QuackGuru (talk) 05:55, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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I endorse QG's thorough report. There is pretty clear evidence of disruption, uncollaborative spirit, and deceptive sockpuppetry.
Technophant has just been indefinitely blocked for using IPs to evade his topic ban, but this SPI still needs attention, especially to look for sleepers, since we can't trust this user at all; at the same time as he was protesting that he had never used socks, he was logging out to make nasty comments! That's pretty audacious. -- Brangifer (talk) 06:21, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note that the topic ban was made on July 21, and the IP socking ban violation took place on July 24. While this pathetic attempt to sound foreign and comment on exactly THAT (?!!) thread may not say anything about the subject of the topic ban, it still demonstrates an attempt to edit while not logged in, in the area (that thread) of the topic ban. -- Brangifer (talk) 16:06, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- This whole thing seems overkill to me. It is patently obvious that he was the San Antonio IPs, and if there is any doubt about it, he admitted it here in his unblock request. That Technophant had a previous account is also not controversial... he made it clear that it was a clean start account from the beginning, and aside from what appears to have been a recent sloppy but temporary re-activation of the account with a really sloppy edit here there hasn't been a problem that I can see.
The other part of the case (trying to connect Technophant to Klocek) seems weak to me. If I had a nickel for everyone who edit warred on Acupuncture, removed sourced material, or didn't like QuackWatch as a source... Anyway, it looks like Technophant has requested a CU himself to clear his name, but the CU won't connect him to any IPs on principle, which is why this seems to be much ado about nothing. ~Adjwilley (talk) 00:14, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Actually, the IP addresses aren't just from Texas, they geolocate to San Antonio. I feel comfortable in the blocks based on that. Given the consistent and persistent disruptive editing and sockpuppeting in the alternative medicine articles, I think a sweep looking for other accounts with a similar patter of pro-alt medicine cheerleading editing from San Antonio is warranted.—Kww(talk) 16:16, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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