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Merge Proposal

Hi there!

Rembrandt research in Australia

Hello BrownHairedGirl,

I am researching a Rembrandt that may have been in the collection of Dr John Radcliffe 17th century inherited down to Dr J R Radcliffe 19th -20th century. Rembrandt was exhibited title Christ raising the daughter of Jarius in a major exhibition in Birmingham Art Gallery and Museum 1934 loaned by Dr JR Radciffe . I am attempting to link the two. Very difficult. Note The painting has been located in Australia with exhibition label,also no record of where the work is. I feel it was in the collection of Dr J Radcliffe as he did collect Rembrants work. For your interest. Regards Bryan Collie

Nikola Kicev

can you change my height in my bio :) 191 cm

Film festivals

You're quite welcome! I happened to be on Misplaced Pages, clicking around not doing anything in particular, when I got the notification that you'd pinged me, so I just went right ahead with it. Luckily, there weren't very many articles that actually had to be upmerged at all — the vast majority were either already subcategorized appropriately by state, province or city, or had never actually been removed from the national-level category on WP:CATDIFFUSE grounds, so in most cases it was just a straightforward removal. Bearcat (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Category Barnstar
		A barnstar well deserved for closing about 100 CfD discussions in two days. Wow! Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, Marcocapelle. That's v kind of you.

I had been looking for weeks at the huge and growing backlog, and decided that only a blitzkrieg approach would have any chance of clearing it. There is still some way to go, but I have some hope now that it might be possible to actually clear the backlog.

Bless @Anomie for the bot which maintains Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Old unclosed discussions. That list is invaluable in identifying what needs to be done.

Now ... when can we can we persuade you to accept a nomination for adminship? You have already been doing an admin job at CfD for at least a year. I had some doubts about your judgements 18 months ago, but I can't fault them since, so it seems daft that you don't have the tools for the job which you do so well. Please will you say yes? Please please please please please please please? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

cambodian

hi hello i w want to know if u are cambodian coz i seee u are write a article list of films cambodian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:e35:8b69:51e0:282b:8c38:7eea:729b (talk • contribs) 17:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I am not Cambodian , and I didn't write a list of Cambodian films . --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:12, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Is BHG Cambodian? I nominate that for the Misplaced Pages question of the day 10 January 2018....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:19, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta presenters has been nominated for discussion

Category:RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta presenters, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Davey2010 22:19, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

French senator categories

Thank you for the barnstar on the lists and categorization of French senators. That turned out to be a bigger job than I expected. Sort of depressing too. Most of the list entries are redlinks, most of the articles are stubs, and many of the stubs are out of date, presumably abandoned by their authors. I have an uncomfortable feeling that the acceptable/poor article ratio is deteriorating.

Question: is there a way to check that all the articles categorized as "senators of " are also categorized as "French Senators of the Republic", and vice-versa? Aymatth2 (talk) 15:57, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

If you do not know of a way, do you know someone who might? It seems like a fairly standard sanity check: all French senators after 1875 must be senator of a department and senator during one of the republics. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Aymatth2: please post some links to the categs you are referring to. Then I'll show you how it can be done. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Members of the Senate (France) by department has 112 subcategories like Category:Senators of Yonne, where Yonne is a department in France. Each contains articles like Hippolyte Ribière that should also be in at least one of Category:French Senators of the Third Republic, Category:French Senators of the Fourth Republic or Category:French Senators of the Fifth Republic. The question is how to find all articles in the 112 department categories that are not in any of the three "French Senators of the nth Republic" categories, and how to find all articles in the "French Senators of the nth Republic" categories that are not in any of the 112 department categories. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 21:17, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Aymatth2: thanks for the links. Now the magic of Petscan, the categorisers magic wand:

French Senators not in a Category:Members of the Senate (France) by department or its subcats:

• French Senators of the Third Republic: 77
• French Senators of the Fourth Republic: 53
• French Senators of the Fifth Republic: 61

Petscan is at https://petscan.wmflabs.org. I love it! And have it as a button on my broswer's menu bar.

Basic usage is fairly simple. The main pitfall is that you need to type the categ names, with 100% accuracy. Copying and pasting the categ title from the categ page will not work, because it includes hidden formatting codes which Petscan assumes are part of the categ name.

Hope this helps. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:36, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks - that is what I was looking for. It shows up my failure to account for the 116 "inamovible" senators, who did not belong to any department, senators for some defunct colonies who should be listed, and also several errors. I can tweak the searches. That is great.

For copy/paste, I always have TextPad open, a similar text editor to Windows Notepad. Copy/paste into Textpad, then copy/paste from there to another window, removes any formatting characters. Thanks again, Aymatth2 (talk) 23:49, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Frank stagg burial place

Hello Frank Stagg is buried in the Republican plot in Ballina Co.Mayo, alongside fellow Mayoman and hungerstriker, Michael Gaughan who died from forcefeeding a year or so prior to Frank Stagg. The wiki entry has his burial place in Belfast. This is incorrect.Tomasquinn12 (talk) 20:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Frank Stagg (Irish republican)#Funeral says "His body was taken to Ballina and buried near the family plot. In order to prevent the body being disinterred and reburied by republicans, the grave was covered with concrete. In November 1977, a group of republicans tunnelled under the concrete to recover the coffin under cover of darkness and reburied it in the republican plot.".

@Tomasquinn12: What page are you referring to? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Categories, Camille Claudel

Hello, and happy Old New Year's Eve! I guess I'm not understanding the removal of category Camille Claudel from a few pages because of misuse of eponcat. The Musee Rodin has an entire room exhibiting her work, so that seemed a directly related category. Then those of two closely related people, her brother Paul Claudel and of course her lover and associate Rodin himself. If you have a minute can you explain the misuse. Thanks, and lift a glass high come midnight. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:55, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Randy Kryn, and thanks for your v friendly msg.

Per WP:EPCATPERS, eponymous categories for people are supposed to be used for articles directly related to that person. That would include such items as lists of her work books about her, etc. That does not include Paul Claudel, Musee Rodin etc, which are about other topics that involve Camille, i.e. indirectly related. That is why I removed them from Category:Camille Claudel.

Hope this helps. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, yes. Seems a bit restrictive, as they are all closely related, but tis the way of the Misplaced Pages world. I only found out about Claudel in June, and what a fascinating story and life, in equal parts glory and sadness. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, @Randy Kryn, it is restrictive, but necessarily so. Otherwise eponcats fill up with lots of stuff, and cause category clutter on other articles.

I am not a fine arts fan, so had never heard of her until today. It is indeed a sad story; her brother and mother behaved appallingly. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

Don't want to take your time up by a long discussion (although am glad to have it, writing about Claudel is an enjoyable topic), but I want to say I'm happy to have introduced her to you. She is, and is becoming more recognized as, one of the greatest sculptors of her era, and apparently either inspired or directly initiated many of Rodin's most famous pieces. A woman artist of the period couldn't (or at least it was scandalized) portray erotic poses themselves, so Rodin, with her influence, did so. I should get around to adding to a gallery on the page. Would be nice to see a full film about her in English, with major actors...and I assume someday that will occur (will store my popcorn in a freezer bag waiting for that viewing). It will be a career-film for an actress, much as Madonna was born to play Evita. Long comment shorter, thanks again for the clarification on the categories. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:56, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Like your views on gender neutral language

I like writing to talk of police officers, firefighters, actors and people. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 14:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi @OnBeyondZebrax

That's a bit of a generialised question. Any special reason for asking me, now?

In general, I'm in strongly favour of it. However, it is usually not appropriate when the context involves a specific reference to gender.

So, "six police officers arrived at the crime scene"

... but "Jones was the only woman among the 26 police officers deployed at Smalltown Police Station. She and the county's four other policewomen did something".

Does that help? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

I just saw on your userpage that you support gender neutral language. I was just saying I agree with you. ThanksOnBeyondZebrax • TALK 14:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough. Sorry I was a bit distracted, and misread your post as a question. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:41, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Greek Letter Organizations.

Have left note on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. You may want to start a general discussion there instead. Naraht (talk) 17:33, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Naraht: thank you, but I have no interest in a general discussion about Fraternities and Sororities. I just want to get rid of pointless smallcats which serve no purpose and risk being misused as membership cats. I strongly suggest that you withdraw your unfounded claim that I am trying to disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:04, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Withdrawn, see change to talk page. I don't understand how you can say "you have no interest in a general discussion on Fraternities and Sororities" and "The purpose of this discussion is to test whether there is actually a consensus for this to be seen as an "overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". Also, it appears that you feel that risk of misuse is a guide to whether something should exist, I simply don't. For example, Misplaced Pages has decided that just because an image of specific body parts may be used for vandalism, the answer isn't get to rid of the image, it has invented the blacklist.Naraht (talk) 18:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Sigh. @Naraht: please read the nominations. I nominated because of WP:SMALLCAT and/or WP:NONDEF. Misuse is a secondary consideration, and no cat has been nominated solely because of misuse. Some have been nominated because they have no purpose other than as membership cats, which are deprecated. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:35, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Please indicate which ones in this are membership cats. Do you consider Category:Alpha Kappa Alpha founders to be one? (and wierdly enough in the original proposal, all of the founders groups show with a red dot at the end of the name in the edit window)Naraht (talk)

Reset

I believe two things that led to the category creation.

1. If a list of chapters becomes too large it should be split off from the main page about the organization
2. A page which is split off and the page that it comes from *should* have a category in common.

That's why they exist. I'm curious as to your comments on these two.Naraht (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I agree that in many cases a page which is split off and the page that it comes from *should* have a category in common. However, that does not always apply, and it does not have to be a specially-created eponymous cat. In this case the lists of members /chapters could all go in a common Category:Lists of members of honor societies/Category:Lists of chapters of honor societies, which would be much more useful for navigation than these 2-item WP:SMALLCATs. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm not denying that that rollup category in that dimension should exist, but for lack of a better term that goes in one direction, and the group specific in the other.

• So List of Lambda Mu Nu members belongs in Category:Lists of members of honor societies with List of Omicron Pi Rho members
• but also belongs in Category:Lambda Mu Nu with List of Lambda Mu Nu chapters.Naraht (talk) 22:59, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

• It would belongs in Category:Lambda Mu Nu if Category:Lambda Mu Nu existed. However, there is no need to create Category:Lambda Mu Nu simply to accommodate 2 or 3 items.
  This issue arises regularly with musicians: we don't create Category:Eamon O'Punk just to accommodate the article Eamon O'Punk, Eamon O'Punk discography and Category:Eamon O'Punk albums. We just cross-link them.
  That's the logic behind WP:SMALLCAT: below about items, cross-linking provides easier navigation overall. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:30, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Rock lighthouses of Scotland cleanup done

Tank yew. Mangoe (talk) 20:34, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Yew be well come, @Mangoe. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:39, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

A request

Hi, please don't add categories that experienced editors believe are BLP violations. Several discussions may need to be had about this, and the articles should remain out of the categories until those are completed. Many thanks, SarahSV 01:30, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi SarahSV

This experienced editor would like to remind you that both Category:Biphobia feminists and Category:Trans-exclusionary radical feminists have on them a notice which says "Please do not empty the category or remove this notice while the discussion is in progress".

Please do not prejudge the debate by de facto removing the category while the discussions are underway, because that deprives editors participating in discusions the chance to see what articles are in the category and what sources exist to support their inclusion.

Many thanks, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

But as you know, BLP trumps that. No one is saying frivolously that these are BLP violations. Calling people terfs has led to extreme online abuse and threats of physical violence. However the term originated, it has become a term of abuse. Meaning is use. SarahSV 01:50, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

SarahSV That is one perspective on the term. As I'm sure you know, the other side says that the reverse is true: they say that terfs have engaged in extreme online abuse and threats of physical violence, and offer evidence of both. Please do not simply assert one side's view as undisputed fact when there are 2 well-documented sides. As an experienced editor, please let me remind you of the importance of NPOV, which you do not appear to be showing here.

If your reason for removing articles from the categs is solely BLP, then please list at the CfDs all articles so removed., so that editors can make their own assessments. ---BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

I'm aware that a small group of people who have been called terfs have done unpleasant things, and that a small group of people who use the term have too. Equally, lots haven't. The term has become a flashpoint, which is one of the reasons it's completely inappropriate as a category. Would you support Category:Misogynists, whereby anyone called that by someone who is subsequently quoted by an RS can be added to it? (It would end up being a very large category.) SarahSV 02:22, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@SlimVirgin: that is a v bad comparison. As I am sure you know, the term misogny is consistently as "hatred of women". It is an assessment of state of mind or emotion.

OTOH, "Trans-exclusionary radical feminist" makes no judgement of state of mind or emotion; it combines an ideological label which the subjects accept with a non-abusive descriptor of a policy position which is undisputed.

So please clarify. Do you dispute that either or both of Julie Bindel and Sheila Jeffreys are a) radical feminist, b) Trans-exclusionary. Seriously? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:50, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Misogyny is prejudice (sexism) against women, and it needn't refer to any state of mind. Any situation or behaviour can be misogynist. Here is a BBC article about "misogynist marketing". SarahSV 03:05, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@SarahSV: So you prefer a news article to a dictionary as a source of definition? Time you re-read WP:RS.

OED uses a similar definition to Merriam-Webster's above. OED says: misogynist: A person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women. Again, all about state of mind, rather than advocacy of a policy position. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:13, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

PS You didn't answer: Do you dispute that either or both of Julie Bindel and Sheila Jeffreys are a) radical feminist, b) Trans-exclusionary? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:15, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

(ec) Yes, and people can engage in prejudiced behaviour without actively hating and despising. That's how most bigotry works, in fact. But look, this is pointless, so I'll take my leave. The only reason I came here was to ask you to respect BLP and not to restore the cats unless consensus develops that they're appropriate. SarahSV 03:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Interesting to see someone introducing themself as "experienced editor", and then substituting their own POV over RSs.

But we are not done yet, @SarahSV. I have asked you to respect consensus-formation by ensuring that the articles you removed from the categories are listed at the CfDs. Will you do so? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Templates containing navboxes

A tag has been placed on Category:Templates containing navboxes requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines.

Also, Category:Listplayer Templates. – Fayenatic London 14:15, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @Fayenatic london

Both cats created by me because they had been populated and appeared in Special:WantedCategories. Both now empty, so I WP:G7 deleted them both. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:25, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Thai male kickboxers has been nominated for discussion

Category:Thai male kickboxers, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Paul_012 (talk) 06:19, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Mecia Simson

This person has e-mailed me (apparently I undertook some edit(s) on her article - I am guessing probably improving the references) complaining that her Misplaced Pages article has been deleted (by User:Amortias). I do not know if that is the case. Frankly without a current article, I do not know where, if anywhere, I can take a look. She stated that others that she beat in Britain's Next Top Model (cycle 5) still have an article. From what 'research' I have done, she is presumably referring to articles on Sophie Sumner and Jade McSorley. To be brutally honest I have no real interest in the whole affair, but would like to be courteous and able to reply to her. Can you help me please ? Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:20, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Derek R Bullamore: Have checked and you improved references on Media Simpson that I subsequently deleted as an expired WP:PROD. I have e-mail enabled so feel free to point them to my talk Page page or e-mail user link. If they don't have an account and they've reached out to you personally let me know and I'll happily ping you my e-mail. Amortias (T)(C) 22:31, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I do not know why I did not check if you were an admin and write directly to you. Sorry, I am getting old ! Probably best if I send the e-mail I got from Mecia and you reply directly to her. If you would prefer not to publish your e-mail details here, then you can contact me at derekrbullamore@yahoo.co.uk. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Derek R Bullamore: - amortias-wiki@outlook.com

Amortias (T)(C) 23:13, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Derek R Bullamore

Is this under control? If you still need my help, please can you identity the article?

thanks, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:01, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

OK, found it: Mecia Simson. No sign of any coverage remotely approaching WP:GNG, so @Amortias was absolutely right to delete it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:07, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Lovely. I think that Amortias and I can deal with the query between us tomorrow. Thanks for your input and sorry to involve you - it is getting late here. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Wikitravel has been nominated for discussion

Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Wikitravel, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. – S. Rich (talk) 07:44, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Medieval years in religion

All categories of this nomination are empty now and ready for you to be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @Marcocapelle, but I don't remember which CfD day they are listed on. Link? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

The link was in the opening sentence already, but I'll happily give it again: it was this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, @Marcocapelle. I didn't spot the link. (Laptop on battery dims the screen and low contrast of visited links makes em hard to spot). I'll do it now.

BTW, there is a bit of a backlog building up again at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Old unclosed discussions. If you were able to close a few, that'd be great. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:25, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Have to say I agree with you on the Sarah Brown thing. Annoys me slightly less than the English names for pretty tennis players stuff, but it is still ridiculous. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:57, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @In ictu oculi. Sometimes, en.wp consensus can be in a really weird, reality-denying place. It took about 6 months to overcome the howls of opposition to categorising actors by gender, and I wonder how long it will take for this one to bump into reality.

I enjoyed your implicit comparison of Broon to Caesar. And I needed that cup of tea . --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2018).

Administrator changes

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• An RfC has closed with a consensus that candidates at WP:RFA must disclose whether they have ever edited for pay and that administrators may never use administrative tools as part of any paid editing activity, except when they are acting as a Wikipedian-in-Residence or when the payment is made by the Wikimedia Foundation or an affiliate of the WMF.
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Your signature

Please note your signature is broken and I had to check the edit history of my talk page to see who had left me a message. Tim! (talk) 17:49, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

@Tim!: sorry, I typed one ~ too many. Now fixed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:53, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Tim! (talk) 17:54, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Monastic houses of England

Template:Monastic houses of England has been nominated for merging with Template:Map link to lists of monastic houses in England by county. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:16, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Years in the Holy Roman Empire

Am mystified by your closing remarks on the CFM. Out of the multiple nominations, I made an error in one of then that you spotted. Good for you. But no consensus? There was 1 dissenting voice who didn't elaborate on his own rationale - a rationale that runs counter to every other such nom in the last year. Please explain. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:41, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: The first sentence of your nominator's rationale at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 29#Years_in_the_Holy_Roman_Empire was simply false. The headline of the nom was wrong, and the first cat listed was wrong.

Nobody in the discussion noted these problems, so the discussion was about a misleading proposal which did not do what you claimed it would do. As such it could not be counted as a valid consensus.

So there is no mystery; simply an error which invalidated the discussion, regardless of the arguments made by participnats. As I noted in my closure, a new nomination which actually did what was claimed might have a different outcome. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:55, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

You are are petty, petty person. You are to be pitied. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2018 (UTC)