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| :I used the word 'promotional' because the contributions in question clearly stress the achievements (in past, present and possible future) of the city, to make it look attractive - in terms of 'one of the best, if not the best'. On this discussion page that was compared with brochure information and perhaps that's a good way to describe it. Wp articles are not meant to make cities, countries or people look attractive, but to describe them neutrally. I'm not doubting the correctness of the figures mentioned, but lines like "makes it very strategic for the comerce with the rest of the country, wich attracts investors and commerce worldwide", "a very important center of universities and educative centers with national and world-wide prestige" and "Its cultural wealth has taken an important front sight in the tourist sector" in my view express "Hey everybody, this is the place to be". Apart from that, info was brought in that was already on the page (like the universities mentioned). ] 19:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | :I used the word 'promotional' because the contributions in question clearly stress the achievements (in past, present and possible future) of the city, to make it look attractive - in terms of 'one of the best, if not the best'. On this discussion page that was compared with brochure information and perhaps that's a good way to describe it. Wp articles are not meant to make cities, countries or people look attractive, but to describe them neutrally. I'm not doubting the correctness of the figures mentioned, but lines like "makes it very strategic for the comerce with the rest of the country, wich attracts investors and commerce worldwide", "a very important center of universities and educative centers with national and world-wide prestige" and "Its cultural wealth has taken an important front sight in the tourist sector" in my view express "Hey everybody, this is the place to be". Apart from that, info was brought in that was already on the page (like the universities mentioned). ] 19:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
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| The article of projects are ment to show the actual projects of the city, is a fact that that you are petending to take control of the article in your '''own point of view''' there is nothing promotional in the information that says "the localization makes it very strategic for the comerce" and either a verty important center of universities" and less either that the cultural wealth has taken an important fron sight in the tousrist sector" wich is he principal economical sector in that city. This is about information based in real facts , very neutral, and not promotional, so please i would recomend you take a litle off your '''"view express"''' and DO NOT DELETE CONTRIBUTIONS, wich is aganist the etics of the encyclopedia! | |||
| You can discuss and/or correct the contributions of the memebers with a pre-discussion arguing. But never delete, this is the last time i'm going to repeat you do not delete the contributions, or your account and your IP could be blocked for vandalism. Please i will please request you civism. | |||
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Revision as of 03:06, 2 December 2006
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It needs a map! The population figures were insanely WRONG. (2 to 3 times above the real ones) I fixed it.
6.3 million was indeed incorrect, as it is the population of the entire state of Jalisco. Be that as it may, I'm not sure about your numbers, I've found more than one estimate over 4mil. I'll hold off on making changes until the releases de 2005 census information. SalvadorRodriguez 18:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- We could use past census numbers AND stating the date they were taken (actually that should we doing anyway with all numeric data (reference + date) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 22:32, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, I just went to INEGI page and got 1 646 183 from 2000 Census. INEGI site puzzles me, they have a lot of info but couldn't find a simple page listing population of cities. so I had to register for SIMBAD system. This is the url for the search query after login: http://sc.inegi.gob.mx/simbad/servlet/Ptab2?c=x174096,17100201c82,17100201c83,17100201c84,n14039,&nt=1# but that won't work if you're not registered on the system. Can anyone get a simpler non-register only url that works and put it on the reference? -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 23:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Encyclopedia-like?
Parts of the article sound like they came from a brochure.
"Becomes a hotspot...when the team scores a "key" victory" "Where "diversity" is the keyword."
- I beleive the cultural centers chunk was taken from (maybe it was the other hand, but the brochuer style makes me think it was copied TO wikipedia from there), so I removed it per copyright concerns -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Come on, could someone please make this more like an encyclopedia article and less like a tourist guide??--Bfraga 04:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Deleting
Can anyone explain what happened to the "Transport" and "Megaproyects" topics? Please don't delete withothiut giving a valid reason first!
info
- Well, do we have an article about Hospicio Cabañas? Need the link if it exists to fix some other entry. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 22:32, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Ah ye,s and about "the second oldest title. I commented that out since it needs rewording. The most straighforward reading is confusing. There are several mexican cities older than Feb 14 1542 (maybe they weren't founded as "cities", and this is what is confusing) but definitively it's not the second oldest mexican city (for instance, Morelia was founded on 1541, Merida on Jan 6 1542) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 22:35, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
GUADALAJARA METROPOLITAN AREA POPULATION.
The info related with the entire population of the metropolitane area of Guadalajara is quite wrong. The overall number must slightly excede the 4 million, no more than than. Please, also specify Guadalajara is the second largest city in Mexico ONLY by population, owe Monterrey Metropolitane AREA is far larger.
Here is the data refered in sq km.
Guadalajara Metropolitan Area 2700 km 2
Monterrey Metropolitan Area 4050 km 2.
Ing. Eduardo Guerra
Images
as beautiful as the images of Plaza Tapatia by night are, they can't be allowed for wikipedia, due to their noncommercial/with-permission-only nature. They will be removed, I think it's the second time I remove them, please do not reupload them. -- Drini 18:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Flag
There is no such thing as a flag of Guadalajara. (Mexican municipalities do not have flags). This particular flag is a creation of the Wiki Common's user Alejandro24 and is merely a proposal (he designed it). I don't think it is encyclopedic to include this flag on the article. --Alonso 04:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Alonsito: You are everywhere, the worst thing is that you feel so envy for Guadalajara Mexico probably be cuase you come from de poor Guadalajara Espana, for a shining to your ignorance the flight of the Guadalajara City it does exist and is not a proposal model, stop following the Guadalajara Mexico article and go an write catalan. The flight was designed 437 years ago when the towers of the cathedral where built following the same colors and adding the sign that the kingdom gave t the city more than 500 years ago. Just stop following the article. Raveonpragha
NOT DELETING
Once again, you guys can not delete contribution without a valid reason and explanation in the discussion page, if this keep happening all person who delet a contribution in the article would be reported as vandalism, Nethency has deleted all my contributions arguing my text is promotional, when all is based in true and its just a clear and very good transalation based in he spanish version wich is about to become in an important article "articulo destacado" in he spanish page. Please before deleting or make contribution come to the discussion page, if not, the user will be blocked as well. Thank you Raveonpragha
- I used the word 'promotional' because the contributions in question clearly stress the achievements (in past, present and possible future) of the city, to make it look attractive - in terms of 'one of the best, if not the best'. On this discussion page that was compared with brochure information and perhaps that's a good way to describe it. Wp articles are not meant to make cities, countries or people look attractive, but to describe them neutrally. I'm not doubting the correctness of the figures mentioned, but lines like "makes it very strategic for the comerce with the rest of the country, wich attracts investors and commerce worldwide", "a very important center of universities and educative centers with national and world-wide prestige" and "Its cultural wealth has taken an important front sight in the tourist sector" in my view express "Hey everybody, this is the place to be". Apart from that, info was brought in that was already on the page (like the universities mentioned). Nethency 19:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Nethency
The article of projects are ment to show the actual projects of the city, is a fact that that you are petending to take control of the article in your own point of view there is nothing promotional in the information that says "the localization makes it very strategic for the comerce" and either a verty important center of universities" and less either that the cultural wealth has taken an important fron sight in the tousrist sector" wich is he principal economical sector in that city. This is about information based in real facts , very neutral, and not promotional, so please i would recomend you take a litle off your "view express" and DO NOT DELETE CONTRIBUTIONS, wich is aganist the etics of the encyclopedia! You can discuss and/or correct the contributions of the memebers with a pre-discussion arguing. But never delete, this is the last time i'm going to repeat you do not delete the contributions, or your account and your IP could be blocked for vandalism. Please i will please request you civism. Raveonpragha