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He called me "lazy" slandered me, and when I asked him to stop being so abusive, he said I was making "bad faith" commenmts. He asumes I'm trying to destroy the ] article. I said it was a biased article, and when I repost the weasel terms, he ignores it and demands to know why the good guys had to ``back me into the corner`` to get the info out of me. -- ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 17:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC) He called me "lazy" slandered me, and when I asked him to stop being so abusive, he said I was making "bad faith" commenmts. He asumes I'm trying to destroy the ] article. I said it was a biased article, and when I repost the weasel terms, he ignores it and demands to know why the good guys had to ``back me into the corner`` to get the info out of me. -- ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 17:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
:Please provide specific diffs showing this as TheFarix has a very large number of edits. ···]<sup>] · <small>] <font color="darkblue">to</font> ]]o]</small></sup> 16:21, 29 August 2006 (UTC) :Please provide specific diffs showing this as TheFarix has a very large number of edits. ···]<sup>] · <small>] <font color="darkblue">to</font> ]]o]</small></sup> 16:21, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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I am an ex-member of an Eastern-based cult organization called the Brahma Kumaris that teaches and believes in World Destruction by Nuclear Holocaust, the incarnation of God into their founder, that they are the only true messangers, that they and they alone will inherit heaven on earth etc, etc etc. All the usual stuff. I have been documenting the group on the Misplaced Pages as a matter of public interest. Under the protection granted for personal attack under relgious persecution I wouldike to ask to have comments made and this Brahma Kumari teacher stopped from making them. He has gone on a campaign of exposure cross posting on public forums for recovering members attempting to expose and connect my IP address with administrator or contributor of it and publishing email on the Misplaced Pages in an unsubstantiate manner. Strictly speaking, I have not issue the pa shortcut but I did write extensive about personal attacks, explain why and asking him to remove all his offending and revealing statments. I have not removed any offending statements for fear of criticism but consider that I am under a "shoot the messanger" type attack where the cult cannot kill the message. I have gone out of my way to provide clear referencable citations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University#Personal_Attacks_and_NPOV
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72855765

He also uses a number of IP address including latterly ]

He seems to have enrolled an ally ] who goes on to call me a " most bitter and twisted element ".
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72892492

Thank you. ] 05:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


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    TheFarix (talk · contribs)

    He called me "lazy" slandered me, and when I asked him to stop being so abusive, he said I was making "bad faith" commenmts. He asumes I'm trying to destroy the Anime article. I said it was a biased article, and when I repost the weasel terms, he ignores it and demands to know why the good guys had to ``back me into the corner`` to get the info out of me. -- Selmo 17:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

    Please provide specific diffs showing this as TheFarix has a very large number of edits. ···日本穣 16:21, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

    Riveros11

    I am an ex-member of an Eastern-based cult organization called the Brahma Kumaris that teaches and believes in World Destruction by Nuclear Holocaust, the incarnation of God into their founder, that they are the only true messangers, that they and they alone will inherit heaven on earth etc, etc etc. All the usual stuff. I have been documenting the group on the Misplaced Pages as a matter of public interest. Under the protection granted for personal attack under relgious persecution I wouldike to ask to have comments made and this Brahma Kumari teacher stopped from making them. He has gone on a campaign of exposure cross posting on public forums for recovering members attempting to expose and connect my IP address with administrator or contributor of it and publishing email on the Misplaced Pages in an unsubstantiate manner. Strictly speaking, I have not issue the pa shortcut but I did write extensive about personal attacks, explain why and asking him to remove all his offending and revealing statments. I have not removed any offending statements for fear of criticism but consider that I am under a "shoot the messanger" type attack where the cult cannot kill the message. I have gone out of my way to provide clear referencable citations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University#Personal_Attacks_and_NPOV http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72855765

    He also uses a number of IP address including latterly 72.91.28.223

    He seems to have enrolled an ally searchin man who goes on to call me a " most bitter and twisted element ".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72892492

    Thank you. 195.82.106.244 05:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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    Holywarrior (talk · contribs)

    This is the first time I am making a complaint so please excuse if you feel it is unwarranted. However, I am being hounded by this user who keeps insisting that I am a "sockpuppet" of another user User:Subhash bose whom I do know personally. If you see the irc chat session that I had with wikipedia admins and this user:

    http://pastebin.ca/149764

    It is obvious that I am not his sockpuppet. However, this user has been trying to put POV edits in Kancha Ilaiah article and has been using this issue to attack me and other editors. Does this constitute a personal attack by wikipedia standards, or perhaps an assumption of bad faith (a violation of WP:AGF)? If so, then kindly intervene. In either case, please notify me in my talk page if I have inadvertently done anything bad. I am still very new to wikipedia. Hkelkar 10:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

    Note: Holywarrior has engaged in quite a few more personal attacks many times. This is a very racist comment made by him . He also harrassed Hkelkar . He vandalized our comments here and here calling them "nonsense" . He tried to discredit me on a talk page when I gave a friedly warning to another user . Also him and another user, conspired to get me banned while attacking me here . He also made an RfC against me which wasted time and was used purely for harrassment here (note: this is a copy of the RfC before it was deleted). Holywarrior has been warned twice by meBakaman Bakatalk 16:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

    The first link given was not a comment made by him, it was restored by him and it dates from June too. Your next link shows an insertion of a suspected sockpuppet notice, which is not harassment. There was no conspiracy to get you banned, and filing an RfC, or an attempt to do so is not harassment. BhaiSaab 23:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
    It is harrassment. But of course you conspired with him to get me blocked, so your comments have to be taken with a grain of salt. Established users and a couple of admin all stated the RfC was just harrassment (Blnguyen, Gizza, Nobleeagle, Rayfield, Rama's Arrow). Bakaman Bakatalk 00:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    Please point out where any of those editors said it was harassment. I think it's your misrepresentational comments that need to be taken with a grain of salt, considering I never edited the RfC page. BhaiSaab 00:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    Why don't you read it? Nobleeagle, D-boy, and Rayfield all voted for the side that censured Holywarrior. You supported him, and still conspired to get me blocked. Blnguyen , Gizza and Rayfield all stated that it was unnecessary while mediation was going on. "Misrepresentational comments" - What a joke. Bakaman Bakatalk 00:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    Something that is unnecessary is not necessarily harassment. BhaiSaab 00:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    Majority stated it was harrassment. Wiki is a democracy. Majority rules. Anyway, this notice is on hold because Holywarrior got blocked for other issues.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:13, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    You'll have to prove that a "majority" stated it was harrassment with diffs. BhaiSaab 00:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    I already made a copy of the RfC. I guess that seeing your tag team buddy get blocked for violating NPA and CIVIL hurts but he's getting what he deserves for filing an RfC for pure harrassment. User Rama's arrow said it was "baseless" and "frivolous" while if you look at the RfC you would see 4 people voted "harrassment" while 3 voted "its not the right time for this RfC while mediation is going on". Of course it seems somebody does not want to show AGF. (In fact if you look in the history, I only created the page, and made no edits).Bakaman Bakatalk 14:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

    Update: He has been blocked 25 hours now for violating 3RR. The blocking admin sould bide his/her time before blocking.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


    RESPOSE---->

    1.Rfc was filed by me ,but that was strictly according to the procedures.i was authorised to sign it with 5 tides (which I did),and every body else had to sign 1 column only of which Baka and others made mockery of by spreading their comments everywhere.Infact blnguyen has clarified about it and may be approached again regarding this.It was his appeal which made others not pursue the matter otherwise it may not have been failure which baka alleges.Baka must atleast thank blnguyen for saving his face. 2.regarding Sockpuppetry case Bakas socks were idemntified by WP:RFCU,baka should forward a copy of that too.I had appealed for one and they identified 2. 3.Regarding Hkelkar,I am not the person who had inserted his name in checkuser though I had asked for it as comment because I had reasons for that.Holy|Warrior 17:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

    You mean the accounts made one month ago? Kindly tell me how those accounts from my IP were "ban evading" or "Abusive" or even "socks" if they were used for one day and never used again? They can't even be considered socks because they were not used for any purpose and were discarded.

    Regarding the RfC, there was no "spreading of comments". Blnguyen, Gizza, Nobleeagle, Rayfield, D-boy, and Rama's arrow saw through it. Some of the "diffs" did not even pertain to me, and it was dismissed as "frivolous".

    You had reasons to make Hkelkar's charges, because he caught you vandalizing the page Kancha IlaiahBakaman Bakatalk 17:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

    I will adhere to what Blnguyen suggested --- No comments on Bakatalk.Holywarrior 06:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

    Freiheit94 (talk · contribs)

    The contributions of Freiheit94 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) are nothing but vandalism, trolling and ad homs. He was repeatedly warned at his talk page and was reverted by a number of editors. I temp. blocked him, but did not ban completely only because the attacks were directed at me: , , , . This daily abuse has to stop. ←Humus sapiens 11:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

    He doesn't seem to have done anthing terrible since the temp-block was lifted. I will monitor his edits and watch for offenses like the ones cited above. Andrew Levine 19:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

    84.43.29.130 (talk · contribs)

    I noticed that this user has been warned dozens of times for vandalism and making personal attacks: , yet is not blocked: , , e.t.c... ad nauseam Yandman 12:58, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

    Blocked only anon contribs only for a long time - couldn't find a single good edit in all the cursing and personal attacks.Shell 16:26, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

    74.62.251.246 (talk · contribs)

    Warned a couple of times about personal attacks, but continues; just making sure he's kept under control. , ; browse most of his recent talk-related contribs. ~ PseudoSudo 22:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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