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It would be better to state that the aversion is to laboratory and industrial chemicals, a does not refer to naturally occurring chemicals. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> It would be better to state that the aversion is to laboratory and industrial chemicals, a does not refer to naturally occurring chemicals. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I think the first paragraph makes it quite clear that the issue relates to "synthetic chemicals". Can you suggest an alternate wording that would make it clearer for you? -- ] (]) 14:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC) :I think the first paragraph makes it quite clear that the issue relates to "synthetic chemicals". Can you suggest an alternate wording that would make it clearer for you? -- ] (]) 14:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

== Fringe theory // POV issues ==

This article is presented as psychology but it's not such. Or else it's fringe in that area. It's certainly not a psychological diagnosis that's reflected in the general literature ''at all'' but rather it's a pseudoscientific diagnosis presented by a very tiny group of people who have an agenda -- the very definition of the worst of fringe. ] (]) 12:12, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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Information addition, restructuring, etc.

Hello! I made a few edits. Added a source for education reducing chemophobia, and added another bit of Francl's writing (I will probably relocate this Francl piece in a later edit). I intend on making several more changes, including but not limited to the addition of as many recent, peer-edited sources as I have access to. Clearly there has been some extensive argument over what should and should not be in this article. If anybody takes issue with my edits, I would be happy to discuss them. Elpardack (talk) 19:10, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

P.S. - Probably the biggest change I intend on making is the shift of the definition. There seems to be very little (one IUPAC citation) support for Chemophobia as a clinical disease or treatable phobia (no studies treating people for medical phobia with classic characteristics of a phobia) Whereas there are countless news and editorial articles (Google->Chemophobia) and many peer-reviewed journal articles (I will provide citations on request but cannot be bothered to do so at the moment) documenting a pattern of social aversion to synthetic chemistry, agrichemicals, additives, etc.. I will also likely be attempting to get Chemophobia added to the phobia page under 'Terms for Prejudice.' Again, I welcome any input. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elpardack (talkcontribs) 04:44, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Final notes

I will be progressively submitting my edits to the article starting now, starting from the top down. Elpardack (talk) 18:06, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

POV problems

There are numerous comments on the talk page here about POV issues with this article and yet there is no POV tag. Why is that? 24.194.19.74 (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Because they relate to an old version of the article (which was completely different 5 years ago, when the POV comments you commended in your last edit were made). It's currently nice & neutral. Alexbrn (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
I disagree. I think it's very much not neutral but rather presents a minority viewpoint in Wikivoice. SageRad (talk) 11:38, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Introduction

The Misplaced Pages page for "Chemical" states that: "A chemical substance (also called a pure substance) is defined as "any material with a definite chemical composition", and includes common substances such as water.

So, saying that chemophobia is an irrational aversion to chemicals is the same as saying that it is an aversion to any material with a definite chemical composition, including water.

It would be better to state that the aversion is to laboratory and industrial chemicals, a does not refer to naturally occurring chemicals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.98.174.236 (talk) 13:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I think the first paragraph makes it quite clear that the issue relates to "synthetic chemicals". Can you suggest an alternate wording that would make it clearer for you? -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Fringe theory // POV issues

This article is presented as psychology but it's not such. Or else it's fringe in that area. It's certainly not a psychological diagnosis that's reflected in the general literature at all but rather it's a pseudoscientific diagnosis presented by a very tiny group of people who have an agenda -- the very definition of the worst of fringe. SageRad (talk) 12:12, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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