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:If you had asked me to tolerate your afforts to hide your yccounts and harrasing edits, because you have problems with it, i guess i had made so and I had tolerated it. See e.g. my patience with your vandalising my page made by you on November 29th. But: only if you had leaved the Wikisource. But today you publshed here a very harrasing and attacking pamphlet - see ], so you are back and you have no right to vanish. Sorry for you, but it is your problem. ] 16:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC) | :If you had asked me to tolerate your afforts to hide your yccounts and harrasing edits, because you have problems with it, i guess i had made so and I had tolerated it. See e.g. my patience with your vandalising my page made by you on November 29th. But: only if you had leaved the Wikisource. But today you publshed here a very harrasing and attacking pamphlet - see ], so you are back and you have no right to vanish. Sorry for you, but it is your problem. ] 16:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
::First, there is no reason you need to continually bring up V. Z.'s former name. All his edits are reattributed to ], and the harassment policy specifically mentions not bringing up user's real names after a name change. You may certainly point out that ] now uses the account ], and you may have a case to make that V. Z./Zacheus are disruptive and harassing you. But please do it without using his real name. | |||
::Second, please translate ], or at least the opening paragraph. Who or what is it an attack on? ] 22:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Rostislav Hedvicek
That he edits his own bio with sockuppet accounts? Nothing unusual here. I'd given up dealing with such people as they can get very aggressive and it consumes way too much of time.
I saw that on Czech Wiki RH's contribution are limited to low quality micro-stubs and flamewars. The first won't make much difference here - it will be lost within the other million of stubs. Flamewars are also unlikely as number of Czechs here is small and they do not use WP as discussion forum.
My guess is that RH will get soon bored and will concentrate on Czech Wiki. Pavel Vozenilek 18:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Clapham Junction (disambiguation)
Pavel Vozenilek 20:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Off-wiki personal attacks poll
Since you have previously participated in discussions about the off-wiki NPA policy, I wanted to let you know about a quick opinion poll that is now posted on the Talk page there. Your input is appreciated!
- "I just came off a hot RfC where this policy was used as a weapon to almost block (and precipitate a collapse or a war) by aggressive majority parties to squelch an unpopular editor. I was fortunate to reason from the admins (new to all disputes, I had no prior issues with any editors) a brief stay to finish the RfC to a better resolution. I see suppression of legitimate commentary vs public attack as a very important area of analysis and resolution. Legitimate commentary on the internet is at risk, what kind of "attack" is of significance to involve Wiki; and distinguishing controversy and needed commentary on/about editors (a safety valve?) from true attack might not always be easy.--66.58.130.26 15:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)"
- Is the listing of more than one dozen of wikipedians in a "list of fascists" a legitimate commentary??? -jkb- 15:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
- For fairness I have noted, linked, and moved a potential debate to a more appropriate talk location, here. Votes summaries aren't the place for back and forth argument, if you disagree you are welcome to vote and summarize your view separately.
- This was a hag ridden situation that involved evolving Wiki policies, an unpopular individual that had pushed original policies hard, been monitored/tracked/stalked (choose pov), had an asymmetric application of policies, seriously outgunned on volume, legal argumentation, and content, who with a personal view (walk a mile in his shoes) of being badgered, had become more than disenchanted. A long festering, dirty edit and policy war was getting ready to become a serious internet war (IMHO - really) where I felt *serious* informal intervention and mediation would actually resolve the internet NPA questions and problem *in everybody's favor*. The small disputant trusted my comments where imposed views were viewed as provocations, ultimately accepted the consensus, recognized the new policies. I think the majority learned/reconsidered a few important things too. So far, peace is holding, everyone is getting more work done. It has long been recognized that "hard cases make bad law", I didn't want more imperfect laws either.--66.58.132.43 00:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion regarding Impostors
Next time you come across an impostor of yours or someone elses, please report the impostor account(s) to WP:AIV, where you'll get a quicker response than WP:ANI. 20:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Checkuser
I have just made a Checkuser request (against the vandals harassing you and other Czech users) here, feel free to comment if you have something more to add. - Mike Rosoft 09:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Stop harassing me and stalking me immediately!
I do not watch all you activities. But now it turns out it makes a huge list, probably incomplete:
- m:User:-jkb-/CsWiki (7 February 2006)
- m:Requests for CheckUser information/Archives/2006/01#Check user action across domains (24 September 2006)
- m:User talk:Snowdog#check on cs.source and cs.wiki (3 October 2006)
- Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive140#pls block an impostor (7 October 2006)
- m:Requests for CheckUser information#Several users again (8 October 2006)
- Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Nácek Ignácek (5 November 2006)
- User:-jkb-/Vandalism and impostors (19 November 2006)
If don't delete all you lies about me or you don't stop harassing me and stalking me, I will seek a protection against you. -- Zacheus 21:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- It has to be said in Zacheus's (etc.) favour that he is apparently not related to the vandal harassing you and other contributors. (At least, the checkuser request has found no evidence of it.) - Mike Rosoft 16:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Please, stop breaching my privacy immediately!
This is my last warning. If don't stop violating Right to Vanish policy: "Change references to your former username to be references to your replacement username (you can do this yourself)," I'll ask to block you. -- Zacheus 13:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'd like to recommend the two of you to settle your differences using mediation. (I have already made this recommendation on Zacheus' talk page.) - Mike Rosoft 13:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think I can help you. I don't want to be directly involved in this case any more. (If I took any more action, he would see it as more evidence of Misplaced Pages community being biased against him.) Please seek opinion of other Misplaced Pages administrators (see WP:AN/I), or start an arbitration request (WP:RFArb) - he seems to have rejected mediation. (If an arbitration case is started, I want to know about it; the Czech arbitrators likely will as well.) - Mike Rosoft 12:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have asked to block you
You did not stop revealing of my identity despite the fact I had asked you and warned you many times, I asked for your blocking in order to stop you doing that. -- Zacheus 15:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- If you had asked me to tolerate your afforts to hide your yccounts and harrasing edits, because you have problems with it, i guess i had made so and I had tolerated it. See e.g. my patience with your vandalising my page made by you on November 29th. But: only if you had leaved the Wikisource. But today you publshed here a very harrasing and attacking pamphlet - see User:Zacheus#Prohlášení, so you are back and you have no right to vanish. Sorry for you, but it is your problem. -jkb- 16:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- First, there is no reason you need to continually bring up V. Z.'s former name. All his edits are reattributed to User:V. Z., and the harassment policy specifically mentions not bringing up user's real names after a name change. You may certainly point out that User:V. Z. now uses the account User:Zacheus, and you may have a case to make that V. Z./Zacheus are disruptive and harassing you. But please do it without using his real name.
- Second, please translate User:Zacheus#Prohlášení, or at least the opening paragraph. Who or what is it an attack on? Thatcher131 22:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)