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| ] (]) 23:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == RE: ] == | |||
| You seem to have a somewhat lack of understanding of ''the IP''. Would you like to communicate on it further, or not? It is difficult judge emotions on a computer screen. ] (]) 23:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes! Please tell me what you think and how you feel and why you do the things you do. ] (]) 11:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::When I get more time (hopefully later this evening) I will communicate with you. | |||
| ::If you can tolerate a great deal of information at once, in preparation for our communication; see my pre-2014 efforts Notes at . You will also see a rough notepad for this discusssion stored within this ''User_talk'''s history. ] (]) 21:18, 7 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'll be from a differnet IP. ] (]) 23:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::To be honest, I can't tolerate a great deal of information. Millions of diffs and links aren't going to help me understand. I really want to know how your involvement in Misplaced Pages is helpful in your mind. How are you a force for good? Please, speak philosophically and ideologically, etc. Thank you. ] (]) 01:05, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Okay. I see the 800+ links. Are you saying that Climate change exists and that there is an effort to whitewash Misplaced Pages articles and you are dedicated to countering that? Please summarize what you are doing and why. Then, let's go from there. Cheers, ] (]) 01:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::The Notes were for me, really. They were captured before ] was obliterated, including audit trails. | |||
| ::::I am not saying "there is an effort to whitewash" (there is authentic objective evidence of that (not from me), along with understandable self-interest (also for ])). So what? I am not "dedicated to countering that". I would love to be free of the AR goon squad; so I could better contribute to wp appropriately and easily. | |||
| ::::I started editing wp in the late summer of 2009, after a few years of increasingly utilizing it (free "knowledge", great!). Immediately after my naïve edit attempts (I learn slowly, but I learn well), User:Arthur Rubin ("AR", I'll assume as he says he is "Arthur Rubin" (wp article) per AR's statement, for this discussion) belligerently deleted my efforts; then AR proceeded to stalk me as I attempted to improve my editing skills. Why!? My first thoughts were, it's the internet, all-kinds of sketchy individuals; so what, wp had some community guidelines so this person's behavior will be weeded-out? Right? Well, no. It got even worse. I attempted to avoid, I attempted to make jokes (friends?), I attempted to reason; then with a history (audit trails) I attempted to understand motivations. That was four and 3/4 years ago. What I first guessed naïvely was a misunderstanding was worse. AR seemed obsessed with exterminating any edit I made, no plausible Edit Summary needed. He goaded me with insults; using extremist wording. (What is it they say ]?) A few half-hearted uneasy attempts were made by other editors to dissuade AR's onslaught over the years, with less than healthy results. In fact, AR gained a follower (NewsAndEventsGuy, "NEG") and some occasional backers (Vsmith) and some punctuated situational backers (JamesBWatson), among other lurkers. They attempted to find where I was physically located, when I ate, whether I was on vacation, what my financial situation was, what my career path has been; basically how-to-get-me (I thought about contacting policing services, but what would they do; nothing). He even attempted to get the entire state of Michigan's internet blocked from accessing Misplaced Pages. He inquired about ] (for himself). He stated he wanted to get Wikimedia's servers to be based in the U.S.. | |||
| ::::I failed, and the way I proceeded was the only way I could see to continue to give-back to "the Project"; waiting, hoping things would get better (or was/is wp doomed?) Even AR admits 97.87.29.188 was blocked for a trivial reason unrelated to me. And he re-blocked that IP. Then that IP was blocked on all languages, and the User who did it wouldn't discuss it, and then that IP was blocked from talking to anyone (last I check). Silenced. I could only suspect "goon" involvement there. Does wp have equal and just processes, or are its processes a thumb on its own scales of justice. My motivations are not ] (I don't belong to any organization and I'm nonpartisan for example), but what I do expect is the wp "community" to be just to volunteers who make positive contributions. My understanding is "the Project" is to make an up-to-date accurate encyclopedia. Not easy to do with mob mentalities and any-sketchy-individual/group-with-less-than-credible-authority-on-the-topic(s) can edit; let alone "incentivized" ones. | |||
| ::::Well, I should take a breath. Good luck to you and best wishes to the health of the community. ] (]) 03:33, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
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